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Description I mentioned in a previous journal about how I hated certain aspects of Family Guy. There was one aspect where I didn't go into as much detail as I wanted, and that detail reflects upon the most hypocritical aspect of the FG hatedom.

One of the most common things you'll see the hatedom coo about is the treatment of Meg Griffin. I'll admit, I used to be within the same quandary as them, that is until I realized how little of a personality she had (and hence it's no wonder she became the show's butt-monkey). Heck, she was bratty in the earlier seasons and has done some outright despicable shit in the newer episodes (forgot the name of one of them, think it was Kris Kross or something of a similar nature.)

Now, you'd think that these sentiments would expand to other butt-monkeys, right? No. In the newer episodes, Brian Griffin is subject to the exact amount of abuse Meg receives (heck, they span the entire episode sometimes), and wouldn't you know it, they revel in it, and are calling for his hanging. Granted, Brian has been fucked to hell in terms of his character, but having to go through episode upon episode seeing him take it in the ass makes me want to keep my distance. What's worse is that people even go as far as praising characters that are very well worse than others. No such example better fits the bill than Quagmire.

Now, before you crap your TMNT pajama shorts, I will admit that somebody had to call out Brian on his BS (I would've preferred it if one of his former girlfriends did it because then we'd be done with it), and he pretty much covered all of the points (thought the upbringing put him in low numbers), but in later episodes, any scene with Quagmire is just, well, unenjoyable, almost as if Quagmire is making it so he could put down Brian at any opportunity he gets (even in one episode where he viciously berates Brian all because he decided to pass himself as a moralistic person (the episode where they're on jury duty). Hey Quagmire, aren't you supposed to establish yourself as a better character? The worst part is, there's nothing more to his character nowadays. He's the angry asshole, whereas Brian is on the irritating side of the spectrum. Both are horrible characters, so why not hate them equally?

Also, Quagmire has committed just as much, if not more sins than Brian has (Brian's sins more or less correlate with egomaniacal actions and some unforgivable shit), whereas Quagmire has destroyed Cleveland's relationships twice, has a shit ton of children he has abandoned (Brian has one, and he managed to kinda set things right) and possibly more. Brian's bad but it's unlikely he's aware of how bad he is. If Quagmire could easily recognize what's wrong with himself and he does nothing to fix himself, that's hardly better. If I had sex with your wife and was honest about it, would it mean that I'm in the right? If it were so, Donald Trump would be president.

Back to the point, FG haters are quick to defend Meg (even after she has done her fair share of unforgivable things), but they're also quick to put down Brian Griffin. Are you for butt-monkeyism or against it?
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Kelbrad [2021-11-26 00:33:11 +0000 UTC]

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edgykid12 [2020-04-25 11:21:50 +0000 UTC]

I Like family guy memes

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GreenDingo777 [2020-02-17 02:09:38 +0000 UTC]

Meg Griffin is not an innocent person, she's nothing but a whiny ass bitchmade crybaby and her fans are even bigger ones!

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JimmyTwoTimes2K9 [2019-01-04 03:10:59 +0000 UTC]

I don't watch Family Guy anymore, I stopped watching it 8 years ago. Since then, I moved on from it.

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SnaxTheBlueGuy [2018-07-11 18:11:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god, I hate Meg Griffin so much.

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GreenDingo777 In reply to SnaxTheBlueGuy [2020-02-17 02:06:05 +0000 UTC]

Me too, that's why i made this

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TheGirlfromChelsea [2018-05-15 18:56:00 +0000 UTC]

TBH I think the hatedom oughta pull out that stick lodged in their ass and shut up. Everyone on Family Guy is abusive to each other, end of discussion.
And for the record, this is coming from someone who ALSO despises that show.

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Channeleven In reply to TheGirlfromChelsea [2018-05-15 19:07:27 +0000 UTC]

Alright.

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Boschian-Fantasies [2018-01-07 05:32:13 +0000 UTC]

All the characters are evil sociopaths, and deserve to be nuked to bits.

