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Well, since a long time I was looking for a review of Ben 10 Alien Force. But to my surprise, I couldn't find it : most just stated that it rocks or it sucks because of one episode or one detail. Usually, they use not so good arguments to justify what they say. I didn't wanted to do this myself because I didn't feel like I was appropriate to do this, being a Ben 10 Alien Force fan, but eventually I take the risk.

So... let's have a look at the story. For those who don't know the saga, I'll start with a synopsis of the original show : it was about Benjamen "Ben" Tennyson, a typically immature yet altruist ten-years old boy, who, during his summer holidays, find a watch-like alien device called the Omnitrix. It stucked itself on his wrist, making him unable to take it off. He then soon discovers that, by pushing its dial, he can use it to alter his own DNA in order transform into 10 different aliens creatures, each one with specific super-powers. He quickly looses interest in taking it off, and starts using it to act as some kind of superhero. The serie then mostly involves him using his powers to fight against various villains, including ordinary criminals, alien, magicians and other treath.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love the original Ben 10 too, but let's face it : this wasn't especially an original show. The only real uncommon thing was the heros' power : shapeshifting into various aliens is definitely something I never saw in any serie before. Maybe too the fact that Ben didn't have a girlfriend (easily explainable because of his age), though he had a crush on a girl in one episode. But safe for that, it was quite classic. Actually, it's quite like a parody/tribute to science-fiction and superhero comics : most villains were willingly stereotypical, such as Animo and Vilgax. Animo, especially, was an obvious parody of the mad scientist cliché. While it had good action, the show was mostly humorous and light-hearted, rather intended to be fun. There were few story arcs, but most episodes were just one short story. It introduced a lot of villains, but only few had several appearances. On the other hand, the serie had good design, especially for the alien creatures and monsters. And even though the humor was sometimes childish, I enjoyed it, especially the love/hate relationship between Ben and his cousin Gwen (I'm a big fan of love/hate relationship), though it sometimes bothered me Gwen almost always had the last laught.

So here it is for the original show. Now we can pass to the true subject : Ben 10 Alien Force.

So, here again I make a little synopsys : this is a sequel of the original show, who takes place 5 years later. Ben has grown up, and eventually found a way to take off the Omnitrix in order to have a normal life. But when his grandfather is mysteriously missing, he decides to wear it again. He then discovers Earth is actually threatened by new unknown aliens call the HightBreeds, who secretly planned to invade it. This lead him to team up with Gwen and one of his former Nemesis, Kevin, in order to stop the invasion.

One main change in this sequel is that, while as I said, Ben 10 was light-hearted and more like a parody, Alien Force takes a darker tone and tries to be more serious. It actually even has scenes with characters dying onscreen, including one in the prequel where a human being perishes in the explosion of his own disfuntionnal weapon. I can understand that this change surprises some of the fan, and that part of them dislike Alien Force because they think it's betraying the serie's spirit. I, however, just think it's a different approach of the serie. And it fits surprisingly well to my opinion. YES, you got me, I think a show created as a parody CAN be changed into a more serious serie, as long as it keeps a good balance between serious and humor. After all, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was a parody to begin with, and the comic version was despite this very bloody and serious sometimes.

I notice a lot of people hates Alien Force because of what they call plot holes and continuity errors. Well I disagree : as the story progress, the so-called plot holes get more and more explained. As for the "continuity errors", well their are a lot of things who are called so, most of them quite ridiculous because easily explainable. I'll mention several of them later, but let's start with the one from "Primus".
In this episode, it was revealed that the Omnitrix doesn't truly contain DNA, but is actually a wireless device who communicate with an artificial planet, Primus, who serves as a container for all the DNA used in the transformation. At first, it puzzled me too, because several time in the show, the Omnitrix was seen absorbing DNA from new creatures, giving Ben new transformations. And the villain Dr Animo was able to get DNA from it twice. Then I thought about this : in this episode, the Omnitrix was able to teleport Ben from Earth to Primus. So if it can teleport a whole human being, why wouldn't it be able to teleport DNA to Primus ? That would explain. Maybe too that Animo didn't actually get DNA from the Omnitrix, but the database to copy it...

Now let's have a look to the characters and, for those who were already in the original show, their evolution.

Of course I start with Ben. Well he's actually one of the most confusing about his evolution. As I said before, his original incarnation was a childish, immature and goofy kid. In the first two season of Alien Force, however, he acts more mature and serious. In season 3, he tends to act more like his ten-years-old self. At first this disturbed me, but actually that's quite logical : in the first two season, Ben has to deal with both his Grandfather's disappearance and the HightBreed invasion, the latter threatening Earth and later the whole Universe. This definitely explain why Ben have to put his childishness aside. While in season 3, the war with the HightBreeds is over, and his Grandfather is back. Not to mention he saved the whole Universe, wich caused him to become too self-confident. Other than this part, I think his Alien Force incarnation was much like the original : he's still so willing to help the other and protect everyone around him. When discovering the HightBreed were actually trying to destroy the Universe because they were dying, he choosed to save them from extinction. In one episode, he even tried to stop a war in order to realize the wish of a little girl. To my opinion, this Ben is at least as likable as the original, if not better. Sure, he's still less childish than in the original show, but come on, he 15 years old now ! What's so weird with it ?

