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StarFreedom [2010-11-08 18:28:48 +0000 UTC]
Dearheart, addiction is such a relentless foe, a deadly tool in the hands of the enemy of our souls. I've watched people fight, fall, rise up again... it's not an easy process... it's something you really have to WANT, to fight for, and only by the grace of God can strength be found to follow through. I will pray for you both, dear one. It can be beaten.
I know how desperately you must want to help, and I know the feeling of powerlessness over these circumstances, but your support and love can be a lifeline to her when she may not be able to see any way out. And God's hands reach out to her through you. Never doubt the power of His love. He wants to rescue her more than anyone, and from the depth of your own desperation you know how powerful that love of His must be, boundless as the sky and more.
The style of this piece, the depth, the pain, the fear, the love; it's incredibly powerful. Thank you for having the courage to share, and never forget that you aren't alone.
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StarFreedom In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-11-14 23:04:17 +0000 UTC]
I did guess, and now I know. Thank you for telling me.
You're doing so well, hun. Don't give up, and never forget that you aren't alone. My parents have 23 years clean, and by the grace of God you can reach that too, and pass it, and keep right on going. You're precious, dear one, and have such amazing talent. You don't need those things, and your life is not defined by your addiction. Hang on to Him, sweetheart, and He'll never let you down.
And I'm here if you'd ever like to talk, just so you know. Also here is a site that my mom put together, and you might find it useful hun. It's a forum, not very active, but there's contact information and some good stuff to read - [link]
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miss-disorientated [2010-04-12 16:26:47 +0000 UTC]
Kristie, I'm listening.
I think I understand some bits, and some bits I don't... but that is okay.
Sometimes it's best to just listen and not try to work it all out.
Love <3
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carvingbackbone In reply to miss-disorientated [2010-04-14 11:16:28 +0000 UTC]
thank you for listening; if there's anything you don't understand; ask:
i'm willing to explain it.
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Dymii [2010-04-03 23:38:49 +0000 UTC]
I've noticed that before, heroine. The edit was a good one, and reading the piece again brought the feelings all back again just as strong. Normally I'm less affected on re-reading something.. but not this time! That more than anything speaks for how strong this is.
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InclinedToDefine [2010-04-02 20:57:31 +0000 UTC]
The dreams we had, in time, become the nightmares that define the territories borderlines, dividing love from what's divine.
Whether driven there or walked, or slowly crawling till you stop, the end result is still to fiend, just a ootton made sanguine, and with a glisten in your eye, you reherse that long and sad goodbye.
Scratch on paper all details, all successes, where you've failed, thinking peace in this you'll find, but instead it fills your mind, with those questions that capsize the sinking ship of sanity, but know at least the lifeboat's fine, and labeled built for you and for these times
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carvingbackbone In reply to InclinedToDefine [2010-04-04 20:47:32 +0000 UTC]
from janie:
. . and what if those nightmares i'm about to receive are far more mild than the nightmares i've already suffered and am now trying to escape. no hauntings of self-imposed destruction could compare to the nightmares terrorizing me all these year. no drug dream is pleasant, either, let alone the manifestations of horror i'm planting in my own back yard to relive behind my eyelids during supposed rest (or, lest you argue, in my afternoons very much awake).
. . if the end result is to fiend, why should i bother stopping?
. . maybe you think my etching on paper, my failures and successes, experiences and detailed accounts of experience are all for not (if it just fills my my with capsizing questions), but my scribblings on paper are what set me free. see the notebook paper yourself that these words found themselves constructed upon over monthssss .. and that was my only safety to fall asleep. write it down, get it out, free my mind and fall to sleep. if my rest is unimportant, then i shall scratch no more -- on paper that is. only to deliver to me to a constant itch.
yours truly,
janie.
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DomiSM [2010-03-29 23:45:51 +0000 UTC]
This is just utterly amazing...powerful...so scary.
It's unbearable to watch someone go through this hell and not want help out of it, wanting so damn much to grab them and shake them and tell them to wake up and let go of this demon, but knowing that alone won't ever be enough once someone is in it's clutches. My heart goes out to Janie and I hope that with your help, and the help of anyone close to her who realises what's going on, that she can beat this and come out the other side and shine again. My heart goes out to you for being one who wants to help but not knowing what to do. I pray for both of you, and I know prayers can do wonders. Have faith, and most of all don't give up on her. She needs you now more than ever.
Little Janie loves big Jesus...well He loves her too, and wants her back!
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carvingbackbone In reply to DomiSM [2010-04-04 20:51:27 +0000 UTC]
mmph,
srry it took me so long to get back to you on this.
it's been a rough riding deviation.
but thank you so much for your love and support and care and nurturing and strength.
...but most of all thank you for your statement of faith.
..something we all needed a reminder of this easter sunday.
thank you.
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qxvw198 [2010-03-29 21:45:08 +0000 UTC]
I am sorry to hear that your friend has this problem. I am particularly sorry to hear that she isn't ready to try to get back out of this hole. It may be dark and quiet and comfortable and away from your stresses, but it is still a hole.
