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xmn-perez [2005-06-28 00:06:10 +0000 UTC]
This is great, You don't need to have a really complicated image to understand seach a simple idea, It'ss really basic.
I s simple but really really deep, you just have to see beyond the image, and look inside the message is transmiting.
It's not just a White/Black picture, is what it represents to each one, and to society.
To all who don't know how to see beyond, just try thinking a little more, and if you just don't understand, than get out of here, and keep living in fantasy land.
Big congrats on taking seach fantastic cocept
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FracturedVelvet [2004-04-22 06:19:32 +0000 UTC]
WHITE: seeing as how this is an actual photo one can only assume it is either over exposed, or a fraction of something far greater. If success is correlated with white, then it proves to share similar characteristics with failure. white>>reflects all colours, our eyes percieve it as white although like true black, it is in essence the abscence of colour. however pure white does not remain so, as white is easily tainted. with success comes fame::bliss::joy::>white....but eventually the white is stained. it can either destroy you or make you stronger. on the other hand if the white is only a fraction of the whole, then it could be the Whole that ultimately defeats you. With success comes failure...too much of either can shatter a life. -{ balance ]- Once again your subjective simplicity amazes me. utterly fantastic
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malcontent [2004-03-03 20:58:41 +0000 UTC]
Wow, I was actually thinking of doing something simmilar to this, I didn't 'cause I didnt think anyone would get it. But brilliant concept on both Failure and Succes. Great Work!
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agitation [2004-01-31 13:59:45 +0000 UTC]
Not everything is black and white.
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shardz [2003-12-05 23:03:16 +0000 UTC]
Not commented on this one yet.
I'm really liking these concepts which you are continually developing which provoke thought and discussion. Funny to think that a photo of nothing makes me think deeper than a photo of perfect composition and execution. As for what black white would symbolize, some people could link it to race, some people could link it to the mood it inflicts. My brain hurts.
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Rahla [2003-11-19 13:00:14 +0000 UTC]
I think death with out trying and not knowing if you would of have failure or success wouldbe more tragie.
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eric-f [2003-11-17 04:14:37 +0000 UTC]
It's not 'trendy I don't like!..
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bodhisattva-she [2003-10-29 14:10:28 +0000 UTC]
THESE TWO ARE THE MOST GENIOUS DEVIATIONS I'VE EVER SEEN THERE
I won't comment them, I can't even find appropriate words, just associative number in my mind.I admire with your work.
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centralplexis [2003-10-26 22:05:52 +0000 UTC]
cliche
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eosis In reply to centralplexis [2003-10-27 00:59:18 +0000 UTC]
Please set all social norms of 'cliche' and 'trite' messages. Seriously, think about this image. People are too numb, they don't THINK.
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eosis In reply to centralplexis [2003-10-27 03:24:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't recall seeing a 2 photo series in this manner. And this isn't just a spin off of some cliche I'm obviously unaware of. There is a DIRECT, OBVIOUS parallel in principle to some very heavy social norms in society, and EVERY example is represented in those who came to the image and were confused, casted it off, or just dismissed it as something cliche... It represents a major problem. The principle foundations of what makes While and Black what they are also directly translate into these problems, BY PRINCIPLE. Most just fail to see it, thus validating the message expressing. That this problem is SO easy to understand and consider, yet people seem to cast it off, or get overly confused and misinterpret the problem behind it. It's quite a deep little series actually. It came from a huge convo I had in philosophy.
I took these knowing that not many WOULD understand this, that was part of the artistic expression behind it. I can't give away what it directly represents because that'd defeat the purpose of the series. It is promoting thought, and that is part of the message. This is FAR beyond petty cliches and repetitions defined in social norms...this is a VALID problem it's expressing. Look beyond the surface of this, it takes a good deal of thinking to understand it. ;/
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sphish [2003-10-26 06:39:31 +0000 UTC]
Also, all of this information only makes sense to certain people because we are on the same level of awareness. is this so? is this why parents and little children dont understand our art?
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sphish [2003-10-26 06:30:22 +0000 UTC]
Heres a few words related to the problem that made me think:
Quality
Balance
I said in my mind, "if there is too much x then (negative value) will happen and if there is too little x then (negative value) will happen.
does this make sense?
And then I thought, about this:
We only feel happiness when we elevate our median of balance. For example: if too much is the number 1 and too little is the number -1 and 0 is the balance the only time we feel happy is when our zero (middle) value raises to 1 and our excess to 2 and dearth to 0.
