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thatsniceofyou [2011-05-23 16:54:54 +0000 UTC]
again i love your style and the colours here are much more vibrant and eye catching than the other piece which really makes a difference in terms of the mood. well done!
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bosel [2011-05-20 19:27:21 +0000 UTC]
Amazing !
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akari-sakata [2011-04-12 16:02:27 +0000 UTC]
I love how you did the grains and the flowers. To me, her bouquet is the strongest element. And for that, I will favorite this!
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springartist [2011-04-10 14:32:12 +0000 UTC]
Lovely rich colors and details.
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sangzhimeart [2011-04-10 14:28:12 +0000 UTC]
Very beautiful and wow, to squeeze that much details in A6 size paper. Even more amazing.
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Dcreativ In reply to Itzea [2011-04-13 09:46:18 +0000 UTC]
Aw, that's sad. And you're even such a detailed writer (I can say this through your comments). But through such an experience, I could say that this is why we shouldn't compel ourselves to comment - just comment to your heart's content. If the work or the artist inspires you to comment, then comment all the way! If it doesn't, or it just makes you say the usual, then you don't have to comment it.
In the end, just do it partly for your own self-benefit (it sounds selfish, but still true in one way or another). So that if no one responds (appropriately) to your comment, you can still say "It's okay, at least I enjoyed commenting this dude/dudette, doesn't matter what they say to me".
Yes, that does get annoying when there's nothing else to say aside from the usual like "beautiful" or "love it". That's why I try focusing on the details, or read other people's comments and try to come up with something they haven't noticed. I also try interpreting the work - it's fun to create a story out of the picture.
What?! That is crazy. An artwork should not have any definite meaning - in fact, it is unusual for an artist to have a single, word-for-word interpretation of his/her work. That's why you should never ask an artist in an interview "what is the meaning of your work?" Because the artist is never obliged to give you an answer.
For art is mostly an expression; it doesn't always need to have meaning. And it is the viewer, not the artist, who gives the work meaning. So I agree with you - Who are they to judge that and how do they know it's not what the author really meant?!
Ah, college; actually, that's where I got the above-mentioned idea. So many things can be learned there. Ah... college.
Jerzy Sosnowski? Matura exam? Wow, I don't know these... I need to read up more. But from you said, that sounds quite interesting and ironic for a person to fail (in this case, barely passing) at interpreting his or her own work. And sad.
Oh my, you play such a game? Then I praise you once more! It's such a coincidence to meet a gamer, though I wish I could relate with you through Dungeon Keeper 2. I once played Dungeon Siege 2 though, so is that close enough?
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Itzea In reply to Dcreativ [2011-04-13 16:32:37 +0000 UTC]
I like your point of view on this. Indeed, it doesn't matter if I get a response or not... though it's always nice to get one. It gets lonely with an empty message box...
Focusing on the details is always a good approach, especially when everything else has been said. And even if the art is not so good, when we reach deeper we can always find something that appeals to us.
Creating a story out of a picture can be a great base for a novel or a short story. Or a comic. It happened to me a few times that I just had to write down my interpretation of a pic and then it engrossed me more than I intended to. XD
Exactly, art does not always need to have meaning. When I draw I rarely think about some deeper meaning of the work; most of the time I just focus on what I want to capture right now and how should I arrange things so it would look good. Especially when it comes to Art Nouveau: for me it's mostly about the composition and showing the beauty of women and nature. Sometimes it's only about passing time. XD Someone might find a deeper meaning in the outcome, but it might have not been indended. And such an interpretation definitely should not be taught to kids at school as the only one that is possible.
Well, it's quite sad, but unfortunatelly only for the students that are taking the exam. Sosnowski's answers weren't right just because he didn't fit in the requirements listed as the correct answers. It just shows how badly those exams are created.
I'm not much of a gamer, there are just a few games that I play. I've never played Dungeon Siege 2 so I don't know if that's similar to DK2. XD I mostly ever played DK2, Rayman 2 and 3 and all parts of GTA and the Sims... XD Oh, and Return to Castle: Wolfenstein; that was a cool game.
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Dcreativ In reply to Itzea [2011-04-14 08:24:41 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. And yes, though I usually don't expect anyone to respond to my comments, it is still nice to have someone appreciate your appreciation once in a while - it keeps you motivated to show more appreciation.
Also, you'll never know - you could strike up a conversation with the artist, the very person who you appreciated! Now that would be awesome (and yes, apparently that idea has worked, with the both of us now chatting through commenting as an excellent example)
Exactly! That's why I like the style of comment through interpretation; it works for any work, no matter the artist, style nor the quality. And to know that you can go that far into interpretation; I wonder how would it be like to write a story about another's work? Sounds rather interesting.
Ah, Art Nouveau - reminds me of arts appreciation class back then. Brings back good times...
And yes, it's too much of a hassle to weave some intricate hidden message into one's drawing and hope other people will get what you intended. Because that may never happen. One is better off drawing for own sake of relaxation, to keep the hands and brain active, or to let off an idea waiting to burst forth from the mind! Let others interpret our own works instead. Too bad it doesn't happen so often here, though.
