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"Bold…? I’ve got something to tell you… I’m… carrying your cubs!""Oh, that’s wonderful! Wonderful! Oh Whisper, I’m so happy!"
"I’m glad! Because you do realize it means we’re going to have to leave here!"
"Why?"
"I want my cubs to be born somewhere safe, where they can be near their own family!"
"What do you mean?"
"I want them to be born in… White Deer Park!"
Bold just started to feel at home in the city. After his injury he wasn't able to hunt any more and came there - to scrabble human garbage. This life was nothing compared to his bold and free life in the wild. But he had found some friends there, and a mate: Whisper. And poor though his life was, he had sworn never to go back where he came from...
This picture shows one of the crucial scenes in Bold's life: The moment he felt most happy in his life - changing immediately to his direst pain. It was drawn early in 2003 and brought me some pain, too: It has always been the favourite of all my drawings. But the friend I drew it for ripped it to pieces after an argument. Few things in my life did hurt me more...
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This is an amazing piece of art for these two. I see why you think so highly of it.
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Captured both, and the moment, beautifully. Kudos..
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Thank you very much!
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You're most welcome
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Ich werde mich mal outen und zugeben das ich das damals war und sorry...
Nach all dem was du getan hast, kannst du froh sein, das nur ich dein Bild zerissen hab und andere die deinen nicht auch noch.
Denke mal nach, wen DU in deinem Leben schon alles verletzt hast...
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Ich bin doch ein arrogantes Arschloch, das sich über sowas keine Gedanken macht.
Und jetzt verpiss dich und lass dich auf meiner Seite nicht mehr blicken.
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Immer schön lächeln und winken, Männer, lächeln und winken.
Beste Camouflage.
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Wonderful pic. Its lovely and detailed.
How did you do it? Just pencils? Its really incredible!
Oh, poor Bold deserved a better fate
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Thank you very much!
Oh yes, just pencils, nothing else...
I don't think so... it was the fate that fitted to him.
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You're right, of course. But I cant help but feel sorrow for him, still
It was a short, albeit full, life.
Oh, and I just found this AMV, in YouTube, its quite well-made, and I think the music really fits Bold, somehow. [link]
Again, I always liked Simon and Garfunkel, so...
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I know what you mean. I was crushed when he died.
Oh yes it was.
I cannot watch the video, it is "not available in my country".
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Its probably one of the most emotionally impressive death scenes in the story of cartoons, im my opinion. I saw it on youtube, even before I saw the show, and was totally heartwrenched even without knowing the characters
I was imediately sold to the show.
Ah, damn, thats bad. I'll givou a link to the music, then, hope it works. [link]
The Boxer, by Simon and Garfunkel. Now when I ear this music I think of Bold.
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Think so too. Heartbreaking. I saw the whole series and couldn't believe he really died in the end...
Link doesn't work, but I know the song.
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Neither did I, in a way. I knew he would eventually die, but seeing him grow up, and live has he did, it was rather hard to deal with that. His story arc is really epic, as only good wildlife fiction can be. Went directly to my top fav characters list
I like writing stuff, and I only hope I can do something half as good one day
Damn YouTube. But you know the song, so you know how emotional and deep it is
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Oh yes, I understand...
I didn't know he would die, and I never expected it.
Did you ever read the books? If not, do it. They're even better than the series. <3
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They are? Must find them, then!
Do you know Watership Down, by the way? I loved the TV show. The movie was OK, a tad depressing, and the original book is incredible, although I prefer the aproach to characters made in the cartoon.
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Yes they are. Much better. Bold's charakter and personality and his whole development is so much better treated there.
Of course I know Watership down. I do not like the movie at all, but the book is fantastic!
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...was natürlich nur meine persönliche Meinung ist.
Aber ich habe diesen Film in sehr sehr jungen Jahren gesehen, daher hat er mich sehr geprägt, das Buch kam später hinzu. Deswegen muss ich - so sehr ich das Buch auch bevorzuge - für den Film Partei ergreifen. Der Film hat mich damals inspiriert, mich zum Schaudern und zum Weinen gebracht. Daher ist er für mich - auch wenn ich ihn objektiv als weniger gelungene Umsetzung des Buches betrachte - sehr wertvoll. Ist eine persönliche Angelegenheit. Wie bei dir und HdR. Wenn es auch nur zu einem Promille vergleichbar ist
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Wir müssen den unbedingt nochmal anschauen.