I will try to comment more if/when I have time. I feel bad only doing something this short and trite so I will try to write more.
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Dymii [2010-03-29 21:12:57 +0000 UTC]
This is so disjointed, so emotional, so bare and raw.
Janie, Janie, it's gonna be okay. The waves of pain and anguish coming off of this scare me. Strangely, the fairy tales scare me just as much. You can get lost in pain and anger and destructiveness, but you can find your way back. It's exhausting to feel so much! However.. the fantasies are so much more.. seductive.
I don't know what to say, but I desperately hope you can save her, Kristie.
...as a side note, the 'Romeo and Juliet' one stood out to me the most. The bitterness was so strong. The second most strong thing was: "ihatehim|ihatehim|ihatehim
this is his little monster.
he just let the beast devour me.
so i'll just run the line harder!!"
That part... really, just made me shudder. I don't know what else to say.
(oh, and keep your dollar.)
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carvingbackbone In reply to Dymii [2010-04-04 20:57:50 +0000 UTC]
"the waves of pain and anguish coming off of this scare me." ....me too.
"Strangely, the fairy tales scare me just as much." ...you couldn't be more right. people don't stay stuck in dreams and wonderlands for any other reason than their, like you said, seductive nature. who WANTS to leave that. you cannot FIND that anywhere else on this planet. ..only beyond them.
..you're right. you can find your way back from anger .. you can find the beauty.
but there is NO great letdown than finding your "way back" from a dream sequence of fanciful flight. coming back to reality and the joys here and so pale and bland and so small from the dream there. it's not wonder people find themselves stuck there. who wouldn't RATHER be there? ...after all, isn't that why fairytales were created in the first place?
and i'm glad that you also caught the passion and fury and hurt and pain and sudden surge of betrayal and hurt and the only "revenge" is against one's self. i'm glad those spoke to you. after all, they're the reasons behind such struggle to begin with.
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Dymii In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-04-05 19:32:17 +0000 UTC]
..Yes.. However, Are fantasies the answer? Today in my philosophy class we talked about a novel called "The Plague" that we're reading. The town that is struck by plague is, before the epidemic, a normal town. People are strictly business and save pleasure for the weekends and evenings. We talked about many things, but it led to a discussion on habits. Humans are moral creatures, guided by thoughts of right and wrong. The world often disregards morals, things just happen by chance or coincidence. In order to survive, they don't think about it. They shut down. They form habits and follow life on autopilot so they don't have to worry about the fact that a freak accident could kill them next week, or some other disaster. They go through on autopilot, and they live their lives... without LIVING their lives.
Fantasies?? Are the habit in this story. You go through, you miss out on your life! The sweet moments that amount to so much more than any rush, thrill ride... you name it.
I.. I guess I went on a bit of a ramble there. I hope you understand what I was getting at!
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carvingbackbone In reply to PyroShadow18 [2010-04-04 20:52:30 +0000 UTC]
you're allowed to cry.
and if you can't right now; revisit it and maybe something will come.
i know that this is a loaded submission with near an impossible thing to say to it.
don't worry about the words.
i promise you this.
it's okay.
and thank you for the comforting support.
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carvingbackbone In reply to PyroShadow18 [2010-04-06 21:34:09 +0000 UTC]
thank you thank you. and no ones called me "little one" in so so long. tehehe
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Jump-and-Canon [2010-03-29 19:20:52 +0000 UTC]
It was a really personal piece. To me, the opening was the most curiously touching with the little note and chaotic little scribbles and notes. The rest became a lot more raw; in some ways more powerful, in some ways harsher. But I think that's what will convince someone how real and raw an experience can be.
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Jump-and-Canon In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 20:15:27 +0000 UTC]
Ahaha, no, I'm quite alright. That dollar can go to Beth's fund if that's still up and running.
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carvingbackbone In reply to Jump-and-Canon [2010-03-29 21:12:32 +0000 UTC]
ha, no, that's no longer in existence nor have i talked to her in ages.
annnnnd, the fund of grand proportions actually needs to be my own, buuut oh wells.
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prisonerdelalune In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 19:14:03 +0000 UTC]
And I did understand the drug references. I just finished looking up all the songs, and I understand the song references too, now. I guess I'm understanding a couple of your journals more and one of your formspring answers.
I didn't dare to ask in my comment above, but did Janie make it? I wasn't sure.
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prisonerdelalune In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 19:31:20 +0000 UTC]
No, of course it was about drugs. I was talking about the specific terms. And when it comes to things like this, the emotion normally means a lot more than the poetic sense or whatever. In a piece like this, to hell with poetry and metaphors and rhetoric. It's heartbreaking enough.
I'm so glad to know she survived. And the scrawling on the table reference? That hit particularly hard. I know I've been there so many times. I used to set my messenger settings so that I was invisible to everybody, and then put up a status message just to express myself. I've always looked deeper into things like status messages and scribblings and doodles since then.
