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Description Full title: Robert Smith, of The Cure, aka Happy 20'th Birthday, Mandora, aka The Glorious Immortalization of Mr. Smith!!! (The last one was for derffie. Since I recently found out I'm blessed enough to have Mandy actually check my stupid ass dA, I had to send every pre finished note to him in code!!!)
Onward>>> It was Mandora's birthday yesterday, and I had to give her something nice. I've only known her a short time, but I really feel a close and intimate connection with her. We both LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVE music, and obviously her favourite band is The Cure. Only recently have I realized that she actually cares enough to show her friends the sculptures I've been making all these years. Every time she introduces me to someone, less than an hour will go by before they say: 'Oh, yeah, you're the guy who makes those little thingies, riiiiiiiiight???!!!! Man those are amazing!...' and so forth. Given this, I had to do something nice for her. I haven't seen or even spoken with her since I found out she got it (I wanted to give it to her personally but had to leave it with her friend) but she showed her dad and he has already expressed interest in helping promote them for me!!! Such triumph!!
On with the sculpture itself: This was a real milestone for me. It may not look as flashy as some of my other musicians, like Steve White ( : [link] ), Nivek Ogre ( [link] ), or my booooooooringly over-favourited Trent Reznor ( [link] ) but the real thing is much better, and it also served as a personal sculpting development for me: notice the wild, spiky-ass doo that Robert is famous for. Impossible to depict in an 8cm tall Fimo sculpt, you say? So did I! But I soon discovered a trick which consisted of dragging the tiny slabs of Fimo over my finger, hacking away at it and letting gravity naturally spread out the synthetic follicles around to impersonate a totally gnarly 80's goth hair doo. I usually like to take the time to get full, up close pictures of the guitar as well, but I was rushed and just couldn't wait any longer to give this to her. The head-stock actually has ULTRACURE written across the middle, while Schecter is labelled on the top. Two things I'm rather proud of. For curiousity's sake, Mr. Smith is seen with a Schecter Ultracure Signature Series guitar ( [link] ). I had to do extensive research to fully perfect this piece. I always do with my musicians. The inscription looks much better in real life. The photo didn't do it too much justice, but again, I couldn't wait to give it to her.

PS, sorry again for my bitterness on the Trent. If you love it, PLEASE FAVE IT! But look closer, it's really not my best. REALLY!

Happy 20th Birthday, Mandora.
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Comments: 115

futantshadow [2007-01-31 00:55:47 +0000 UTC]

nice detail on this one. i'm curious, what kind of clay do you use?

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hatredtheblack In reply to futantshadow [2007-01-31 06:04:37 +0000 UTC]

It's all Fimo and Sculpey. It's very simple stuff; just a precoloured, polymer based clay. I'm almost ashamed to admit, I get it all from the Michael's Craftstore. Hey, people seem to like it!
And it looks like you do too, so thank you very much!

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Red-Queen-Of-Hearts [2006-10-29 22:50:02 +0000 UTC]

omg, the hair, the hands, the attitude! Instant fav! I really like the extensive comments as well

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hatredtheblack In reply to Red-Queen-Of-Hearts [2006-10-29 23:55:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you thank you THANK YOU!
All the things you've mentioned are what I was going for.
SUCCESS!!!

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Red-Queen-Of-Hearts In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-30 00:03:22 +0000 UTC]

Yay!!! I really really love it It just reminds me of every time I've seen the Cure live I think he's going to start singing "a letter to elise" or sth like that!!

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hatredtheblack In reply to Red-Queen-Of-Hearts [2006-12-15 04:01:03 +0000 UTC]

Wow, you've seen The Cure? That'd be a cool show. I need to get into them more.

Sorry for the lateness of this and my other replies. I've had almost no time to go online like this lately.

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Red-Queen-Of-Hearts In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-12-18 15:48:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I've seen them twice and I would do it again and again and again They are one of my favourite bands ever!

Don't worry about the lateness

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Undead-Art [2006-10-14 14:17:25 +0000 UTC]

hehe I love this one is he crying wink wink......anyway what kind of clay do you sculpt in?

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hatredtheblack In reply to Undead-Art [2006-10-20 04:53:17 +0000 UTC]

I use two types of Polymer Clays called Fimo and Sculpey. Very basic stuff, I'm sure you've already heard of it.
Thanks a bunch, bro!

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Undead-Art In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-20 15:15:07 +0000 UTC]

Yea I've had people ask me if I use that stuff. Where do you buy it?

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hatredtheblack In reply to Undead-Art [2006-10-28 20:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Truthfully, I just buy it at Michael's. A lame resort, but it has everything I need.