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Och...aber soooo schlimm war der Film nicht...nur halt zu wenig insgesamt. Er hatte schon schöne, traurige, bizarre, verstörende Elemente. Die hätte man nur noch konsequenter weiterverfolgen können. Das Buch ist zwar um mehrere Dimensionen besser, aber den Film mag ich auch gern.
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Naja das ist halt bei uns unterschiedlich... ich konnte einfach gar nichts damit anfangen... *duck*
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Weils mir peinlich ist *anschmieg*
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Ah. Must try to found them, then! Really wanna read more about Bold
Ah, Watership Down. Liked the book a lot, although being used to how the characters were protrayed in the TV show, I kinda feel somethings a little off. Missed the love story between the female Blackberry and Campion. It was truelly epic. But, no questions there, its a fantastic piece of art. Read it a few months ago, after searching like mad for years, since I saw the said cartoon.
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Definitely.
By the way, books are always better than films. <3
I first read the book and then saw the film. That's why I don't like the film so much, because it shortened the book far too much...
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Jetzt muss ich noch etwas dazu schreiben. Es beschäftigt mich mehr, als ich mir selbst eingestehen wollte
"That's why I don't like the film so much, because it shortened the book far too much..."
Zweifelsohne richtig.
Aber: Allein die Tatsache, dass dieses Buch - ein TIERroman für ERWACHSENE als Zeichentrickfilm für ERWACHSENE umgesetzt wurde, ist ein ganz enormer Meilenstein gewesen. Das ist Fakt.
Den Inhalt des Buches hätte man unter keinen Umständen in einen Film packen können, Kürzungen waren unvermeidlich (bei welcher Buch-Film-Umsetzung ist das nicht so?). Dann hätte man schon eine Trilogie daraus machen müssen. Die Flucht, Watership Down, Hazel-rah. Drei Teile, wie im Buch.
Der größte Fehler des Films ist es, dass er die ganzen komplexen Geschichten nur grob anreißt, anstatt sich auf eine zu konzentrieren und diese weiter auszuführen. So hätte man die Cowslip-Episode besser ganz streichen können und lieber mehr Gewicht auf Efrafa und den Charakter Woundwort legen können.
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*wedel* Ja ich weiß... ich sage ja auch nichts gegen den Film (und der Satz oben sollte keine umfassende abschließende Kritik sein!). MIR hat der Film halt keinen Zugang geboten. Aber vielleicht ändert sich das ja noch...
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Ist doch ok. 
Hey, wir schauen es uns irgendwann noch mal ganz entspannt an
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Jappjapp?
*wein* Niemand versteht meine Anspielungen und meine Ironie.
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o.O Doch! *knuff* Wollte nur das Thema endlich beenden!
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*dich lieber in gewisse andere Spamthreads zerr*
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Nein. Genau anders herum. Wir haben erst den Film gesehen, danach hab ich dir das Buch ausgeliehen.
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Stimmt, und beim ersten Mal habe ich den Film absolut nicht verstanden XD Daher erinnere ich mich auch so gut wie gar nicht dran... *hust*
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Japp, ich erinner mich an deine Verwirrung 
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Well, I agree with you for the most part. For one part, books cover their universes much more thoroughfully than movies or even tv shows, for the other, books can gain a rather sluggish pace because of that. For example, I niver got to finnish The Lord of The Rings. Totally love the movies. But cant go trough the hundreds of pages of the novels. Too many details, too many (in my opinion,) unimportant stuff. And, here between us 
But that might be my main example in regard to that subject. For the most part I totally agree with you. Books beat movies. Pure and simple
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Don't missaprehend my first comment, no offense meant!
You just put your foot right into it! XD
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How could I take any offense? You're just giving your opinion, as I'm just giving mine. In fact, I think you gave me another way to look at the book. Thanks
But, yeah, I know that talking about LOTR, specially when people have disagreeing ideias about it, is always polemic. You should see some discussions I had with some friends of mine.
