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Published: 2018-03-30 18:18:34 +0000 UTC; Views: 2631; Favourites: 215; Downloads: 0
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Description After a while of sketching, I finished it!
Well...this turned out different than I planned in the beginning. I actually wanted to do it in the black-and-white-comic-inking-style-thing like in the sketch (sta.sh/0drsjwbumed ), but I guess I was a bit afraid of this style. Anyway, I worked with different shades.
I decided to add something dragon-like in the foreground, and (although I'm still not quite sure if it bothers me or not) the black circle in the corner, as a symbol of the moon turning black and sick/solar eclipse. I also made the white figures bigger to work with more details...but on the photo it seems a bit strange.
Edit: Because I guess the question will come again, the thing in his hand is supposed to be the Arkenstone, bleeding as a symbol of Thorin starting a war for it and the gold, forgetting his fellows. (like a torn out heart)
Ink, ink pen and a white ink pen, black frame added in Photoshop

Process: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o4DYt…
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FrerinHagsolb In reply to ??? [2018-05-10 19:47:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your kind words, Bekah!

I just made a short status update, that's why it also isn't visible on my page anymore. I'm really glad you like it, and thanks a lot for subscribing! I had a look at your channel, I'll watch your video for sure! The first sight looked very interesting, but at the moment I'm not able to watch the whole because in my head is total chaos (that's why it coud be my reply is grammatical nonesense XD). I'll do it tomorrow!

The measurement is about 27.5x41cm / 10.8x16.1inch. This was planned to do in ink from the beginning, coffee will be another project. I actually wanted do illustrate Durin, but maybe it will be something else....still thinking about it. At the moment I have hardly time for drawing and painting and I'm actually trying to finish my 'older' drawings until summer before starting a new project. But I hope to get time for the coffee thing in the summer holidays.

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Rebekah-Nappa In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-05-13 15:36:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh! Well, please understand those videos were made a long time ago. The only one I'm proud of is 'My Mindset' video. But don't feel any pressure to like/subscribe or comment. I don't really have plans to grow my Youtube channel.

Anyways, thank you for answering so quickly! I realize now your post about coffee did indeed mention Durin and not Thorin. Oopsie, silly me! *grumble*(More like silly Tolkien having to make dwarfs with similar names)*grumble*(Kili, Fili, Bifur, and Bofur)*grumble*



Finishing your old drawings is a satisfying process, I find. I just finished a drawing I left a year ago and am glad its done now. So I completely understand wanting to finish old projects.

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Rebekah-Nappa [2018-05-15 12:35:57 +0000 UTC]

'My Mindset' was the one I started watching and found it interesting, before I broke up. I now watched it whole! The way you worked with light and sound is very cool, you created a wonderful mood with that! Just wanted to say that.
Yeah, Tolkien's names....I'm quite good in remembering names, I would say, but when you see interviews where actors get confused whom they were actually playing... it is sure they're too similar sometimes. XD
Yes, I hope to get them finished...there are so many sketches or drawings I didn't finished or even began, and always when I see them I'm thinking: Damn, this is sad...
I don't want this happen to my current works, so I'll try my best.

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Rebekah-Nappa In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-05-15 15:41:27 +0000 UTC]

'My Mindset' is a personal project so it means a lot when people take the time to view it all and share their thoughts. Thank you. I know its not a perfect piece but I think its the best I could do at that time. I'm glad you like the lighting! I pulled an all-nighter to film the candlelight scene, it was a cool learning experience.

Have you ever listened to The Hobbit's audio book? I wonder if the narrator ever had trouble reading all the hobbit's name all at once. XD 

I'm cheering for you and sending wishes of success your way! You can do it!
     
And you know. . . perhaps the time taken to complete a project allows you to revisit just why you want to complete the piece. You seem like you put a lot of thought into your works of art, perhaps this chance to revisit these older projects gives you a chance to complete them with a greater skill level than you had beforehand. For me if I re-edited 'My Mindset' right now, it would be done better with parts cut up tighter and the visuals even clearer. And even if this isn't the case you can always use my mom's favorite excuse from Toy Story 2,

"You Can't Rush Art!"