Thus, I take that as an opportunity to interpret others, to do what few has ever attempted before. I just hope no one complains about 'lengthy, convoluted comments' as I go with my quest in giving elaborate comments... hehe.
I never liked examinations (and who does?). Particularly of the written kind. They tend to test on things that we may not even require in the future, and that's why I'm also not too fond of studying before exams. Too objective.
Practical examinations - now that's better, I believe. At least there is application of knowledge (as knowledge can simply be learned and stored yet never applied in real life), so there is reason for such exams to exist.
Not much of a gamer? With the number of games you've played, I'd say you're quite the player. I've played GTA (just 3 and 4), and I was quite a fan of the Sims (also 2 and 3, but I stopped playing them not so long ago). I'm usually into the gaming styles of RTS (Starcraft 2) and RPG (especially fantasy role-playing games), and maybe a little of FPS (with Call of Duty: Black Ops as my favorite). RPG is my favorite of them all, with Dragon Age 2 as my number one.
Wow, I haven't kept up with a comment response for this long. You know, if we keep this up, I would believe that we are better off chatting instead of through comment boxes, I think... hehe.
I love a good chat though, and I'd rather this wouldn't end.
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Itzea In reply to Dcreativ [2011-04-14 18:44:39 +0000 UTC]
I respond to every comment that contains more than two words; and considerring your commenting pattern you can count on me responding to you every time.
Ah, yes, it would be a very interesting experience to interpret another's work in form of a story... I would attempt it myself, but I would probably never end it, just as any other story of mine. I have a tendency to get into something easily and then lose the enthusiasm... It left me with a number of unfinished drafts that might have turned into quite interesting pieces of writing.
I love Art Nouveau! It's recently grown to be my obsession. XD If Mucha wasn't dead I would marry him. Heck, if someone could get his remains to the altar I would marry him either way! XD
Sad true, most people on this site only look on the visual side; it matters to them only whether the work is pretty or not. But there's much more to art than just the looks! And I think it's great that you're showing that you see it through your comments; you may mobilize others to appreciate that too. And if someone somplains about your responses to their art they must be plain stupid. You give their art more respect and real attention than anyone whose comments are limited to "cute ^^" or "I love it! <3"; and that's what they (most likely) aimed at when whey posted their works.
Even if the examinations do cover practical things they are mostly graded in a fixed way and not open to interpretations. Sometimes even a different wording can take some points away. For me it doesn't make sense; but there's no way of going around the exams, so I guess any complaining is pointless.
The only thing that's good about the written exams is the fact that you can easily cheat on those.
Unfortunately, I don't have much time to play these days... The only things I play nowadays are Solitaire and Mahjong. XD I enjoyed the Sims only for the sake of making houses; that's why I absolutely love the third part as it has so many personalization options. Sadly, it doesn't work on my laptop.
RPG... I RP with my friend on IM if that counts. XD I think DK2 is also counted as RPG and I've played Maple Story some time ago. My friend tries to get me into some more online RPGs but I don't really see the appeal... In most of them the characters are too small for me and I can never say which one is mine.
XD Haha, you're right. I certainly enjoy chatting with you.
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Dcreativ In reply to Itzea [2011-04-15 12:30:35 +0000 UTC]
You're right! And with me never turning down a potentially good chat, this could go on forever...
... Nice.
Same here. Your situation is similar to what is called 'ningas kugon', a supposed common trait of the Filipino. And I, as a Filipino, have had this ningas kugon habit dozens of times. I've had several writing projects and artworks left undone because of it.
Whenever I come up with a story, I become so excited with it that I go crazy thinking, conceptualizing, writing, rewriting... etc. But as time passes by, I get bored with my project, and my mind sparks up a new story to write! But then it gets boring as time passes, and I come up with a new story! And the process continues. It's a sad, sad cycle with this one.
I can definitely see how much you love Art Nouveau. I've just looked up on Mucha, and I must say, he is definitely a good choice to marry - he's not just skilled, he's good-looking too. If ever you succeed in finding him, can I be the best man at your wedding?
Haha, just kidding. But seriously, his works are quite astounding. I wonder how come his name didn't ring a bell in my mind... I would have thought arts appreciation class would have discussed him. Maybe the one who did a report about Art Nouveau forgot to research about him or even mention his works... I don't know... hmmm... if they didn't, then they should have.
Too bad not everyone gets that same message - sometimes, you see here that the concept 'there is beauty in art' is twisted into 'art must be beautiful'. You can and will get bashed if your work is not at par with the ones that the community has placed on the pedestal. Whatever happened to art as an expression?
As for my commenting: Yes, I'm not aiming it, but I do hope my comments might make change. You can say that I like to make a difference - and it's because I like to be different, hehe. I've received positive feedback so far from my kind of commenting, so I guess I shouldn't worry about any haters. Still, I ought to be careful...