I think the greater problem I have with this kind of fluff is the fact that I grew up with war fiction and classic science fiction, and only started reading fantasy kinda late in my life, so its kinda hard for me to really get into medieval fantasy, no matter how good it is. :/
But, curiously, I consider The Hobbit and The Children of Hurin some of my fav books ever. I know, this sounds kinda silly, specially when taking in accunt my other comment, but I really liked reading those. Of course, the dramatic ending of The Children of Hurin is the tipe of ending that touches me very dearly, so...
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Oh yes, great works like LotR always polarize. People like them or not.
I didn't grow up with fantasy novels too. I read the LotR for the first time when I was 19, so it was rather late too. I do not think that there lie some reasons in that, it is just a question of personal taste.
Oh and if you like the Children of Húrin you should go and try the "Silmarillion"... really!
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Oh-oh! Baaaaad example! The Lord of the Rings is my all-time favourite book EVER! The movies are good, but the book is MUCH better, and if you had read it you would know that it is much more complex and differentiated ("Unimportant stuff"? There simply is none. Every reference, every sentence is part of a greater whole, whose complexity surpasses every other fictional world), that it is - as opposed to the movies - not about how noble the heroes are, because the heroes in fact are not absolute good, neither are the enemies absolute evil (Sauron and Gollum for example are neither just evil, and the "great hero" Frodo has lots of "evil" moments, in fact so many that Tolkien got fan mail claiming death penalty for him!). No, the Lord of the Rings is one of the rare fantasy novels which definitely is NOT simply about good vs. evil! You do not like "The Lord of the Rings"? That's okay. But never ever tell things like that in front of me - I'm a fanatic!
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Ah, as I said in the other comment, you're like a few good friends of mine. What example did I choose!
One thing that I would never put in cause, is the universe complexity and the historical importance of LOTR. Tolkien started a whole new style of fiction with Middle Earth, and there are a few stories about it that I really like (even though they might be even more in terms with what I said than LOTR :/ ). Just couldnt put myself to finish the novels. And, as I said, really loved the movies.
Maybe I must try to read them again, but I actually got the feeling that it was a pure story of good vs evil, to be honest. The idea of the shadow that menaces light, and the treatment of the enemies as evil and without possibility of redemption. Again, I might have been reading wrong what the author was trying to say, but something in the treatment of the orcs, made me remeber one old war movie, where in the end narration, they said that the americans would keep fighting until they defeated the "evil empire of Japan". :/
In war stories I like to be able to care for both sides (even if one is doing more harm than the other, heros and vilains exist in every nation). Of course, fantasy is not reallity, but I actually like when we can reason why the enemy is doing what it is. Ah, maybe I'm just mumbling nonsense, now.
The bottom line is, you're right. LOTR is an absolutely important story, and with more to it than meets the eye. I just couldnt put myself trough the 3 volumes. But, now that I think of it, I'll have to give it a new try. Dont have nothing new to read, anyway, so, why not?
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As I said in the other comment, I think it's just a question of taste. Tolkien's style of writing does not suit everybody. There are other great authors and books I do not like, too - its taste.
The Lord of the Rings does of course deal with the question of good and evil, good versus evil. It is written from the point of view of a hobbit, and of course he and his friends are the good ones, and Sauron is the evil one who threatens his home.
But during his adventure Frodo realizes the evil parts in himself and in the other good ones, as well as the good sides of his opponents. Think of Gollum. There is one moment (in the books!!) before they enter Shelob's Lair where Gollum, seeing Frodo and Sam asleep, nearly repents all he is doing - but a harsh word from Sam destroys it all. This scene always moves me to tears... And I never experienced the Orcs to be really evil. When one listens to their conversations (in the books again!!) they sound harsh and rude, but have the same dreams and hopes as all the other good folks. And don't they have elvish roots? Seeing Aragorn destroy all the orcs in the end stands with a biiiig question mark: Is Aragorn right to do so? Frodo acts in another way, and Tolkien was very careful to emphasize that: He begs to spare the enemies and to not kill them.
Moreover, when one tries to look beyond the hobbit's point of view in the book, there are so many details that show the complexity of everybody's choices, either to act good or evil. You will understand why Sauron or Saruman act as evil as they do, why Denethor or Boromir fail to be "good ones", why Frodo succeeds in the end. Not because he is "the great hero". Would he have been able to destroy the Ring if Gollum had become good again?
Ok, I'm babbling. I heard those arguments too often...
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