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Published: 2015-03-06 21:45:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 4940; Favourites: 23; Downloads: 4
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Well, I guess I kind of missed the boat on this (seven years after the fact), but. I've never done a meme before and thought it would be fun. (And I love looking at the AF artwork of other memes.)
Here's the blank version: www.deviantart.com/art/Artemis…
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Ooh, I didn't know the cast had already been announced, that's awesome!! (So excited, seriously.) I'd already heard that they planned to make Root a female character, so I expected that. (I'm not super picky about them sticking close to the original, so I could see where that might be interesting. Of course, that will change the dynamic somewhat, since in the original it was notable that Root, who came across as though he'd be a really misogynistic type, but was actually more thoughtful and farseeing than that. Whereas a female Root, the reasons for wanting Holly to succeed would be more obvious from the get-go. Which, may be part of their reasoning, as it would take less screen time to communicate/explain.)
I don't mind the idea of a black Butler (I can't deny that Nonzo Anozie from his pictures definitely fits some mental image of Butler I didn't know I had, though Dwayne Johnson would have been pretty awesome too), though now that you bring it up, I do see how that might possibly send an unintended message, having a black actor plugged into a serving role that way. (Wonder if this means Juliet will be played by a black actress, too, that could be pretty awesome. Though they might just cut out the character of Juliet altogether, which would be a little disappointing.)
Lara McDowell as Holly--I'm a little disappointed there as one of my main hopes for the casting was that they would pick a WoC for the role of Holly (that fits my mental image much better), but it seems like they were focusing more on getting someone who was Irish. It seems like they're going to be going for a significantly different vibe from the original book choosing an actress that young, someone who will come across as being more around Artemis's age. I'm really curious to see what they do.
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Your holly looks so bad ass! Gah i miss these characters so much! And i totally understand how challenging it is to draw everything from the books! So diverse!
I really like AF memes!
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Hehe, thanks! *replying an age later* Yeah, I always have found Holly the most difficult character to draw, so I've just kept drawing her over and over in various ways. (I'm glad you liked this version, this meme was so fun to do <3 I love looking at AF memes, but I'd never done one before this one.) Yeah, there are so many things I've always wanted to draw from these books, but then I sit down and realize how hard it all is. (That's why I feel like we need that AF movie, for reference. And it might galvanize the fans again, things have been so slow lately for the AF fandom. :/)
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I did the exact same thing 
I just cant draw her the same way twice DX
We've been waiting for the artemis fowl movie for years, we are not even certain they will ever make one
This is my holly short version >.<
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Hehe, I remember! I really liked this design. (Yeah, it is so hard to be consistent and draw her the same each time. And that's always been a problem for me, since I want to draw comics and have tried several times. It's so hard to make a character look consistent drawing them from several angles, and Holly is hard enough to draw once. x3) On the movie, I guess there was some news back to 2013 (I think they chose a producer? Or something), but I haven't heard anything since. But then, I don't know if I would hear anything, the forum I always relied on for that kind of news has been pretty much dead for awhile...
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So true >.<
It's not as easy to draw a character in different angles in many different comic panels as one would think. Animators must have it real tough (unless if they already use digital methods for it)
Yes, I heard of that too! It's sad. I suppose people can't wait forever and have to move on. And with the Artemis fowl books already finished, it's hard to keep people hooked on it. Even Colfer said there will be no more Arty. He already had 8 books of him lol
I find it unfair cuz harry potter made a lot of movies, Series of unfortunate events and even Alex rider had their own movies, but Arty doesnt T_T
Anyway, I hope you will draw more comics in the future if you arent already ^^
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Yeah, it kills me. xD (You can spend forever trying to get a particular gesture or angle right, and it still not come out the way you hoped.) I think the main advantage animators probably have is having reference for what they're drawing. (I've been into Avatar the Last Airbender lately, and the people in charge would go out and take hundreds of photos for their animators, everything from landscapes to choreographing fight scenes. It's hard to underestimate how huge a difference having something to look at makes, in terms of how much work it is and the quality of the final product.) Course, the artists still have to know their anatomy and be able to draw consistently, so even with reference, they have to have a ton of skill.
Yeah, that's true. I think it is hard for people to stay in a fandom after the series is already over, especially in the case of Artemis Fowl, where there isn't really any new material of any kind coming out. (What keeps me in is having my own fanwork to work on, though even there I've gotten a bit sidetracked lately. x3) A movie could reenergize the fandom somewhat and reel in some new fans, but yeah, it's hard to say if we're ever going to get it. :\
Hehe, I did actually do sketches for a couple of more comics awhile back. (One from TEC, and another one from TOD. And actually, now that I think about it, I started a manga-style one that starts out from the beginning of the first book. I got a new program called Manga Studio, and I wanted something to test it out with.) I got kind of stuck on them for now (like I have with every comic I've done so far), but I'd like to go back to them sometime. (I just got done with an Avatar fan comic [not fully posted yet] recently and have been working on more, so it would be nice to go back to my AF comics having that new experience. I think getting better at drawing comics just requires doing a lot of them. x3)
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Oh yes, i greatly admire animators, their work is not as easy at it looks and it does require a lot of skill to get it right. And it requires a lot of time too. I admire their dedication and skill so much. I'd love to try being an animator some day but lol im not much of a hardworker
Ah! Avatar series is one of my faves too. Never get tired re watching it
Are you still active in that fandom?
I totally agree!
It's tough to draw your own comic without someone else or something else keeping you motivated
I do hope you will get back to drawing them tho ^^
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Definitely. I guess animation is a little like wanting to be a manga artist or a writer or in sports; in some ways it's like a dream job, but for that same reason, because so many people want to do it, it also makes it a hard to break into. (You have to have a lot of dedication and passion, and once you're in, it would probably mean a lot of long days. x3 But, it would be nice to be able to draw all day and get paid for it, and being involved in the actual process of making something like that. And, being surrounded by talented artists and getting critical feedback on your work, your skill level would probably shoot up. Like with everything, I guess there are both positives and negatives.)