Well, yes, you do have a point there. But they're still way more fun to do than compared to the ones where you have to sit down on a desk and write down answers that you get from racking your mind. And yeah, we can't really complain about what our educational system provides for us, so we might as well just live with it.
Oooh, cheating is evil. Delightfully evil. As much as I'd want to blatantly advocate how wrong it is to cheat, I would not do such a thing - for I've done it too. But neither am I going to promote it, that's another story.
Aw, you'll find the time. Every person's got to have their fun time. You're still in college, right? There's still vacation. Just curious though, when is your vacation? I doubt it's right now, or else that would mean Poland and the Philippines have the same school seasons.
I'll tell you thing; I got Dragon Age 2 during the finals exam week and played it for the whole week - without studying for the exams. Yes, I know, I'm that crazy for games.
I'm crazy for any game with character customization options (well, except dress-up games). I love the Sims, particularly Sims 3 (and I've got dozens of screenshots and photos to prove it!). But the thing with that game is that it seems to discourage the player from making multiple families (since the AI would control the rest and do things you don't want them to do).
RPG typically involves creating a character and go on epic quests, battling monsters, get cash, maybe a party, and level-up so you'll be strong enough to beat the final boss. DK2 might be more considered as a strategy game, since it deals with making dungeons and planning where to put necessary traps and stuff (as far as Wiki explains it). But I can't be sure of what I say until I have a firsthand experience with it. But to know that you play a strategy game... I sense even more that you are quite the intellectual thinker, who is quite calculative with your plans.
Or at least, that's the impression I get when I know someone plays strategy games. Because they don't call it strategy for nothing.
Ah, the MMORPG. These are the online RPGs you speak of. They're quite fun, but yes, do they have pretty small characters (especially Ragnarok). They can get lost among the text, floating bubbles, images, and other players. But still, they're quite pretty characters. Sometimes, too pretty...
And I certainly enjoy chatting with you. I haven't had a lovely chat in such a long time. In fact, this is the first time I've had a chat like this with anyone here. And when I do, they usually don't have that many paragraphs, haha.
I'm worried about the comment box limit though. But does it matter? It's the message in the comment box that counts.
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Itzea In reply to Dcreativ [2011-04-15 16:21:36 +0000 UTC]
And as I can see it has a pretty good chance to go forever. XD Is it just me or are our responses getting longer? XD We'd really need to look out for the comment box limit; or switch to notes.
One can't get much done with this kind of attitude. And the worse thing is that there's so much inspiration for new art/stories! Most of my inspiration comes from my dreams; and I dream pretty often so it's really hard for me to stick with one thing for a long time.
Ah, of course, I would be honored to have you as my best man.
It's strange that you haven't heard about Mucha during your art appreciation class. He's the most significant and the best recognized artist of the Art Nouveau (I tend to exclude Klimt from the Art Nouveau crew; he is a secessionist, but he comes too far from my idea of AN. ). What's more, he is international; born in the Czech Republic, learning in Paris - the very home of the avant-garde - and travelling to the USA. You really should read some more about him, he's quite an interesting figure. And his linearts are...
Yes, it's quite sad. I once got bashed for a manga girl having "too deformed face, even for manga style". I don't think there's something as "too deformed" when it comes to comic styles; it's all about deforming the reality to make it more distinct, emphasizing the more important parts of the physical and mental aspects of an individual. Though I admit when I look at the picture that the face does look messed up, but... well, just look at Picasso's works; his faces definitely aren't perfect. xD
Hehe, just don't get anywhere near the Deviant forums or Complaints; you'd get plenty of bashing there for your comments. Or responses like "too long, didn't read". XD
It may be bad to cheat but it saves time. Instead of learning things you'd never really need you can do something more interesting... like drawing!
Yup, I'm in college, second year of English studies. ^^ It's still long time till my vacation; it starts in the middle of June. But then I'd be taking big commissions and learning German and serving training period and... OMG so much to do, so little time!
Ah yes, character customization is the second best thing in the Sims, right after building. I always create my characters to see how would they look in a more realistic shape. XD
Gah, I never know the difference between the kinds of games; just like I don't know the difference between types of music, though I'm addicted to music. XD I feel stupid when someone asks me what kinds of games or music I like.
I always thought strategies were more... strategic. XD I haven't noticed much strategy thinking in DK2, but maybe I just don't recognize it. It's mostly about instinct with me.
I've always wanted to play Ragnarok, the characters look fun. But unfortunately my laptop and my Internet connection are not suitable for any MMORGPs. What really irks me in these games is that if you want your character to look unique you have to pay real money for more clothes and accessoroies... I can't spend fortune to customize each character in each game, dammit!
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Dcreativ In reply to Itzea [2011-04-16 15:14:25 +0000 UTC]
Yes, they are getting longer. I have observed that, at times, I comment to your responses with at least two sentences for every sentence that you have, with an inclusion of two or more sub-topics per response. (I did not really understand what I just said ) Thus, if my guess is right, our responses will grow larger by an exponential rate. Ah, too much math...