Then his cousin, Gwen Tennyson. Well the most notable change with her is that her love/hate relationship I mentionned earlier is gone : she no more argues with Ben, though she still occasionnally criticizes his attitude in season 3.Some disliked her for that and stated she had been turned into a stereotypical innocent/girly/angel girl. I disagree. Seriously, just because she no more argues with Ben doesn't mean she changes so much ! They have both grown up, especially Ben so it's logical they do not argue anymore. I mean, in reality, what's wrong with children constently arguing at 10 then getting along better at 15 ? Seriously don't see the problem. For the rest, she's pretty much like before, still brillant and practicing martial arts.
One debat concern her powers : in the middle of the original show, she discovered she had affinity with magic, and started practicing. In Alien Force, it's revealed her powers actually come from alien bloodline, as her grandmother was an Anodite, an alien able to manipulate energy called "mana". This leads some characters, including Gwen's father and Kevin, to say there's no such thing as magic. However, later in the show, Gwen's powers are once again called magic and it's shown she still uses spells. Some fans called this an error. I will reply this :
1) Anyone who played at least a few fantasy roleplay know that mana IS the energy magicians manipulate to cast their spell, and that magic is actually nothing but manipulation of natural energy, just like the Anodite powers;
2) Neither Kevin or Gwen's father were really experts in this area, and they could be wrong.
So here is my conclusion : Gwen still is a magician, her alien bloodline only gave her incredible affinities with magic. As a proof, I remember one of her magician ennemies, Charmcaster, mentionning she had to learn all her life to control magic, while Gwen was born with magic inside of her. Some people say the producers should have precised that. Seriously, is it really necessary ? It's so obvious to me that I don't understand why they need explanations...

Then come Max Tennyson, Ben's and Gwen's grandfather. In the original serie he was one of the main characters, but in Alien Force he disappears, and even after his return, he never has as much importance as in his earlier appearances. There are not much to say about him : he's mostly the same in both series, and nobody complains about changes with him, except maybe his disappearance.

Now came Kevin Levin, formely known as Kevin 11. In the original serie, Kevin was one of the few villains to be more serious, as well as one of the most popular characters. A 11 years old boy with the power to absorb energy, he had been rejected (from what he said) by his parents who considered him as a freak, and, becoming an outcast because of his powers, became a sociopath willing to kill hundreds of people to get money. He initially befriended Ben, but later came to hate him, blaming him for an accident with the Omnitrix who caused him to transform into a monster. He was eventually trapped in the Null Void, an alternate dimension who serves as a jail for all alien criminals.
In Alien Force, he's revealed to have escape from the Null Void and get back his human form, as well as developping a new form of his power, making him able to absorb matter. After a serie of events, he eventually team up with Ben and Gwen against the HightBreed invasion, and reforms, becoming Gwen's love interest. A lot of fans dislike this change, saying Kevin was too evil and hateful toward Ben to reform and that he had been turned from an awesome villain to a failed anti-hero. But why wouldn't he reform ? I mean, if it had been Dr Animo or Vilgax, I would have understood people were shocked, but Kevin... for me he was even the most likely to reform among Ben's ennemies. He obviously had a hard past, as shown in both of the serie, wich explain his attitude. So even though he was a sociopath, I think he deserved redemption. The scenarist just gave him a more human side, wich, in my opinion, is far better than if they had keep him into just a cruel villain who want to kill Ben. At least they try to improve him. Sure they didn't reveal yet everything about his past, but maybe this will come in Ultimate Alien (something I hope, otherwise the fan will be right to be angry at least on that). Besides for a totally reformed character, I think he still has some villainous tendencies. He occasionnally works in black market, and even once left his father's murderer to death. If that doesn't count as a sign he has been a villain in the past... And what's up with him hating Ben too much to make up with him ? Venom hates Spider-Man, and despite this they had truces occasionnally...

I have finished with the heroes, I guess I should now speak about the villains.

First come the HightBreeds, who act as the main antagonists in the two first seasons. A powerful and seemingly advanced alien specie, they believe themselves to be the first race in the universe. This cause them to become arrogant, racist and awfully xenophobic, believing they are a pure, superior specie and that every other beings are mongrels and vermins, to the point they rarely fight themselves and usually rely on drone-like soldiers called DNAlien (who are actually human and others turned into drone by being infected with parasits) to do the dirty job. In the end of the serie, it was revealed their specie was dying, their behavior causing them to inbreed and become sterile, thus leading them to try to destroy all the other species in order to not die alone. Ben resolves this by fusing them with DNA from various species, saving them from extinction. Despite the fact they took a lot of place in the first season, I rather like the HightBreeds : they were interesting villains, an obvious reference to nazi, and the way Ben ended the conflict was rather original and better than if he had just defeated and destroyed them.

Then the Forever Knight, who were already present in the original show. A secret organisation who exists since the Medieval Age and deal with alien tech, they were portrayed in the original show as wanting to conquer the world. In Alien Force, however, it's revealed that their true objective was to find a weapon powerful enough to destroy a dragon they found long time ago (actually an alien) who they believed dangerous. Though I like the fact the scenarists intend to give them a more original and less manichean purpose, I don't like very much their explanation for this change, as they said the group met in the original show was actually a splintered group. It doesn't sound convincing to my opinion. And I regret too that the Forever Knight were reduced to so minor villains : while they were the main antagonist of a whole season in the origina show, in Alien Force they had very few appareance comparing to the HightBreeds, and were often portrayed as a minor treath. This saddens me a little, because I feel like it would have been interesting to develop them even more. To my opinion, they have enough potential to be a true menace, and the fact they are human change a little from Ben always facing aliens.

