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Despite the silly rant bellow, this deviation is meant to be humorous and just poke fun at a trend!
I guess you can say this is sort of a sequel of "To be Fed to the Dogs" though this has a more humorous tone to it (even tho I am not funny lol).
To quote this wonderful comment :
"To me it seems these canine artists don't take the time to study bears at all...[bears] are extremely intelligent and powerful animals, they can run faster than a race horse...A bear's life is simple. All they want to do is get fat over the year for hibernation season. They aren't savage beasts that just want to kill everything that moves.
I guess I just find this trend not only old and sad but weird. I mean, wolves being threatened by an enemy pack, human hunters, big stray dogs, hunting dogs, human construction, other wolves, a pack of coyotes, or even an unexplainable hoard of giant venomous snakes would be much more interesting (and more plausible) threat-plots than the "evil bear attacks!" one it's so overused oh my gosh.
Bears are not cuddly monks and they can be extremely dangerous but they are not demons that are seeking out the next wolf to brawl to the death with. Heck most real-life encounters with bears and wolves don't end with death or injury since both animals are too smart to waste precious energy and time on unnecessary injuries. Bears and wolves may happen to meet in the wild and have a bit of a growl fest but a fight to the death is just a silly idea to me. It might have been exciting when it was done scarcely in fantastical stories like Balto or Fox and the Hound (when I was a child) but now I just can't take it seriously. It always looks silly to me and makes me question just how much people even know about wolves and bears. Do people even know how dependent wolves are on numbers? That a bear and even a stag could easily kill a wolf that isn't careful or working with a pack? Or maybe, for pride's sake, they are facts that are purposely disregarded.
I also find the "it's fiction/semi-realistic!" excuse a very poor argument when it comes to those who defend this trend. Even fictional stories follow some sort of logic and reasoning behind even its most unbelievable situations (superpowers, super strength, the supernatural, magic, etc)
This turned into a rant and I don't know why...I'm not even feeling cross lol.
Anyways, I know why the trend is popular. And, keep in mind that I know people can do whatever they want and draw/write whatever they want. I just wanted to share my opinion on the trend!
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When overconfidence crosses over into stupidity. LOL love it.
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Hahaha XD I used to be more annoyed but now I just feel sorry for bears and how demonized they tend to be. It's ironic because people used to complain about how wolves were demonized so much in stories, then proceeded to either turn their noses to it happening to bears or deliberately doing it themselves on the regular haha
Oh well though lol now I'm just happy to see some nice bears from time to time here on DA and I'm really happy you enjoyed this silly thing! XD
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I actually saw this amateur video where a pack of wolves were feeding on some ungulate and they all ran when a grizzly bear came in. That’s right. The entire pack was run off by the bear and there was no fight or bloodshed. Just a “beat it” from the bear and the wolves conceded. Sorry wolfaboos, but wolves and bears don’t fight as readily as you like to believe it does
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Also, at least in The Fox and the Hound the bear lost due to it being on a fallen tree over a waterfall. And if Tod was on more stable ground, Vixey would’ve been widowed if that bear got in a very good blow as one swipe from the bear’s claws would’ve snapped Tod’s spine in half. Are the wolfaboos saying that a wolf would not face a similar fate in the form of severe internal damage?
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Considering that cougars can kill a lone wolf, no question a bear can easily do it. Panel 6 demonstrates this so accurately.
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Panel #5: What wolfaboo’s think wolves are.
Panel #6: What wolves really are.
Lol I love this so much.
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Hahaha!
And thank you! I'm really happy you like it hehe
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This us really stupid on the wolves part, Only fight a bear if you have a whole pack, Or if it bothers you
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Wolves don't even really fight bears irl because both wolves and bears know it's a dumb idea to try fighting each other. :/
Even with a pack, a bear is way too thick and powerful to cause mortal damage to, so at most a pack appearing can just make a bear go like "Well I don't feel like dealing with all of y'all: see ya!"
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Boy am I remembering how much I hate this sort of stuff.
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Dang, ikr? I was inspired to do this after seeing so many Tokota bear hunt things in my inbox as well as other canines vs bears art (with the bear always DYING) that I saw popping up in places. Really ticked me off.
And it's so hypocritical how the canine circle people used to howl to the moon about how wolves were demonized in stories and then they turn around and do the exact same thing to bears. :/
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There is no way a dog is going to bring down a bear. I'm not sure even a number of them could unless it was a hilariously massive swarm that could zerg rush it.
LOL yeah. Personally I don't think ANY animal should be demonized. But y'know, MUH MAJESTIKAL WOOFZ. Wish I knew where the wolf idolization started.