Haha, I just got into Avatar not too long ago, so definitely. (Actually, I feel like I'm just getting started. xD) At this point though, I have sort of run into a similar issue that we have here in the AF fandom, in that because the series is basically over, the fandom doesn't seem super active. But the fact there are still comics coming out helps, and I found a forum that puts out podcasts nearly every week or every other week that discusses Avatar news and goes over episodes in-depth, so that's fun. But, when I get into something, I usually do fanfiction and fanart kind of stuff, and that keeps me in it. (The Avatar comic I've been working on is one of my main projects right now. x3 And considering how many sketches there are, if I keep with it, that will keep me busy for awhile.)
Yeah, comics are definitely tough. X3 They're very time-consuming (even compared to normal writing) and so hard to pull off well. What helps me keep at it is if I can get a system going, and just get in the habit of doing a little bit regularly over time. (Trying to do too much at once I burn myself out too quickly and get overwhelmed by how much I have left. >> I just keep reminding myself that it's a marathon, not a sprint. x3)
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Totally, being part of something like that will definitely help you grow as an artist. It's not a lifestyle for everyone though since one could easily burn out due to the stress and the long hours of work. Honestly, I doubt I'd last in that kind of job but if there was an opportunity I wont be able to refuse it either
I think the avatar fandom is pretty neat! I haven't been involved in any groups for it though. I wasn't too addicted to the series though i do love everything about it >w< It's nice that they do podcasts and still went with the comics. Though it would have been much nicer if they just animated it. but comics is better than nothing at all. gah, i need to catch up. I might as well dA watch u
Yes I completely agree. We gotta remind ourselves not to rush it. It's easily to succumb to that way of thinking, like its a marathon, especially when you dont often have the free time to work on the comic/art. I go through that experience almost all the time recently
It's good to remind ourselves that
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Yeah, it's nice to daydream about, but the stress and long hours would also definitely be detractors for a lot of people...(For me, I'm very attached to having balance in my life. xD) Then again, it could be, depending on what animation studio you worked for and your role, your experience could vary. Some may be more extreme than others. (Although, I've been watching an anime recently called Shirobako, which is an anime about people who work in the anime industry, and they definitely fit into the overworked stereotype. xD!)
Lol, yeah, I have to be pretty into a fandom to start looking around at online forums (and even more to actually consider joining one x3), so I guess I've gotten pretty deep into the show over the last few months. X3 It would have been nice if they had animated more stories following the end of season 3. (I would have especially liked to see the story 'The Search,' the story about Zuko's mother, animated, and I guess the creators original pitched the idea to Nickelodeon as an animated TV movie, but they didn't get the go-ahead.) But, I guess I am kind of a comics person (if there's a manga and an anime of something, I usually prefer to read the manga), so I'm pretty happy with them. I admit, I wasn't sure what to expect when I started reading the comics, (sometimes with shows, they just churn something out to make money), but I think they're brilliant. They don't have the benefit of motion and sound, but otherwise I think the content of the stories, that blend of humor and shocking/poignant moments, is just so much like the show. Oh, are you? Thank you so much!! CCC: <3 I appreciate that a lot. (Sorry if I end up flooding your box a little, I'm posting on the Avatar comic in 4-6 page increments every week until I get it all posted. x3)
Yeah, I've really come to realize just how important pacing yourself can be. I think it works fine to spend a ton of time on a project all at once during those times when inspiration really hits and you just feel like doing it, but if you really force yourself too much and overdo it, you can completely burn yourself out on a project. :/ (Just working on something regularly, even if it's just a little here and there, the work can really build up over time.)
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That's so true. Damn, almost all artist i know always refer to that manga. It's the one called Bakuman in japanese right? Just read a few chapters of it and it made me realize how difficult life is for a mangaka. Honestly, it's not worth it for me.
i dont mind you flooding my inbox XD
Yeah, I always have faith in the creators and writers and animators of avatar. I know they will deliver good quality art and stories. They always manage to make it heartwarming and fun. Avatar is by far the best cartoon show I've ever seen
I'm afraid I'm at that state. I burnt myself out and now I have bad lower back pain and I can't stay sitting for too long which also means I can't spend hours drawing till I'm well again T_T
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Haha, Bakuman is one of my favorite manga ever (learning all the behind-the-scenes stuff where manga creation is concerned was just so awesome, though it is true that on the character development front, there were some things about it that I found frustrating and/or disappointing), though Shirobako is something different, in that it's an anime about making anime, with different characters and story. I was actually listening to a podcast where the hosts picked out shows they wanted to talk about, and this was one of the shows that came up, and because I was such a fan of Bakuman, I was too intrigued not to take a look.
(Haha, you might regret saying that c; ) Yeah, I'm the same. I notice when people do analyses of shows and books and what might happen, they'll often say something like, 'if the creators keep doing this, it could get repetitive and boring,' but with Avatar, I pretty much trust the creators to come up with something unique and unexpected. (I wasn't as much of a fan of Korra as of Avatar, but it was still a great show, with awesome characters and designs, and good plot.) I'm completely in love with the Avatar comics, (did I say that already??) and I'm excited to read the next one, which I'll be getting pretty soon. C:
Yikes, that's rough. I hate it when I'm not feeling well enough to work on things I'd like to work on. (That seems to be happening to artists more and more lately. I was reading an Avatar comic on this site just recently, which is an original story about Yangchen and her journey [here , I'm a little obsessed with it, actually], but the artist has been going through some pretty rough health issues related to her hands which has prevented her from working on it in a while.) I know teachers and drawing instructors and such always stress how important it is to take care of yourself and not push yourself too hard, so I've been trying to keep that in mind. Since I've been drawing a lot more recently than I had been, I've noticed quite a bit of soreness in my shoulder, and some in my wrist and hand, so I'm thinking it would be a good idea to back off a little bit, do something else for a while and come back later.
