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[2008-09-15 21:58:16 +0000 UTC]
"Victor A. Yorke"
(United Kingdom)
# Statistics
Favourites: 145; Deviations: 169; Watchers: 54
Watching: 50; Pageviews: 20703; Comments Made: 15651; Friends: 50
# Interests
Favorite bands / musical artists: Guns 'N Roses, Radiohead, White Stripes, Half Man Half BiscuitFavorite writers: D Abnett, J R R Tolkien, S Mitchell, C S Lewis, All my watchers!
Tools of the Trade: Texet 2MB USB disk, keyboard
# About me
A grumpy, more-or-less employable Writerhermit of a Brit with bad hair.Expect military-flavoured science fiction, attempted deconstructions of high fantasy settings, fanfic for things too obscure to merit fanfic, and the occasional play around in Sketchup. Please leave your standards at the door.
Current Residence: The Toon
# Comments
Comments: 1062
Happy birthday, Tom. I hope all is well and you had a lovely Christmas holiday.
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Thank you very much!
Christmas was great, I ate myself half to death and then dozed in front of my game library...
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hello! I had a game open sorry, forgot i had the internet still open.
in fact, i was playing hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki/… , besieging hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki/… with the hyruletotalwar.wikia.com/wiki/… but then it crashed...
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oh, I was confused on why you where on all day
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hey, orr, i'm reading a book right now...setting is England. what in Sam Hill is a "cheeky biscuit"??!! I didn't know biscuits had personalities!! I know that we call your biscuits "cookies" and your "pudding" "cake", but I've never heard of a cookie called "cheeky".
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uh, probably just means 'you fool!' the 'biscuit' part is used as a term of endearment to soften the outburst.
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no...it specifically said she picked up and ate a "cheeky biscuit". if you've never heard of it before, then its probably misprint, but I wanted to check with you first.
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Okay... revised possibilities.
1. it's a typo and it should be a cheesy biscuit. Which are pretty delicious under the correct circumstances.
2. it's a biscuit eaten under cheeky circumstances. like, something out of the cupboard and gulped on the hoof.
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ok...that could be it. 
man, that really had me going. usually I can figure stuff out easily- but this one sent me for a loop.
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aha, okay.
attack of the cheeky biscuits!
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oh and I told my bro about joining Newcastle. he laughed and said "Wow! I've been recruited!" my dad (his trainer/personal coach) got a kick out of it too~ Especially when you mentioned the punching of the house.*^^*
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it's an excellent team for home-team support... you can find 65-year old women wearing a Newcastle strip on a weekday while having a walk through the park with their grandchildren. And yes, it did happen - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-… I feel kind of sorry for the guy now, even if he did assault a police horse... (heey, turns out police riot horses wear helmets and kneepads~!)
Thanks for telling me about their response! I'm looking at the NUFC website, and it looks like getting in isn't easy. For one thing, they only really scout for local talent...
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yeah. figures. but hey, we might actually end up there in a few years....>.> if obaka and the like get their wish and reform America, then we're leaving. because the only thing that worse than less freedom, is corrupted freedom.
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...Then again, if things get any more ridiculous over here, I'm going to try to leave for Canada. There's corruption, and then there's idiot selfishness, and Britain is suffering under the latter right now. So, you know, I'll wave to you from across the airport~!
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well, to tell you the Canada is no better....they've been sneaking across our borders for a while....>.>
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and now it's time to return the favour! Really, I'd have thought that Canada and America are more or less equals in lifestyle and (generally speaking) economic security. Doesn't America and Canada have an almost completely open border, anyway?
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almost, we're on better terms than the Mexican border, that's for sure. but we think Canada is like the great in between place. they're too much like England for us to like too much and apparently they're too much like us for England to care. We're kinda upset with them right now though cause they allowed a child rapist to enter our country and the wont let us send him back.>.>
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFcIH2… (I can't go back....its so cold~)
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So Hetalia was right after all.. Canada does suffer from an exaggerated Middle Child Syndrome, from everyone... (on the other hand, the British refer to courteous, polite Americans as Canadian, and boorish Canadians as American)
That's the one incident, though. (and if i was Canadian, I'd be happy to have the pedo out of the country regardless of ramifications...) It seems an unlikely source of mass immigration into the USA, I meant. Except as a vector for other nations, I suppose...
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well, yeah, just the one. but its the fact that he got two children before we even knew he was here (you mentioned we care for the underdog, well that also fits in line with caring for the "single person".) they didn't tell us to beware, and now that we caught him, they wont take him back even though they like to brag that their system is better than ours. I know a few awesome Canadians....but I know more who I would love to strangle before I send back.>.> I think they suffer from "little man syndrome" or something of the like. even though they are a large country and i'm sure formidable if the put their minds to it, they choose to be weak and the ones that come to America are such snobs. they really do think they're better than America because they stayed with England. (I laughed when I found that out). and they have a lot of in-fighting because the French and English like to think they're better than the other. Every time I meet someone from Canada they always say their city is better or their "side" is better and all I can think of is "you both are so stuck up, please go back or learn to shut up and get that your nose out of the air before you drown."
