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revolt10-17 ♂️ [1082314] [2004-09-05 10:44:49 +0000 UTC] "ptit Louis Aragon" (France)

# Statistics

Favourites: 10; Deviations: 5; Watchers: 15

Watching: 58; Pageviews: 7958; Comments Made: 439; Friends: 58

# Interests

Favorite bands / musical artists: Motion, Youssou N' Dour, Devin Townsend, Vangelis
Favorite writers: Louis Aragon, Apollinaire, Lorca, Neruda, Valère Novarina, Eluard ...
Other Interests: Le collier de la vie : l'amour, ma femme, l'émotion !

# About me

Current Residence: Au coeur du fruit, couleur d'insurrection : une Cerise
MP3 player of choice: Media Player XP
Shell of choice: Style XP
Wallpaper of choice: On Returning
Skin of choice: Flat Liner rc2
Personal Quote: L'Amour se fait parce qu'il se construit...

# Comments

Comments: 105

z0rgy [2007-08-28 12:35:58 +0000 UTC]

dommage que tu sois plus sur DA
t'es le 1er coco français que je rencontre, camarade

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revolt10-17 In reply to z0rgy [2009-05-28 09:25:42 +0000 UTC]

de te rencontrer... Désolé...

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revolt10-17 In reply to z0rgy [2009-05-28 09:25:16 +0000 UTC]

Bonjour Camarade,

C'est un plaisir de te rencontrer. J'ai décidé qu'il était temps de ranimer mon espoir dans ces temps perturbés, où la difficulté peut très vite faire place au changement. Aujourd'hui plus que jamais, la remise en cause trouve son échos dans de nombreux rassemblements aussi bien en vrai que sur le net.

Profitons-en ! Je tiens beaucoup à resserrer des liens avec tous mes camarades.

Je suis donc très heureux de rencontrer.

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fbarok [2007-01-08 11:26:56 +0000 UTC]

thanks for the favorite comrad!

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fbarok In reply to fbarok [2007-01-08 11:27:12 +0000 UTC]

*I mean watch!

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abstract-deviant [2006-02-03 14:55:58 +0000 UTC]

and thanx alot 4 the watch!

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abstract-deviant [2006-01-31 23:04:41 +0000 UTC]

thanx 4 visiting!

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BloodAddict [2005-12-16 20:56:54 +0000 UTC]

Merry Christmas hon Have some fun and be happy And don't forget to visit my user-page and comment on my art-works regularly


Take care,
sincerely Yours =BloodAddict

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revolt10-17 In reply to BloodAddict [2006-01-11 10:14:36 +0000 UTC]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, sweet heart !
I wish you all the happyness creativeness I can !

I go and check all your new works ! 't has been a long time, I must pay you some visit !

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Palestinian-Pride [2005-10-29 14:42:05 +0000 UTC]

Awesome work untill now
cant wait to see more, stay strong comrade !

Salam

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revolt10-17 In reply to Palestinian-Pride [2005-11-16 18:45:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you my friend !

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Cetanu12 [2005-10-19 03:13:20 +0000 UTC]

Bien que je ne sois pas d'accord avec le communisme entièrement, je vous identifie en tant que grande personne parce que vous êtes disposé à discuter des issues sans colère et haine. Pas beaucoup de gens peuvent faire ceci

My french might be patchy, so here is an english version:

Although I do not agree with Communism entirely, I recognize you as a great person because you are willing to discuss issues without anger and hate.
Not many people can do this

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BloodAddict [2005-06-02 20:02:16 +0000 UTC]

Hello there Thank You for adding my work Inner Childhood to Your fav-list I really appreciate it

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revolt10-17 [2005-05-30 10:47:19 +0000 UTC]

To =PatGoltz :

Atfer all, I found time today ! Here it is.

Let me see if I can word it better. I'll ask several questions. Hope this helps.

>>Thank you but I’ve already understood that you would ask me something like that. I was hoping that you would ask for something lighter. Anyway, doesn’t matter !

Are you a communist because you believe in the tenets of communism, or for some other reason?

>> Well I don’t really like the term « tenets », because it would be insinuating that a Communist ideal includes inavoidably a totalitarian model. Now I’m not convinced of that at all, I think it is much more a moral (and political) way of life ; it is more than just political theory. Marx proposed the labours to hold a « dictatorship » for a moment. But we’re talking about a ‘’dictatorship’’ of millions of people, it is obvious that we can’t talk about a true dictatorship as we saw with Staline, Mao (even if it is a sort of an execption, but it would be a bit long to explain it here ; if you want me to precise this, tell me), Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Tito, Pinochet, etc...
What I like in the communist proposition is that the goal is an Anarchist dream : a society of responsible people without a Government ruling it. People can be better they would ever imagine. And I deeply believe that this can be done.