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Rebekah-Nappa [2018-05-17 16:33:32 +0000 UTC]

I bet it was a good experience! When I look at my older drawings, I'm always thinking 'Oh, I was so proud of that one', and although it is sometimes very strange looking at it again, I still am, just because of the progress I made and what other ideas I have about it now. This is  how it always goes. It is also the same with those unfinished, older projects. I always (okay, not always, but mostly) need a lot of time for drawings or paintings, not only in the execution, but also in thinking about the idea. When I look at the old stuff, I wouldn't take the same paper and would work on it, but I would take the idea and develop it further. Actually, I still have a scene in Dale I wanted to illustrate in watercolour, the sketch lies still in my pile. This will be a project I want to restart the next time XD

Are you still doing little films? I just saw 'My Mindset' was uploaded 2y ago.

As for the audio book, no, I never listened to it! I just read the book in German (three-times, I guess) and in English (once or twice, I'm not quite sure), but I imagine the narrator getting confused with all the names at the moment (Ah, my imaginations...) Just thinking about the scene, when all the dwarves get captured by the spiders and Bilbo is left alone in Mirkwood, shouting all their names. (I once read this scene aloud in school, I kinda still know it by heart).

And thanks for the Toy Story scene, it just totally matches!

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Rebekah-Nappa In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-05-19 13:50:26 +0000 UTC]

You know, I always wonder when conversations get this long if I should just reply in a direct message rather than continue to build on this page. I hope you don't mind.

And yes, I can relate when looking at older, finished, projects in a fond way. It's interesting how you transfer an old, unfinished, project to new paper in order to 'develop it further'. I've never done that, probably because the majority of my artwork is not as original as yours is. Rather I work solely with reference art lately. I'm interested in this scene of Dale that you mention! I'll keep my eyes open whenever that one shows up.

As for films, sort of. My grandmother is celebrating her 90th birthday this year. We are throwing a rather large party for her and I have gathered a ton of footage from home videos (back when her kids were just born)) and want to edit a 'Happy birthday' video for her. I'm editing it now, over the weekend actually. It's nowhere near done and I don't know if it'll make its way to Youtube but it holds a special place in my heart. My grandmother and I are close.

Wow! You know, there are times I forget you know German. That's your first language, right? I've always been fascinated with the idea of being fluent in another language. My favorite poet, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, knew at least eight different languages and says that the German language is the most beautiful. I found that interesting.

You aren't missing much, honestly. Despite listening to the audio book at least 4 times, I find it monotonous. My family would usually listen to it when we would go on long car rides. But the narrator is a deep voiced man who sings the songs with the exact same tone each time and every character is the same voice. It gets kinda boring. On the positive side it helped the kids fall asleep on those long car rides!

Yep, you're welcome.

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Rebekah-Nappa [2018-05-20 11:06:59 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no worries! (I actually forgot this is still under the picture - but no problem! )

I don't know when I'll find time for Dale, but it's still waiting - it will follow somewhen!


But really nice! My brother also films a lot and edit his videos, mostly of our travels and beside the short video, he always making a 'family video' which is quite more personal and longer, and it's just for us. I think such personal projects are too precious for YouTube! I hope you'll get the video ready till her birthday, I'm sure it is a wonderful and personal present!


Yeah, German is my mother tongue, I'm learning English and French in school (though my French is...eh...not that good. I can read it and write it with a translator by my side, but that's all). But it's really interesting! Most people just say 'German is too difficult and harsh' or 'it sounds like someone is, well, heaving' or so. XD I wouldn't say that, but when I watched some guys trying to speak german, they were already half screaming XD But I guess pronouncing a foreign language strangely is totally normal (I don't want to see reactions to my English ) But it's really a nice thing when you can say you're speaking more than one language.


Haha, yeah, that's why I can't listen to audiobooks! Of course there are good ones, but after a time my concentration just drifts away... When somebody would ask me later what the book was about, I just could tell the half of important things, I guess.

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AnimalAsLeader [2018-04-15 10:37:35 +0000 UTC]

Hey there!
Impressing artwork in terms of concept! Thorin standing in between all the gold, people fighting because of the gold, the dragon swimming in the coins as if even though dead, he'S still not defeated ... it's great and the title fits really well. Even though you aimed for a comic style there are lots of cool details in there, for example the scale mail and the fur on his coat. The only thing that bothers me a little bit is his eye ... is it open or closed? Otherwise, the facial expression is pure gold! (no pun intended, of course )

The blood on the Arkenstone is a cool idea, it only adds to the meaning behind this image ... people killing each other because of greed. The symbolism is strong here, but I have a problem with the moon or sun in the background. First of all, I'm not sure what it means, and then it's drawn in a very minimalistic fashion, it's "just black", if you know what I mean. It looks a bit out of place, and the lack of a sky (like clouds or sth in the background) only makes it look like it's floating in a big nothingness. I think, you could go one of two ways: Either just leave the background blank and get rid of the moon, or add some clouds, and maybe even contures of the lonely mountain in the background.