Which I think is funny cause the rest of the world looks at us the way we look at Canada....now that I think about it....
and come on, that vid was funny~ admit it! "By then i'm running on adrenalin..."
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yeah, that about covers it... And I didn't know about that opinion of Canadians or about the Anglo-French rivalries within their citizens (subjects?), thanks for sharing that info~! And of course, Canada is very sparsely populated except along the southern border.
Countries that stayed with England until consensual independence include Australia, Canada and India (special case). Countries that rebelled include America and South Africa. What happens if we analyse those national stereotypes in that setting?
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ohh, that's a fun proposal~ ...but, I thought India did rebel...somewhat. are we talking rebelled and succeeded or just rebelled?
I've really got to finish my hetalia fanfic cause I cover America pretty well (its outlined and all, I just have to write it....). but yeah, Canada we already talked about. hetalia kinda makes Canada seem a little too laid back. Canada should have a bit of an attitude.
Austraila should be the one shoulder shrug "whatever" man. since it was basically a prison colony, he's a special case unto himself....
South Africa I can't say until I know more about it. I know I saw a movie about the rebellion (I think it was a rugby movie...) so really I know next to nothing about it.
and India. Pissssshhhhhuuuuu...he's the kinda guy that tries and tries and tries and tries, but just can't catch a brake, and that really ticks him off so he's always upset and angry, but then he's calm because that's the religion he has. so in a word.....i'd say he's bipolar.
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I'm taking 'rebelled' to mean 'armed, violent and nominally organised resistance'. India, since it was granted independence by Parliament instead of rejecting the British government altogether, goes into the same category as Canada. They wanted to go, but the most successful protests were peaceful, instead of terrorism or mass uprising.
Originally a prison colony, however they were pretty loyal and organised for convicts. When the colony in New South Wales revolted against Captain Bligh (ever heard of the mutiny on the HMS bounty? yes, that Bligh), the provisional government sent him safe to England along with a message respectfully requesting another governor, preferably one who wasn't such a horrific t*** 
Wikipedia lists eleven wars on S.A. soil between 1879 and 1915. I think they're going to go into the 'rebelled' box, yeah~?
India, well, if the ACW had Ghandi and the Indian protests had Washington, things would have gone a lot differently
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really. you would never know after I watched the 3-4 hour movie Ghandi. i'd say some stuff was pretty violent. but then, yeah, the most effective was the peaceful stuff.
So, Aus would be the "whatever" guy with the hidden "I'm gonna kick ya'llz fat ugly butt if you mess with me the wrong way" kinda attitude.
yup yup. I think he'd be the kinda guy that that's calm until you tick him off, and then he holds a grudge and doesn't let go until his enemy is suitably "done for".
All hail G. Washington~<3 the first and only good pres. and an awesome person to boot!
but I digress.....>.>
but yeah, that swap would have been kinda funny actually. Washington didn't really want to fight. he was chosen as General because he was the best, but he urged the congress to find other ways to end it. So in a Ghandi v Washington scenario it would be very interesting.
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additional, completely unrelated fact: a terrorist attack in Glasgow back in 2007 was foiled after an off-duty airport baggage handler kicked one of the bombers (who was on fire at the time) between the legs...
I'd have said Roosevelt was pretty good too, given his success in combating the Great Depression (even hitler stole his ideas). But then again he did bloat the US government quite a bit with them agencies (so. many. acronyms!), and I'm sure we've discussed him before.
New (or rather, slightly modified old) question then: Who would make the best/worst stand-in for Washington, Eisenhower or Ghandi?
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haha, that's funny! give that worker a cookie!XD
...I am giving you a look that says "did you not hear my spill on the New Deal? I can't believe you just said that!" America was already coming out of the depression. the new deal just made it last longer. Hoover didn't do that Roosevelt did because he didn't want the citizens reliant on the govt. He made jobs and boosted the economy. to get out of a depression it takes time and effort. America would have made it without the New Deal. all the new deal did was make Americans a bunch of babies and complicate the system more.>.>
*reads the rest of paragraph*....oh...ok...sorry. (I'll read the whole thing before commenting again.....)
I know Eisenhower was born in Kansas....but I don't know much about his presidency. He didn't do much. But knowing the other extreme, i'd say Ghandi would be the worst. America needed a fighter. Peace didn't work, we tried that, and we needed someone to get the job done and done right. even if it wasn't Washington, i'm sure America would've been free anyway. It had to happen no matter what.
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Cookie? He recieved a medal from the Queen and over 1,000 crowdsourced pints of beer, if wiki is to believed (which, given it's Glasgow, is far more common than any biscuit 
If my high-school history education is to believed, the US economy got worse under Hoover and better under Roosevelt. How much of that was because of Hoover's policies creating belated success and how much was Roosevelt's head-on aggressive approach to unemployment (do work, no matter how stupid or obviously made-up it is, and get paid, no matter how little) I wouldn't be able to say. Hoover was portrayed in my education as a man who was desperate not to rock the boat no matter how fast it happened to be sinking...