Now we come to the big part : Ben's archennemy, Vilgax.
The most iconic of Ben's nemesis even since the serie started, Vilgax is a vicious, powerful alien conqueror known as the most dangerous being in the galaxy. His appearance was based on Chtullu from Lovecraft, giving him a hulky body, claws and a tentacles beard. Since his first appearance, he has always chased Ben in order to get the Omnitrix and use it to create an army of shapeshifting drones able to conquer any planet. While he was a rather stereotypical and undevelopped villain, Vilgax was pretty cool, with a impressive design and a creepy voice, as well as incredible physical prowess, able to outmacht Ben's alien forms easily most of the time.
I always considered Vilgax as a crucial character of the show, and I was really hoping to see him back in Alien Force. Due to the HightBreeds' place, he was at first absent in most of the serie, but was eventually brought back in season 3 as the main antagonist.
Now, I will have to be honest : they changed him a lot. In both good and bad senses.
Sadly, his design, voice and look aren't as impressive as they were in the original show : while he retains his squid-like aspect, he's slightly less hulky, his mouth is visible again while it was hid by a mask in most of the origina show, and his armor has less dark colours. His voice, too, lacks the creepy tone of the original incarnation.
On the other hand, there is some improvement concerning his abilities. In the original show, he had no really special powers, just incredible physical abilites and the power to increase his own strenghts. In Alien Force, he gained various new powers by defeating the champions from 10 planets and absorbing their powers. This include flight, laser vision, cyclone breath (probably why they had to make his mouth visible again), a giant sword... To my opinion, this make him more interesting to fight, as he no more use just pure strenght.
Now, I admit, one problem is that now, Ben was able to take him down twice in the season (though not easily), while in the original show, he was hardly even able to hurt him and usually only won thanks to external help. It's rather logical, considering Ben has improved too and is now able to match him, but it kinda ruins what make the original Vilgax creepy. On the other hand, in the season final, Vilgax become to my opinion better : he is seen in the dark when the episode starts, making him quite more creepy. He is able to take the Omnitrix from Ben for the first time, eventually creating his army until Ben stops him. And, at the very end, he reveals his "true" form, turning into a giant-squid like monster who almost swallowed Ben... wow. To my opinion, this give him back at least part of the awesomeness he had. I know it's quite classic to see a villain turn into a giant monster, but I didn't see it coming with him. Now, if he re-appear, I hope they will improve him again...
One point who was despicted by the fan about this Vilgax is that he seems less evil, wich I disagree. There are mainly two arguments to say this : first, in his comeback episode, Vilgax follow a "Galactic Code of Conduct" when he conquer planets. My opinion is that it's quite obvious he does this because it's in his advantage. According to Dwayne McDuffie, following it allowed him to conquer several worlds in a short amont of time with few effort. So it was pretty much logical he followed it. And after this, he never followed it again, proving that he did so just because it fitted him. He's just acting smarter than before, that's all.
The other argument is concerning one episode, "Ghost Town". In this episode, Vilgax breaks through the jail of Ghostfreak, one of Ben's former alien forms who escaped from the Omnitrix and became a villain. He offers him to free him, in exchange of a secret about the Omnitrix. Though Ghostfreak accepts, he quickly betrays Vilgax by enslaving his homeworld. After vainly trying to stop the invasion himself, Vilgax reluctantly asks for Ben's help. The point is that in one scene, Vilgax is seen saving a little girl of his species from Ghostfreak's slaves, and even showing kinda tenderness toward the child. Most fans criticized this, saying this turned Vilgax into a punk when he was supposed to be an evil, mercyless warlord. Well, I have a few thing to say about that.
Yes, I admit, this show Vilgax may have a softer side. But seriously, is that so bad, even for him ? I mean, to me it sounds kinda more realistic : the world isn't black and white. Sure Vilgax is cruel and vicious, but why wouldn't he have some concern about his own species ?
Second, for telling it turns him into a punk, I remember you IT HAPPEN ONLY ONCE ! If it had happened all the time, okay, it would have ruined the character. But this was the only time Vilgax shew a softer side. In his other appearances... he absorbed powers from ten powerful aliens, leaving them weakened and older. He cruelly smashed Chromastone in "The Secret of Chromastone" for a simple crystal, not caring if it would stop the resurrection of a world. He threw away Azmuth in Primus when the old alien refused to tell him how the Omnitrix worked. He double-crossed his own allie Albedo and attempted to cause his own ship to crash on Ben's hometown in order to destroy it. He even threatened his own loyal servant Psyphon when the lackey made an unintentionally irritating comment on his defeats against Ben. Seriously, if all of this doesn't proves Vilgax is still evil despite having concern for his people... then those who keep denying it are either stupid or stubborn.

Now that we saw the three main villains, let's talk a little about the other recurring villains who appears.
Unlike the original serie, Alien introduced very few new villains : for most of the first two season, Ben, Gwen and Kevin fought either the HightBreeds, the Forever Knights, or character who were at first thought to be evil and then became either neutral (the Alien Dragon, Verdonna) or allies (Helen, Manny and Alan). Only three other recurring villains were introduced in these seasons, though a few other were added in season 3. Some old villains were also brought back.

I will start with the old ones :

We have some minor villains from the original serie, such as aliens bounty hunters/criminal like Vulkanus and Kraab, who are for most not changed, though Vulkanus has become a little baby-like alien in a big mechanical suit when he was seemingly truly muscular in the original show. Guess he was reduced like that due to a disease or something like that.

Most notable, Doctor Animo, the third most recurring villain of the original show, was brought back in one episode. Originally, he was, as I already said, a parody of the typical mad scientist. He used various machines and genetical experiments to turn animals into giant monsters. He can additionnally control animals. In Alien Force, he has become a dictator in the Null Void, using his powers to control the Null Void animals guardians and use them as his minions. I don't have much to say about him : I kinda miss the more parodic version of him, but to my opinion, it was still good to have him back a little.