I really wonder if there is a limit. I don't see any... I hope there isn't. I also wonder if there's another way we could talk; I didn't tell you this on my last post, but my computer rebooted itself in an update while I was responding to your last comment - and it happened when I was almost done. The worse part was I didn't save it, so I had to write my response all over again. And it's funny because this time I save my comments in Word files once in a while so that it's really saved.
Yes, so true; that's why ningas kugon is not a trait anyone (no matter the nationality) would love to have. And true once again - everything around us can be a source of inspiration. I could probably write a novel about a toothbrush if I wanted to. But seriously, I did write a story when I was inspired after having a haircut, and another one when I ate a donut. So, it just further proves our point.
I've been wanting to write a story based on my dreams, but I couldn't piece the plot just right. Do you like talking about your dreams? I try to stuff every dream that I can remember in a mental 'dream journal'. And many of these dreams are quite funny.
It's hard for me to stick to one thing at a time as well (see the cycle from last post). And it's just so good to try out something new... even my art style; I can't stick to one style for very long. Sometimes I go for manga, sometimes I go for realism. Currently I'm in both.
Yay! Then I can't wait for the wedding. Maybe I should try to look for Mucha's remains after I graduate. And maybe a new suit. Oh, and a plane ticket. Oooh... sounds like an adventure.
I really can't recall him, I'm sorry about that. But Klimt sounds awfully familiar... he was mentioned in world literature class, but I forgot if he was in arts appreciation class. Maybe I wasn't paying attention during the report that day... uh oh.
Oh, I will. I shall go for an epic quest to read about Mucha, study his style, his art, his life!
What?! You have been bashed? Let me see this person, I shall bash this one with more than just words!
Okay, calm down, Dcreativ, you can go vent your unbridled fury on someone later...
But seriously, I'm shocked of this situation. And I agree with you. What you said is how the objective of film is defined, where film does not seek to present the exact copy of reality, but instead show an imitation (which can be twisted, distorted and fictional) of it (as how I remembered it). So it's rather like art, where we do not necessarily seek to create an exact replica of real life but present a fictional imitation (cartoon and manga has already achieved this idea with the way they depict people). Also, this has been a question I've asked myself several times ever since I practiced realism - do I have to be that realistic when I draw? My style's not even hardcore realism, it's more of a semi-realist type.
Probably the amount of deformity depends on the individual's tastes. And about Picasso; you can use that as an argument the next time someone thinks your works are messed-up.
"Picasso's works aren't exactly perfect, yet no one's complaining that he's famous!" Goodness, Picasso would kill me for this. Sorry, Picasso...
I stay away from the chatrooms. I got traumatized by them ever since my ego got bashed in one... "You're not there yet" one chatter said while commenting my performance as an artist. Tsk. Since when has anyone been 'there'? What is this 'there' that chatter spoke of? Is it perfection of style? Because I don't think any artist has reached that 'there' - no one can, not even her. Ugh.
As for forums, I've seen some nasty comments, but I'm glad I never received one. I think I'll do better in them than in a... ugh... chatroom... even typing the word brings chills to my fingers.
Moving on...
For me, I'd rather just not do it all the same. I still do well with my grades without needing to cheat, so why bother cheating? Oh, perish the thought! Haha, I will not disagree to your point - sometimes I doubt whatever the educational system is forcing us to stuff in our brains is actually going to be used in real life (like physics and advanced algebra for journalism? Please). And I will not stop you from your endeavors.
Oooh... English studies. Niiiceee. I assume it's similar to what the English Major students study in college here, and they're lovely people (my first friends in college came from their group). I also assume your majors include studying world literature, language, and creative writing? Ahh... English studies.
And another ooh... your vacation's in mid-June? that's two months more! And the funny thing is, June is when our classes start... irony...
Yes, time moves so quickly. We're all getting pushed into the beyond, and we'll be on our own after college, fending for ourselves, living it as we please... time is so fast.
Haha! I've used Sims and its facial structures to learn a thing or two about facial anatomy (which is probably a weird way to learn art...). But think about it; Sims 3's characters are the most realistic, almost human. It's kinda scary for me.
I've also loved building in Sims, but Sims 3 build mode was a little difficult for me to use (which is quite ironic when you think about it). Also, I got insecure from the many good-looking pre-model houses they have, but I did manage to build one mansion for my family there.
I also have trouble differentiating some music genres (like pop for instance). I like music (particularly on classic, oldies and retro) though maybe not to the point of an addiction. If I had an addiction, it'd probably be in gaming, hehe.
Oh, it doesn't have to be. And that's how brilliant you are! These strategy games have become less of a challenge for you. In fact, it has become second nature - an instinct, as you have already mentioned.
Real tricky these 'free' MMORPGs are, making players pay real money to get the premiums like clothes and EXP bonuses. I haven't gotten Ragnarok (last time I checked - which was years ago - it wasn't free), but I've played Granado Espada, Tantra, RF Online (top three most memorable) and probably more that I can't remember.