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Seriously! The most hilarious thing is when people have their doggos go for a bear's throat as if that's supposed to take them down.
And then it works.
It's just so comical and it's amazing how people take themselves seriously while they do this.
I agree no animal should be demonized but dang, none of them should be idolized either as "the best". You can have a favorite animal but don't worship them and pretend they're flawless and the best, strongest animal ever.
I think the wolf idolizing began with wolfaboos of the early 2000's: the people who grew up on movies like Balto and took it way too much to heart. I was active here on DA since 2009 and boy, the wolf idolizing was absolutely insane back then. It's tamer now I feel but still bad in some areas XD
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MUH DOGGOS R POWAERFUL. I think people don't know that the role of any bear hunting dogs was NOT to 1-hit KO the bear. Not even close.
I got my favorites, haha. A lot of them are not the most uber powerful either and I can appreciate their strengths and weaknesses. And you're right. A lot of seemingly "lesser" creatures have their own unique traits. If only people would realize that and not admire the "badass" animals (which are half of the time seen that way out of misconceptions).
Hmm....I do recall noticing QUITE a bit of it around that time and around 2010-2011. Largely because of my involvement in animal "MMO" games (which were just 3d chat rooms, like FeralHeart and the like).
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LOL XD Sooooo true oh my gosh
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I had a prehistoric full grown male Irish elk character at one point, and this wolf pup ran over and said they bit his throat and Insta killed him. I don't think it works like that xD
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LOL Wow XD That brings back memories hahaha
Also, the "bites throat, insta death" trend. Why? And I see it in art too. I see people draw wolves biting into bears' necks and it's like...do they know that a bear's neck is one of their most protected body parts? No wolf's fangs can penetrate all of that thick fur, fat, and muscle!
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^I love the wolf's face and his total determination is beautiful, as illogical as it is.
I also love your rant.
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Hahaha! Than you so much. The wolf's expression was really fun to do.
Thanks! I was a little hesitant to get it out at first but it was a relief to finally speak my opinion on this trend XD
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I'm all for education, but a fact? No fact, just a likely assumption maybe. Nature isn't always predictable.
As for fictional wolves and bears, I would strongly avoid comparing it to real life due to the fact that the wolves are more "character" with anthropomorphism. I feel that you might be taking cartoon fictional stories a little too seriously.
Hope you understand. XD
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After rereading this comment, I think you missed the point of the comic and what was written in the description.
also coming back to bring up the fact that the way things are portrayed in fiction do affect reality, such as how the movie Jaws, which portrayed sharks as demons of the ocean that will always 100% seek out and kill people no matter where they are in the water, lead to massive irrational ocean fear and shark hatred, as well as escalated shark slaughter.
So in reality, it's not so faulty to take fictional stories and trends at least a little seriously, because they actually have an impact on how people see things when patterns emerge. :/
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Oh wow! XD Of all people, I didn't think you'd stop by my gallery. I've seen a lot of your videos in the past, used to be very amused by your Alpha and Omega reviews.
Thank you also lol very happy you like this
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It always frustrates me whenever this conflict is used in stories. Seriously? I am so sick of people not using research, or common sense for that matter. A rather average sized canine against a bear over twice it's size? I don't think so.
seriously though i am i love with this picture
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Exactly why I love bears. Keep up the great work!
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So true, omg. It bothers me so much when wolf roleplayers take down an entire elk by themselves. Like what...?
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Which is why it was weird that a Deer roleplay I had went so realistically, because the buck I was fighting lost without any complaining (he had small antlers) and a doe was waiting for me.....
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I've heard that bears actually prefer sweets to meat. I heard an account from the actor who played the kid in Gentle Ben. He was TERRIFIED of the bear and was convinced it was going to eat him. The director tossed a steak and a box of doughnuts to the bear. The bear went head first for the doughnuts.
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Is there any way you might consider doing the bear comic in this style? It looks great!
Is it easier to draw, time-wise?
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Hmmmm it is quite easy to draw and fun, actually XD
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Awww thank you so much ;w;
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I approve. I love bears. They're the bad boys in the forest you don't mess with, and they do it alone and not in packs. But their hobbies also include goofing off, fishing, sleeping, long walks on the beach, sleeping, and lounging. And sleeping.
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Haha yes! Just a few things that make bears so awesome.
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I think a part of this reason why bears are held to suck an antagonistic part could be because of a popular anime called "Ginga Nagareboshi Gin". Young people these days love anime and canines and this classic mixes them both. In the anime, there are bears that terrorize humans and kill them in massive numbers. Somehow the guns the humans use are ineffective and it takes a large pack of dogs to take them down one by one. Maybe there were playing a bit upon Japanese mythology to justify the strength and fighting capabilities of the animals? I dunno. But I think Ginga Nagareboshi Gin as well as some other cartoons and movies like Fox and the Hound and others. Then again I think a lot of media does that with bears.