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Undead-Art In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-28 20:47:30 +0000 UTC]

ahh ok cool!

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SpiritsOfTheNight [2006-08-06 12:26:30 +0000 UTC]

its great i love it, thanx for viewing my pics and telling me about yours. i love the cure and your work is exelent!!

and by the way, kissmeingreen, tainted love was by some chick but was only a flip-side (the extra track on a single) and soft cell made it famous. no offence but i cant believe people think that the cure sung tainted love, i mean they may have done it once at a concert or sumthing i dont know, but you are the second person that ive heard say that and i find it really offencive toward the cure, again no offence but i really feel strong about ppl getting really really good bands mixed up for not so good bands or even really shit bads.
once again i apologise for sounding really bitchy, but this is just how i feel

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hatredtheblack In reply to SpiritsOfTheNight [2006-08-07 05:26:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank a lot. I'm not too familiar with The Cure, but their Music is phenomenal and Robert Smith has such a beautiful voice. Thanks for the com and more importantly THANK YOU FOR THE FAVE!

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SpiritsOfTheNight In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-08-08 11:23:10 +0000 UTC]

thats ok, you work deserves favs!! its really good. its really hard to do real people rather than just still life. well done, well done in deed!

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hatredtheblack In reply to SpiritsOfTheNight [2006-08-12 17:22:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a ton, I'm glad you appreciate it that much.

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kissmeimgreen [2006-07-06 19:23:27 +0000 UTC]

Um, isn't The Cure that one hit wonder band that made that song "Tainted Love" ? (that Manson covered by the way)

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-07-30 07:06:22 +0000 UTC]

No, absolutely not. I can't remember the name of that band, but The Cure was a wild, progressive Goth Rock band of the 1980's. Great stuff. If you haven't heard them, check them out. They do a great song called Burn off of The Crow Soundtrack.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-07-30 15:40:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the clear up, I always was a little confused about that. I'll probably check em out soon cuz my uncle left his copy of that soundtrack at my house (along with his copy of Iron Maiden "Piece of Mind"

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-08-03 01:06:45 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yeah. The last thing I want happening is really good Musicians being mistaken for really bad ones. Not that the band who originally wrote Tainted Love is by any means bad, though. But The Cure is a LOT better.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-08-03 03:16:19 +0000 UTC]

I'll be sure to check it out, but first who else is on that soundtrack?

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-08-06 01:17:05 +0000 UTC]

We were talking about The Crow, right? Apart from it being one of the most fucking deadly, decently, bad assedly wickedest movies of all time, its even better soundtrack also has Dead Souls, an absolutely epic Joy Division cover by Nine Inch Nails, The Badge, a pre-Cowboys From Hell Pantera release, After the Flesh, a pulse pounding Industrial Sleaze Rock classic by My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult... Those are the ones that really stick out. It has some other amazing tracks which I can't quite place, only the bands that made them. Some of them are: Rollins Band, Medicine, The Violent Femmes... I think that's it for now. Check it out, it's absolutely classic.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-08-18 21:14:30 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I am a Pantera fan but I haven't heard of some of those bands, I guess I'll have to check it out soon.

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-08-19 04:06:37 +0000 UTC]

Ohh, The Badge is an OLD track, recorded before Cowboys From Hell was even thought of. This Soundtrack was an eclectic mix of The Underground. Pantera is quite different from most of them, though (I think) they fit perfectly amongst The Crow's mix of tunes.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-09-16 22:27:57 +0000 UTC]

Interesting, so it's different like how black sabbath's first album was more bluesy than than their other albums?

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-09-23 07:32:30 +0000 UTC]

No, it has the same Pantera sound, only quite mellow. Compare it to the last song on Vulgar Display of Power. (Can't quite think of it.)
But I'm not going to let your comment slide, because you've brought up a great and unusual comment!
Yes, Black Sabbath's first album had a strong Blues influence, as Tony Iommi was trained as a Blues Guitarist. Cool that you noticed that, too!

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-09-23 16:20:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, since I also listen to bands like Hendrix and Cream I thinks it's`really cool that for that first album it sounded like (as I like to call it) "Sinister blues"

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-09-24 23:36:02 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that's a great line! I'll have to start using that.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-09-30 22:24:12 +0000 UTC]

Sorry what line?