Yeah... it was the leveling-up and getting new equipment that got me hooked into RPGs (both stand-alone and the online kinds). Sometimes, I forgo equipment quality with design, and I get real disappointed when high-level armor and weapons aren't as good-looking as the low-level kinds. Good thing that's rarely the case.
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Itzea In reply to Dcreativ [2011-04-17 23:19:07 +0000 UTC]
O.o So our responses will grow... till they reach infinity!
No, anything but math!
The only limit I see right now is my internet connection that doesn't like sending long responses. It's really moody and I have to reason with it sometimes. And there's always another way; from simple e-mail to some kind of IM (thought I really don't know many besides of the Polish ones ).
XD Luckily my laptop is more disciplined than that. I've started saving my responses about the second one, when your comments became too big for me to see while typing. It's easier to open a Notebook Pad and type next to your comment box. XD If I were you in the reboot situation I would be too annoyed to type everything again and saved it for another day. I'm not a patient person.
By the way, in Poland an equivalent of 'ningas kugon' is 'słomiany zapał', and it's also a very common trait.
You spiked my curiosity here, I would love to read such kinds of stories. XD I'm now reading about the Inquisition and torture methods and it gives me this urge to write about tortures. I probably wouldn't think of a toothbrush as a theme for writing though. But on the other hand...
I have some crazy dreams sometimes and I like to describe them to my friends. XD The saddest part is, I mostly forget the details soon after. What I remember best from my dreams, and also what fascinates me most about them, is that their setting is connected. My dreams seem to take place in a whole new world and every new piece of this land I explore in a dream fits perfectly with the other. I can't really describe how this place looks, but it's like a crooked version of the reality I know. Some place I know from my memory, the others are imaginary, and yet others later appear to really exist (happened to me a few times that I discovered the places from my dreams in real life; places I have never had any chance to see before O.o). That may be why I forget the details ofthe happenings so often; I mostly focus on the settings.
Same here, I get influenced by many artists. Art Nouveau is actually the only style I stick with for a longest period of time. XD Just by looking at my gallery you can see that I am undecided. People tell me that they like my style, but I wonder if I really do have any. Actually... what are the defining features of a personal style?
Yaaay! We're going on an adventuuuuuuuuure! We're going on an adventuuuuuuuuure! Char-lieeeeeeeeee!
You must have slept over that report, they had to mention at least Klimt.
XD I can help you bash her, I've learned some useful torture techniques today.
Yes, in most cases the situation of art is similar to film. Of course, there always is realism that is bound to portray the things as they are, but even it can show the distortion in a different way; for example an eerie situation portrayed with the realistic effect. But the portrait also isn't reality itself; it only shows the reality in a mirror. The mirror can be clear or distorted and it is up to the artist in which mirror he/she prefers to look.
However, we can't forget that the people shape the artist; they give him/her label through which he/she would be portrayed for the rest of his/her artistic existence. It was the case with Mucha: he wanted to be true to his Czech heritage and make a series of highly realistic works concerned with Czech's history. But he was labelled as the 'commercial' artist, whose works were known for their vivid lines and flowery ornaments and were used on posters, packagings, edvertisements, etc. The historical series were never as popular as his commercial works and he was forever known for his slightly 'deformed' style.
Picasso's small business compared to this famous painting... what was it?... a black square on a white backgroud? XD Or something equally silly.
I'm not really into the 'highly deformed' art (Sorry, Picasso ) and the modern one. It just seems to me sometimes that nowadays every haphazard splatter of paint on paper can be called art. Where is effort in that? We pay with our own sweat, corns and tears for the quality of our works and yet the artist title goes to someone who pukes colorful milkshakes!
That wasn't nice... >.> I've never been in a dA chatroom, generally chatrooms scare me away. And your example just makes me visit them even less. No artist has even achieved perfection; otherwise he would cease creating. What is the point of creation if you can't push your limits and strive for being better, going further than you are now? Well, I don't see any. I've heard somewhere that when you reach perfection you die, because you have nothing to do anymore; and I agree with it completely.
A good thing to do in the forums is not to give a damn about anything they say about you.
You learn physics for journalism? O.o As an obligatory subject? That's the weirdest idea ever. >_> Even we don't have such non-connected subjects; all are more or less connected to the generally understood motif. Apart from the non-obligatory ones, but we can choose them ourselves. Oh, and PE.
That's a miss, pall. Literature yes, but only British and American (and only for a year, later we can choose between American and British and between literature and culture). We don't learn much language per se (they assume that everyone who goes there to study must already be quite skilled in English), we mostly learn language: syntax, fonetics, fonology, history of language, etc. But we still have discussion classes and some grammar exercises ones. And I would have to dissappoint you, but no creative writing either. Critical, yes. But they do not encourage creative thinking much.
Two months... My goodness, I'm getting old... T^T
I'm not really all up for the "fending for ourselves" part... cause I don't really know what I want to do in the future! Time's running too fast for me. T^T
I would not say it's scary... I was quite pleased with the amount of 'humanity' of Sims in the third part, it allowed me to better create my characters. The second part was so weird, the characters didn't look human; they reminded me of some strange elves. THAT was scary.