Also, we have Hex and Charmcaster, who were actually more Gwen's ennemies than Ben's. Hex is a master magician, and Charmcaster is his niece and seemingly apprentice. They both played a key role in Gwen's development of magic powers, as it was by using Hex's talismans and staff Gwen shew magic abilities for the first time, and by stealing Charmcaster's book she learns how to use magic. While Hex was the most powerful of the two, he only had few appearances so far in both series and didn't changed very much, so I'll center more on his niece.
In the original show, Charmcaster was using mainly a bag where she could pull various spells from, including throwing blades, bombs and small clay animals. She also used various spells. In Alien Force, her outfit and haircut changed, and she no longer uses her bag, relying instead on her spells and mana-based powers like Gwen. Her clay animals are still present, but are now tall rock golem-like creatures. She is also, to my opinion, more vicious and arrogant than before, though she already was mean in the original show.
Now, concerning her new look, it's a matter of opinion about liking it or not. I personally like both her original outfit and her new one: none of the two is really bad to my opinion. I miss her bag a little, but the use of mana isn't so bad. And she still uses spells and golem, so it's okay to me. What I'm really waiting for is her episode origin, which was confirmed to arrive in Ultimate Alien and will show more about her relationship with Hex. I hope it'll be interesting…

Now, let's talk about the new recurring villains.

First we have Michael "Mike" Morningstar, who was introduced at the beginning of season 1. Mike was originally a Plumber's kid with vampire-like powers, able to drain life force from people thanks to small leech-like mouth on his hands. He had preferences for schoolgirls, as he was good-looking and so could easily attract them, and then turned them into zombie slave who searched energy to feed him. In his first appearance, he attempted to drain Gwen's energy, but she eventually drained it back, and his zombie girls turned against him, leaving him weakened with a zombified face. His powers eventually came back, stronger even than before, and he came back, renaming himself "Darkstar". He wears a metallic mask to hide his now horrific face, very much like Doctor Doom. His plans resolve usually around getting revenge against Ben, Gwen and Kevin, feeding himself with energy or restoring his original face. He briefly helped Ben's team against the HightBreed invasion in season 2 final.
I personally like this villain: he's an interesting add to Ben 10's rogue gallery, and (I hope no one will mock me for that), honestly, the episode where he appeared really creeped me out. Few villains in Ben 10 are creepy to me like that.

Then here is one of my favorites, Albedo. Originally the brillant assistant of Azmuth, the creator of the Omnitrix, Albedo intended to create his own Omnitrix, as he didn't trust Ben with being in charge of the universe. However, his Omnitrix had defect, and cause him permanently to be transformed into a clone of Ben (later with reversed colors), with the same habits, including a craving for Chilly Fries, wich became a running gag in the show. He now wants to get Ben's Omnitrix for himself in order to turn back to his original form. He is also the one who completed the Ultimatrix, an improved version of the Omnitrix Ben gains at the end of the serie after the Omnitrix was destroyed.
Albedo was an amazing villain to my opinion: his origin as an evil twin of Ben is pretty original, and he's both a very competent villain and a funny character. The only thing I regret with him is that so far, we only saw him twice. Hope he'll come back more in Ultimate Alien.

Finally, the Vreedle Brothers. Introduced in season 3, the Vreedles are a duo of stupid alien bounty hunters (and I'm still gentle by saying they're just stupid) who was occasionally seen. They proved to be amongst Ben's most ridiculous and weakest enemies, even dumber than they already looks: Gwen was once able to distract them in the middle of a fight with a bubblewrap. As revealed later, their parents actually did them with clonage kits, but the kits were out of date, wich explains a lot of things. As a result, there are actually several duos of Vreedles, causing them to always come back despite being often killed. Tough they only appeared three times so far, it looks like they'll come back and be killed again as a running gag, much like Kenny in South Park or Waspinator in Beast Wars. Though I disliked them at first, this would make them really fun as a comic relief…

To conclude, this show was to my opinion very good, at least as much as the original. However, of course, I have a few criticisms.
First, I will admit there are some elements I wished they explain more about. This includes mainly Ghostfreak's return and Kevin's past, though I still hope that for the latter, we still have something to learn. But for Ghostfreak for exemple, I think they should have at least showed a flashback about how he escape from the Omnitrix between the two series, or something like that.
Second, as someone notice: Kevin and Gwen are usually to easily beat up. I know the serie is centered on Ben, but still I feel like his friends should have some fight where they aren't beat up. They deserve some episodes of their own too... I can undestand they cannot match Vilgax, who's after all one of Ben's most powerful ennemies, but for exemple Darkstar or the Techadons, I would like it better if they win more often...
Third, as much as I hate to admit it, most of character's design aren't as good at they were in the original show. It's still decent for most however, and I care more about good plots and characters development.

So, guess I should give this show a not... let's say 8/10
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Comments: 56

Jay10-000 [2019-03-20 19:59:21 +0000 UTC]

This response is late, but I'm glad someone managed to take the time and see the good in Alien Force (this coming from someone who grew up with it and had mixed feelings at best towards it).

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Darinas In reply to Jay10-000 [2019-03-21 01:08:05 +0000 UTC]

Thanks^^

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Jay10-000 In reply to Darinas [2019-03-21 12:15:42 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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TheSuperZ [2014-04-20 22:56:11 +0000 UTC]

I thought this was pretty good. The only thing I think you missed were the new supporting characters like Julie or Paradox. Aside from that I think this was good.

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Darinas In reply to TheSuperZ [2014-04-21 09:24:04 +0000 UTC]

Well, now that I look back at it I think I should have been a bit more objective^^' but thanks. And yeah, sorry about forgetting those two.

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MyAnimeAlternative [2013-08-22 18:54:25 +0000 UTC]

Awesome essay! When Alien Force first came out here in the UK, it was a huge hit! Everyone thought it was way more epic than the original Ben 10. But obviously there were a few critics who thought Alien Force changed it, and hated how Kevin just randomly started to like Gwen even though they haven't seen each other for 5 years. In my opinion, I completely agree with you, Kevin was one of the most likely villains to become a good guy, especially after spending time in the Null Void. I also think the storylines are good and the villains are really suitable to the show.

