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I hope that could help you

If you have any questions fell free to talk to me

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johnson78 [2011-09-06 15:08:15 +0000 UTC]

Hi
I am Christina!.so how are you! hope you are fine and in perfect condition of health.I went through your profile and i read it and i was interested in it ,if you don't mind i will like you to email me at my private address
(KRYCHISTINA@YAHOO.COM)i hope to hear from you soon,I will be waiting for your mail because i have something VERY important to tell you. Lots of love Christina.

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C-Hillman [2011-08-25 17:17:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! ^_^ I greatly appreciate it, for the most part this will probably be a big help. The only thing about it that this won't help with is the shading, or as you put it, "filling with the same tone". That drawing has every shade that the pencils I was using can produce, you can go no lighter if it is touching the paper at all and no darker even if you bear down to the point of punching right through the paper.

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Miynxe In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-28 14:52:54 +0000 UTC]

you could always try investing in a black color pencil. You can control the tones a bit, with cross hatching and such in a normal pencil though

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C-Hillman In reply to Miynxe [2011-08-30 23:14:34 +0000 UTC]

Quite frankly, I'm thinking about giving up drawing completely. My hands shake so badly anymore that I can hardly get anything decent down on paper. Had a request that I've been working on for a month or more and have spent more time erasing than drawing.

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Miynxe In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:38:07 +0000 UTC]

Ah i know how you feel. I'm going through a phase like that right now, where nothing i draw looks good to me, though others like it. Don't get ahead of yourself. Go to the basics. I recommend a program called 'structure of man' however that is a bit expensive. The site that got me on my road to where I am today is called Anatomyplz.com. Try drawing a rough skeleton then fleshing it out. Boxes and lines and who ever got anywhere by giving up? No one, that's who. None of us were born good artists. We have to roll up our sleeves and work until we're covered in muck. When I got serious about drawing only last October i was drawing stuff like this: [link] Now I've gotten to this level: [link] and I still have room to improve. Learn to love your art, and try hard. Hunt for tips and tricks, and strive for what you want. Put your eyes on the prize and keep them there. There's a little saying i heard once, here on deviantart. Art is 1% talent, 99% effort. We all have our flaws, some are just more than others.

Hang out with those who support you. Listen to any and all advice and criticism. Your art is beautiful the way it is. Look up tutorials, invite constructive criticism and ask yourself 'how can I improve?' take what people tell you to heart, study, and study hard. If you're still not happy, take a break from art, and let the drawing draw itself. Don't force it to take place. Keep on trying. Picasso, Monet, Pissaro, Michelangelo, Leonardo Davinci, and every other great artist ever to suck in air and blow it out was NOT born with a paint brush in hand. They had to work, discover their strengths, and keep at it. It took many of them decades to turn heads. Some of them had it easier, some of them had it harder.

The point is all us artists have been at the same point in art at least one time in our life. The difference is some of us feel that we can never get up there among the greats and we give up. Others shoot for the stars but suddenly right as they get close, the stars don't look so good anymore and they fall back to earth. The rest keep on going. They work the extra mile, they keep pulling themselves along, with each step their art becoming a bit more pleasing to the eye. They keep moving until their heart stops beating. Look at Pierre-Auguste Renoir. An amazing artist who kept painting despite having severe Rheumatoid Arthritis ravaging his body. He was paralyzed and his fingers were stiff. But he managed to hold a paint brush and work out master pieces.

So why do you want to give up? Because you don't like your art? Go ask an artist some time who you look up to. Ask them if they were always amazing. Our growth in art is like our growth in life. We start out as new born babies, when we draw our first picture. I don't know about you, but in my opinion fresh out of the womb babies ain't so pretty, just like the first picture. Then we grow a bit, and we start to crawl. Then once our legs are strong enough, we stand up and fall down again. As we keep doing this our legs get stronger and we can eventually walk without falling after a few steps. Then after that we can run. Then our bodies keep growing and we get more clever. Just think about it. You could be a little baby right now, just trying out your legs. When a baby falls does it cry? Yes. Does it try again and never give up until it can actually walk? Absolutely! Why stop when you just fall once or twice, when you could be so much more? Why? Why would you do that? The encouraging words and criticism of those around you are like your parents that hold you up, and call to you. They tell you to get back up again and try until you stop falling. Later in life we trip and scrape a knee or an elbow, but that doesn't stop us from keeping going. Then once you're a master, you're old and wise. You teach the younger artists little tidbits to help them along. They may listen, they may not, but your words will stay in their minds. Never give up. I guarantee that if you keep trying, you will come out triumphant. Trust me.