My friend studies building and she uses a program that has similar features to the Sims 3. I say to you: if you can handle building and customizing in the Sims 3, you may as well become an architect.
And about music... Many of my friends are crazy for music, mostly rock, and they can distinguish all the genres. But when they ask me about it I can say nothing! I feel so stupid at such times. But for me it's more about just the music, not the labels, and I don't care how it's called as long as I like it.
I like classics too. My favorite is "Carmina Burana".
Oh shush! You, mister, are the master of flattery.
I don't have much experience in RPGs, apart from Maple Story. But it had some cute designs.
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Dcreativ In reply to Itzea [2011-04-19 15:35:52 +0000 UTC]
To infinity... and beyond! I wonder if we can last that long.
I’ve also thought of email to be a wonderful idea; it’s quite practical (since it appears we’re both fond of writing ridiculously long messages ). IM sounds like a good option too, but one problem with it is that we might not leave our computer screens once we begin chatting. And I can verify this; when I met my long-lost friend from high school online, we began chatting for hours like there’s no tomorrow. Sometimes, I even endanger my schoolwork because I put it off for chatting... haha. But still, it’s worth a try if ever we manage to find an IM to use.
I use Yahoo! for both IM and emails. You can already see my email-add from my dA account, so if you do feel like conversing with me through email, go ahead. I’ve actually been waiting the day someone here would send me an email, or maybe that’s where I get all my spam... hmmm...
Wow, if only I had your strategic planning, I’d have saved my responses that soon too. And you’re right; it is easier to use a Notepad while responding the comment (I’m using it right now). Now I can type without worries!
I was really frustrated that moment when my response didn’t save, and I did have thoughts of doing it some other day. But I told myself “No! I won’t keep her waiting any longer!” And I typed away. What you read was a shorter version of the original (emphasize on the word ‘shorter’), but with the same thought. And since you said you’re not a patient person, I guess I shouldn’t tarry and keep you waiting for my responses, so my action that night was good.
Cool! I always love learning new terms. I shall remember that term till I perish. (And if I forget: you can slap me in the face if ever we meet, and remind me that I told you to do that in this comment). Next problem now is how to pronounce it.
Yeah, so far they’ve received some good comments from my friends (particularly the one about the donut; it gets them freaked-out every time ). I’d be happy to share my stories with you! And you will be the first person outside the Philippines to read them. I think it’s better off sent through email; so yes, this further proves that emailing could benefit both of us.
Oooh... the Inquisition. I’ve always loved them (though not in a romantic sort of way), so sinister with their methods, so dark. And to think they do it for their faith; now that’s what you call pious to a whole new level. They’ve always been an inspiration for me in my literary endeavors. Ah.
And another oooh... you’ve done research on the Inquisition torture methods? Can you share this to me if ever we’re in a more private conversation? Commenting right here isn’t exactly a heart-to-heart talk, and sometimes I wonder if anyone else is reading our comments... I’ll just take that they thought to themselves ‘didn’t read, too long’, as you mentioned in an earlier comment.
Well, the toothbrush was just an example of how literal is ‘everything can be used as inspiration’ can be. But I think I can come up with interesting stories about toothbrushes... and we can even slap in some Inquisition and torture while we’re at it.
Me too! I’ve discussed the ones I remember to some friends, usually because they find it a good laugh. I can also share some to you in the future, if you’re interested (and we’ll go on dream sharing! ) . And the way you describe your dream is quite interesting. Mine never seems to be connected to each other in any way, and it’s like a whole separate world within every dream. But each dream has a different setting that is usually based on the real world (like a school or a beach). My way of remembering is the other way around, I remember the events more vividly than the details of the setting. Also, most dreams I have tend to have someone that I know in real life in them, though I barely get to interact with these people. I rarely have control over my dreams, and ‘myself’ just acts without my consent – the experience is like I can see myself doing things, but I’m not telling myself to do them. It’s also a bit like watching film in first perspective.
Really? Let me see your gallery... hmmm... oh my word. You’re style has changed a lot during your span of time. What I am even more astonished is that each change is significant – I could swear I saw some anime, some cartoon, some Art Nouveau (obviously), even mediums change from traditional to digital. My, my, you sure are a versatile one. So far, I think your current style is working for you.
I don’t know if there is a hard, fast rule on what makes one artist’s style a personal style, and I doubt it exists, but I do know that everyone’s style is different. Sure, we can say that some artists have similar-looking galleries, or use same mediums, or even come from same art genres. But there is always that certain detail that makes two people’s works completely different. I’ve always believed that no two artists can have the same style. This is because all of our experiences, personalities, and interests, will always be the factor of our art styles.
It’ll explain why we don’t have a lot of Leonardos, Raffaellos, or even Muchas – because their style is unique and personal, and no one can make works that are the same as theirs. Even Picasso.
I believe you do have a personal style. It’s hidden in your gallery, somewhere along the different works. As you shift art genres, you still carry your personality and apply it to a new genre, which still makes it your style. The choice of subjects to portray, the type of materials you like to work with, even the way you hold your pencil – that’s what defines your style. Hey, I think I gave your answer! (or I just rambled for three paragraphs while barely scratching the answer... hmmm...)