Why does the communist political outlook appeal to you?
What parts of it appeal, and why?

>>Because when I read this proposition of society, I believe this can be done. People don’t believe in it because they are threaten because of a wrong subjective interpretation by opponents ruling occidental countries. Let me develop a bit more : Capitalists extol property ; in our society, property means power over other people, when you own something unique that you don’t want to share. People who want to have power will try to own what you don’t have to have more power than you or will try to steal you this. We call this « competition ». Capitalism needs competition to work and Communism don’t want competition (neither do I. I hate it). Communism doesn’t want things to be rare, it wants them to be abundant, plentiful, more than people would need to be sure that everyone can have it and live, instead of just survive.
The problem is that if we place nowadays people in this kind of system, as we saw it in China with the « Popular Communes » in the 60s where there was abundance of food, people would abuse of everything.
This is why I previewsly talked about responsible citizens and the Anarchist model, because Anarchist model also needs responsible people.
Be careful. I’m not talking about cold people, with no personality. On the contrary, I’m talking about sensitive people capable to understand the true meaning of community, reciprocity, cooperation. Of course, it means less individuality, but does individuality not went a bit too far today ? Especially in a selfish way ?
Even here, at deviantArt, if we are here it is because we know what individuality and community mean. (Well maybe some people don’t think about this here that much because they just come for fun. No problem with that at all.)
People are also threathened by the « no property » issue which has also been biased. Communism never talked about « nobody will ever have something for himself again ». We talk about money : that is the big affair ! Marx proposed to gather all the money, as the money is the key of power. So, as money is the capitalists power, we gather money and destroy it with all the money system with it (just in a country or more).
Now Marx proposed to destroy the money and then to establish a society of total abundance. We can discuss this part to know if it is better or easier to establish this system before or after we destroy the money, there are pros and cons in the two options.
Now some people told me about an excert of Marx’s texts, saying that women and sex in general would have to be shared. I don’t remember of any of this kind of excerts, but anyway if that’s true, this is obviously something with which I totally disagree !


Well. I think this all. If I forgot something, don’t hesitate to come back and ask me.
Since few times, I’m begining to look for some works by Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri. They are proposing a new Marxism-based theory of modern society. There two works about this are « Empire » and « Multitude ».
I just bought Multitudes, but I have no time to read it now.
Just take a look at it, it is very interesting.
See ya.

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Ivonin [2005-04-03 10:19:03 +0000 UTC]

Just found you out Comrade! Well done for sticking by your beliefs and not hiding away and rejecting the communist dogma!

Well done, Ivonin

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r3s3nt [2005-03-28 18:08:58 +0000 UTC]

Assalamu Alalikum, comrade.

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revolt10-17 In reply to r3s3nt [2005-03-31 11:10:26 +0000 UTC]

Welcome, comrade ! Thank you for visiting me !
I'll do the same ! So see you soon !

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liqachu [2005-03-16 17:13:14 +0000 UTC]

thanks

you can, tis avaiable for print! hehe
see ur making good use of my friend tabs wallpaper

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Valkyrie1981 [2005-02-18 01:18:58 +0000 UTC]

Is It Okay To Be A Communist?

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Who is a communist? -- Someone who read and believed Marx and Lenin.

Who is an anticommunist? -- The one who read and understood them.

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We often hear that "the two Cold War superpowers were very similar", "when a person says that he is a `communist' he is just declaring his opposition to the injustices of the social system", "Stalin perverted the communist teaching, one cannot judge the beautiful communist idea by the abomination Stalin created" etc.

Well, I can answer to that, in short, with one of the handful of jokes that conveniently sum up my political views:
An angel from the Lord appeared before a Fascist, a Communist and a Jew (it is beyond the point how these three happened to be at the same place; suppose they were on a bus and asked them:

-- Each of you is granted one wish; what do you wish for?

The Fascist asked for the Communists to be eliminated for ever and ever. The Communist asked for the Fascists to disappear from the Universe. Both of them vanish.

The Jew looks puzzled. He asks the Angel whether the wishes of the first two fellows were granted in their entirety. The Angel confirms. Then, after a heavy deliberation, the Jew says:

-- In that case, all I can ask for is a cup of coffee.