[Actually, this is one of the issues that came up in Bakuman that I really didn't like how it was handled—there's an arc where the main character, after drawing so much, overstrains his hand and has to have surgery, and everyone tells him he has to stop drawing for awhile, but because they're at such a crucial point in terms of building the fanbase for their story, he ignores them and just keeps drawing anyway, even though he's risking injuring his arm so badly he won't be able to draw again. In the end, his friends end up supporting him in his decision. I understood that it was supposed to be one of those overly dramatic manga moments ['I'm willing to risk everything for the sake of my dream!'], but it bothered me that the manga seemed to present it as though taking that kind of risk was the 'right' thing to do. We're probably all guilty of overstraining ourselves a little at one time or another, but for an artist, particularly a professional artist like he was, to deliberately disobey the doctor's orders that could potentially leave him crippled for life seems like a hopelessly irresponsible and short-sighted thing to do.]
But anyway, I feel for you. Good luck, and hope you feel better soon. J: (Do you think the lower back pain is caused by drawing, or is it related to something else?)
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Bakuman, despite some exaggerated abilities of some characters there, is still pretty close to reality that mangakas go through. It definitely was interesting but I couldn’t bring myself to read it all
Yeah, the avatar creators really know what they are doing. Balancing storyline, character development and animation skills, they did everything splendidly! Sweet! I never got to read the comics. Maybe when all of them are released I’ll read them by then. Perhaps there is a place online where they show scans of the comics.
Ah, yes, I am feeling soreness on my shoulder right now too. I bought a chair to help support my back. Now I just need a desk with just the right height to help improve my posture when im sitting down in front of the pc. I will remember your words. I’m slowing down now, telling myself to draw at least 2 hours and when tired, I stop and do something else, like work out /exercise!
That does sound like a misleading idea to people. Perhaps the Japanese people value hard work too much, achieving their dreams. Some people can be irrationally passionate. To us, it doesn’t seem right but to them, it was what they needed to do.
Thank you! I believe it was muscle spasm from sitting in a bad position for too long. I also didn’t get to exercise much due to a recent disease I got, dengue fever.
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Haha, yeah, it is pretty amazing. I only discovered Avatar kind of recently (like, in the last year or so), but because the series is already over, unfortunately it feels like I missed the time when the fandom was most active. (Most of the stuff I'm looking at now is fairly old.) So it's nice to find other people who are still fans to talk to. ;9
Haha, I'm not sure when the comics will be finished. (Maybe they're planning to go up through to nearly the start of Korra XD!! Well, I doubt they'll do that, but I would love to see the character at different stages of their lives.) I admit, I don't think anyone will upload the full comics online, or if they do, they'll probably be taken down. (I've heard the company that has the rights to Avatar is very strict about that—I think they've even made YouTube take most of the Avatar AMVs down. :/ At least, that's what I heard.) However, the free Avatar comics from free comic book day I think are all online. (They're mostly stories that are set between episodes of the series, and later between the comics, and they're fun, although they aren't as good as the comics.) I first read the comics by getting them from our local library (I put holds on them), but later I ended up buying them all. XD (Though yeah, getting them all, even through Amazon with Amazon Prime where they're a little cheaper, that does get expensive.)
I've thought about getting a new chair sometimes, too. (Maybe something with arms—that's a lot of my trouble, not having anywhere to rest them while I'm working. Although that would probably interfere with how I hold the tablet, too.) That would probably help a lot, I hope that does better for you. I should probably start implementing a system like that, with set time limits. (Since I hadn't really been drawing that much, it hadn't really been an issue, I just drew whenever I felt like it, and took a break whenever I wanted to.) So far, it's worked out that I just jump up frequently anyway (when I get excited working on an idea, I tend to put on my ipod and walk/run back and forth, working out the details), but I have to be careful when I get really zoned in. x3
Yeah, Bakuman is definitely one of my favorites. (Even though it might be exaggerated in some places in typical manga fashion, and clearly the main character naturally draws so much better than most of us could ever hope to in high school, there's so much real behind-the-scenes things you learn about how they make manga, I loved it.) I especially love the ideas for the different stories they work on that you see, they're all so unique and amazing, I just remember feeling the first time I read it I couldn't wait to find out what the next one would be. (Reminds me of Skip Beat, actually—in that one, the main character is trying to become an actress, and the roles she plays and the way she has to come up with her own particular way to portray a character is so good, I just look forward to finding out what will be her next major role she has to figure out.) But yeah, there were several things that happened that did really bother me. (I don't think it's a cultural difference, it's just manga liking to play up the overly dramatic. It's a pretty typical thing in manga, to have a character risk everything for the sake of achieving their dream or new power, so from that standpoint it makes sense.)
The fact is that many manga artists do have to undergo surgery on their hands from so much drawing (also math teachers x3), so in that sense, I thought it was a really interesting plot point. But those professional manga artists who have that understand that they have to take care of themselves, and unlike in a battle manga (say, take Naruto for instance—Naruto learns this super ultimate technique related to his wind chakra, but can only use it a few times or else, I can't remember exactly, but I think it would destroy him or leave him crippled or something like that), where his taking that risk in the middle of a battle he can't afford to lose adds to the dramatic impact without really relating to anything most of us experience in real life, I felt like Bakuman doing that same thing in a more real-life context was sending kind of a bad message. (Most people probably wouldn't take that seriously, and understand it's just a manga, but even so, I would have preferred they take a more interesting and complex take on the whole thing, rather than going for a manga cliché that feels more unbelievable in a real-life setting.)
(It made sense that it was important that they keep up with putting out their manga at that critical point when they were just starting to garner fans, and in the end, it did prove that not being able to produce their manga in that time ruined their chances for getting an anime, which was unfortunate, but if he messed up his arm and couldn't draw again, he couldn't live his dream anyway, and that would have been the most tragic end of all.)