Oh my, you know Charlie too? Ahahahahaha! Good one! We can bring him along.
But I don’t remember sleeping on that report... maybe it’s just a long time since I remembered. It was during first year college and now I’ve just finished third year... now I’m reminded how close I am to graduating and even closer to living against all odds, against the great, big, world. Sigh.
Nice. I love a good torture, though usually I like better the ones that doesn’t need to have any blood spilling (like emotional or mental torture, haha). Know of any such torture methods? If you still want some bloodshed, then it’s good thing that you’ll tag along too. Then we can give the poor one all the different aspects of pain!
Oh my, I love your analysis of the portrait. So deep. So profound. You’re so right. And to look at it another way, it would be as if our hands and minds be the mirror that shall cast the reflection in the form of the artist’s output. So the quality and kind of mirror can affect that reflection. But whatever it is, the artwork can never depict reality, for it is always a reflection of reality and never reality itself. That, and because we are imperfect beings, the reflection will always be imperfect. Brilliant.
Ah yes, no matter how much we want to defy the norms of society and become unique, we can never escape the fact that we are born from society, and our products will always be a product of society. Society categorizes art into different genres and we are labelled into our respective genre. We cannot even claim complete credit of our personal style, for before it was a style created and accepted by society, then emulated and modified into a style by us the artist.
I believe I’ve heard and seen that work before, I just forgot everything else. I believe there’s a joke on those kinds of works – hold a blank piece of white paper and you can title it “Polar Bear in a Snowstorm”, “Spilled Milk on White Table”, or “Emptiness”. Tada! You’ve made art.
Well, that’s another thing for art – it’s a by-product of the human being and it requires experience. With that statement, nearly anything can become art, as long as there was human experience involved. A paperclip can be called art if you can put it on a pedestal and have it displayed in your home. Even paint spills and hurled colourful milkshakes will get credit if you just put it in an art gallery. And if society accepts it as art, then it’s an art (no matter how much the individual say it isn’t... sad, isn’t it?) Apparently, our society today’s got some weird tastes.
I was young and foolish at that time, and I should have been aware of the dangers of being in there. Now I know better, and I’ve never been into a chatroom ever since. I won’t stop you or anyone from entering one though; there were some good times I’ve had. But they don’t outweigh the not-so-good times. And besides, why should I go back? I was never much of a social person, anyway (I’m not too fond hanging out in groups or parties). I did it back then for the exposure and the learning, not for the conversation.
Yes, once you reach to the top, where will you go? Nowhere else but down. And no one can reach perfection, for we are all imperfect to begin with. And have you heard of this: Practice makes perfect, but since we’re imperfect, why practice? Haha. It’s quite a funny logic there, and I wouldn’t take that too literally. But it makes some sense; we’re never perfect, so we should not aim to practice for perfection. Instead, aim for excellence. It’s better than perfection, simply because it’s doable. No one is perfect. But anyone can be excellent. All it takes is practice.
And thanks for agreeing with me; I never brought that issue to anyone else, so I was not even sure if what I was saying made any sense (yeah, silly me ). Now that I know there’s someone who agrees, I feel much surer of myself.
Hmmm... I’ll remember that next time. Don’t feed the trolls. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I learned physics in high school, and I’ve always wondered how’s that going to benefit the course I’ll be taking. But I did learn statistics, environmental science, and biology (both lecture and laboratory work) during college; and I’ve wondered how’s that beneficial to me if I decide to be a journalist or a radio broadcaster. Oh yeah, and I’m actually a mass communications student; journalism (writing and advanced journalism writing) is a subject I took.
We usually get the ‘basic’ subjects (subjects that are high-school-ish like Science, English, Math) during first and second year, then it’s on to mostly majors by third and fourth year. Also, I never really enjoyed PE. I’m not even the athletic kind of person, and I’m also not the outdoorsman. I really just stare at the computer and type or play all day or just draw.
Aw, really? Maybe I don’t know my English friends enough, darn it. Or your course there is different from here (since I don’t recall my friends talking about learning British). As for language, I actually meant it that way (I should have been more specific, haha), I heard they did learn even the theories and histories how language came to be. But since I’m just speculating, then I can’t really be sure if they are truly studying what I’m saying.
No creative writing? That was the reason why I had thoughts getting into English studies! That’s sad. But would you have wanted to have creative writing in your course if they’d allow it? You seem like a writer (and your messages prove it), so I’m guessing a yes (once again, a speculation).
Time’s running fast for me too. Sometimes I think 24 hours isn’t enough time for a day. But then, if you said that during class... now that’s a different story. I’ve got plans after graduating, but I’m more afraid that my plans might go to fail and I’ll end up poor and homeless and... I don’t want to think about it.
Do you have plans to see the world? I’ve always dreamed to go out of the country some time in the future, to see at least some of the world if not all of it, but I haven’t decided which place to go (and if I have the cash to do it). I’ve always wanted to try a place in Europe... I’ve always enjoyed the culture and history there. Somewhere like England or France... or maybe I could try Poland.