For example: You go camping in Somalia for 4 weeks. You live on caterpillars(-1x28daysx3times a day) and stale water(-1x28 daysx3timesa day). You return home and take a shower which would normally been a 0 but is now a +1.
A better example would be when you learn to do something that you couldnt do before.
Is elevation of awareness of postive and negative the only real happiness?
----all of this is kind of rambling, like my thoughts. I am just spewing stuff out at the moment and noe of this is set in stone in my mind.
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sphish [2003-10-26 06:01:14 +0000 UTC]
There HAS to be something that doesnt follow this idea of balance and excess.
breathing...no
love...maybe....
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vilestyle [2003-10-25 15:00:48 +0000 UTC]
is there anything with 3 poles out there?
or think about this as to be the 2 poles of chaos.
we need room to exist. the room of the stressfield between those poles.
where does hue come from? is it the same wonder that live is?
i remember transicΒ΄s journal about the cybernetic idea.
i wasnΒ΄t to fond of that idea but had to many unorganized ideas to write something that nails my thoughts.
basically i was tempted to write: " oblivion is the catalyst that shapes evolution out of chaos".
"oblivion" as ending of existance as of knowledge.
now i just take that jing-jang concept as backup.
hmm i better stop here and do something more reasonable instead with less reasoning involved lol.
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eosis In reply to iko [2003-10-25 18:34:54 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the lacking comment. Save that bs for other members. This place has too much of it. I don't know how you can seriously say that.
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iko In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 22:33:41 +0000 UTC]
sorry if i dont get this deep deep thing you're trying to express here.
im just saying what i think.
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juven [2003-10-25 13:00:11 +0000 UTC]
Nice idea. Your comments that go with it really get you thinking. Whether people like it or not, you cant say it isn't thought provoking.
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Greippi [2003-10-25 12:10:42 +0000 UTC]
To me these photos imply what people are currently demanded for.
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petemc [2003-10-25 11:17:33 +0000 UTC]
Very intresting
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eosis In reply to wodauk [2003-10-25 04:26:12 +0000 UTC]
exactly, this is a pretty universal concept. Too much of something most always is bad.
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wodauk In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 04:28:16 +0000 UTC]
not really, there are many things that you can't have enough of, and many things that too much is just not good
and you can also flip that whole thing over
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eosis In reply to wodauk [2003-10-25 04:30:46 +0000 UTC]
Basically this series is about managing what you have better. Learn to think about what it can do to you or others, and manage accordingly. About managing a quantative variable accordingly and modestly so that you don't harm yourself.
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eosis In reply to wodauk [2003-10-25 04:45:34 +0000 UTC]
There are many in this world that deny their intuition, they find no value in it. They chose reasoning over intuition. And there are those that deny reasoning and go with intuition. Like the images explain, too much or too much of too little of something are bad. You have to learn to manage what you experience accordingly.
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wodauk In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 04:50:12 +0000 UTC]
too much or too much of too little can be good OR bad.
what if people's intuition is to deny their intuition? is that intuition?
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eosis In reply to wodauk [2003-10-25 04:55:27 +0000 UTC]
That can't really work. It'd take reasoning to know to doubt your intuition because of the knowledge of cause and effect. With any knowledge that your intuition could be bad, that'd be reasoning. Intuition is about JUST FEELS right without considering if something is bad or good in a choice.
I can't find anything yet where TOO much of something is good. You have to think on the most extreme levels. Someone mentioned water to me, we can't have enough? Too much water intake is harmful, too much water would equal no land. excess is harmful.
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wodauk In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 05:02:13 +0000 UTC]
Well that steps into the word "perfect," doesn't it? If you think directly, there are things that you can never have enough of, like love and money. But if you think about the word "perfect," everything becomes indirect, or a chain. Too much money can do no harm directly, but if you take it further, you can say it makes you greedy, or get you involved in drugs, etc... Same with love. If you have too much love, directly, it's a wonderful thing. If you take THAT further, you can say that it could make you do crazy things, resulting you in a bad position.
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eosis In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 04:46:39 +0000 UTC]
Both reasoning and intuition have their places, both offer valuable insights. Intuition deals primal instincts, and reasoning deals with assessing a problem, thinking it out, weighing the cause and effect consequences and then deciding.
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wodauk In reply to eosis [2003-10-25 04:39:09 +0000 UTC]
but, what IS being "wise"...
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