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-10-03 02:36:20 +0000 UTC]

'Sinister Blues'. It totally works. Like the term 'Goth Punk' it's a little inaccurate, but totally describes the genre.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-06 23:00:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah! Sorry, remeber I'm working on my Dad's computer so I can only acsess it when it's convinient for him. Sabbath's actually been referred to a lot of things actually they've been called "Sludge metal" and "Doom metal" as well as of course being referred to as "classic metal"

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-10-20 05:12:40 +0000 UTC]

Doom Metal takes it pretty far, but the tempo of the first album, namely Black Sabbath itself would certainly set foot to the dark and demonic melodies of Doom. Check out My Dying Bride if you've never heard of them. CLASSIC Doom Metal.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-21 23:52:33 +0000 UTC]

Were they from the late seventies (my Dying Bride)?

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-10-28 20:17:36 +0000 UTC]

No, formed most likely around the late 80's, then gathered their fame in the early 90's. LIke all Doom Metal, they're a lot more popular in Europe.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-10-28 20:56:52 +0000 UTC]

Are they German? because I did hear a few of their early tracks on allmusic.com

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-10-29 21:02:01 +0000 UTC]

No. By now their lineup has probably been disected and rearranged with all different creed, but they were originally formed in England. Their former keyboard player Martin Powell recently ended a few-year stint with Cradle of Filth (as Martin Fowl). I'd like to find out what Powell/Foul is up to now.
I wouldn't be surprised if he rejoined My Dying Bride.
If you want to check them out further, I would reccomend the album The Angel and the Dark River. I've not heard everything they have to offer, but that's their most ambitious album that I've ever come across.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-11-04 23:12:34 +0000 UTC]

Cool, I only asked as to if they were German or not because I did hear one track were it sounded like they were speaking a different language

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-11-05 01:56:00 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually used some sort of neat dead language in their lyrics. That would show how creatively dynamic they are.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-11-12 22:27:41 +0000 UTC]

i read some of their lyrics as well and man there's some great poetic pieces in that lot, like you said classic Doom metal and I honestly thought Evanescence wrote good poetic verses!

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-12-06 06:22:47 +0000 UTC]

They're very crytpic, yet very classical. I've heard their new album is great. Evanescance is a band that's never really done a whole lot for me. They're playing in Edmonton soon, I don't suppose I'll make it.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-12-09 03:46:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah they're playing on January 18th where I live (me is a B.C-ite )
Have you heard of Nightwish?

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-12-18 05:05:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh, of course. Nightwish is mainstream, nothing new to me at all. They wouldn't be bad to see, though I don't know what they'll be like now that Taarja is gone.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-12-23 00:33:58 +0000 UTC]

Kinda the same question that Sabbath fans asked when they found out Ozzy left, however he was replaced by Dio and with Geezer, Tony, Bill and Vinny made two of the best metal albums of all time

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hatredtheblack In reply to kissmeimgreen [2006-12-26 06:16:44 +0000 UTC]

I don't really relate to Black Sabbath with Dio. I LOVE the intro on The Mob Rules, but that doesn't speak much for Sabbath.
I'm just so in love with their debut album. I just LOOOOOVE its darkness.

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kissmeimgreen In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-12-26 21:18:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, at least you're not one of those "You listen to any Sabbath album without Ozzy on it YOU DIE!!" folks.
Granted Dio and Ozzy are completely different artists (In the lyrics department Dio focuses mostly on medieval stuff like Dragons, rainbows, and kings while Ozzy's stuff seems to focus on insanity and drugs.) but I consider "Heaven and Hell" to be one of Sabbath's best albums and Dio certainly made a huge mark on the band's history. (After all, Dio is WAY better than Tony Martin)

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fearmax [2006-05-24 00:07:12 +0000 UTC]

first off, freakin' love this and the cure!
but, it seems that on some of your sculptures you lengthen the chin/ jaw. that sort of makes it look more like a characature, which is kinda cool in itself
but if that isn't what you're going for, i'd say that would be the problem. it's mostly on the figures with their mouths open, and that's understandably hard to capture.
great job, and if you think i'm stupid for saying that, then just give me a digital slap! haha

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hatredtheblack In reply to fearmax [2006-05-26 21:09:58 +0000 UTC]

Of course not! Criticizm is always welcome. But this one in particular (I'm sure you're referring to Lucia, too. I'm fixing her up soon) his mouth really looked this way. Robert Smith has quite a large chin, but I did emphasize it more with the sculpt. Thanks for the compliments!

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fearmax In reply to hatredtheblack [2006-05-27 01:58:14 +0000 UTC]

you deserve them. sculpting likenesses is a hard job

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hatredtheblack In reply to fearmax [2006-06-04 23:16:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'm really glad you appreciate my stuff.

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Ricardofantasyart [2006-05-22 06:22:18 +0000 UTC]

What can I find to critique here...? Nothing at all! It's great as is! You're right on the money with this one. Excellent job!

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