Also, if you somehow read this entire thing, write back telling me you did and i'll give you a llama xD

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Fayerin In reply to Miynxe [2011-08-31 01:55:09 +0000 UTC]

wwwow thank you for your help I'm just confused and couldn't help :S

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Miynxe In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-31 02:10:04 +0000 UTC]

haha giant text comment of giantness xD

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C-Hillman In reply to Miynxe [2011-08-31 01:54:31 +0000 UTC]

Somehow I doubt it. I used to be decent but as my hands shake worse and worse it get harder and harder to do anything that requires a steady hand. I have literally reached the point anymore that most days I can't even do a straight line with a ruler.

My whole body is failing me these last couple years, my hands shake uncontrollably, my eyes stay focused only with extreme effort, and I need a cane to get around. It isn't like I just don't like it, I literally can't do very well anymore.

Lol, I probably sounded like an old man there, but I'm only 28. Oh-well, that's life for you.

I didn't say I was giving up on art, but rather on the one aspect of it.

At least shaking hands don't keep me from writing (at least if I'm typing instead of actually using a pen/pencil), digital sculpting with Sculptris or some other physical crafts.
As I said in my journal:

"Well, I'm thinking of entering current contest Make me a Dragon contest

I had posted the following in the comments below the contest notification.

"Maybe I'll get the materials I need to finish the dragon I started a month or two ago. Right now it is basically just a skeleton but when finished it will have a 10-ft wingspan and a 4~5-ft body length. Though, so far all it it has is one wing, four legs, a spine and a skull.

My main worry is that since it is too large to take inside the house that a windstorm will catch the wings and slam it into the porch roof.

Materials used would be/are old wire clothes-hangers bent into shape and twisted together for a skeleton, duct-tape overlying that for a basic body-structure, and papier-mache for the actual muscle-tone and skin. After that it'll just need painting.

I had intended to make it a black-dragon, but you say use lots of colours? Would it hurt my chances of winning to make it mostly grays and black with red eyes rather than using brighter colours?"


"Change that last bit, I reread the instructions and noticed where I had skimmed over the theme itself. Does the "Lots an lots of colours" have to be on the dragon itself or can it be elsewhere in the scene, like say if the dragon is affixed to a base done up to look like a segment of landscape?""

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Miynxe In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 02:23:38 +0000 UTC]

Do you have a medical condition? And are you feeding yourself properly? Plenty of proteins, greens, fruits, ect.? I'm sorry for having you read that enormous wall of rant/speech/novel thar... D|

But still, whats to be gained from stopping even trying?

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C-Hillman In reply to Miynxe [2011-09-02 23:41:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, the problem is figuring out exactly what. The doc doesn't like to forward references from one specialist to another and the insurance won't approve specialist appointments unless the reference comes from her.

I get rather tired of hearing from them that my body is, in the words of the specialists I have seen so far, "weird", "odd", "abnormal", and/or "unusual". Oh-well, that's life for ya! >.<

The only thing to be gained is a lessening of the frustration of knowing that with each drawing I'm getting worse and taking longer just trying to get something recognizable.

This was the last decent drawing I managed and it was a couple months ago: [link]
If it is hard to see, this is the same one but with the background lightened in Photoshop: [link]

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Fayerin In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:18:41 +0000 UTC]

In this cases you should take a break and return next because sometimes when we are stressed we cant concentrait... so try doing someting diferent and then you can try draw again

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C-Hillman In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-31 01:23:45 +0000 UTC]

lol, I just realized I said the same thing twice to you.
Too bad it wasn't something more cheerful.

Believe me, I have tried. It just doesn't help. I'm only 28 but the way my hands shake you'd think I was 88.

