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Description Bueno, mi PC ha muerto, así que no puedo utilizar el Photoshop para dibujar. Por tanto, no puedo terminar más instalaciones para el proyecto de ghansen89 [link] y Daikaiju-fanboy [link] ni un dibujo propio que llevaba planeando un tiempo sobre Spinosaurus.
Así que, siguiendo con Spinosaurus, aquí van unos bocetos de distintos diseños para este animal, resultado de unas cuantas charlas con unlobogris [link]
A: "Spinosaurus clásico", con una vela sobre la espalda
B: "Spinosaurus jorobado", en el que se sustituye la vela por una joroba de grasa y músculos
C&D: "Spinosaurus ballena". Nuevos estudios apuntan a que la vela podría ser más larga de lo que se creía, por lo que una silueta fusiforme sería mucho más apropiado para una vida semi-acuática. Pura especulación, pero muy interesante.

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Well, my PC is dead, so I can't use Photoshop to draw. Therefore, I can not finish more facilities for ghansen89 [link] and daikaju [link] project, or a own drawing that was planning about Spinosaurus.
So, along with Spinosaurus, here are some sketches of different designs for this animal, the result of a few chats with unlobogris [link]
A: "Classical Spinosaurus", with a sail on the back
B: "Humped Spinosaurus", wherein the sail is replaced by a hump of fat and muscle
C & D: "Whale Spinosaurus". New studies suggest that the sail could be longer than previously thought, so a fusiform shape would be more appropriate for a semi-aquatic life. Pure speculation, but very interesting.

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Comments: 62

Carlosdino In reply to ??? [2015-11-05 23:37:32 +0000 UTC]

None of them is compatible with Spinosaurus these days! (you know, that fake-quadrupedal spino)

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grisador In reply to Carlosdino [2015-11-07 17:43:03 +0000 UTC]

Exactly !


The uber-chimera !

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acepredator In reply to Carlosdino [2015-11-06 01:25:06 +0000 UTC]

Definitely not a quadruped, but not a biped either. 

Both North African spinosaurids had short legs.

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grisador In reply to acepredator [2015-11-07 17:45:28 +0000 UTC]

Both ? Did you mean Suchomimus and Spinosaurus ?

Or Sigilmassasaurus and Spinosaurus ?


Because if sigilmassasaurus was smaller; it has relatively decent sized legs.
And we are not in the situation to say anything about spinosaurus hindlimbs

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acepredator In reply to grisador [2015-11-07 18:05:39 +0000 UTC]

The latter.

Every single spinosaurid remain found in Africa fit with the proportions of the 2014 specimen (whatever that is...it's not a chimera; the legs only look bit shorter on the model than the actual fossil due to perspective).

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grisador In reply to acepredator [2015-11-07 23:35:56 +0000 UTC]

Look; after the sigilmassasaurus thing its clear there's no ''clear'' spinosaurus hindlimbs known; yet.

And I honestly supiseo you didn't know the pelican model already; IF the animal was short legged.

2.bp.blogspot.com/-5G9wUvmoo4c…

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acepredator In reply to grisador [2015-11-07 23:44:39 +0000 UTC]

I have seen the pelican model, but I just don't think it really matters. This animal spent most of its time in water; what it could do on land is irrelevant as it didn't do much on land.

There are partial hindlimbs, however.

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grisador In reply to acepredator [2015-11-10 16:33:55 +0000 UTC]

I think the 'Spino whale' theory is utterly wrong; especially right now. As you know where're several new things happening on 2014 spinosaurus inaxcuracy catasthrope; just saying this animal almost never go to land and throwing it is wrong; as we see there're also a few things pointing the animal might be a terrible swimmer too




Oh that ? Okay than...

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acepredator In reply to grisador [2015-11-10 20:15:24 +0000 UTC]

A Spinosaurus on land would be pretty much unable to do much. It can't use its forelimbs to move, it can't walk on two legs (even the pelican posture is a risky maneuver) and it's going to be ridiculously slow.