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Darinas In reply to MyAnimeAlternative [2013-08-22 20:08:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, actually, this review is a bit old. By now, I have realized there were some actual mistakes I didn't notice... but overall, my opinion hasn't really changed, and Alien Force remains my favourite entry of the franchise^^ Glad to know there are some place where people actually agree with me.

Just curious, what do you think of Ultimate Alien and Omniverse ?

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-26 10:23:16 +0000 UTC]

Also CR said its actally based on a Comic called Dial H for Hero where a little kid changed into different heroes

also I do not like thise show because the characters are bland, the orignal version looked real and associated with them or they should make a spin off from Gwen Tennyson to be Lucky Girl to face agents magic fowes

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-26 15:22:49 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, that review is a bit dated by now; my opinion has evolved since then, and I do aknowledge Alien Force had flaws. But I stand by my point it's still my favourite over the Original Show and the atrocity that is Omniverse.

Yeah, I heard arguments like this a lot of time before. If "bland" mean "being actually smart, mature and not acting like a parody of generic shonen kid heroes", then I guess you could say they are bland. I do not share this definition of "bland" though, so you will forgive me if I disagree^^'

Lucky Girl was cool, but frankly, she is overrated by fans. I don't believe for a second a spin-off show based on her would work.

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-27 23:40:42 +0000 UTC]

True, but the original characters are still timeless characters if this had a new season would see them grown a little and have the same animation, but alien force and ultimate alien are crap CR from familiar faces did cover this up.

Also I did a review in race agents time. I know it was aim at kids to pronounced a lot if action figures, but still the original ben 10 will always be the best

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2023-02-10 14:28:12 +0000 UTC]

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-28 00:20:07 +0000 UTC]

Bah. You are obviously blinded by nostalgia. The Original Series has the best artstyle, and has the privilege to be the first Ben 10 show, but in the end, it doesn't deserve the pedestal it's given. Ben was an immature brat (granted, that was understandable considering his age, but they could have developped him over the course of the show) whose potentially interesting power was mostly wasted by him constantly going for a brutal approach, Gwen was an irritatingly perfect child (I still find the fact they made her better than Ben at using the Omnitrix STUPID), Vilgax was basically a generic evil overlord with no development and NONE of the potential the series had to create a coherent universe was fully exploited. It did the best job at balancing dark and humor (most of the time at least), and in the end it was a pretty good show, but it already had the seeds of Man of Action's crappy writing that revealed itself in their Marvel shows.

Do you REALLY think that just because a guy from That Guy With the Glasses said it, it's true?

Alien Force is by no mean perfect, but it did tries to be its own thing, and honestly, it was good for at least the first two seasons. Sure, the design were a bit flat compared to the original show, but otherwise, the show had the credit to make Ben FINALLY get mature and genuinely badass instead of the bratty kid from the original show. Also, the villain had a bit more fleshed out motivations. Season 3 started get thing bad.... and guess what ? This was because THEY TRIED TO BE MORE LIKE THE ORIGINAL SHOW!!! Of course the characters got "dumber", as CR said, because the writers tried to get them closer to their 10 YEARS OLD SELVES! So, yeah, the Original show kinda was Alien Force's downfall in a way.

Ultimate Alien essentially was a mixed bag; some episodes it could be great, others it could get really stupid. They obviously no longer had any idea where they were going. We still got some good bits, like Vilgax being badass again, Aggregor, or things like this, but that was it.

As for Omniverse.... well.... *sigh* the less I talk about that one, the better.

Overall, no Ben 10 show to date really gave me what I expected. I keep the hope that, when that abomination of Omniverse will be over, they will reboot the whole franchise like they did with Transformers, and we will FINALLY get a proprer coherent show where they will mix elements of all previous installment right.

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-28 00:36:07 +0000 UTC]

The thing brewers me in alien force is how did he take off the nitric? And hindus it upgrade into a new one I mean how

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-28 00:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Well, now we are starting to have a more interesting debate...

I never found that important for the writers to reveal why those things happened (I have a thing for the concept of a hero returning, so I was too in awe to bother about it), but when thinking about it again, yeah, it's sad they never bothered explaining why he stopped being a hero for a while. They could have used flashback to explain it over the course of season 1, for example. But I consider it a minor problem compared to... well, almost everything Omniverse did actually^^'

As for the Omnitrix upgrading, I agree they didn't explain it very well, but what I understood was that the Omnitrix needed to recalibrate due to Ben not using it for a long time and having age since then. It does make sense that the Omnitrix would reset itself on a new set of 10 after a while, if you think about it. Also, honestly it's not really the weirdest thing it ever did (what with randomly unlocking aliens or revealing a scanner function out of nowhere in the Original show).

By the way I checked CR's opinion on it. I don't like it; his analysis of the shows are pretty shallow, and make you feel like he only checked like two or three episodes randomly and made his opinion about it. I still wait for someone on That Guy With the Glasses to make an actually developped analysis of all those series.

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-28 09:08:08 +0000 UTC]

Yeah its like doing a new power rangers season except that they don't explane how they use the morphing grid or the morphers

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-28 10:15:32 +0000 UTC]

I don't know. A lot of seasons in Power Rangers didn't give clear explanations on a few things, and in some cases that didn't prevent them from being good (well... as good as Power Rangers can be, at least).

Honestly, I don't think it was NEEDED to explain why Ben removed the Omnitrix and why it upgraded. It's sad they didn't, but it wasn't needed. Five years had passed, a lot of things can happen. The one  thing I feel they should have explained instead would be why the Plumbers went from secret organization to space police. Now THAT's a thing I feel Alien Force really did wrong. But unlike so many whiny fanboys, I am willing to forgive it and like the show for what it is.

