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LilyHeart101 [2012-01-07 16:11:24 +0000 UTC]
Wow, cool crossover! I can see it! If you're on fanfiction, you could do it! Well done!
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-08 09:25:45 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I love the concept of Hellraiser and the Cenobites and I think that his story is so adaptable with Batman. I have a story written and a couple of pages drawn. This is something I could see myself doing, assuming Clive Barker, Dimension Pictures, and DC Comics don't come and shut me down. I think this is what I get for watching Hellraiser Revelations.lol
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-08 15:01:19 +0000 UTC]
Revelations?!! GAH! *boo hiss* I'll never watch that heap of junk! Dimension only made that film cos they never wanted to lose the rights to the HR franchise. Even Clive Barker himself said he had nothing to do with it. Grrrr.
Sorry about that. That film just boils my blood. Anyways, as for your crossover. Indeed, I can see it. I don't know why I didn't think of it before. I love super heroes and I love HR. It's the perfect match. Oh you shouldn't get Clive, Dimension and DC comics on your back at all. You should write it for fanfiction! I'd read and review. I'm on there and I know friends who'd love to very much read your story. If you do, good luck! Hope you do it. And you're welcome for the praise.
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-08 22:52:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, usually when I tell people I'm watching the new Hellraiser movie, the response I get is "they made ANOTHER one?" In my defense, I knew the film was bad but I had to watch it and see the train wreck for myself. Yeah you're not missing much. It was bad enough they didn't even have Doug Bradley but to have some guy I've never even heard of play Pinhead was excrustiating enough the story was just over all BORING!!! I just realized they're remaking Hellraiser aauuuggghhhh!!! I thought Hellraiser Inferno was bad!but I digress...
I can't blame you for the outrage,I probably will post it just because it was so much fun to create. I'll definatly let you know.
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-09 18:57:35 +0000 UTC]
Yeah guess you're right. Maybe its just worth seeing Revelations so you know how bad a train wreak it is. But I would still lose my nerve. I couldn't do it. For one I'd be yelling obscenities at the so called Pinhead. Gah. Suppose I'm not missing much; I have seen the trailer and I can't believe what I saw just by that a minute or so bunch of clips. They've turned a perfectly good franchise into a teen slasher film. It does look boring, yeah, and as for Doug's absence, yeah - that's one of the reasons I don't wanna see it. I hear they offered for him to come back, but he refused, saying he thought the story was rushed. Well, he was right. But HR without Doug Bradley is not HR at all. It shouldn't have been made. Period. Well, they say the actor who played Pinhead was actually quite good, it was better that they gave the role to an unknown, but still. It's not the same. Oh god, Inferno was bad yes, I remember it. And Hellworld, that's even worse. Yeah, I'm outraged pretty much. LOL. But yes, good luck with the comic here, and if you do write the story, let me know indeed. I shall read it avidly. You can count on it. I'm PinstyLover1983 on fanfic btw. Good luck!
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-10 07:41:19 +0000 UTC]
Not only did I watch Hellraiser Revelations, I bought the damn thing from my local Blockbuster. In my defense, I got it to complete my DVD collection. Even if something is that god awful I feel like as a collector I should have it just to say I have it, if that makes any sense at all?I actually liked Hellworld better than Inferno. At least Hellworld had Pinhead way more than Inferno did. They barely used him except to show the fact that the cop was going insane and we kinda already got that. I like the first 4 Hellraiser movies [yes, I liked Bloodlines!] 6,7,8, then 5 and Revelations at dead last. They actually filmed parts of Hell on Earth in my home state so I think thats why 3 is among my all time favs. I can't blame you for how you feel about what they did with the Hellraiser franchise, I felt the same way when they remade Friday the 13th. I actually want to explore the background of the Cenibites and coralate them to other supernatural characters like Buffy, Ghost Rider, Dr Strange, Ella from Hex something like that after I'm done with Batman. If you have any suggestions , I'm all ears.
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-10 20:30:26 +0000 UTC]
Oh wow. You actually bought Revelations as for part of your collection? Oh dear. Well, I understand what you mean. It's just so to say you've got the entire collection. I get it. Oh I didn't like Hellworld at all. It wasn't even Pinhead all the way through, merely hallucinations conjured up through the players being drugged. And it just didn't seem to make any sense. And Inferno was just as bad. The first three were absolute classics, and I loved Bloodline too. Though, I hated how evil Pinhead was. I can understand why he was so evil in HR3 but Bloodline, he shouldn't be. Sigh. Deader I actually don't mind, and Hellseeker was ok too, if for Kirsty's all too brief return. I plan to write one big epic alternative HR story concentrating on the later HRs and telling the story differently. Should be fun. Oh wow, they filmed HR3 near where you live? That's awesome. HR3 was my fave actually. But yeah, I just feel that HR should have been treated with a little more respect than they given it while making the films. They even turned down Clive Barker's original idea for Inferno apparently, one which involved Kirsty. Well that just sucks. Can't remember what it was about, but I can say hand on heart it was so much better than the boring police detective. And as for remakes there, I agree. I hate remakes. Oh so you want to actually explore more on the Cenobites in your comics and do more crossovers with comic book heroes? Excellent. That sounds wonderful. I'll be in geeky comic book hero heaven. LOL. Hmm, well at present I've no ideas, but a friend of mine on fanfiction is writing for my birthday in October a big epic Hellraiser and Superman crossover. I'm a big Superman fan as well as HR. Maybe that's an idea for you to consider? Good luck!