Yikes, that sounds pretty serious. (I looked it up, it says that disease is related to Yellow Fever.) Is it completely gone, or do you think some of this could be related to issues left over from it? (I know with some diseases, even after you're technically over, some things still linger.)
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Oh wow, what took you so long to find it?
Although I did watch it around the time when it was aired, i wasn't active in the fandom either.
Yup! I got to read the first comic on a youtube video actually. They probably already took that video down. Damn, I suppose they purposely had it in comic form instead of a show, maybe it gives them more profit? Hard for those fans who don't really use online shopping though (like me, cause i don't trust international shipping and its super expensive ugh)
My new chair is currently not suited for the table im using. I still kinda have to reach out to be able to type on my laptop. I get zoned in for hours sometimes, i forget to eat O_O But that doesn't usually happen because I don't have an entire day to draw anyway (because of work) I return home exhausted most of the time and will have little to no energy to draw T_T It's why I'm so envious of people here on dA, those that upload like 100 drawings a day lol
That's pretty cool drawing habit you do, I'll try applying that to my own drawing time as well
That's a good point. It's all part of the drama although parts of it are still inspired from reality. I do think there are very talented artists like the MC on Bakuman. Some start at getting very skilled at a young age(just seeing many young artists here on dA proves that)
Oh damn, I LOVE SKIP BEAT
Kyoko is one of my favorite girls out there, she's so funny and it's amazing how she transforms in her roles and in her daily life depending on who she is interacting with. The love triangle thing is also very entertaining gah, i haven't read the manga in so long, it's annoying because the updates are so slow DX
Perhaps I will enjoy Bakuman too, if i ever get the time to watch it
I totally agree with that point!
Yes, I suffered for about 2 weeks, 3 days at the hospital. My platelet count got so low it alarmed everyone. For the next few weeks I still feel dizzy and I couldn't work right away. My immune system is still not as good as it was, I get sick easily now so I took vitamins. Though the worst part is I'm not helping myself enough because I don't sleep more than i should. There are nights when i find it so hard to sleep DX
According to what I've read, the effects of dengue can still make the person week months even a year after the disease. But not to worry, I think I'll be alright
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Lol, I just never tried to watch it. I wasn't really watching that much television at the time it was airing and I'm not sure we had nickelodeon anyway (I'm not sure you could get nickelodeon without cable, and we didn't have it at that time, although I admit I probably didn't really check). I did have a friend who was really into the show a few years ago (after Korra had started airing), so I did watch most of season one of ATLA from a library DVD then, but I was busy doing other things and didn't continue at the time.
(Lol, I actually only watched it recently because I had a project I needed to finish [some typing things up from notebooks], and needed something on television so I'd have something to listen to while I did it, and since I saw you could stream Avatar for free with Amazon Prime, I decided that would be a good one. And I ended up getting a little more into it than I expected. xD)
Oh yeah, I guess some people have been putting comics and such on YouTube. (I just never considered trying to view comics in that format, I always liked scans.) I'm not sure if others of the comics would be up there now, I've never checked. (I guess it would definitely be better than nothing.)
I'd say Amazon is probably the best online company for the best reliability and rates on shipping (our family pays a yearly fee for Amazon Prime, so we get shipping free), and there's supposed to be some kind of deal where you get free shipping on orders over $35, and maybe just over $25 for books. (But yeah, I would be surprised if that applied to orders outside the US, and I'm not sure how far along Amazon is in developing networks to deliver to other countries. Which country are you from? [If it's a secret, you don't have to tell me if you don't want to ;9])
Yergh, I hate when that happens. (I used to have a kind of similar issue, in that we had a chair where the arms were exactly the wrong height for the desk, and would go right up against it, so I had a similar problem, in that I'd have to reach forward to type. Now we have a chair that doesn't have arms at all, which is probably better, but yeah, I do think that's part of why my shoulders get sore, having to hold them up all the time. Seems like it's hard to get things just right. :/ ) Haha, I can relate to that. (Sometimes I wish I wouldn't get hungry, because I'm wanting to get more work on projects done. xD)
Haha, yeah, there are some people just like that (people that are amazing artists even from high school), but I think they are pretty rare. Drawing is so hard, and it takes a lot of time to cultivate the skill... (And I think it is true that younger people who are really good, some of it might be completely innate talent, while for some it might be the advantage of having a mentor, maybe a parent or older sibling who draws, who gives some guidance and pointers over the years.)
Yeah, Skip Beat is definitely one of my favorite manga. (The artwork is incredible, and it amazes me is how creatively done the gags always are. It's one of those manga that's just so hilarious, but is able to really capture some powerfully dramatic moments.) The next one is coming out in early March, and I'm really excited about it, since it's dealing with something I've been waiting for the story to get to for a long time. (Although I admit, I do think the manga does get a bit weird in the later volumes, especially relating to Tsuruga. x3)
Yikes, yeah. I'm glad you're out of danger now. (Sorry to hear that you still have to deal with lingering symptoms though, that's not fun. :/ ) Best of luck to you, hope you're back in full form before too long.
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I'm from the Philippines, I don't trust mailing packages honestly, especially international ones since they often get lost. I've worked as a customer service for amazon back then and i agree, they are very good to their customers. US people are lucky to get most out of prime
But without the arm support on the chair, it would give you sore shoulders and arms DX
I guess one would have to invest on a chair and a table that go well together, anything to make you feel comfortable while you work is worth the investment rather than suffer from back pains in the long run. LOL i know the feeling, often I'd forget to eat meals because I'm too focused on drawing
There are many skilled young artists on dA. Though to be honest, i don't like some of them that much due to their attitude or lack of social skills.
I read skip beat just this week and caught up, i'm way too confused now, there's too much dialogue and im lazy to read it thoroughly lol
But yeah lots of weird stuff with the Heel Siblings
I'm excited to see Kyoko as Momiji though!