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The longer answer is: the last statement in the first paragraph is true. It is true, that Lenin/Trotsky's communism of 1917-1921, as well as the state Stalin built in the thirties were a perversion of the ideas of Marx and Engels. The horrible nightmare that Stalin had implemented was mild compared to the Lenin/Trotsky's version, which, in turn, was somewhat milder than what Marx/Engels proposed. Stalinism can be rightfully called Communism with a humane face, it was very gentle compared to what Marx/Engels wanted.

The upshot is that the Communist ideology requires a total surrender of personal freedom and privacy to the will of the state/class/party/whatever. Please read the previous sentence again. This is NOT an exaggeration. This is what they (Marx/Engels/...) wanted and this is what is totally and completely unacceptable in their ideology.

Let us read the famed (or is it "infamous"?) Manifesto of the Communist Party:
Family: Marx/Engels are quite vague on the issue, though they clearly imply abolition of the family and introduction of community of women.
Implementation: Lenin's words that to have sex should be as easy as to drink a glass of water, Alexandra Kollontay's (she was a People's Comissar, i.e., a member of the national government) saying that a (female) member of the Communist party has no right to deny (sex) to a (male) member of the Communist party. In the twenties there were public organized (voluntary? I don't know, probably yes) deflorations of young girls by the Red Army soldiers. Stalin returned to the women certain rights, e.g., to say "no" (well, when she was talking to her social peer, at least). Nevertheless, the family was continuously assaulted: the children were encouraged to report their parents to the VChK-KGB, individual's private family matters were discussed on Party meetings etc etc.
Children/Education:
But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.
And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, etc.? The Communists have not intended the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.
The bourgeois claptrap about the family and education, about the hallowed correlation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labor.
What they propose is
free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
Implementation: Well, here they (Lenin/Stalin/Brezhnev) were as good as their (Marx/Engels) word. Public education was mandatory, educating children at home was a felony, organized religious education was outlawed. I would conjecture that Marx/Engels would take all children from mothers (remember, there are no families, promiscuity is enforced, so, in the absence of genetic testing, there cannot be a concept of a "father") for public upbringing (this is not purposeful cruelty, just a question of pure efficiency in both input - resources spent on children and output - their indoctrination). You may dispute the validity of my conjecture, but then you will have to tell me how they intended to feed all these single mothers. Well, Lenin/Stalin/Brezhnev did not do that. Almost. When a family member was arrested (i.e., "drafted into the industrial army of GULAG", see below, or just murdered by the "People's Court" - note that the institution was named identically in Nazi Germany and Soviet Union), the spouse was arrested too (until the fifties; the crime was "ChSIR" - "member of the family of the traitor of the motherland"), while the children were sent to orphanages.
Note: public education might not be necessarily evil and mandatory education might even look like a good idea for the modern technological society, but mandatory AND public means brainwashing, and thus is clearly the opposite of freedom. You might find Separation of School and State a more appropriate policy.
Labor: Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Implementation: GULAG was one huge labor army, of course, and people were drafted there - you can hardly call the procedure "legal" - by millions. But GULAG probably never accounted for more than 10-20% of the GDP (although most of the military research was done there - people like Tupolev and Korolev were imprisoned and had their "KB" - Design Bureaus - in the prison camps - the celebrated "Sharagas"). This GDP estimate is based on the estimates of the GULAG's population together with the fact the productivity of slave labor is usually smaller than that of the "free" agents outside of the prison camps. On the other hand, the peasants did not have passports until the 1970-ies, and without the passport they could not move in a city, so they were tied to their "kolhoz". During certain periods, city workers could not change jobs either. Being 5 minutes late was a felony.
Patriotism: proletarians have no motherland
Implementation: a VChK/GPU/NKVD spy/subversion network called "Comintern" and "brotherly help" to foreign Communist parties (like bank-rolling the American, British and all other communist parties which could not support themselves), etc etc. By the way, a legitimate question arises - who bank-rolled Lenin before 1917? The Imperial Germany did: with Lenin's official program that "the military defeat of our own national government will lead to a revolution" his success was in the best interests of Germany. Their investment in Lenin proved quite wise: the communists surrendered Russia in February 1918, 4 months after grabbing the power, and paid enormous reparations until Germany was defeated by the Western Allies (US and Entente Cordiale) in November 1918. What about before 1914? They robbed banks. It was called "Expropriation of expropriators" and was organized by Stalin et al.

