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Yrdenne In reply to ArborumArt [2017-04-09 12:53:47 +0000 UTC]
...because he left.
I always wonder what had been if he had stayed...
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ArborumArt In reply to Yrdenne [2017-04-09 13:03:00 +0000 UTC]
And I always wonder why he left...
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Yrdenne In reply to ArborumArt [2017-04-09 13:30:10 +0000 UTC]
Broken heart?
(I had to come up with an explanation for my story... which is that he learned about the witch hunt and the pogroms in Redania, so he left to help the non-humans in Oxenfurt and Novigrad. Since Saskia did not return his feelings, he felt he fell into disuse in Vergen. He though with a dragon Vergen would be safe anyway)
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ArborumArt In reply to Yrdenne [2017-04-09 14:22:54 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that seems to be the most canon explanation... although it was never confirmed that Saskia really was his love interest.
I always felt that it was more the hope of finally having a safe place to live, was his main motivation to take part in the Vergen independence thing. His dream also hints of that.
With the help of even a dragon he finally sees this dream within reach. Saskia is a powerful being that would fight for his cause, would even speak up for him... so I guess he naturally felt great admiration for her... but romantical love?
I somehow can't imagine that...
Why did he leave then... broken heart seems too easy of an explanation at least to me. It could be that he was probably needed elsewhere, as you also suggested. Or he realized that he wouldn't find in Vergen what he hoped for. It is easy to unite against a larger foe, but I guess when Henselt's army was defeated, there was no way of keeping peace among so many different factions in Vergen.
Even Dandelion's journal entry hints of that:
Nevertheless, when we arrived in Vergen it was teeming with humans in addition to its mainly dwarven population. Saskia's peasant rebels and a group of Aedirnian nobles had made camp there and promptly begun to measure each other with menacing glares. Meanwhile, all the groups that had assembled in the area were mistrustful of Iroveth's Scoia'tael, who strove to keep to themselves with unmistakably elven aloofness. Truly, if not for Henselt's army making camp nearby, the whole rabble would have been at each other's throats in no time.
So maybe he got fed up and left to return to his solitary fight against the dh'oine?
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ArborumArt In reply to Yrdenne [2017-04-09 15:07:44 +0000 UTC]
Me neither XD Somehow this doesn't fit his character... In the game you get to ask him if she's his fiancé, and the way he replies something like:"Don't mock me, witcher" made me think that romance is completely out of his question.
And you're right, I don't think he would put his (perhaps) broken heart before his greater goal either.
Glad you like my headcanon XD Iorveth teaming up with humans can't fare well for too long, may there be a dragon involved or not...
The dream also touched me very much. I think it helps to understand Iorveth's motivation better and it certainly puts a lot more depth to his character
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Yrdenne In reply to ArborumArt [2017-04-09 19:05:54 +0000 UTC]
Buuut the point is:
How would he look like if he had responded to Geralt: "No, but I hope to change that."
You can´t take a warrior seriously if he´s totally lovestoned
He has something for her, remember in the end when he tells Geralt not to kill her?
Or the other ending, when Triss and Geralt find him half dead, with that knife that could save her?
I don´t think he is as stone-hearted as he sometimes pretends to be.
e.g. in Flotsam, when the brothel is on fire. "Our women are prepared to die" blabla heoric shit.
But IF you save them he is really relieved, and if you go to kill Loredo he is actually upset that no one saved the elven women.
In my story he has some sort of... former lover. But he "ran away" when things were getting too serious.
As if it´s nice to have someone who cares, but you know... he does not see himself as a caring husband, cradling a baby.
But also, a romance would make him weak and vulnerable. In so many ways....
And he can´t afford it to be weak.
The moment he gives in to something, the second he reveals any kind of weakness everything will crash down.
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ArborumArt In reply to Yrdenne [2017-04-09 20:15:55 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes, I didn't mean that he was stone-hearted, more like that it doesn't fit with either his life style and/or with the image he has of himself or rather the role that he chose to play.
True, he has a thing for Saskia, he planted his hopes of a free realm in her plus she is very charismatic (she's a dragon after all XD)... I just don't think that it is romantical love.
Or even if he felt that kind of love for her, he probably wouldn't allow himself to admit it or act that way, because it would make him weak and vulnerable, as you pointed out.
I also think that it would distract him from his mission of vengeance. Things like honor and staying true to his word seem to matter a lot to him, so I think he wouldn't allow himself to be distracted when his scoia'tael unit relies so heavily on him... but of course even if he might deny his feelings, he can't erase them...
(And I can totally see him running away from his domestic duties like in your story I think he would kind of hate himself for it, though, because I don't think that he would let anyone he likes down in that way)
A lot of the badassery and sass that Iorveth displays is just... well... acting, I guess
I think he also said something like "I am the man I have to be" at some point, so yeah....
On the surface he's all about hatred and killing dh'oine, but as you get to know him you realize that there is a lot more to him than just that, even if he probably wouldn't admit it
(I replayed the part with the women because Iorveth got mad at me for not saving them, after that I didn't fall for his heroic bullshit anymore XD)
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