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Arileli In reply to aeriaciel [2011-10-31 14:33:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks :3 Yeah... But the charming smile and the pretty face almost makes one not notice the scalpel (x
Haha, yeh, that was the intention... I drew this right after coming out from an anatomy class where we had dissection from 13:30 to 18:30h and I had the unluck to be the one to close the corpse after we ended :/ It was the first time I did it and I took half an hour just to stitch closed half of the abdomen D:

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aeriaciel In reply to Arileli [2011-10-31 23:45:31 +0000 UTC]

That wicked smile makes you almost forget who him is...

Five hours of anatomy dissection, that's a lot of time!! In my college we only spend two or three hours in the antomy laboratory. I've never done a dissection, either. The teachers are the ones who do them and we only have to study what they've dissected. It must be difficult to dissect and stitch, but I still want to see or do a dissection myself...

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Arileli In reply to aeriaciel [2011-11-01 00:01:11 +0000 UTC]

Hour class is every Friday from 8:00 AM to 18:30PM, we have one hour and a half for lunch. In the morning we have only theoretical class and at 13:30 we start the practical one... We divided the class in two big groups and each group is divided into a few small groups of 4 students. Each small group spends 20 minutes dissecting, when one finishes, the other begins... So, in the end, we end up dissecting for like.. one hour and a half, some times more, but we have to stay at the laboratory while the others are dissecting, studying the other corpses that are already ready or watching the others dissecting, if we don't stay in there, the teacher will notice and, believe me, it's good to have the teacher knowing you participate the dissections :/ It always help in the end of the semester... also, sometimes we have more dissections during the week, usually on Thursday night, from 17h to 19h or later, it depends on how much we want to stay working :/

Dissecting is hard, yes, and I usually am too slow at it... while I clean up one artery, the others have already cleaned a whole forearm >_> then I always get silly and boring works like cleaning up the mess the others made, holding something so the other student can dissect or watching the others >_> this during class, which is why I like to go to those "extra" dissections sections, because there are always just a few students and there is more work to do

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aeriaciel In reply to Arileli [2011-11-06 23:34:14 +0000 UTC]

That sounds really hard... I wouldn't survive having a timetable like that

Our course is divided into "modules" and each module has a different schedule. However, we always have the same total hours of class in each subject. In anatomy we have four hours of theory, five of practise (watch dissections) and four hours in which some classmates explain to the others a certain part of the theme we are studying.

Only three students per class are allowed to go to the dissections the teacher does every module. And only one of these students can go to a dissection each time. They are called "table supervisors" (sounds really weird when translated ._.). Their duty is to explain the rest of the class the dissections, so the teacher can happily dissapear to do other things and reappear at the end of the practise class to answer doubts. I'm one of those "lucky" students, but I haven't been yet to a dissection.

Anyway, even if we doesn't dissect, teachers want us to stay in the anatomy lab studying the corpses till the last moment. Last module our teacher got really upset beacuse many people prefer seeing things quickly and going home than staying in the lab. She was so angry that she gave us extra work to study for next exam... .
I like staying till the teacher comes and tell me to leave because I need all the time I can get to learn things. I am also the one in charge of explaining dissections to the classmates who are "slow" learning anatomy. So while the other "table supervisors" in my class have already explained everything to their groups, I am explaining the first dissection to my group. For the third time. It is a nice thing, though, you learn a lot saying the same thing a lot of times . And you feel happy when you see the others understanding the things you explain .

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Arileli In reply to aeriaciel [2011-11-07 13:35:43 +0000 UTC]

It must be great to be one of the table supervisors One of the only way I manage to learn is by explaining the subject to the others, so I think it must be relly good for the students to explain it to his classmates (:

We're actually at the "second" anatomy class in the course. In our first semester, we had Anatomy I, which was Segmental Anatomy. We had it every Wednesdey from 13:30 to 18:30. We had much more theory than practic, and in the practical class, our teacher would show us every anatomical piece bout the subject we were studying and that would be in our practical exam. Now, in Topografic Anatomy (Anatomy II), we have the theoretical class in the morning and dissection in the afternoon. But yeah, we don't spend much time dissecting, we spend more time waiting and studying in other corpses or taking our time to orgnize our stuff from the theoretical class. We also have a lot of students that don't show up for dissection :/ or that dissect once or twice and go home... Our teacher is really mad when it happens. Actually, we have two anatomy teachers, and they alternate in giving classes... The first one (who gave classes about Head and Neck in the begining of the semester and now just finished giving about Abdomen and Pelvis) was really upset when it happened, because, accourding to him "I, with my age, spend the whole afternoon here, so why can't you, a bunch of young people, stay too?"... and the other teacher (who gave the classes about Superior Members and Torax and which will come back this week) kept making us sign presence list after the end of the class or asked the... (I don't know how to call them, they're students who work at the lab and help the other students, I guess I can say they are the equivlent of your table supervisor) "table supervisor" to make a list of everyone who stayed until the end of the class.

Talking about exams... We just had one last Friday D: It must have been worst Anatomy Exam I've ever had. Abdomen and Pelvis in the same test D: way too much stuff

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aeriaciel In reply to Arileli [2012-01-07 19:36:10 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for the late (really late) reply. Exams, studying and procrastination take most of my time .

I am in the third anatomy subject. We had anatomy "one" and "two" last course. Now we are studying anatomy three or "splanchnology".
I went to my first dissection last month. It was quite interesting, although the only thing I did was watching since the teacher is the one in charge of doing the dissection. I always though dissecting was a very delicate "procedure", but our professor even used his fingers to take away the adipose tissue (that is the main reason we lost some important nerves and blood vessels).
I think your teacher (the first one) is right. If he spends all the class in the lab with the students, the students should stay too. Our teachers just come to the anatomy lab to say hello. Then they make us sign and after everybody has signed they "apparate" away. At the end of the class comes the teacher assistant in order to check if all the students who signed at the beginning are still there, or to solve doubts.
Few teachers stay with us, though. Very few.

Pelvis and Abdomen? Reminds me of last year . The worst anatomy exam I ever had included half of the embryology book+abdomen+back+neck...

Hope you had a Merry Christmas and you have a Happy New Year!!

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Arileli In reply to aeriaciel [2012-01-08 00:56:39 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry about that (;

I'm done with anatomy now... but I'm thinking about becoming a volunteer at the lab {their work is basically to take care of the materials and to help the other students who come to study} (: I'm at vacations now and I'm already missing the hours I spent in that place >_<

We finished our corpse! It's so interesting to see how it ended up looking... A friend of mine did a great job on its feet, she dissected every structure that passes behind the medial malleolus. *-*

I also thought that dissection was super delicate... Until I saw my teachers being not-so-gentle with the corpses and, sometimes, doing as you said your teacher did: using their fingers to separate some structures. The weirdest time was when my second teacher seemed to be stabbing the corpse with his scissor while trying to release its collarbone ó__ò {but, sometimes, the work had to be delicately done... A girl in my group practicaly tore away a great quantity of arches formed by the intestinal arteries D:}.

Our class is a small one {28 students in the anatomy class), so, mosr of the time, the teachers don't have such a hard time to give their attention to the whole class (:

Embryology+abdomen+back+neck? D: My worst anatomy exam was the first one in that semester... Neck+back, the one the everyone said it would be the easiest. The easiest one was the last... Perineum+lower limbs.

Thank you :3 I also hope you had a great Christmas and a Happy New Year

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