Hope, this helps!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to AnimalAsLeader [2018-04-15 11:06:51 +0000 UTC]

Hey, thanks a lot for your feedback!
The funny thing is, that most guys ask if his eyes are open or closed. I intended to draw an open eye, but empty, like an eye of a statue, blind, so closed at the same time...I don't no if this makes sense to you what I'm talking about!
The eclipse was meant as a symbol of the overshadowing situation. But I have to admit, I also think it kinda seems out of place. I wanted to let it blank in the beginning, but it looked really empty then, and after seesaw I added it. The stupid thing with ink is, that you have actually no possibility to reverse it... But I have the recording, so I still know how it once looked like.
Thanks again!

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AnimalAsLeader In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-15 11:21:38 +0000 UTC]

I dont think a "statue-eye" would work, because the blood dripping from his hands destroys the impression of a statue ... I know it's hard to draw with ink, but I'd either go for a closed eye and a grim look on his face to imply internal struggle, or I'd go with an open eye, but with a stare like he was looking at something but not actually seeing.

As an advice: Don't be afraid to leave parts of your image blank. They can be rest spots for the eyes when the viewer is tired of too many details and the eye needs space that isn't as "cluttered". Empty space around your characters or in the corners is fine, because it doesn't draw your attention away from the actual focus of the picture.

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Nzurii [2018-04-11 20:28:15 +0000 UTC]

Aaaah damn it ! Ich will das auch so gut können    !!!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Nzurii [2018-04-12 19:12:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh...vielen Dank!!

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AzzouBK [2018-04-09 18:26:28 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I watched your video and I like your style so much, Good job !

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to AzzouBK [2018-04-09 18:39:49 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much, I'm really glad you liked it!

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AzzouBK In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-09 18:41:29 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome sir !

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DesenhoExperiment [2018-04-09 06:28:15 +0000 UTC]

Hello from the

So it appears we have in your hands a nice fan art of the Hobbit trilogy, it is an interesting choice to go for a black and white scheme, it would be hard to use colors and give the same impact that this particular art gives, Thorin (I hope this is the right name) holding the stone that is super important for his kingdom, but the stone pretty much bleeding on his hand is a clear sign that something is very wrong, for his eyes, I can’t really say if they are closed or simple complete white, in one he is pretty much bathing on his own thoughts and possible greed, on other he is so dominated by the “sickness” that his eyes now are devoid of emotions other than hate and greed, the details on his armor are great, the white silhouettes of six warrior ready for a conflict is good and there isn’t much to comment, for the floor of coins it makes sense that they  were simple drawing with just a few groups of circles here and there, it is ridiculous to try and draw every single coin, what matters are the effects that allow the floor to look like a floor of coins, and you did a good job, I especially enjoy the dragon’s tail that is partially showing, my only problem is that the stone Thorin is holding looks like just another rock in this style, or a dragon egg, it would be interesting to try to add small light lines to indicate the importance of the stone, but this is my only problem, (and the fact that I can’t see if his eyes are open and close but it works anyway), this art is fantastic.

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to DesenhoExperiment [2018-04-10 18:22:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot! Yep, it is Thorin! His eyes are open, but empty. I wanted to give him sort of stone like appearance/like a statue, away from alive. I agree with the stone, I wsn't quite satisfied and should have drawn it a bit different, I think, but with ink there isn't much possibility for changing it after it got on the paper, but I learned from this for the next time.

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Peace-In-Violence [2018-04-09 06:04:45 +0000 UTC]

looks great

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Peace-In-Violence [2018-04-09 15:28:17 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!^^

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Aya-Lunar [2018-04-06 20:43:05 +0000 UTC]

Awesome painting! I love the layers to this, the dragon emerging her and there from the gold, the fighting, Thorin standing there, his cape cloaking the frame. Looks awesome! So very well done! <3

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Aya-Lunar [2018-04-06 21:14:12 +0000 UTC]

Many thanks!

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MarieRaine [2018-04-06 12:51:04 +0000 UTC]

This is awesome and I love the video!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to MarieRaine [2018-04-06 18:09:45 +0000 UTC]

Merci beaucoup, Marie!

