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even that I don't like India, this one completely goes to my gallery, so beautiful, I adore collages like this!!!
You rule, girl!!~***
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i'm not big India's fan myself, but you know, India
has a lot to offer. gosh, i really into collages, am i? 
thank u ..; ))
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you are! but that's not wrong ^^
good luck on them and you are welcome!
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thank u.! hope, i will make some great collages soon.^^
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Sorry about the double comment, deviantART is getting a bit silly today
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it happens to me too.
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Wow, you have improved a lot in the second one. The Chinese scrapbook is OK, but the Indian one is more realistic, it doesn't look so "digital". I love it
BTW, you could have used actual DevanΔgarΔ« ( ΰ€¦ΰ₯ΰ€΅ΰ€¨ΰ€Ύΰ€ΰ€°ΰ₯ ) script [link] , which IMHO is much prettier than "devanagarized" latin script.
I studied a bit of Sanskrit in 2005 and I still can read it!
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thank you so much. i like the second one much more too. 
u just gave me a great idea. i'm pretty sure, that i will use original script next time. i searched for examples, it looks really neat.
oh, really? i'm fascinated. i would like to be able to read something in Sanskrit too.
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Great, I'm glad you like the devanagari script. I think it's beautiful, aesthetically pleasant. And it's quite funny to read. In fact most old Sanskrit texts (about yoga, buddhism, hinduism, etc.) are sung rather than read. So you have to learn the words AND small melodies for the mantras / sutras / whatever. The traditional way to learn them is: the teacher sings them several times, then the pupils repeat as many times as needed, until everybody gets perfect or nearly perfect pronunciation and you can't hear any errors. I loved these "indian style" lectures, with no hurries
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wow, that's amazing.! i never heard about that. it sounds that's its hard to study like that? i mean, to repeat without any mistakes. but still, that's an awesome way to learn Sanskrit!! one great thing about knowing how to read Sanskrit would be to read about yoga, don't you think? 
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It's quite difficult, impressive, and a bit "hypnotic" after a few dozen repetitions. I was just learning something about a dead tongue for scientific purposes, but using the ancient learning methods the classroom sounded (and looked) like some kind of cult celebration
Our teacher (who lived in India for two decades) told us that this "perfect pronunciation" thing had religious roots: according to some beliefs if you don't recite prayers perfectly, they don't work at all
And the devanagari script was adopted later for writing. The language has a LONG oral tradition before being formally written, so pronunciation was extremely important from the very beginning.
Yes, in fact after the basics we started learning yoga sutras. Most original texts about yoga were written in Sanskrit, or at least the best copies we currently have are in that language.
It was a summer course at UIB (Universitat de les Illes Balears, University of the Balearic Islands) and I took it just for fun because I'm a telecommunications engineer and a computer scientist, but almost everybody else came from yoga centers, not from the University itself. They wanted to understand better the phrases they repeat thousands of times every day
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yes yes, i wanned to say, that all that pronunciation when a group of people says something together and loud sounds like some cult.
that magical thing about prayers is quite good for learning, don't u think?
so, you mean, that devanagari script was invented (written) a lot latter than pronunciation? wow.
so you were like a white crow there? i mean, not interest in those classes because interested in yoga?
anyways, thats IS a a great experience.
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It was very funny because the course was a special summer course and the campus was almost empty. I think we actually scared the security guards after repeating the same 3 sutras for an hour
Yes, in fact this happens with all languages. Humans naturally learn how to speak the language used in their community (i.e. sounds created out of practical necessity for communication) because it's useful to live with others in society and to develop culture. Then things get too complex to keep them in a purely verbal system, and somebody invents a writing system, or adopts an already existing one
Absolutely, a white crow. I wanted to learn a bit of Sanskrit because it has interesting properties for a computer scientist, and because there was a famous sanskritist in my family (Joan MascarΓ³ i FornΓ©s, who wrote the first translations to English of many Sanskrit originals). All the other attendants to the lectures just wanted to understand their yoga
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i know, i would be scared, if i would hear someone repeating prayers loud in unknown language for me. but still, interesting.
and what interesting properties does Sanskrit has for computer scientist? also, its great, that you keep traditions in your family and keep learning about Sanskrit, yoga and etc. because of that famous sanskritist in your family.
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Sanskrit is surprisingly systematic, more than most modern languages. Of course it has exceptions, but in general a written symbol is always pronounced using the same sounds, and it has the same (or closely related) meaning as a root, prefix, suffix, etc. Even the grammar is systematic: there is a famous one written by Panini (circa IV-VI century BC) that's formed by 3959 short formal rules which allow you to write perfect Sanskrit without mistakes, just by blindly applying the rules.
So, for computers Sanskrit is much easier than most languages. In English you cannot be totally sure about the pronunciation of a word until you've heard it, and you must know the meaning or you have to look it up in a dictionary. In Sanskrit knowing the basics automatically enables you to do a LOT of things. I think that's mostly because most modern languages have an extremely complex history of wars, commerce, and other interactions and interferences from other languages. But Sanskrit was an almost dead language only written by a small powerful elite for many centuries, so it remained "pure", or at much closer to the original version than other languages.
The teaching system in India is quite strange too. Do you know how they do it? Well, they have western schools there (british, etc.) but I'm talking about the traditional way: until they're 10-12 years old, they just memorize books. Word by word, perfectly. Whole books, the real thing, complete. Literature, maths, grammar, everything. But they just memorize it, the teachers do NOT explain anything to the pupils. They just check that the children can recite the books by heart. Then, in a few years the teachers explain them everything: they explain them how to use the multiplication tables, the grammar rules, they learn the meaning of poetry... everything. And they don't need to look at the books because everything is already in their brains, just like prayers. It must be a huge shock to suddenly understand everything! A true illumination
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wow, i'm surprised about that for computers Sanskrit is easier than other languages. that is something completely new for me.
and about those books. hehe, i would not be happy, if we had this teaching system at Lithuania.
sorry for late reply!
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Wow, you have improved a lot in the second one. The Chinese scrapbook is OK, but the Indian one is more realistic, it doesn't look so "digital". I love it
BTW, you could have used actual DevanΔgarΔ« ( ΰ€¦ΰ₯ΰ€΅ΰ€¨ΰ€Ύΰ€ΰ€°ΰ₯ ) script [link] , which IMHO is much prettier than "devanagarized" latin script.
I studied a bit of Sanskrit in 2005 and I still can read it!
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thank you!
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