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kururu418 [2017-10-17 15:28:18 +0000 UTC]

Brian is a horrible person though... there's just no getting around that. It's hard to feel sympathetic for a character we know is an asshole. And yeah, others are bad too. But Brian is objectively worst.

Meg gets crapped on just for existing, which is why people tend to feel sorry for her.

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Channeleven In reply to kururu418 [2017-10-17 15:34:04 +0000 UTC]

Meh, Quagmire's no better. He's a hypocrite. No getting around that either.

Clearly you're unaware of the "butt-monkey" concept.

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kururu418 In reply to Channeleven [2017-10-17 15:42:07 +0000 UTC]

So you're saying because Quagmire is an asshole and he just happens not to get as much hate, that Brian should get less? That doesn't make any sense.

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Channeleven In reply to kururu418 [2017-10-17 15:44:21 +0000 UTC]

What I'm trying to say is that both characters are equally terrible, and both really deserve equal amounts of hate. What I feel is that Quagmire's character has been heavily degraded over the past couple of episodes, he has little to no character left, and the only significance he has is engaging in violence toward a liberal douche.

Again, both characters suck, and it's no excuse to empathize with another just because one character strikes a cord harder than the other.

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kururu418 In reply to Channeleven [2017-10-17 16:14:51 +0000 UTC]

Quagmire isn't part of the main family. That's not to say he isn't a horrible character, but we just care less about him. This isn't real life, it's a TV, show. So, of course, the character who strikes more of a chord is going to get more of the attention. That's just how media works in general.

And as you mentioned Quagmire has been pretty much been boiled down to nothing. Brian becomes progressively worse. We already know just how low Quagmire is, but Brian seems to sink lower and lower as the show goes on. The fact that he doesn't even acknowledge his flaws(even though he's fully aware they exist) just makes it worst.
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Channeleven In reply to kururu418 [2017-10-17 16:16:21 +0000 UTC]

Let's just agree both are bad. You seem to be adamant in further shitting on Brian for some reason, I feel like leaving you to your own vices since you're determined to keep to your views.

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kururu418 In reply to Channeleven [2017-10-17 16:25:22 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure how stating a blatantly obvious fact is a vice from your point of view, but okay.

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Channeleven In reply to kururu418 [2017-10-17 16:27:18 +0000 UTC]

...

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dark-kunoichi92 [2017-08-30 15:38:00 +0000 UTC]

That's probably because Brian deserves it most of the time, while Meg doesn't.

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Channeleven In reply to dark-kunoichi92 [2017-08-30 15:40:26 +0000 UTC]

A lot of the time, Brian is just shat on for the hell of it, victim of circumstance.

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dark-kunoichi92 In reply to Channeleven [2017-08-30 16:10:10 +0000 UTC]

True, but then again, Brian became a lot more unlikable since season 6.

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Channeleven In reply to dark-kunoichi92 [2017-08-30 16:13:16 +0000 UTC]

I could agree with that, but he's not the only one who suffered from this, his unlikeablity is more apparent due to the creator using him as a mouthpiece.

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Girl-Time-2015 [2017-04-30 20:10:57 +0000 UTC]

Quagmire is a hypocrite, and Meg isn't all that innocent as people thinks she is.

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Channeleven In reply to Girl-Time-2015 [2017-04-30 20:45:39 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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SonicAndTailsfan64 [2017-02-07 03:42:57 +0000 UTC]

hey, I defend both meg AND brian!

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Channeleven In reply to SonicAndTailsfan64 [2017-02-07 03:44:18 +0000 UTC]

k

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SonicAndTailsfan64 In reply to Channeleven [2017-02-07 03:46:18 +0000 UTC]

i mean, look at my reviews, i defend him all the time!

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Channeleven In reply to SonicAndTailsfan64 [2017-02-07 03:47:31 +0000 UTC]

k

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SonicAndTailsfan64 In reply to Channeleven [2017-02-07 04:03:02 +0000 UTC]

....

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TheSupremePokeFan [2016-12-30 00:32:18 +0000 UTC]

Wow, what a load of delicious hypocrisy.