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grisador In reply to acepredator [2015-11-10 21:17:15 +0000 UTC]

Uhhh... That smaller hindlimbs is in a VERY dubious state right now...

Even if it did shorter legs; look today's short legged birds like penguins and pelicans; they walk quite fast

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acepredator [2015-11-05 13:28:43 +0000 UTC]

A Spinosaurus would not float in water. It was adapted to sink like a rock.

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Carlosdino In reply to acepredator [2015-11-05 14:06:24 +0000 UTC]

Well, these are old sketches I made more than three years ago! And it was an exercise of wild speculation.

Indeed, I don't know anything about the flotability abilities of spinosaurs.

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acepredator In reply to Carlosdino [2015-11-05 16:48:24 +0000 UTC]

New study (came out weeks ago)

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Carlosdino In reply to acepredator [2015-11-05 17:42:40 +0000 UTC]

That on Sigilmassasaurus?

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acepredator In reply to Carlosdino [2015-11-05 20:03:10 +0000 UTC]

No, whatever the hell the 2014 specimen is (but probably applies to spinosaurids in general)

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Carlosdino In reply to acepredator [2015-11-05 23:33:55 +0000 UTC]

Ok! I should read it!

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ZaubererbruderASP [2014-01-13 08:26:24 +0000 UTC]

The Whale-Version doesn't only look very funny, it would also be very interesting to imagine what could have evolved from it if Spinosaurus wouldn't have died out (is this last part correct grammar?)

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Carlosdino In reply to ZaubererbruderASP [2014-01-13 10:50:17 +0000 UTC]

Yep! Imagine that! Evolved aquatic spinosaurs! (I'm not English or American, but I think the grammar is ok)

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ZaubererbruderASP In reply to Carlosdino [2014-01-13 14:17:58 +0000 UTC]

But the sail would also make a good fin. If it was a sail

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Carlosdino In reply to ZaubererbruderASP [2014-01-13 14:41:02 +0000 UTC]

I think that a hump is a better option! (in the real animal, not in the "whale")

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ZaubererbruderASP In reply to Carlosdino [2014-01-13 15:22:15 +0000 UTC]

Me too, but who knows

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epicdjs [2013-05-25 00:57:16 +0000 UTC]

I like B the best, classical spinosaurus always bothered me for some reason.

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Carlosdino In reply to epicdjs [2013-05-25 14:47:29 +0000 UTC]

Yep, I prefer it too

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Orionide5 [2012-12-24 03:18:32 +0000 UTC]

C and D are hilarious! But I think they might rob Spinosaurus of the agility needed to catch fish.

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Carlosdino In reply to Orionide5 [2012-12-24 09:48:15 +0000 UTC]

Yes, C and D are extremes XD

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DrawingDinosaurs [2012-04-09 11:16:36 +0000 UTC]

Funnily enough, Scott Hartman's recent Spinosaurus skeletal is actually rather similar to C and D.

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Carlosdino In reply to DrawingDinosaurs [2012-04-09 11:23:14 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know, but C and D are greatly exaggerated in fact

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masonday [2012-04-08 18:51:52 +0000 UTC]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Carlosdino In reply to masonday [2012-04-08 23:08:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for all the cools! XD

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Durbed [2012-02-14 19:51:51 +0000 UTC]

Interesante.

En realidad el nivel de isótopos de oxigeno hallado al analizar los dientes de Spinosaurus parecen revelar que era el menos acuatico de todos los Spinosauridos, vamos, no le iba mucho el agua ni el buceo.... a menos que se mantuviera sumergido como mucho hasta las rodillas la mayor parte del tiempo...

Ya con la joroba del B, que parece ser la forma más probable es un animal tremendamente grande y pesado para ser bipedo, seguramente cerca del limite estructural... si le añadimos más masa, apaga y vamonos. :/

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Carlosdino In reply to Durbed [2012-02-14 21:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Sí, si lo de la forma ballenoide no es más que pura y divertida especulación, por darle una vuelta de tuerca más al tema, pero vamos.... no es para creérselo, jejeje.