Aw, thank you!
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[Dangit, it keeps mashing my paragraphs all together. ':/ I guess I need to remind myself to go through and manually put the spaces back in...]
Oh yeah, that could be a problem. If you can't rely on the stuff to actually reach you, it just feels like a waste of money. (You can try to get the money back when things like that happen, but it can be such a hassle...)
Strangely, my shoulder hasn't been getting as sore recently, even though I've been drawing a lot. (Maybe the strength in my arms is being built back up after going so long without drawing much.)
Lol, yeah, I guess learning how to interact with people is a skillset all on its own. (From what I've seen, I think dA does have, for the most part, a more healthy culture than YouTube. I've gotten so I'm almost scared to look at YouTube comments. XD But yeah, I think people can always improve. I've tried to get better myself about leaving comments on works, since in the past I know I've been kind of bad about just keeping silent and in the background. I know I appreciate it when people take time to tell me their thoughts and give feedback on my work, so I've been trying to get in the habit of doing the same. c: )
Haha, sounds like you've read past the point I have. (Unless the Momiji role was something mentioned briefly, and I'm just not remembering. That happens a lot. xD) I'm getting ready to read Volume 38, which comes out early March here. (I haven't tried to read them online, Skip Beat's one of those I always want to wait for the official translation for some reason. x3) Lol, yeah, Skip Beat is one of those manga that's very dense. XD (Kind of like Fruits Basket.) The volumes take forever to read if you actually read everything. (But, that's one of the things I love about the series. The fact that there's so much there.)
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It would really be a hassle if that happens yes. I know amazon can do full refund for lost packages but often times they make you wait some more and it's tiring having to call them again over and over.
XD lolol, that's fortunate. Maybe your desk and chair has just gotten more comfortable?
I agree! DA people are more positive, youtube is just... it's a mess. There's all kinds of people there, some good some mean, and people freak out over the smallest things. Although it is entertaining to read through comments but it's better not to join in.
That's good though! Being interactive will draw more people to you. However, it is time consuming and it can be tiresome sometimes. It also distracts you from drawing and getting things done because you have too much fun interacting with others online
Oh yes, dense is the right word. I appreciate that a lot of work is put into the interactions and emotions of the characters, however, it's just too much for me
Honestly i don't even read the whole thing and I guess there's the issue with translation too. Like, the translations aren't as good and it gets more confusing, skip beat does this breaking of sentences in different boxes and bubbles and it makes me lost. I also realize that skipbeat drawing has poor anatomy and it's really weird, but i still think tsuruga is hot
Hmm, i have already forgotten what i read lol, i read it too fast so i cant retain memories of the story. If only they made season 2 skip beat instead of that cringe-y live action -cringes-
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Yeah, that's just the kind of thing I would want to avoid. x3 (Unless it's really a lot of money, I would probably end up just letting the money go, and then just be reluctant to order anything again. Here, Amazon's reliability has been very good, although sometimes you can still burned with third-party sellers. Although, I think Amazon has gotten stricter than they were in the early days, so I haven't personally had any trouble with them in the last several years.)
Lol, that could be it. XD!
Yeah, I think dA is pretty good overall, though probably as on all websites, there are probably some places where things aren't as polite. x3 (It seems like on YouTube unnecessary rudeness is more common, but yeah, even there there are some places where people are nice, you just have to find them. x3 I admit, some of the comments are funny, though. xD)
Haha, yeah, I think it's good to find a balance. If you spend all your time socializing, while it might be fun, you don't get a lot of work done. (Part of why parents now get so worried over their teenagers spending all their time on places like Facebook, I guess. And of course, for introverts, after socializing you always need time to recharge.) But I also think it's healthier overall not to be a total hermit, since it's good to get feedback on your work, and also just to get to know people and their work, too. (I find I can work up more excitement working on my own projects if I'm looking at what's out there and can be a fan of other fan's work, too. If that makes sense. xD)
Haha, it's strange, but somehow the style of Skip Beat really suits me. (I like how much there is, the complexity and interweaving of the emotional arcs, the cleverness of the plot twists and creativeness of each new story, and of course the humor. But yeah, I know the style of Skip Beat isn't for everyone.) Lol, I don't know if I would call the anatomy of Skip Beat poor. (Though I will agree it is definitely not anatomically correct, and it is true that in the early manga, I did find the way Tsuruga and Sho were drawn to be initially strange, though that could just be that they're drawn to look older and more angular than a lot of Shojo manga, which often make the guys look more boyish.) To be honest, one of the reasons I love Skip Beat is for the artwork, I think the characters are beautifully done, and the humor and drama are all blended together so well. (The gags and humor are especially creatively done I felt, nothing ever feel trite or overdone, the art is always fresh and unexpected.) And of course, the clothes always impressed me, too. (The detail is just amazing, I know it takes a lot of skill to capture that true sense of high fashion.)
Lol, to be honest, I always have trouble remembering what happened last in Skip Beat, too. (I always find that's oddly the trouble with plots that are tightly written with a lot happening. There's just so much information it all just kind of blends together in your mind. I'll remember something great happened, and it was funny and well done, but all the relevant details escape me. xD) Oh yeah, I just read the latest volume (38) that came out. And of course it ended on a cliffhanger, so I guess I have to wait another six months for the next one. XD
Oh, that's right, there is a live action version. (Have you seen it? I didn't even look into it. xD I honestly can't imagine how Skip Beat would work as a live drama, lol.) Oh yes, a season 2 of Skip Beat, that would be so awesome. (Did you watch the first season subbed? I read somewhere someone was trying to get enough funding from fans to make a season 1 dubbed, because the major companies haven't been picking up very many Shojo animes for dubbing recently, but not sure where they are with that. I didn't watch the entire anime, I just watched episodes here and there that I knew were my favorite parts from the manga. I kind of wanted to wait until I could watch it in full quality on my TV rather than on my computer, but I'm sure if that was going to happen...) I would really like to see the anime go further though. (We have to at least get to Natsu.)