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Channeleven In reply to TheSupremePokeFan [2016-12-30 00:32:59 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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TheSupremePokeFan In reply to Channeleven [2017-05-31 15:32:13 +0000 UTC]

Okay, here is something ELSE I find hypocratic with this fandom. You know how these types of guys also bash the SpongeBob episodes "A Pal for Gary" and "Petsitter Pat" because of the abuse of a pet? Well, from the way this is going, abuse torwards Brian would ALSO be considered animal abuse. I mean, sure Family Guy is a human character show and SpongeBob is (mostly) an animal character show; and I have heard about how antagonistic Brian can be sometimes, but he and Gary are both technically PETS in their respective shows...or, well, you get what I'm saying, right?

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Channeleven In reply to TheSupremePokeFan [2017-05-31 18:23:36 +0000 UTC]

I get it

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BenJJedi [2016-07-29 03:25:52 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I chalk it all up to hypocrisy.

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Channeleven In reply to BenJJedi [2016-07-29 13:41:15 +0000 UTC]

Ok

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BenJJedi In reply to Channeleven [2016-07-29 13:55:53 +0000 UTC]

The way I see it is kind of like with My Little Pony. People laugh at the slapstick that the "Mane" Six endure, but when Spike endures any form of slapstick, they claim he's being "abused" or "pushed around." Laughing at the ponies go through slapstick but calling abuse when Spike "suffers" comes off as hypocritical to me.

The same case is with people who sympathize for Meg when she actually gets abused, but they laugh at Brian's misfortunes and claim he "deserves" it, even when he did nothing to warrant them. That just makes them hypocrites.

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Channeleven In reply to BenJJedi [2016-07-29 14:18:27 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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MisterZygarde64 [2016-06-20 04:54:55 +0000 UTC]

You know Meg Griffen could make a good yandere with all the despicable shit she's done.

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Channeleven In reply to MisterZygarde64 [2016-06-20 11:44:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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Jordanwil818 [2016-06-17 21:18:24 +0000 UTC]

I don't hate Family Guy or Brian at all, but I do think Meg deserves better.

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Channeleven In reply to Jordanwil818 [2016-06-17 21:25:09 +0000 UTC]

Alright

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leesydreamy [2016-06-13 19:18:11 +0000 UTC]

As much as I can't stand Meg abuse (in my opinion , I honestly don't think she's boring either, but even if she was, that still doesn't excuse the abuse. Plus, it's the writers' fault for not developing her more when there's alot more they could do with her, I think they're just being lazy with her). That being said, I do agree wit Brian. While there are times I can't stand him like in not all dogs go to heaven and that episode where he gave Stewy herps (though he might of been ooc in those EPs.), that doesn't excuse all the abuse he receives. He's even abused in Eps. Where he's done done wrong, so yeah, I feel bad for him sometimes too.

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Channeleven In reply to leesydreamy [2016-06-13 19:23:09 +0000 UTC]

Glad you feel me.

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admirablessuck [2016-06-13 16:34:01 +0000 UTC]

Meg is the Worst character in the Entire Show!

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TotalDramaFan1000 In reply to admirablessuck [2016-08-27 16:28:20 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. I wasn't fond of Meg

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MisterZygarde64 In reply to admirablessuck [2016-08-02 07:01:55 +0000 UTC]

She could make a good yandere

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Channeleven In reply to admirablessuck [2016-06-13 16:37:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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Murvine-Taylor [2016-06-12 02:34:06 +0000 UTC]

It makes me kind of sad that the feud even started and won't end. Β It also made me sad when Quagmire beatΒ up Brian. I am currently working on a fanfic, whereΒ they finally get along.

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Channeleven In reply to Murvine-Taylor [2016-06-12 02:37:16 +0000 UTC]

Sounds good

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Murvine-Taylor In reply to Channeleven [2016-06-12 02:43:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. People really like it. My story is on fanfiction.net (along with the rest of my fanfics and my user name is Murvine Taylor.)

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Channeleven In reply to Murvine-Taylor [2016-06-12 02:55:54 +0000 UTC]

sure

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