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carvingbackbone In reply to prisonerdelalune [2010-03-29 19:41:34 +0000 UTC]
ohmigoodness, me too. (about the scribbles and random bits/thoughts/phrases people use)
as for symbolism though -- i actually WANTED it to run through, like why i certain words were place where they were, makes that be the common strand through it all.
for example .. like most people don't even call black pearl and blue star the same thing -- sounds "pretty", but had a massssssive double meaning. i think most of the others are pretty obvious to another user or familiar user .. though most still call eight balls speedballs instead and eightball (depending where you are is kinda a lost term) and thus confused for the "predict my future' only purpose. everything else is pretty damn obvious though to a user/knowledgable person. (unless of course you don't know layne staley of alice in chains and then, welp, you just missing out on a biggggg one, lol)
but i'm sosososooooo glad someone understands the importance of one-liners and random sentence fragments. ....they sve my life and i cannot go to bad without paper by my bed for that very reason. always something to say. always.
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prisonerdelalune In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 20:02:52 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely. I talk to a lot of drug users, and I guess my vocabulary has just developed? At first I used to be lost, because there are so MANY words and terms, and it gets so confusing...but I read through hundreds of sites and got my terms straight at long last.
The one-liners and random sentence fragments is me too. Most of the times I can't really come up with a supporting poem, but those little pieces feel precious to me.
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carvingbackbone In reply to prisonerdelalune [2010-03-29 21:11:28 +0000 UTC]
ditto.
if i can't get the sentence/fragment ut of my head, it WILL eat me aliveeee.. ickyickyyy
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OctoberAzriel [2010-03-29 18:44:22 +0000 UTC]
May I ask who Janie is?
And unfortunately I got all the references to the drugs whether it was meant literally or just metaphorically it is troubling. I am aware of the "non-fiction" tag at the top of the page... which makes me worry about you...
And you can keep your dollar because I'd just trade it in to listen.
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carvingbackbone In reply to OctoberAzriel [2010-03-29 18:57:32 +0000 UTC]
oh, it was no secret that it was about drugs -- there are just sommmme terms/themes, etc. that in a literary sense lose their brilliance because some don't realize that a certain word in an otherwise benign sentence held symbolic meaning is all.
and it IS a non-fiction tag because it IS a "true" story -- as in the sections of writing were really written by a girl in immense pain -- verbatim. it felt disingenuine to choose "fiction" just because "i" didn't discover the mess quite this a the tale suggest (thus it's more "based on a true story", but i still felt bad to Janie to just call it "all made up") ....so Janie's a troubled little sweetgirl who fell to pieces and nooooooo one knew about it, noooooo one saw it comng. and it seemed to happen all but overnight. though, while the physical downfall happened "overnight" as the writing tells, the psychological addiiction and fantasy of the drug was there looooooong before it hit her veins. the rig was just the catalyst. still. no one saw it coming. no one knows how to help. only two people are reaching out to her or know (aside those she's run deals with), so she's, needless to say, not gettng "help" .. not like what is needed anyway. because it's still a part of her secret world.
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OctoberAzriel In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 19:06:49 +0000 UTC]
Do you help her?
Also, about that bit where "no one saw it coming", sometimes
all the signs are there...it's just a matter of knowing where
to look.
How old is Janie? Where are her parents? Who's going to help her?
-sigh-
I know you probably don't have answers...
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carvingbackbone In reply to OctoberAzriel [2010-03-29 19:14:58 +0000 UTC]
i do absolutely EVERYTHING in my power. EVERYTHING.
the signs were there, but the rest of the world turned a blind eye because "she was the perfect, good, spotlessly perfect girl everyone loved and looked up to and admire -- one who would NEVER do anything "wrong" or "bad" ..." so, they missed every sign that she was 'slipping out the back door'. ...i knew better. i saw it coming. did everything i could to prevent it. do everything i can now to heal it.
she is 22. her parents are around but completely "not around" also. think she's perfect too and don't need to worry about her or care. ....but that's the main thing. ...they don't care. at all. about her or anything or anyone but themselves.
i don't know "who's going to help her'. there are a few of us in on the fight; but you can't save someone not ready to be saved yet. but, we're about making sure it doesn't get worseeee until we discover a safe solution to make it better.
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OctoberAzriel In reply to carvingbackbone [2010-03-29 19:25:30 +0000 UTC]
Just to clarify, I didn't meant that question to sound judging.
Merely was just wondering if you were one that was helping her.
Sad about the parents... usually it's because of the ignorance,
the fact that they "don't worry because they don't need to", that
drives someone out the back door. A real shame.
You're right about the,"not ready to be saved" part. Because they
won't give it up until they're ready to.
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OctoberAzriel In reply to prisonerdelalune [2010-03-29 19:52:37 +0000 UTC]
It's fine hun. No worries. I understand how things can sometimes be read the wrong way.
And on a different note: Hi. How are you doing today?
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