No fastidies, no lo había pensado eso nunca!! Tan grandísimo y pesado era como para no poder soportar una joroba?? Siempre da la sensación de que los espinosáuridos son bastante livianos en comparación con otros grandes terópodos...

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Durbed In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-14 21:41:16 +0000 UTC]

Comparados con grandes tiranosaurios quizá si, pero por lo menos Spinosaurus o Suchomimus son bastante robustos, más que la media en un teropodo. En el caso de Spinosaurus necesitaria una buena constitución para soportar la estructura de la espalda y unas 13 toneladas tirando por lo bajo. Seguramente el hecho de tener unas patas traseras relativamente cortas (esto no es seguro, pero algunos restos encontrados recientemente indican que casi arrastraba el pubis por el suelo, aunque podian pertenecer a un ejemplar más joven )tambien le ayudaria a mantener mejor el equilibrio.

Aquji se puede apreciar bien [link] (ten en cuenta que en una postura más realista las piernas estarian bastante más flexionadas...)

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Carlosdino In reply to Durbed [2012-02-14 22:04:59 +0000 UTC]

Vaya, no tenía ni idea.... fue precisamente estas últimas reconstrucciones son las que inspiraron la idea del espino-ballena, jejeje.

Tú te quedas entonces con la hipótesis de la vela?

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Durbed In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-14 23:56:55 +0000 UTC]

Lo de la joroba extendida? humm, creia que en el boceto B ya incluias esta nueva reconstrucción; pero si, seguramente la joroba tendria la longitud del Spinoballena, aunque algo más esbelto. XD

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Carlosdino In reply to Durbed [2012-02-15 09:56:38 +0000 UTC]

No, el B no es más que la joroba añadida a la versión clásica.

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Durbed In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-18 10:42:46 +0000 UTC]

Pues entonces deberia ser una cosa entre el B y el C, quitandole el sobrepeso.

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Carlosdino In reply to Durbed [2012-02-18 10:59:54 +0000 UTC]

Sí, suena bastante factible. Me lo apunto para futuras reconstrucciones!

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Milvolarsum [2012-02-13 13:07:59 +0000 UTC]

Truth be told:
A/B Encounter=running away
C/D Encounter= laughing my ass off

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Carlosdino In reply to Milvolarsum [2012-02-13 15:12:52 +0000 UTC]

Hehehe! Thanks for the fav!

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Milvolarsum In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-13 15:43:43 +0000 UTC]

you´re Welcome

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unlobogris [2012-02-10 22:41:29 +0000 UTC]

Bra-vísimo xD

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Carlosdino In reply to unlobogris [2012-02-10 23:48:50 +0000 UTC]

Mérito suyo, caballero jejeje

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BrooksLeibee [2012-02-10 21:42:05 +0000 UTC]

All of them seem a bit "fat". XD

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Carlosdino In reply to BrooksLeibee [2012-02-10 23:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Yes, they are that way on purpose. Spinosaurids were lighter than others "carnosaurs" but Spinosaurus was the longest theropod found so far, and perhaps the heaviest, so the idea that it is somewhat thicker does not seem crazy

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BrooksLeibee In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-11 00:34:37 +0000 UTC]

Most professional reditions done by real paleontologists have the spinosaurus as a thinner beast. So I'm sticking on that part. ^ ^

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Carlosdino In reply to BrooksLeibee [2012-02-11 19:10:03 +0000 UTC]

I drew them that way by personal taste, but if renowned paleoartists represent Spinosaurus thinner then I will apply for the future. Thanks for the info

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BrooksLeibee In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-11 19:24:56 +0000 UTC]

any time.

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mexicanzilla [2012-02-10 20:28:32 +0000 UTC]

La ''D'' esta muiy exagerada para mi gusto

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Carlosdino In reply to mexicanzilla [2012-02-10 20:32:36 +0000 UTC]

Bueno, me consuela que tu crítica sea solo sobre eso, jejeje

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mexicanzilla In reply to Carlosdino [2012-02-11 04:36:39 +0000 UTC]

POr que?
que seria una mala critica ¿?

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