Yeah, I should do that too
Eisenhower, given that he had to share a military with the psychopath that was George S Patton, Wasn't the sort of man given to pacifism. He was sad to miss out on WW1, and in the first year of presidency threatened China with nukes and deposed the Iranian prime minister while building up the cold war and American nuke reserves. That said, he bent his orders while occupying Germany to make sure civilians got more food, criticised the military-industrial complex, hated McCarthy and encouraged peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Not to mention desegregation; I like the guy now~!
Don't underestimate Ghandi's capabilities. Mass peaceful protests are louder than you'd think, and he was loved by the British populace too...
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I'd still like a cookie...>.>
Roosevelt caused the depression to go on longer, no doubt about that. The new deal would probably work for you guys, but it took a long time for the US to get used to it, and its as socialist as it can be without breaking the constitution. now obaka is trying to really break it, and they're sinking, bad. The titanic sunk slower and with more grace than obaka and his cohorts now. Hoover was a man who believed that the people could fix it themselves. they just needed a little nudge, which is why he caused the Hoover Dam to be built and cause roads to be constructed and buildings too. he put money back into the economy- back into the hands of the people- and let the cycle of money do its thing.
hahaha, don't you diss Patton too much. sure he wasn't a lovable fellow, but he was what the military needed at the time. there's a famous speech that he gave; yeah, sure, its a little over the top, but its what the men needed to hear at that time. we were in a world war, they didn't want to fight, but they needed the courage to do so and Patton was a good speaker because he didn't mince his words, he told it like it was, and he expected no less from himself what he expected of his men. What he did with china was probably because he was warning them against Russia...no one liked Russia, and no one liked McCarthy.
I don't underestimate him, i'm just saying that he wouldn't have worked. No one had ever successfully broken off from their mother country before. I don't think the English govt would've been open to that kind of protest at that time in history. I think that a fight had to happen in order to open that idea up; to show the pros and cons of not listening to the people/petitions. ......also, Americans are far too hot headed......>.>
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So do I~
To quote Hoover, in 1930, having been told that the crash was in fact getting worse and that the support of charities, state government and local communities were expended...
“This nation did not grow great from feeding upon the malignant pessimist or calamity mongers or weeping men, and prosperity for all our people will not be restored by the voluble wailings of word-sobbers nor by any legislative legerdemain proposed by theorists.” (source - hnn.us/article/89702 )
By the end of 1930, as Hoover was in power, total factory pay packages went down by 35%, unemployment passed 5 million, and 25,000 businesses failed (source same as above). Unemployment rose from 3.2% in 1929 to 24.9% in 1933, then dropped to 14.3% in 1937 (source - www.shmoop.com/great-depressio… ). In that timeframe fertility rates dropped by 13 per 100,000 women too (source is same 'shmoop' site). Whatever Hoover was doing (wiki lists an impressive array of public works projects and substantial investment in cotton/textile industries, which is a very good idea I would have thought), he didn't need the 13% of government expenditure that disappeared between 1930 and 1933 to fund it with (shmoop again). To summarise, things did get worse under Hoover, peaking on the final year of his administration, and I had no idea the word 'legerdemain' even existed...
Patton was (to my knowledge) the only general in the second world war who held a patent for a mêlée weapon, and he's the one to whom the 'make the other b*****d die for his [country]' quote is traced... Looked up some quotes of some of the biggest generals of the war regardless, to compare, let me know your analysis plz 
And that list of details was about Eisenhower, not Patton, sorry about the confusing wording!
"Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle." -G.S. Patton (him again
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STOP! this will solve all our problems! ( go to about 5:00 )
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPX0n…
...ok, maybe not, govt is doomed to be corrupt. but it was a thought....
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I think it needs work.
In the mean time, as soon as the electronic politician breaks Beaker will stand in for that party's leader until a replacement arrives. With a little luck he'll be the only national leader on the planet inside 5 years, which will not only remove most of the barriers to world peace (the people) but will also make UN meetings slightly hilarious
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or less hilarious. nothing is more funny than watching a guy stumble over his "meanings".
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sorry, didn't catch your meaning there...
although, I immediately thought you meant something like this www.youtube.com/watch?v=moDPmN… when you said that~
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you said it'd be hilarious if they were r9b9ts, I say it'd be more hilarious to keep regular humans because they are so wonderfully imperfect that watching them squirm is almost worth putting them in office.
that made my day~ and I totally understand. there are days where I really just can't speak.>.>
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What I'd was that all politicians should be replaced by Beaker. Robotic politicians would only work if the basic personalities were the turrets from Portal...
Yen, squeaking can brie diffident at rhymes~
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ah, Beaker, totally agree.
Yesh, yesh if dan.
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Yo dude! Finished Alcohol part 2, go read it!
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As the frog said to the librarian: read it!
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