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googoobear13 [2012-08-15 23:19:20 +0000 UTC]
owners, are tired of being used as scapegoats, because the global conservation
community is failing miserably to save the wild tiger with their current non
efficient methods.
I wish WWF would stop misinforming the public and donors, as well as stop the
possible defamation of a responsible exotic animal community in the USA.
The fact that USA has more captive tigers than the wild shows the true
dedication of US private owners to at least save these magnificent animals in
captivity, since the wild is becoming more and more deadly place for them.
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illmatar In reply to googoobear13 [2012-08-16 00:41:23 +0000 UTC]
Sorry. Not buying it. I am sure there are a few responsible owners out there - as there are a range of people in any given group, but the vast majority are looking for a macho status symbol. It is arrogance. I live near numerous rescue groups and the list of abuses, negligence, and exploitation is repugnant.
Backyard breeders who at the very least have no access to gene pool registries at best or deliberately breeding mutations like white tigers at worst are not strengthening the species. Even zoos may be preserving the species, but only wild natural selection will strengthen it. The sad fact there are so few of them in the wild in no way means they belong HERE.
We can certainly agree that the efforts to save wild populations are dismal, but if you think that just anybody can handle wildlife breeding then I'm sorry. I think that's BS. We can't breed domestic dogs without destroying their health. The list of genetic related illnesses for Cocker Spaniels is like a phone book. Most people can't control their behavior either. Believe me, the list of Chihuahua related deaths would exceed that of Pits and Rotties if they weren't too small to do much damage. You only hear about the big breeds when they hurt someone because the injury is worse. Multiply that by a few more hundred pounds and you have a big cat. Oh and cats are always so cooperative and obedient. I have plenty of scars from my house cats, thanks.
Of course when there's an incident the dog and or cat is put down. That nut job in Ohio comes to mind.
Very sorry. I'm a teacher. Seriously, I have seen enough horrific parenting to think we should have some kind of licensing system for HUMAN reproduction. I know that's never going to happen. You will never convince me that anything but a HIGHLY regulated, and well scrutinized ORGANIZATION like a zoo is suitable. Multiple people need to be responsible for the well being of the animals so that they are less likely to be abused or neglected rather than one person or family.
I'm sorry if you think truth amounts to defamation. If you happen to be one of the breeders who does not inbreed (knowingly or not), who does not exhibit cubs and stunt their growth to extend their time being small, and who does not chain them up in tiny concrete pens, well great for you. Thanks so much for that. Get on the case of your compatriots who DO instead of whining about the WWF and other groups who report on their reckless, cruel activities. They aren't the ones making you look bad.
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googoobear13 In reply to illmatar [2012-08-16 00:53:33 +0000 UTC]
im sorry i didnt mean to offend you ^__^
and i do understand and i completely AGREE with you on the topic of not anyone can handle exotics,
i think you should have to aquire multiple licences, and please,please dont support the taking of animals from RESPONSIBLE breeders, if i didnt have my exotics, i would have died.
its true, my boy timber rescued me , i fell and hit my head on a sharp peice of ice in the snow, he drug me in the house, woke up my mother, and slept by me all night. the doctor said if he didnt drag me inside, i would have died of hypothermia, seeing as i didnt wake up for 6 hours. my poor boy died 3 years ago of old age, i owe him my life, and wont take any exotic from a responsible owner because of it ^__^
and i agree, ALL breeders need to be %100 certified ^__^
im glad the law banning exotics where i lived when into action after timber died, or else, i would have T__T
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illmatar In reply to googoobear13 [2012-08-19 13:43:22 +0000 UTC]
Like I said - there are surely a few responsible owners so it's nice to know you may be one of them, but for you to blame the WWF for causing bad press.... They are doing the best they can, your fellow owners have only themselves to blame for the bad press their actions create. It was offensive, but thank you for turning it around.
If you want to help one of the photographers I watch has been passing the word about a wildlife photograph database for international law enforcement to use when the come across animals/animal products. They are gathering photos of protected species so that the officers have a way to check on what they're looking at. It's in his journal. We are trying to spread the word and get photos donated.
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googoobear13 In reply to illmatar [2012-08-20 03:58:47 +0000 UTC]
ill see what i can do ^__^ and im not blaming the wwf, what i said is true, but personally, i think the real problem company is PETA lol , annyways, do you have any pets? lol this is not a trick question
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Leathurkatt-TFTiggy [2011-06-10 04:45:02 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! I am so bloody sick and tired of people thinking they can have these cats as pets only to end up with badly mistreated or malnourished cats that end up euthanized because they followed their instincts and killed a human! WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE! Big cats are NOT pets! **grumbles irritably at stupid selfish people**
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illmatar In reply to Leathurkatt-TFTiggy [2011-06-10 12:11:14 +0000 UTC]
People like to feed their egos by showing off how "tough" they are owning a big cat. To me it's just showing what a moron they are.
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Leathurkatt-TFTiggy In reply to illmatar [2011-06-10 15:19:29 +0000 UTC]
Oh I definitely agree. Some think the cats love them or that they have a spiritual connection to them. Ummm, I have a strong spirit connection to cats, particularly tigers. Hell, my soul form is a White Amur tiger with tribal Celtic knot work stripes for crying out loud, and I was born the year of the Wood Tiger. But I DO NOT want to have one as a pet, thankyouverymuch. I am perfectly content to have pictures, plushes, books, plates, and figurines of them, thanks. I will do other things to show my love and kinship with them, like supporting Tiger Conservation and such in the wild. That's where they belong, after all. I've researched wild and domestic animals since I was six, I know better. I know and understand their culture, language, and society almost as well as those who study them in the field. Wild animals are NOT pets, they are wild and are meant to stay that way. And domestic animals are NOT our children or property, they are our companions and friends IF we earn their trust. Anyone who believes otherwise on either count needs to have their heads examined...
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illmatar In reply to Leathurkatt-TFTiggy [2011-06-19 13:26:18 +0000 UTC]
Right!
Now...if we could just get all the states to pass laws against anyone but a zoo or a sanctuary owning one.....
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Leathurkatt-TFTiggy In reply to illmatar [2011-06-19 13:53:50 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree there. Seriously. Zoos, Sanctuaries, and Licensed Trainers for TV and Movies, THAT'S IT! >.<
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