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alrun-art [2018-04-06 12:39:24 +0000 UTC]

wow, das ist echt beeindruckend was du drauf hast!   Super, dass du es auf Video aufgenommen hast!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to alrun-art [2018-04-06 18:21:00 +0000 UTC]

Vielen lieben Dank, es freut mich auch sehr, dass dir das Video gefällt! Es war nicht immer ganz einfach und hat mich zum Teil dann auch aufgehalten (Speicher voll, Akku alle, zu viel Sonne...), war für mich dann aber auch ziemlich interessant, mal meine 'Zeichengewohnheiten' mal zu sehen. Und ich bin insgesamt schneller fertig geworden, weil ich mehr am Stück arbeiten musste (sonst würde sich das über mehrere Tage noch hinwegziehen)... Wie gut das ist, muss ich mir noch überlegen.

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alrun-art In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-07 15:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Ah ja das kann ich mir gut vorstellen! Also hier hat sich das schnelle Arbeiten auf jeden Fall gelohnt!

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jennomat [2018-04-03 17:19:04 +0000 UTC]

Das ist echt toll geworden. Ich find gut, dass Du in Rüstung und Charakter mehr Details gezeichnet hast, als ursprünglich beabsichtigt, dadurch wird der Kontrast zu den flächigen Bereichen größer. Auch die weißen Silhouetten sind klasse geworden, schöne dynamische Bewegungen! Und ich mag die Sonnenfinsternis, dadurch bekommt das Ganze einen noch surrealeren, düsteren Touch.

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to jennomat [2018-04-06 19:20:11 +0000 UTC]

Dankesehr, das freut mich! Ich weiß natürlich nicht, wie ich es im Comicstil gemeistert hätte, aber ich war dann doch ganz froh mit mehreren Tonabstufungen zu arbeiten. Dafür verschiebt sich der anfangs geplante Stil auf ein anderes Bild. ^^

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jennomat In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-07 22:50:55 +0000 UTC]

Da bin ich schonmal auf das nächste Bild gespannt

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RandomRoosterARtz [2018-04-01 13:44:50 +0000 UTC]

Your love for Tolkien's work is so wonderful!

This has to be one of my most favorite so far for the detail and effort you have put into the finished product!

Your eclipse could have a bit more shading to add to the shadows around it, however, the rest is purely amazing!

The way you fill things in like the dripping blood from the Arkenstone activates the brain and tricks it into there being color there! Such a smooth and seamless transition from one line to the next that leaves your eyes wanting more.

Keep up the great work!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to RandomRoosterARtz [2018-04-01 14:52:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much, also for your status update about it, it means a lot to me!

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RandomRoosterARtz In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-01 18:24:01 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome!

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AntonKurbatov [2018-04-01 12:19:33 +0000 UTC]

Good composition! I like the silhouettes and contrast =]

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to AntonKurbatov [2018-04-01 13:16:56 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

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Myrieen [2018-03-31 18:06:01 +0000 UTC]

Great artwork
I like the details you added

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Myrieen [2018-03-31 20:30:54 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

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Darth-Marlan [2018-03-31 08:50:21 +0000 UTC]

This looks great

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Darth-Marlan [2018-03-31 09:14:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!

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Darth-Marlan In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-04-07 08:50:01 +0000 UTC]

So very welcome

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VITOGH [2018-03-31 08:39:55 +0000 UTC]

Oh, WOW, this is just amazing O_O I really like how you made the smaller figures in front, it gives this piece a great level of narrative meaning!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to VITOGH [2018-03-31 09:15:02 +0000 UTC]

Many thanks, I'm glad they do!

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Mellaril [2018-03-31 03:30:35 +0000 UTC]

Very interesting use of negative space and scale. I think the theme of lust-- for power and greed, embodied by precious objects-- is a running theme through Tolkien's works and make them just so great. The Arkenstone is a perfect example of that: vengeance and greed turning good people toward strife. 

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Mellaril [2018-03-31 09:14:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh yep, it is...just thinking about what happened to the Silmarils...
Thank you!

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ryothehuey [2018-03-30 23:48:08 +0000 UTC]

It reminds me of of dracula and the lore of how he became a vampire...that lack of color...the beauty of death and horrors of war in a frozen vacuum of monochrome hell...

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to ryothehuey [2018-03-31 09:12:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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ryothehuey In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-03-31 09:57:17 +0000 UTC]

Most welcome

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Panartias [2018-03-30 22:08:35 +0000 UTC]

Turned out great - well done!

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FrerinHagsolb In reply to Panartias [2018-03-31 09:12:13 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

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Panartias In reply to FrerinHagsolb [2018-03-31 11:05:14 +0000 UTC]

Welcome!  

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Sarkhazm [2018-03-30 21:04:37 +0000 UTC]

Very beautiful work! <3

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