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-28 17:05:42 +0000 UTC]

I think man of action have to reboot it and make it more since and logical if its called Ben 10 returns and sees how he got the omitrix removed it would make sence

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-28 19:41:34 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I am more thinking about a reboot that would take back the series from its beginning and better mix the elements. I have tried doing that myself in a fanfic, partially with a friend (though he has given up when Omniverse came out). The idea would be to reimagine the character and mix the elements better. Like, you know, give Ben his mischevious side from the Original show while retaining the badassery and smart of the first two season in Alien Force. Or mix Kevin's psychotic tendencies with more antiheroic elements so him turning good would appear less out of nowhere. Things like that.

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-28 22:43:28 +0000 UTC]

Well that could work, if they scrap alien force and ultimate alien then call it Ben 10, Ben 10 new adventures, Ben 10 beyond omitrix.

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Darinas In reply to Dim432 [2013-11-28 23:06:08 +0000 UTC]

You misunderstood. I am not talking about scrapping the sequels; I am talking about fusing them with the Original Show to make a reboot. Like taking what was good in each show and combine them proprerly.

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Transformers0 In reply to Darinas [2021-10-12 02:54:10 +0000 UTC]

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Dim432 In reply to Darinas [2013-11-29 00:10:52 +0000 UTC]

Got it and I think cartoon network will see it and BAZING it will be a huge TV hit

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MyAnimeAlternative In reply to Darinas [2013-08-23 18:29:25 +0000 UTC]

In my opinion, Omniverse is ok, but it is very disappointing compared to the previous three series. The art style is hideous, Ben doesn't look like a teenager anymore, and the designs for Bellwood aren't even realistic anymore. I like Rook as a character, I actually do think it was a good idea having ONE partner for this series, as opposed to two, to see how Ben would react. I was unsure about Gwen and Kevin leaving at first, probably because they have been there for so long. But then I started to like Rook more, and seeing how the two get used to each other's character. Another thing I like about it is the flashbacks to 11 year old Ben. This informs us a little bit about what happened shortly after the original series. The main thing I HATE about Omniverse though is Ben and Julie breaking up through some stupid misunderstanding. Julie finally kissed Ben on the lips at the very end of the last Ultimate Alien episode, the two were finally a comfortable couple and had sorted out their problems throughout UA, now they decide to break them up. Another thing is that Ben has become immature, making it appear that he has done no growing up since Alien Force (eg showing off about saving the world "billions of times")


Ultimate Alien, is actually my favourite series of Ben 10. what I like about this series is that it shows us a lot about Kevin's background, and explains some of his paranoid behaviours in the original series. The two have matured a lot ever since the beginning of Alien Force, and they are now comfortable with being friends. What I didn't like about it was Ben and Julie arguing in a lot of episodes over things which need not be so important (eg the tennis match in Duped). There relationship problems get sorted by the end of the series (as I mentioned before she kisses him in the last episode) so they remain a couple (until Omniverse). I also like the Ultimate Alien Forms, because it was a unique way to make the aliens more interesting.

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Darinas In reply to MyAnimeAlternative [2013-08-24 10:14:04 +0000 UTC]

I see...

For the most part I agree with you, though I am not really so clement about Omniverse^^' I have tried to give the show a chance, but it just disappointed my expectations. Ben's character development have been completely abandonned in favour of amplifying his immaturity and flaws to the point he now seems like a parody of himself (what I really liked about the AUF era was that it made Ben fully badass, and I HATE idiot heroes). The artstyle, as you said, is horrible, especially some unnecessary changes like Alien X, Kevin, and my favourite alien, Big Chill.  The flashback actually were clever at first, and the first story arc with Malware was interesting (Malware is to my opinion the best villain the franchise had since quite a while: he has an actual origin, fleshed out motivations and good build-up), but his finale was rushed, completely incoherent and had one of the biggest deus ex machina I ever saw. Rook is a cool character I admit, but he tends to outshine Ben (though it got better on that point). Most villains and aliens are uncreative, overly goofy and impossible to take seriously. The show tends to over-do continuity nods without concern about weither they make sense or not (like featuring Exoskull, a FUTURE villain, as a present cameo) and without doing anything interesting with them (Yeaaaaah, Ben 10000 cameo.... wait, they aren't even gonna give him an actual episode or story arc ?!!). And of course, what is making me consider to give up completely on the show: the infamous break-up with Julie. Not only is this a blatant, shallow attempt to please the fanbase (Julie was quite unpopular amongst many fans), but the way they did it was convoluted, lazy and a complete waste of character, not to mention disrespectful toward the UA finale. Also, the so-called "perfect Omnitrix" has yet to show anything new compared to the Original Omnitrix and Ultimatrix, and seems so far to work even less than them.

Sorry if I sound a bit like a hater, I am just REALLY tired of the mess this show did. My opinion is, the continuity is so messed up at this point, they should just reboot the franchise as a whole.

As for Ultimate Alien...  well, I have mixed feelings about it. I think the main problem with this show is that, at this point, the writers weren't really sure anymore of what they wanted to do (unlike AF, who was intended to be darker and edgier, or Omniverse, who was intended to be goofier). As a result, the show would constantly switch between dark and goofy, sometimes going from one extreme to the other (like sometimes you'd get a dumb episode like Duped, others you'd get an overly dark one like Catching a Falling Star). Still overall, the show had some good concepts, like Aggregor (though I wish they had fleshed out his motivations a bit), developping Kevin's past and reason for his change (which some fans disliked, but I perfectly thought worked well) and of course fixing Vilgax's Villain decay from season 3 of AF by making him a big treath again. The Ultimate Aliens are either a silly gimmick to sell more toys or an interesting improvement, depending on who you ask. In my opinion, they actually managed to make them work, though some of them seemed a bit lazy (I still don't get how Ultimate Big Chill really is an improvement on the original Big Chill for exemple). I am still a bit sad they are gone with Omniverse. Over all, Ultimate Alien wasn't as good as AF to me, but it still managed to impress me on occasions, and gave a really good finale.