Conclusion
The word communist is totally discredited. People who call themselves communists are usually misguided. If they read the sources and know the history, and did not turn away from the Communist ideas in disgust, they are political gangsters or opportunists who liked living on the dole from the CPSU (Communist Party of the Soviet Union) - before the USSR collapsed. But this is rare. Usually these self-proclaimed communists are just socialists, or social-democrats, who believe that these words - socialist, social-democrat - are discredited (what can be more discredited than communist?!) or misleading (what can be more confusing than calling someone a communist?!)
So, do not call yourself a communist. It is a bad word, invented by bad people to identify themselves. Even if you add all the communists persecuted, tortured and murdered, all over the world, including by the Nazis, you will never even approach a quarter of the number of innocent victims of communists. Remember, that includes (but not limited to) Collectivization in Russia, Cultural Revolution in China and Cambodian Killing Fields. The balance is against them. They are not victims but perpetrators.
The Two Superpowers
Comparing the witch hunt against the communists in the USA with GULAG is so ridiculous and insulting toward the victims of the communists, that the issue should not even have been raised. But it was, and is, repeated by various political speakers, that "there was no difference between McCarthy and Beria", "the human rights situation in the US and the SU were quite similar in the 60ies, 70ies and 80ies" etc. Suffice it to say that nobody was sent to jail just for being a communist in the USA. People who were sent to prison camps in the USSR in the 50ies, 60ies, 70ies and 80ies, for "anti-soviet propaganda" (article 70 of the criminal code) and "slandering of the Soviet System" (article 190-1 of the criminal code) number tens of thousands. Losing a job can be very unpleasant, but compare it with what the communists would have done to the rest of us (and what they actually did in every single country where they took power), and you would agree that it was quite mild.
No, I do not condone a witch hunt. I just want to put things into a proper perspective. Personal Freedom and the Free Speech are sacred, and it is good that the communist (and fascist, for that matter, even though my gripes with latter are even bigger than with the former) literature is freely available on the Internet.
When Reagan called the Soviet Union the evil empire, he was wrong. The Soviet propagandists corrected him, when they translated his words into Russian as The Empire of Evil (Имп& #1077;рия Зл& #1072. The Soviet Union was a monster, bent on the world domination, with the ultimate goal of total elimination of individual freedom. Yes, this includes you, even if you think that since you call yourself a communist, you would have ended up at the top.
Read Orwell's "1984". He summed things up pretty clearly and without exaggerations. When you read it here in the US, you probably think "how ridiculous! this is impossible! this just cannot happen, ever!" When I read the book in the mid-eighties, I saw everything I was reading about right in front of me in the Moscow streets. In my not-so-humble opinion, this is the conclusive proof that the Cold War was not between "moral equals", but between Good (The Free World) and Evil (The Totalitarian Abyss of Communism).

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Neitros In reply to Valkyrie1981 [2006-01-19 19:58:41 +0000 UTC]

"The Soviet propagandists " you forgt that the soviet union was a dictatarship not a comunist policy, the american propaganda by McCarthy was so much deepper that the americans still think its wrong but they dont know what it means...comu is driven from the word comunnity and the goal is to build a comunity that provides for themselfs in normal words equality for all but comunism was never put in to practise and only one man tried...Lennin but he fail he discoverd that in nature any animal even the Human cannot preform the comunist theory beacause in human nature the people dont like for them to be equal ill give you an example: you produce 100 tons of corn and the other one produces 50tons the goal is to divied that into two so one gets 75 tons and you also get 75tons and by nature you dont want that because you made 100 you should recive 100 but no you recived 75 and you feel angry and revolted.
So the comunist theory is pretty god its perfect but the humans are not...now a days we have some people whit a home and others living under a bridge so i think i preffer the socialist theory.
but you wanna know the funny part? The americans want to exint the idea of comunism because its exatcly the revers of capitalim in other words. Bad for economy.
i aint saying that all capitalism is bad because in Luxemburg they are rich and they are capitalism but they preform a inteligent capitalism not the put every money in ur pocket and run away like U.S.A
I enjoyed talking to you about this. (dont think that im a 50 year old and lonely guy im a 13 year old buy who read "Das Capital and exmined the comunist history.cheers)

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Neitros In reply to Neitros [2006-01-19 20:00:15 +0000 UTC]

i was talking about to Valkyrie's text

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revolt10-17 In reply to Neitros [2006-01-25 14:03:25 +0000 UTC]

Okay. I was not really understanding.
No problem.

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revolt10-17 In reply to Valkyrie1981 [2005-03-05 12:24:58 +0000 UTC]

Was it not too hard to plagiarize someone else ?...
If you weren't, I'm sorry but you would have to quote your sources,
otherwise I conclude that you're not capable to build such a demonstration, that is particularly boring and blindly interpretated, regardless of personal sensible interpretation from people who pretend to be communist, and that is overwhelming people's knowledge about Communism to explain and justify their hatred toward communists.