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Facebook is a big time vortex. Almost everyone I know is obsessed with using it and I kinda get that people get into the habit really quickly and stick to it for a long time. I'm one of those few who don't log in on fb as much as possible. I avoid browsing there at all and only deal with chat messages on messenger which works just fine for communication purposes without all the annoying feeds.
I can agree with the parents, young kids are overly exposed to social media, it isn't advisable. Often they are badly influenced by it.
Hehe, yes, there needs to be a balance between socializing and working. Finding balance is hard sometimes though. In art, it is indeed great to get feedback and you also learn from other people's art. XD
The best thing about skip beat is kyoko, and all the other characters. Her character is interesting and she's so amusing to watch!
Indeed, the mangaka, i believe, successfully gave us a good feel of showbiz and high fashion in the story XD
LOLOL always with the cliffhanger damn!
Yeah I saw a bit of the live action XD It was super corny i couldnt stand watching it
I watched the sub. I prefer sub over dub since dub can be so awkward and distracting XD
I have no news if it was gonna be dubbed though
I first read the manga, forgot the title. but eventually i found the anime and that's where i really got into skip beat! then i tried to read the manga again starting from the point where the anime ended ^w^
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Lol, I just read a book called 'The Power of Habit,' and it's really true, once you get into a habit of doing something, you just have a tendency to fall back to it. (Even though I'm not on facebook, I'm on other vaguely social websites. My main ones are this one here, fanfiction.net, an Artemis Fowl forum, and more recently an Avatar fan forum. And yeah, when I get into a mode of writing messages, I'll just sit and end up doing it for hours. I don't think that's entirely a bad thing, as again I think it's good to meet people and discuss things, and even just the practice of trying to organize your thoughts in actual text can be beneficial in the longrun, but yeah, it's so easy to go overboard and do it so much you're not getting anything else done. x3)
But yeah, my sister said she had decided she was going to stay off of facebook as much as possible, since she'd noticed she was spending way too much time scrolling through the things people had posted, and losing time she needed for other things. I guess it really is all about finding the right balance, or even just deciding to avoid places or websites that you know always make you have a tendency to spend more time than you'd intended. X3
Lol, but speaking of balance, I was listening to an audiobook recently where the author took the view that 'the idea of balance is a lie.' XD! (The book was called 'The One Thing,' and I think it's been pretty popular recently. The author argues that you're most productive when you can choose one thing to focus on at a time, without worrying about balance or dividing your concentration by trying to multitask or get a lot of goals done at once and so on.)
I'm still somewhat withholding judgment on how far I agree with the arguments, but I thought parts of it made a lot of sense. I find letting myself get completely absorbed in a project and focus on it and it alone helps me get a lot more done, and being able to choose just one thing to focus on, whether it be changing a bad habit or a working on improving a skill, makes something seem a lot more achievable than having about ten things you want to change. And if something feels really doable to me, I'm much more likely to do it.
I know, Kyoko is such a fun character. (So hilarious, but she definitely also has her serious moments. I think her journey as a person is so interesting to watch because the ways in which she needs to grow and mature avoid many of the more typical cliches of character arcs.)
Haha yeah, again, I really can't picture Skip Beat as a live action drama. XD (I did watch part of a Korean drama of Hana Kimi, and I thought that one was good, but otherwise I haven't really tried very many dramas based on manga.)
My sister was the one who introduced Skip Beat to me. She decided one summer she was going to get a lot of manga from the library we'd never heard of and just read them. Some were okay, some were duds, but there were a few golden standouts, and Skip Beat turned out to be one of them. (She gave the first volume to me, and she was like, 'I think this is the kind of manga you would like.') My sister always seems to know what I'd like. XD
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I read that book too! I didn't finish it but I found a helpful video on youtube which summarized what was written in the book, and I was satisfied with how direct it was
Being active on facebook does make you updated with the trends and whats going on with your 'friends' however, in my case, i'm much happier not having to spend too much time in that site
Oh that's an interesting book. I'd like to read it when i get the chance. I do agree that multitasking isn't always the best way to go. i've read that our brains aren't programmed for doing too many task at once no matter how some people claim to be good at it. Being focused on one task is for the best, i think. You get things done faster and more effectively, it also lessens chances of making mistakes! I also agree with choosing tasks that are doable!
Your sister is awesome! Kyoko is an unforgettable character. So much depth! I like how she's so strong willed despite her sad past >.<
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Yeah, I thought it was a great book. (Of course, I'm always interested in books that go into the science behind how the brain works, so I loved that part of it.) One idea that I thought was quite poignant was that people who appear disciplined are generally not as disciplined as you might think—it's that they were able to be disciplined in the beginning, establish good habits, and then follow those habits. (That is, they aren't really disciplined in the sense we often think of discipline, in a constant state of absolutely forcing themselves to do things.)
I know this is definitely true for me—people tend to think of me as disciplined (I'm the kind of person who hardly ever missed a day of school, always got my assignments in on time, and now I've never missed a day of work), but a lot of that definitely has to do with habit. Since I've never called into work, I don't feel that temptation to call in when they don't feel like going in. When it comes to other things I'm not used to (such as cleaning or cooking—things I avoid doing if at all possible) that I haven't established a habit of doing, I seem to have no discipline whatsoever. X3 Oh yeah, I agree, I think a lot of people who try to change their lives often have trouble, because it can be such a difficult thing to change our habits, especially when you're tired at the end of the day or you get discouraged. x3
Yeah, when we 'multitask,' I guess our minds are actually switching from one task to the other very quickly. So we're more efficient if we just focus on one thing. Whenever I draw on photoshop, I'll usually put an audiobook on, and it's true that that will sometimes cause me to make mistakes (such as coloring on the wrong layer or coloring the wrong segment), or else miss sections of the audiobook. However, in spite of the book's recommendation, I'm still not ready to let go of multitasking, since even though I might miss things or make mistakes, I've found listening to audiobooks is very helpful to work on my art for much longer stretches at a time. I'm just more likely to sit down and draw if I have a good audiobook to look forward to as well.