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spikerules64 [2013-02-19 00:26:16 +0000 UTC]

I fell in love with alien force when it first aired I loved how complex and mature ben gwen and kevin had gotten since the original series and I loved the compex plots

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 07:11:01 +0000 UTC]

Thanks^^' Well, to be fair, the show wasn't perfect, but I still see it as one of my favourite shows.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 14:03:51 +0000 UTC]

What about ultimate alien the only problem I had with ultimate alien was the relationship between ben and julie it just seems like almost every episode there in there either fighting breaking up or getting back together

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 16:12:43 +0000 UTC]

I intended to do a review of Ultimate Alien, but forgot about it and had no time. Sorry about this^^'

Well... honestly, Ultimate Alien is a mixed bag; there are stuff I like and others I don't. Season 1 was fairly decent, except for some misplaced fillers, one really bad episode ("Duped" to be specific) and some minor wasted plot elements. I do think however, Aggregor was a total badass that I wish they brought back instead of having DJW complaining he doesn't wear a shirt (no comment), and the Evil Kevin story arc was actually quite good. Also, the Andromeda Five all were awesome aliens with original concepts.
Season 2 was really bad at the start, with an excessive amount of fillers that were for most uninteresting, some wasted potential (I still wanna know more about Eunyce) and a lot of disappointing aliens (Eatle and Fasttrack especially, and to a minor extent Jury Rigg's in his original design). On the other hand, I did kinda like the Forever Knight story arc, Vilgax being turned into a credible villain, and the finale was overall very satisfying to my opinion (Hell, I actually RE-WATCHED it!).

To conclude, I'd say Ultimate Alien was in no way flawless, but it still had some decent and really enjoyable parts.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 16:40:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I hated duped too

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 18:07:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, worst episode in this series^^ It brought nothing to the plot, and was just a non-stop of unfunny jokes (not unlike "Blucik and Driba go to Mr Smoothie" actually...). But the worst part was that Ben acted like a complete idiot in this episode; anyone with half a brain would have sent the doubles in the reverse order, which would have actually be much funnier (just try imagine Ben acting MORE cynical and aggressive than Kevin to the point of shocking him, or Ben being overly nice to Julie.... the reactions of the characters would have been priceless^^). The only parts I liked in this episode were Rath as the beginning because... Well, it's Rath, do I need to say more? And to an extent, the Yaoi parody with Ben and Kevin.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 18:22:50 +0000 UTC]

It just seems like almost every episode of ultimate alien ben and julie are either fighting breaking up of getting back together

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 19:51:38 +0000 UTC]

Lol honestly that wasn't their biggest problem, but yeah. They probably were worried that a regular relationship might be boring. Also, the fact fans didn't like Julie for most might have helped.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 20:01:13 +0000 UTC]

Well I got nothing against julie but there arguements just really got annoying either breakup or stay together

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 21:10:27 +0000 UTC]

I guess so... not an expert at romance honestly.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 21:15:05 +0000 UTC]

My only other problem with ultimate alien is that they killed off peirce and dont even mention him or helen and manny ever again I wanted to see an episode in witch helen tries to get revenge on the forever knights and ben and his try to stop her from doing something she'll reget

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 21:28:23 +0000 UTC]

Lol, could you be the one who suggested this scenario in the Wild Mass Guess category of Omniverse on TvTrope?

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 21:31:50 +0000 UTC]

No it was just something that i've been thinking about since that episode aired

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 22:36:42 +0000 UTC]

Okay^^' cause someone had the same idea and suggested there might be an episode in Omniverse about that. Gosh, I wish Omniverse did that kind of episode instead of focusing on things such as retarded Galvan looking for a smoothies...

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-19 22:39:38 +0000 UTC]

I knew I could'nt be the only one to think of an episode like that an episode like that has so much potential

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-19 22:49:29 +0000 UTC]

Of course. As a matter I can think of many idea for great episodes that were never used. That's one thing I don't like in all four series: they all tend to use fillers to introduce new, uninteresting, lame villains or silly stories instead of taking advantage of them to flesh out the universe and the characters.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-21 15:11:42 +0000 UTC]

Well I don't realy mind filler much but it would have been nice to see agreggor again

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-21 15:24:17 +0000 UTC]

I don't mind fillers either, some of them actually are good (like Night of the Living Nightmare or How to Catch a Falling Star), but think about it; wouldn't you have rathered an episode about, I don't know, Ben visiting Eye Guy's planet instead of one about Ma Vreedle trying to create new children by cloning?

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-21 15:27:59 +0000 UTC]

Or an episode where ben and his team go to anodyne

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-21 15:46:34 +0000 UTC]

Exactly^^ Another topic that would have been actually cool.

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spikerules64 In reply to Darinas [2013-02-21 16:35:26 +0000 UTC]

I also would have liked to see ben and his team take on a real anodite villian this anodite villian being so powerfull that even verdona can't stop him

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Darinas In reply to spikerules64 [2013-02-21 17:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Well that's the problem with UA and AF if you think about it: there are a lot of alien species to use just with the Adonyte and the aliens in the Omnitrix, yet they are almost never used to create separate characters (the only time they did it was with Ship, Albedo, Simian and the Plumber Helpers). Like take this episode with those cyclop guys who kidnapped the guy that spawned Ship; wouldn't this have been awesome if they had used Eye Guy's species instead of just generic cyclops? For all the things I dislike in Omniverse, they at least tried to use aliens from the Omnitrix for new characters (Looma, Blucik and Driba, Malware, Dr Psychobos...).