However, I should say that you blew out the record of the most boring comment I've ever read.
Bravo...

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Valkyrie1981 In reply to revolt10-17 [2005-03-05 19:07:37 +0000 UTC]

We will never change the way we think... However I have the statifaction that most of the world agrees with me....

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revolt10-17 In reply to Valkyrie1981 [2005-03-06 01:01:08 +0000 UTC]

I do have the satisfaction to try to convince the world to change.
Everybody has his own little pleasure.
Good night.

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Valkyrie1981 In reply to revolt10-17 [2005-03-06 04:07:17 +0000 UTC]

Good night

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revolt10-18 [2005-02-08 20:37:18 +0000 UTC]

Hey, sack of shit, I wasn't banned because dA are commies, I was banned because I have a million multiple accounts for ban-evasion for OTHER reasons.

So, no, I won't be THINKING about it, you dumb fuck.

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MariusDeFrantil [2005-02-04 05:59:24 +0000 UTC]

so u dont intent to do any art at all?

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rioo [2005-02-03 08:25:16 +0000 UTC]

thx!

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Arrrg-Pirates [2005-01-26 21:40:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the watch, sorry this is so late, but my DA message history got deleted, and i only just noticed your post...
:+watch:
(sorry if this is a double post)

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revolt10-17 In reply to Arrrg-Pirates [2005-01-30 17:10:12 +0000 UTC]

No problem, man !
A reply is always welcomed !
And a devwatch too ! Thanks !

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Arrrg-Pirates [2005-01-26 21:38:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the watch, sorry this is so late, but my DA message history got deleted, and i only just noticed your post...
:+watch:

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GameDreamer [2005-01-21 23:43:57 +0000 UTC]

La'Salaam, Comrade! Welcome to DA.

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Turkish-Romeo-BoY [2005-01-14 19:56:25 +0000 UTC]

ton avatar est tres jolie :loved:

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revolt10-17 In reply to Turkish-Romeo-BoY [2005-01-14 22:01:16 +0000 UTC]

Merci ! Do you speak french ?
It is *RedOut who have made my avvy ! I love it too !

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Turkish-Romeo-BoY In reply to revolt10-17 [2005-01-15 18:21:51 +0000 UTC]

oui je parle français
it really looks great

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revolt10-17 In reply to Turkish-Romeo-BoY [2005-01-16 00:07:58 +0000 UTC]

Bah merci encore ! L'idée était de moi, mais j'avais besoin des talents de quelqu'un d'autre pour réussir à la concrétiser. Parce que j'arrive pas encore à maitriser comme certains.

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Turkish-Romeo-BoY In reply to revolt10-17 [2005-01-16 20:42:31 +0000 UTC]

oui bonne idée
il a vraiment de talent
il l'a fait excellent

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OIguys [2005-01-06 16:09:45 +0000 UTC]

salut!

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blademm [2004-12-25 14:25:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for

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Verethragna [2004-12-18 12:27:46 +0000 UTC]

thnks for watch kamrat...

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jakejoshp [2004-12-11 14:20:00 +0000 UTC]

RANDOM HI !

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babysista [2004-12-10 10:46:09 +0000 UTC]

hello thanks and etc

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new-architect [2004-12-09 02:48:40 +0000 UTC]

Je parle une petite peu de Francais.

hehehe that's probably the most botch sentence ever, and i can feel you laughing at me. hehe. i haven't taken french for like four years. and even then they didn't teach it well. but i'm gonna pick it up again in university next year.

hey, i'm in 'communism' too!

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revolt10-17 In reply to new-architect [2004-12-09 10:57:35 +0000 UTC]

You're right I'm laughing, not at you but with you !
Nice to meet you comrade !

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BloodAddict [2004-12-06 15:29:18 +0000 UTC]

Hello there Thank You for adding me to Your friends-list Hope we'll become real friends

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BloodAddict [2004-12-06 09:47:21 +0000 UTC]

Hey, nice to find some people that aren;t here because of the popularity! You're here to find friends and opponents... very interesting I'm a member of communism club

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revolt10-17 In reply to BloodAddict [2004-12-06 16:33:08 +0000 UTC]

Hehe ! I know it ! I saw it in your journal !
I'll keep in touch ! And keep an eye !...

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blademm [2004-12-05 16:43:27 +0000 UTC]

merci de me suivre.

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bouillion-cube [2004-12-05 14:39:28 +0000 UTC]

thanks for the watch!!

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