I know, my sister tends to try new things more than I do. XD (I would never have any new music if not for her. I just listen to my favorites over and over. XD) Yeah, Kyoko is so awesome. The fact she was such a kind and giving person before being transformed by her experience to become so bitter and obsessed with revenge...I like how it's both so hilarious and dramatic at the same time. And interestingly, on another level, I like how, even though the change does seem to be a bad one in many ways, ultimately it has led to a kind of growth for her. (Even though she was so self-sacrificial and giving before, she was also naïve and wasn't really her own person with goals of her own, because all she cared about was helping Sho. Learning to be her own person with her own goals does ultimately become a good thing for her.)
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Habits can be so easily forgotten sometimes. There was that tip about finding a trigger for the habit. Like for example in the morning when you are in your bathroom and looking at your toothbrush, your trigger is seeing the toothbrush and wanting to keep that minty taste after brushing XD or something like that
Lately i've been so tired and busy i lost interest in some hobbies of mine. I had to always find a way to keep things interesting for me.
It's great though that you can listen to audiobooks while drawing. It keeps you inspired! I dont even listen to music when I draw O_O I've come up with a strategy like i wont do lineart and coloring shading on the same day, since I get tired doing line art easily. coloring base colors take me a really long time too! DX so after my base I usually dont go straight to shading since i usually mess up my work when im tired.
I agree with what you said about kyoko. Even negative experiences help a person grow!
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Yeah, I thought it was a really good book. I think understanding how habits work can help you sort of arrange to have certain triggers that will help you accomplish things you want to do. I often go in streaks of working on particular projects, simply because I get in the habit of doing it, and I just get that feeling like, at that particular time of day in those particular circumstances, I just feel like going and doing it.
Yeah, I've had that happen, too. (Particularly when I was in college—when I was so busy with schoolwork I just wouldn't have time to work on my own projects at all, and so even those few times when I had free time I couldn't really work on them, because I was just too mentally tired, plus I wasn't in the habit of doing them, and they felt unfamiliar. I order to get into the proper mode of working on my own projects I set for myself, I really need extra time to be able to work on them regularly.) And also, there have been times I just feel so tired nothing I was excited about feels fun anymore. When that happens, I usually just try to get some extra sleep, and pretty much always after I feel rested again my motivation and excitement level comes back.
(Actually, I listened to another book not too long ago, called The Sleep Revolution. It talks about how important sleep is to your health and being able to function in top form, and I realize that's definitely true for me. I just feel more ambitious and productive, and I enjoy everything more, when I've gotten enough sleep. Of course, that can be hard to do if you have to get up early. :/ )
That's a good strategy. I'm kind of the same way (particularly when it comes to comics) in that lineart seems to be one of the more tiring and tedious parts of the process for me. I think it's because you really have to commit at that point, so it has to be spot-on, and so I find that part a bit stressful. XD (However, for the comic I'm working on now, I did the lineart with MangaStudio, which has a feature that lets you stabilize the lines and makes them look very clean, so I think that worked a lot better than doing the lineart in photoshop.) Blocking in colors isn't hard, but another more tedious part of the process. I've gotten so I've started using the wand tool more often to try to speed it up a little (I didn't used to, because it always seemed to leave a slight gap between the line and the color that I didn't like, but I have other ways I try to deal with that now), but it still seems to take a long time.
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Developing certain habits require a level of awareness. After reading that book we become more aware of ourselves, what we do and make us be more aware of how people rely on their patters like for example even without asking where a coworker is, it's easy to guess where they could be just by referring to their daily habits. Games, marketing and social media utilize this concept quite well.
Yes, no sense in pushing yourself when you are tired and uninspired, forcing yourself could possibly result to you hating the task and worse, it could drive you away from doing that task in the future. So yes, a good sleep helps a lot. Sleep is so underappreciated! I swear when I get to have my own home, I'll splurge on a big king sized bed since I'll be spending at least 1/3 of my life there anyway
Getting up early everyday is tiring, especially if most of the time it is spent getting up and rushing to work (story of my life now)
But I love getting up early to go out for a work or go travel on vacation ^^
That sounds like a good book. I could really use some inspirational books right now
May I ask if you know where to get ebooks for free? (not audiobooks though since I always lose track of what I'm listening to)
I prefer downloading epub files, pdf files not so good
I see, that's so organized. You do the line art on mangastudio then color it in photoshop?
It's hard to do lineart on photoshop >.< I don't know how others somehow managed without using the pen tool
It takes some getting used to but once you've figured out a method and do it often enough, it gets easier!
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Yeah, I think that awareness can sometimes make all the difference. I also listened to a book awhile back called 'Triggers,' which talks a lot about that, just being aware of what factors in your environment tend to make you act a certain way, and then actively looking for them and making the decision to act how you choose to act.
Yeah. I mean, granted, there are times when I don't feel like writing or drawing or doing anything, and if I just force myself to start, then I get to going and I'm glad I did. But those times when I'm just feeling tired and everything I'm doing feels all wrong, I feel like it's time to step away and go relax for a while. (Sometimes that's all it takes to get re-inspired.)
Haha, I wish I could tell you, but I'm not too sure. Pretty much all the audiobooks I listen to I get from our local library. (I put a hold on the site, and they come into the library, and then I can keep them for a few weeks.) I will buy ebooks on Amazon of my favorites, mainly books where I need ready access to reference material for fanfiction purposes, but I'm not sure where you would go to get free ones. (For older books whose copyright has passed and are open to use by anyone, such as works by Jane Austen, I think you can usually get those for free electronically. I've gotten works like 'The Prince' and 'The Art of War' [as reference for a writing project] for free, and I think it was off Amazon, if I'm remembering right.)