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Fayerin In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:28:29 +0000 UTC]

no problem. well you cant give up because is with arder work drawing that we can improve

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C-Hillman In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-31 01:31:53 +0000 UTC]

I used to be decent, not great, but decent, now I can't even get a straight line with a ruler.
Maybe the doc will eventually figure out what is going on, if that happens perhaps something can be done about it, but as is... I don't improve with practice anymore, I get worse with practice.

Bah, I shouldn't be ranting to you, I just don't know what to say anymore.

Please forgive my bad manners.

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Fayerin In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:40:01 +0000 UTC]

no problem

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C-Hillman In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-31 01:55:05 +0000 UTC]

Have a good night! ^_^

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C-Hillman In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:28:16 +0000 UTC]

At least shaking hands don't keep me from writing (at least if I'm typing instead of actually using a pen/pencil), digital sculpting with Sculptris or some other physical crafts.
As I said in my journal:

"Well, I'm thinking of entering current contest Make me a Dragon contest

I had posted the following in the comments below the contest notification.
"Maybe I'll get the materials I need to finish the dragon I started a month or two ago. Right now it is basically just a skeleton but when finished it will have a 10-ft wingspan and a 4~5-ft body length. Though, so far all it it has is one wing, four legs, a spine and a skull.

My main worry is that since it is too large to take inside the house that a windstorm will catch the wings and slam it into the porch roof.

Materials used would be/are old wire clothes-hangers bent into shape and twisted together for a skeleton, duct-tape overlying that for a basic body-structure, and papier-mache for the actual muscle-tone and skin. After that it'll just need painting.

I had intended to make it a black-dragon, but you say use lots of colours? Would it hurt my chances of winning to make it mostly grays and black with red eyes rather than using brighter colours?
"

"Change that last bit, I reread the instructions and noticed where I had skimmed over the theme itself. Does the "Lots an lots of colours" have to be on the dragon itself or can it be elsewhere in the scene, like say if the dragon is affixed to a base done up to look like a segment of landscape?""

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Fayerin In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-25 19:26:29 +0000 UTC]

your welcome well i have not shading the whole body for that you could understand construction lines of the anatomy. if i just have painted everything you could not understand the links or where it begins and ends each part. When I had thought to do the correction in the first place to clarify the mistakes in the anatomy. I'm having difficulty in understanding your questions regarding the tones hmmm: S yes it's true with just a pencil can you get a variety of tones is we have control over the pencil ... I used to help HB and 4B and only accentuated the darker areas.
If you can clarify I thank you because English is not my strong point and I may be misinterpreting your question
Thank you

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C-Hillman In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-28 18:36:32 +0000 UTC]

I have colored pencils as well, but for black and white drawings all I have for a drawing pencil is a regular #2, the same as you would use for a test in public school.

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Fayerin In reply to C-Hillman [2011-08-31 01:13:42 +0000 UTC]

hmmm i see ... then its not bad at all you can obtain diferents scales of colour woith one pencil

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C-Hillman In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-31 01:21:43 +0000 UTC]

Any more my hands shake so badly that I'm thinking of giving up actual drawing completely... I've been working on this one request for for a bit over a month and I've spent more time erasing than I have drawing. Barely past the start on it... >.<

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Shattered-Earth [2011-08-25 13:42:05 +0000 UTC]

Great feet, and the tonal variation point is super good too xOx

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Fayerin In reply to Shattered-Earth [2011-08-25 14:08:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much *.*

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JillLenaD [2011-08-25 09:38:34 +0000 UTC]

Awesome correction! It's very detailed and useful.

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Fayerin In reply to JillLenaD [2011-08-25 12:10:25 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ^.^ !!! I'm really happy that you think that

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JillLenaD In reply to Fayerin [2011-08-26 02:49:55 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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amentrine [2011-08-25 09:33:02 +0000 UTC]

Great correction! I'll be taking a look at this more than once in the future.

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Fayerin In reply to amentrine [2011-08-25 12:12:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks !!!
Of corse fell free to watch every time you need help

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Torheit-Skadi [2011-08-25 08:46:47 +0000 UTC]

Wow, such a detailed correction! This is definitely helpful, not only for the original artist

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Fayerin In reply to Torheit-Skadi [2011-08-25 12:17:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much ^.^ I'm really happy to know that
I'm Glad to be useful for everyone I tried to focus all aspects that I found it necessary to analyze the correction and to understand better

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