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Sephirath21000 [2012-09-19 04:59:03 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I never really Liked Season 3: Too many plotholes, too many animation errors, too much of Ben's arrogance (even to the point that his friends almost seemed like they would leave him in "Ghost Town"), and the fact that even though this series is supposed to be called Alien Force: we rarely see much of the "Force" in question: "Max Force" as Manny referred themselves as only managed to make appearances in just two episodes of the series. I mean I get it that they aren't the main characters but their status as friends should at least demand some more screen-time and character development; after these two episodes aside from Cooper: we don't see much of anything about the other four at all in Seasons 4 and 5 (I'm calling it that because there is NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN Alien Force AND Ultimate Alien IN ORDER TO CALL IT A SEPARATE SERIES ALTOGETHER!! I dare you, I double-dog-dare you to see anything that would give the man who created the DC Comic superhero Static Shock and the television series Justice League Unlimited any reason to call his own show by a different title!) aside from Alan losing his powers to an insane Kevin and Pierce getting killed by the Knights. (*Sarcastic Tone* What a way to really flesh out your cleverly-designed and interesting characters in a show, only to pointlessly kill them off without leaving behind any sort of meaningful emotional connection to them from the audience whatsoever. Clearly we are looking at true ingeniousness at work. So move aside Kamina and Cosmo the Seedrian; give some space for some real classy televised characters right here, for your own deaths are considered to be worthless when it comes to the pwoplw of Ben 10, I mean just look at your own deaths: [link] , [link] : Your deaths are pretty boring compared to the death of Pierce: Pierce, you were held back and shocked to death by the Forever Knights only to have your death scene be glossed over halfway through your final scream and cutting to the next scene of the episode leaving your death to be a humongous question to most of the fans: a blunt 74 seconds long was your death. And immediately afterwards no one: the Knights, Bens' Team, or even Max make mention of this tragedy whatsoever. I think I've read somewhere that describes your situation Pierce and... AHA! Here it is: what your death was in all our hearts amounted to: [link] ) I have more reasons why I hate the Ben 10 Genre at this point in time, and they all start with how they managed to fuck shit up in season 3 of Alien Force.

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Darinas In reply to Sephirath21000 [2012-09-19 09:26:55 +0000 UTC]

Calm down, this review includes Alien Force only, not Ultimate Alien (and just because there are no difference between the two won't change that); I will do a review for Ultimate Alien if I have time, though I doubt it.

As for season 3 of AF, I agree that it was seriously inferior in quality compared to the first two seasons, though I blame this on the fans who panned the show and asked it to be more like the original show. But I still think both AF and UA had some great moments. They were not perfect, but there were good stuff as well. That's why I still don't hate the show. Though Omniverse might change that if they don't stop messing with some designs.

Now I agree with you that Pierce's death and Alan losing (temporary mind you) his powers were rather poorly handled, all I'm saying is you can't doom the whole show because of this.

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IHComicsHQ [2010-05-06 10:19:20 +0000 UTC]

oh man i like the way yu reviewed alien force truly seeing it as a show instead of a cry baby who wanted the original series i mean i haves um errors with AF like a lot of characters designs like Vilgax i mean to be honest i only like vilgax because he looked cool other than that he sucked lol but in AF he became more calculating and stuff oh and the part with saving the lil girl of his same race might have been a hint to why vilgax is the way he is.(i smell backstory hopefully or a whole episode devoted to how vilgax became this evil Conquerer)i also agree with wat yu said about kevin reforming and also i love his character except the fact that he doesnt absorb the element completely instead just creates a layer of the element,oh and my only real problem that i had with alien force was that the series really just was throwing itself at ben to save the group or sumthing i mean it actualy got to the point where kevin and gwen together couldnt stop any opponent until ben got there grant it i understand the omnitrix gives him a alien for every occasion but just seemed like they really skilled down the other chracters for ben to shine in my opinion but thats just my opinion also i didnt like alot of the new aliens designs like humongasaur and jetray just seem to simple and cheesy-a-design for my taste again being an artist i always look for wats coool and i dont think they should get rid of them just that the designs could have been coooler again just my idea of wats cool coming into play here yet and also i really miss the omnitrixx given the aliens suits to wear i mean must all of them be naked ultimate alien looks to be promising and again i to will have complaints on how the episode were cared but thats natural in fans all i hope for in ultimate alien is that i see more bout kevin's past and sum new interesting chracters and cooler designs as well as a forever knights come back of the year ..and oh yeah once again great review

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Darinas In reply to IHComicsHQ [2010-05-06 17:16:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot for your com^^

You're right, I forgot to mention it : Kevin and Gwen are too often easily beat up. They need some episodes where they win more... Sure the show is about Ben 10, but still... at least there are some episodes centered on them, like Times Heals or Vendetta...

For the alien looks, that's a matter of opinon. You're kinda right about Jetray and Humongousaure being a little cheesy-looking, but this didn't really bother me, as there were other aliens like Big Chill, Alien X or Goop who were cool (especially Big Chill). Humongousaure, for exemple, should have look more like a realistic combinaison of various dinosaur species. And Jetray... He looks more like a bat than a ray to me. They should have maden him more fish-like and show more of him swimming.
The Ultimate, safe maybe for Spider-monkey, are pretty cool to my opinion^^.
And Dwayne McDuffie said the Forever Knight would have a story arc soon...

Thanks again for you comment^^

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