Yeah, although that's only been fairly recently, on this last project I've done. It seems like a lot of work to transfer images from one program to another, but it's not too bad, and I think the superior look of the line quality makes it worth the extra effort.
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Agreed! lazy days have their uses, they allow u to recharge!
Oh nice! You're lucky you have a library like that.
I'll find a way to get my hands on some good books then. We have book sales here too but they dont always have the classic books
I did come across a jane austen ebook before, couldnt understand it very much tho
Hehe yes, doing it many times, u wont mind so much as long as you maintain quality!
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Lol, oh yeah, Jane Austen can be a bit tough. (Some of the sentences are, like, ninety words long, lol.) Seeing the movie versions first can help, so then it's easier to tell what's going on in spite of the older language, but even so...
Yeah, I think it's easy to get into this mindset that it's better to do it as fast as possible to get more done in less time, but almost always when I go back to look at old works later, I'm glad if I put extra time and attention into something. (Sometimes little things that look off can affect the read of the entire picture.)
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Yeah, if it weren't for the movie(and the much needed subtitles for me) I wouldn't have understood what Pride and Prejudice was about
On a random note I also watched the Pride Prejudice and Zombies movie and it wasnt the best but it was still cool. One of my drawings is even inspired from one of the scenes in that movie
Totally agree with you there!
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Lol, yeah, our family has seen Pride and Prejudice and the others so many times that I've almost forgotten how hard it is to understand the kind of older English that they use. (When you already know the context of the scene and what they're saying means, you forget how hard it would be to understand seeing it for the first time.) When we recently watched a fairly new adaptation of Lady Susan (Well, for some reason they called the movie Love and Friendship, which was confusing, because Jane Austen wrote another book called Love and Friendship), I wasn't at all familiar with the story, so it took quite a bit of concentration to follow what was going on. X3
Haha, oh yes, I've heard of that one. xD! (I remember seeing the books in bookstores when it first came out and got popular.) I think it's kind of cool that people can write fanfiction-type things like that and get them published. (Since the copyright is no longer in effect—when materials get old enough, you no longer have to get permission to use them.)
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lol i can imagine how hard it is to watch it the first time. when it comes to films or books that use old english, it takes a while longer to grasp what they are trying to say
I noticed that too! Jane Austen is long dead so no need to get permission really. and i think it's also because people already know that jane austen is the original author and that the book mentions it's inspired from her book, then it should be fine
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Lol, yeah. (Once you know what it's about, it seems so clear, so you forget how hard it is to understand just coming to listen/read it cold.)
Oh yeah, I think I've heard the copyright law states that a copyright automatically lasts through the author's life, plus seventy years. (So by that logic, if an author of a work died seventy years ago or more, you could write a fanfiction based on it, then legally get it published.) Although it looks like in some cases the protection can be even longer, 95, or even 120 years. (Something like that. I tried to look it up, but it seems complicated...) Of course, in the case of Jane Austen, it's been long enough that's not an issue at all.
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Wow, i didn't know there was a certain number of years for copyright law depending on the author. That does sound complicated
Perhaps doing an original seem less of a hassle eh
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Thanks so much!! :'D (It's kind of freeing to do something like this, but it seems to take about ten times as long as you'd mean it to, lol.) Yeah, number 9 is kind of an inside joke...(Probably only my sister and I would get the entirety of the joke, and between the two of us, I'm the only one who would laugh. My sister would probably roll her eyes. XD! I can't really explain it...I wasn't sure whether I should do this for that reason, but I honestly couldn't think of anything else, given that we technically already know what the ending is now, lol.) But yeah, waving all that aside, I admit I have always secretly thought Artemis/Opal would make a great pairing. XD
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Hee! The thrall rune! *falls over laughing*
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Thanks for doing this meme; the last panel must have worked, because I finally went ahead and did one of my own ^ ^ Always wanted to before, but my art skills were... um... not to be seen by the eyes of others unless I had spent 5 hours slaving over them, and I didn't want to do that with so many panels. >_> But now I'm at least at a level where I'm not ashamed of my sketches, so I went ahead!
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Haha, that's great! (See, runes /are/ more powerful than the mesmer ;9) I'll have to go check it out~ C:
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That was really nice, I'm glad you filled it in! And I like your depiction of Holly (you did get her right, don't worry!)
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Haha, thanks, it was so much fun to do!
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I love this meme, so glad to see a recent take on it!!
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hee, thanks! :'D yeah, I noticed no one had done it in a long time, and I wondered if it was weird to be doing it again now...but I decided I wanted to do it anyway, hehe.
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No, its not weird at all! Its fun seeing peoples' takes on this meme, maybe now more people will do it.
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OH yeah, i love this ! I wanted to complete one once too... but i abandonned xD
Th'ats very great, but i didn't understand great you answer at the 9th 'o'.
Oh and if it wasn't in only the five first books, what scene did youhave choose ? x3 (conditionnal... i don't konw how to grammar it in english. '-')
I think i know but i'm not sure ^^
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Haha, thanks! :'D (ooh, if you do ever finish it, tell me! I want to see it!) Lol, yeah, I'm pretty sure the ninth one won't make sense to most people. X3 (It's an inside joke, and not a very funny one at that...except to me and my weird sense of humor. ;9)
Oh, a conditional sentence in english? (It's so fun to think about the structure of language, but it's hard too. X3) I think you would word the question like this: "What scene would you have chosen?" Hehh, of course my favorite scenes from the series would mostly be from The Time Paradox...my absolute favorite scene though is where Artemis and Holly are at the McGraney dairy farm sitting on the hood of the stolen mini cooper, and Artemis says, "It wasn't you, Holly." (I guess I really go for angsty, crushing moments...)
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