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anthsco In reply to genchang2112 [2013-10-23 23:52:48 +0000 UTC]

I strive to provide all views with these parts. Nothing annoys me more than designs that donot feature all views.

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genchang2112 In reply to anthsco [2013-10-24 00:59:53 +0000 UTC]

I hear ya'!   When I do my 3D models, I love it when I can get a hold of orthos that show all sides of the subject in question (which lately, have been Star Trek ships for me).   Should I get around to doing the Enterprise from the Abrams' movies, I'll take you up on your offer to use the resources you have, and utilize those orthos to help me keep the ship straight.    

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anthsco In reply to genchang2112 [2013-10-24 03:46:48 +0000 UTC]

Seeing how Nu Trek has tossed scaling out the window, your best bet for anything approaching proper NuTrek scaling would be Ex Astris Scientia (www.ex-astris-scientia.org/) that fellow has gone to great lengths in his attempt to make sense of the true size of not only the JJ prise but the other ships as well.

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genchang2112 In reply to anthsco [2013-10-24 04:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, scaling definitely got unchained in the JJ movies, much the same way that the redefined warp speed factor was part of the "technology unchained" philosophy between TOS and TNG.   (The scaling dismissal didn't really bother me though...especially seeing how it made some sense to me in Into Darkness.)  Apparently, JJ's Enterprise has broadside firing photon torpedo launchers, as well as port and starboard launch ports for support craft.   This Enterprise is more like a battleship than a heavy cruiser....hell yeah!


But ya' know, this wasn't so much a scaling problem as it was a "how in the heck does this all work" problem between Star Trek The Motion Picture, and Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.    In Star Trek The Motion Picture, the hangar bay seemed really massive, as it extended into the cargo section.  We saw the open fantail doors looking aft.   In Star Trek V, the hangar bay seemed really small...in fact, it seemed smaller than even the shuttle bay of the TOS Enterprise. 


I will say this though:  Apparently, turbolifts in the JJ Trek universe have warp drives.  I mean, in the first of the JJ Trek movies, did you see just how fast Spock got from the shuttle bay to the bridge in that turbolift?!   He wasn't even in that thing it seemed like more than 3 seconds.  LOL!

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anthsco In reply to genchang2112 [2013-10-24 12:43:30 +0000 UTC]

The biggest problem for me has always been the interior workings of these ships. Nobody seems to spare a thought as to how things actually work inside. 

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genchang2112 In reply to anthsco [2013-10-24 15:07:06 +0000 UTC]

Yes.  How much of that interior space has actually been reserved to support things like life support, circuitry, communications hardware, sensor hardware, the actual engineering and reaction control system, weapons hardware.....plumbing.

Yes, I know it's the far future, but still, is it really possible to micro-miniaturize certain key systems that are meant to support ships that are a couple hundred to several hundred meters long?

One thing I have to say that I love about JJ's Trek is that engineering seems really HUGE....it seems almost correct as far as its size goes to power a ship the size of the Enterprise (in either universe).    Star Trek The Motion Picture had an impressive engine room, but even that got reduced and reduced by the time of Star Trek VI (and actually ended up looking like a Galaxy Class engine room).  (Heck, in Star Trek III and V, engineering was practically non-existent.  I can understand why, since they aren't exactly major parts of the story, but still.....consistency!)

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