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-13 06:35:12 +0000 UTC]
The Man of Steel in the world of Hellraiser? Thats unique. Taking a character based in science fiction and placing him in the world of the supernatural can be tricky at times especially if that character is as powerful as Superman.I had the same problem with adding another character to the Hellraiser world originally. The Silver Surfer was my original idea simply because he's such a pure soul. He isn't as corruptable as most characters are, plus he's dealt with supernatural forces before like Mephisto and Blackheart. Ultimately, I figured he'd be too powerful and it wouldn't be as interesting.I'm glad I went with Batman. He's human and falible. No powers, he uses his brains to overcome evil. Also, It was easier to acess all other characters from the first 4 movies to add into the mix. I went back rewatched the first 4 movies and used Kirsty Cotton,Dr Channard, Uncle Frank, and others to add history and kinda give Batman context about the Cenebites to push the story along. The more I think about it, the more the Superman angle intrigues me. How do we weave the world of Krypton into the world of the Cenobites? Simple, trace Kryptons pre technology days to the time before Krypton's age of reason and play up the superstitious aspects of Kryptonians who worshipped Cenobites, namely Pinhead, as a deity. I think , I just figured out a way to to tie the stories together.
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-13 13:36:33 +0000 UTC]
Hi again. Well, it's simple really with the Superman/HR crossover. My friend is actually bringing the character of Darkseid into it. He tries to use the Cenobites to take on Superman. I don't know much about the plot, my friend is keeping it top super secret for my birthday, but trust me - my friend has the knack for making these things work. Though you're right; it is very hard to bring these incorruptible aliens who wouldn't be drawn to the box into the world of horror and supernatural.I've been trying for years to find a plausible storyline for a Superman/HR crossover but failing. I requested to my friend that for my next birthday fic, would it be possible for a Superman/HR crossover and he said yes, and immediately he came up with the Darkseid thing. But I guess this will work, since it's Darkseid. Your Batman idea though, works well. He is human, unlike many of the comic book heroes. I am planning to do an Incredible Hulk/HR crossover very soon if I can. I'm intrigued to the outcome of a showdown between Bruce/Hulk and Pinhead. LOL. I'll let you know how it all goes and when the stories are up. Indeed, they should be intriguing.
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-14 04:54:43 +0000 UTC]
I started writing down ideas last night and I think I hammered out a rough story of Superman / Hellraiser. I never would have thought to include Darkseid just because I figured Darkseids way too powerful. That sounds interesting enough though.If you can do it, more power too ya.Should be fun. Hulk/Hellraiser ,huh? That actually seems simpler than the Superman/ Hellraiser story. In my version, it would all culminate in an all out war between the Hulk and a pasty white ,leatherclad , Cenobite Hulk. I figured theres already a Red Hulk, Grey Hulk, and a Demo Hulk now we can have a cenobite Hulk and have destroy half the Marvel Universe. You have to tell me how yours is going?
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-14 12:10:24 +0000 UTC]
Wow, you found a way to write a Superman/HR story? Cool. I'd love to know what it's about. Yeah, funny thing is, I never thought of Darkseid either, and I was just in the middle of the last series of Smallville with Darkseid's entrance and such. Funny. But yes, it will work, I'm sure it will, even if Darkseid is powerful, but so are the Cenobites. Hmm. Indeed it should be fun. I'll let you know. Yep, Hulk/HR. It will only be a small one shot really, I'm not into Hulk much, but I remember watching the two films over the past decade and liking them so I figured I'd cross HR with maybe the Ang Lee one. That's a set up for HR if ever there was one. Wow, a Cenobite Hulk? That's awesome? What, like Pinhead would convert Bruce? That's interesting. Unless you mean Pinhead accumulates his gamma power and becomes a Hulk creature himself. Ha, that's a funny image. LOL. I never considered that for my ending for my story. I sort of believed Bruce would get away, but I guess it's not that easy to escape the Cenobites. Maybe a longer story is needed here. Good luck if you do yours. Hows my story doing? Well I haven't started it yet, I suffer from frequent writer's block, but I am going through all my ideas and writing them out. I'll let you know if I manage to write it. Thanks again.
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gagex07 In reply to LilyHeart101 [2012-01-15 05:26:04 +0000 UTC]
I guess when you're called Superman it kinda puts you into a class all by yourself. Tough but not impossible. As for the Hulk, Hulk is as strong as his mind will allow. Eve someone with Hulk's insane amount of gamma strenghth is nt imne to the foilables of man. It's more like Hulk went to Hell and and was confronted with a less savage more cerebral cenebite version of himself. Kinda like outta Hellraiser 3 only is a more darker side ofthe Hulk that has exsisted long in hs mind and has been brought to life by opening the box. When the Cenebite Hulk becomes too out of control, Pinhead must decide to help the green Hulk or watch Hell be destroyed. You'll get over writer's block soon, you've got way to many ideas going on for you not to get over it.
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LilyHeart101 In reply to gagex07 [2012-01-19 16:42:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I agree with you. Superman would be a hero not given to the pleasures of Hell, but someone like Hulk, yes. I love that idea of the Cenobittic Hulk. I told my friend about this, and already he's got an idea to go forth and write about it. As for my HR/Hulk fic, well I said my friend could have it. He's a much better action/adventure/horror writer than me. I'm sure it'll come out great. I still got writers block, but I think I'll get over it. I got tons of ideas yes, but writing them into stories is another thing entirely. I'll let you know how the HR/Hulk story goes with my friend.
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