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Published: 2016-05-30 01:28:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 2778; Favourites: 34; Downloads: 0
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eleonoirelarenard12 [2024-08-09 21:17:30 +0000 UTC]

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Gustavhistory [2019-10-02 00:26:53 +0000 UTC]

Me encanta la historia

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0torno In reply to Gustavhistory [2019-10-08 00:24:47 +0000 UTC]

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Gustavhistory In reply to 0torno [2019-10-08 11:19:55 +0000 UTC]

Interesante

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ariesnopatty [2016-07-14 16:59:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for having submitted it.Waiting for new ones and welcome to Oscarwhiterose group!!

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0torno In reply to ariesnopatty [2016-07-14 19:24:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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DeAlembert [2016-06-13 05:41:54 +0000 UTC]

¡Oh! Luce muy genial. Me gustó mucho.

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0torno In reply to DeAlembert [2016-06-13 14:39:08 +0000 UTC]

¡Me alegro de que te guste! Gracias por el watch y fave.

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Bluebell2 [2016-06-04 12:24:17 +0000 UTC]

Ooo fascinating. Love his big blue eyes. Perhaps that was part of the charisma he must have had. Do you think he was nuts, went nuts or neither. Was it a perfectly rational man descending from his fake mountain having just killed a load of his friends?

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0torno In reply to Bluebell2 [2016-06-06 01:03:01 +0000 UTC]

Hmm - not an easy question to answer! I'll try to put my thoughts on the matter into words.

I would just say that the entire situation in France at the time was nuts, and the stress might have gotten to anyone. While I personally do believe that Robespierre probably suffered from mental illness, reducing his behaviour to 'madness' is reductive and ignores the entire historical and ideological context. Not to mention that much of what we know about Robespierre has been coloured by scapegoating even before the Thermidorian reaction, and reactionary propaganda ever since! Robespierre made choices we can consider deplorable, but nothing he did was so extreme that it can only be explained by madness. He had a lot of conviction in ideas he thought were worth sacrificing everything for.

What do you think? I'd love to discuss further

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Bluebell2 In reply to 0torno [2016-06-06 18:56:15 +0000 UTC]

What you have said is roughly what I think.

However my interpretation of the accounts I have read of the closing act of his life is that the burden of the responsibilities on him and the isolation he felt as the sole in-play architect of the new order was sufficient to tip the balance into entertaining predominantly irrational thoughts. While his personal brand of deism is not in itself evidence of this, it really looks like it had overcome him. I speculate that like many others in history with minds superior to my own...they have been subject to a kind of aborted extramission. Er...it's hard to explain what I mean. They project their ideas and insights outwards and are disappointed by what comes back. Robespierre really believed that virtue was a thing that could be called into existence rather than a stance or empty phrase. Those who had the minds to understand his ideas were unable to receive them and mostly snuffed out shortly after. In his intellectual loneliness and despair he created a presence of the divine within himself that whilst it must have been gratifying, partly blinded him to the political expediency that would have saved his life and his project.

That's what I think happened. Sorry if it fails to make any sense. It's too hot today.

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0torno In reply to Bluebell2 [2016-06-08 19:07:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think that's all fair. I would just add that his enormous conviction in these principles would make it all the more crushing when they were revealed to be less concrete than he thought (I'm thinking here specifically about General Will, and how the French people seemed to betray the virtue they were supposed to embody according to Rousseau's philosophy.) - resulting in a fatal combination of inflexible dogma and disillusionment. In such a situation, I can easily imagine that Robespierre would react by clinging on even tighter to his principles, consequently distancing himself from reality, alienating the people, and leading to terrible results for everyone.

Condolences on the heat - I personally can't think at all if the temperature gets too high. But you've made excellent points nonetheless

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Bluebell2 In reply to 0torno [2016-06-09 20:25:00 +0000 UTC]

Oh you are much too kind and thank you too for the watch, though I suspect I can learn more from you than you will get from my the contents of my neglected and incoherent account. You are the Jacques-Louis David of our time, perhaps?

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0torno In reply to Bluebell2 [2016-06-10 15:26:39 +0000 UTC]

Ahaha I wouldn't go that far, but thank you very much nonetheless! It's my pleasure to watch. Hopefully we'll continue to have more interesting discussions in the future.

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rocio1617182324 [2016-06-02 19:19:56 +0000 UTC]

wow is kawaii

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0torno In reply to rocio1617182324 [2016-06-08 19:08:36 +0000 UTC]

thanks for commenting

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Valsayre [2016-05-31 16:00:29 +0000 UTC]

You made him unnecessarily handsome  

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NuitsdeYoung In reply to Valsayre [2017-08-19 11:59:25 +0000 UTC]

Unnecessarily?
Have you seen the Deseine bust of him?

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Valsayre In reply to NuitsdeYoung [2017-08-19 12:57:26 +0000 UTC]

Aye, it isn't nearly as handsome as this rendition. 

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NuitsdeYoung In reply to Valsayre [2017-08-19 16:09:22 +0000 UTC]

I think the Deseine terracotta bust is a stunner; ditto the pencil profile drawing. It's quite easy to see from them why the fangirls existed at the time.
A lot of the modern graphics (as here) are in a highly stylised form.

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0torno In reply to Valsayre [2016-05-31 17:37:24 +0000 UTC]

Haha maybe. Thanks for commenting

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Valsayre In reply to 0torno [2016-05-31 17:49:08 +0000 UTC]

Of course !  

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dreammoon0719 [2016-05-30 12:49:59 +0000 UTC]

Wow...... it's so cool!!  
Robespierre is my fovarite Revolutionary in the whole world.

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0torno In reply to dreammoon0719 [2016-05-30 17:14:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much, and for the faves and watch

I hope to be drawing more Robespierre in the near future.

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dreammoon0719 In reply to 0torno [2016-06-25 16:03:01 +0000 UTC]

ah, you're welcome
And I expect the drawing of Robespierre ^^

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