Another thing I want to rant on, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin seems to bolster their protagonist Gin to ridiculous levels. From puphood he is able to out-perform other dogs in combat, pick up new abilities that took the other dogs years to master in just minutes and almost never makes a bad decision. Originally the anime started off with a boy teaming up with Gin to take down the said demon bear, which is what I think the plot that should have been used. But that is my opinion.
Another piece of popular media is a game that antagonizes bears (and wolves actually) titled "The Long Dark." It is a survival game that leaves the player stranded in northern Canada during a worldwide geometrical disaster that brings about something that could be considered a second ice age. The aggressive of the bears and wolves are actually somewhat justified. The event that brought about the disaster also seems to have affected the animals and their behaviors making them more aggressive. The game even states this as you are loading it and acknowledges that the developers know wolves do not usually attack people (though they said nothing about bears).
Anyway sorry for the rant. Funny comic. I saw it a few days ago but I didn't get a chance to comment until now.
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Haha! You know, I grew up with Ginga Nagareboshi Gin and even when I was a kid, the way bears were treated in the anime bothered me. I don't see how no one else ever felt sorry for the bears or thought "Wait, weren't the bears there in the wilderness first? Why are they being treated like invaders to the dogs who went into the wilderness?)
I must agree with you about Gin and Gin/Daisuke (I think Daisuke was the boy's name, I could be wrong?) I thought it was a bit ridiculous how much of a "Mary-Sue" Gin became after leaving Daisuke and I found it unfair how he got to meet his father but his siblings and mother were just left in the dust to never see Riki. I think Gin and Daisuke remaining as a team to fight the demon bear together in their primes would have definitely made more sense and perhaps would have even made a better anime.
Now that game you mentioned I don't have much of an issue with; mostly because it doesn't only demonize one species and there is a reason why these animals have unusual amounts of aggression. I can respect that XD
Oh, no problem for the rant at all! Ranting can be quite relieving and I'm glad I could provide a place for such relief haha.
Thank you so much for the compliment! I'm also honored you returned to comment after seeing this already haha
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Ah so you know then the anime then! Sweet!
Yep. The boy's name was Daisuke. I agree. Gin did come pretty close to a Mary Sue if he somehow didn't cross into the territory. Now that you mention it I remember Gin is the only one who got to meet his dad and his siblings don't get any mention after Gin leaves them. Daisuke would need some serious writing to make sure he didn't become a Mary Sue (or Gary Stu, Gin and Daisuke are boys) but I think it would have been more possible for him if handled properly.
In Ginga Densetsu Weed, Gin's son Weed certainly crosses into the Mary Sue territory. He always saves the day, everyone agrees with him and like his dad he is quick to master new techniques that took older adult dogs ages to learn. What made me raise my eyebrows was when Weed spare the lives of two assassins who tried to kill him twice. After they left, the said pair were seen discussing another plot on how to kill Weed, so Jerome decides to kill the assassin's himself. Weed, however banishes Jerome for this and Jerome just accepts it. Not only this, after Weed beats the Big Bad "Hougen" into a bloody mess all of the dogs demand Hougen's execution for all the atrocities he committed and out of the reasonable fear that he would be too dangerous to kept alive. However, Weed scolds all of the dogs and spares Hougen anyway and everyone once again agrees with him, to which Hougen predictably shouts that he will make Weed regret showing mercy on him (before a lightning bolt strikes him down, killing him).
Really, that is just so stupid. Weed here berates his own allies for killing or wanting to kill unrepentant bad guys who are clearly a danger to himself and his pack. If somehow Gin isn't a Mary Sue, his son Weed certainly is by the Purity factor alone. Anyone with common sense will tell you caring more for the lives of your enemies than your own allies will get them to desert you if not outright betray you. Really, I hate incorruptible characters. The only way I can justify incorruptibility is if someone had been corrupted before but was redeemed and has to live with the mistakes of his past. And even then there are realistically temptations to revert back to old habits.
Well it doesn't really demonize any species but I see what you mean. I still don't know how the worldwide disaster affects the minds of the animals since the game is to this day still in alpha. On an interesting note, the full version is going to be featuring human survivors. Supposedly, depending on the person, they will present the most danger to you. Heck, you could be the villain if you choose that path and there are ways to tempt the player to take that route, such as stealing food to save yourself, possibly. We will have to see assuming the game gets out of alpha.
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