And they even allowed furniture to face diagonally, now that’s a step-up in Sim evolution. And Sims 3 really knows how to eat your time; I could spend literally hours just to come up with one Sim! And now that you mention it, you’ve got a point; Sims 2 faces are kinda scary. :scared:
Well, good for them they know how. And don’t worry, at least you’re not the only one who’s got trouble with music genres. I know some names, but no idea what they mean.
I don’t really have a favourite music, I basically like any music that has a good beat. But I do seem to love the songs from Bee Gees (their song “Stayling Alive” gets me every time). I know Copacobana, but I think that’s a whole different music. Hmm... I wonder how does your favorite music sound like.... Carmina Burana... I’ll try to remember that.
Me? The master of flattery? It’s nothing, really; I find it a win-win situation when I flatter, since I take pleasure in pleasing people and making them happy. And you are no exception. I’m here to do the best I can to make you happy.
In the end, it makes me a happy man too.
I’ve heard of Maple Story, though I’m not too familiar with it. I’d love to get you immersed into the world of RPGs, if you’re interested. But then, I don’t know any online games so far to play. I haven’t had an online game so far, and I find it capable to eat one’s time if you get hooked to it.
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Itzea In reply to Dcreativ [2011-04-20 07:05:00 +0000 UTC]
I'm sure we can! I will keep replying even from Hell, I promise.
Ridiculously long is an understatement. XD You do realise the message I'm responding to right now, alone, is 5 pages long? Even our essays at college have less words! XD
Considering our messaging pattern to this point I would say that if we were to chat through IM we would spend on it a week straight without food or other necessities. I talk with my friend every day for a few hours; and even though we talk so much we always have something more to say to each other. I can't really count how many nights I've underslept and how many times I have endangered my schoolwork because of that. XD
I suggest we should transfer these confersations to e-mail; and better yet turn the two conversations we have now (I don't really count the third one for I suppose it would die out soon) into one big one. This said, I await your response via e-mail this time (aniolmroku@tlen.pl), together with some of your stories. In exchange I can send you mine, if you still would want to proofread them.
But continuing on to the rest of my response...
Gosh, a shorter version? O.o I'm afraid to even think what a longer one would look like. XD
Sorry, I should have given you the pronunciation at once. It would be SU-O-MI-AN-Y (Y like in abyss) ZA-PA-U. More or less.
Wow, I'll be the first, I feel so honored. I shall wear the title with pride.
If you love the Inquisition you'd probably enjoy a book series written by Jacek Piekara. I's basically about an Inquisitor in a world where Jesus steped down from the cross and, wielding in his hands a sword and fire he, together with the Apostles, slaughtered the people of Jerusalem in revenge. It's all about witch-chasing, tortures, heretics and suspense, all seen through the prism of the crooked religious fanatism. However, I don't know if it's been published outside Poland, so that may be a problem.
If you've written stories about tortures, the Inquisition or such I want to read them too!
I'm trying to get some more info about them for some time now but the only things I can find online are some vague and inconsistent descriptions of the tools. I want some long and juicy methods, dammit, I want some examples, some original reports! I would have to invest in some good book on the subject.
But so far the pear seems to be the most interesting torture tool.
I think our comments are too long for anyone to want to read; and even if someone took upon this impossible quest I doubt they would hold out for long.
Ooooh, I can just imagine a simple toothbrush turned into a pain-bringing object... But there could also be something a little simpler... like a day of an Inquisitor, revolving around a toothbrush. XD And an Inquisitor's wife who complains all day about him using her toothbrush. She complains and complains till she tortures him to death with her complaining.
Dream sharing sounds like fun! I shall write down all my dreams from now on.
Your dreams sound interesting. Usually I have control over what I do in mine, of course to some extent. It must be really entertaining and relaxing to watch your dreams like a film.
But when I think about it I remember some of mine in which I was just a spectator in my body... and it was strange... those dreams were strange... O.o
Haha, yeah... I've started out with manga; I grew on Sailor Moon and Slayers and I've learned how to draw by copying the pictures from these series. Then I grew a bit older, saw some great dark art and wanted to turn in a different direction... boy, was it hard! But this way I learned to draw pretty much anything so it turned out for the best I think.
I'm not sure what you mean by my 'current style' though; I have many styles I draw in right now.
I agree with you; every artist has this something that characterizes their art. Just like no two paintings are the same, even if they are copied from, let's say, a Picasso's painting (I think he grew to be a common guest in our conversations ). You can always see that they're not the original.
I hope I will see this 'something' in my art someday. For now, I would just have to take your word for my having it. XD
I don't know how someone can NOT know Charlie. XD
The great, big world... Don't scare me!
Oh, I know of some emotional torture methods as well. Simple, but effective. But some blood spilled on the floor would be a nice finishing touch nonetheless.
Ah, thank you, kind sir. And I like how intelligent and theorized you make my random thoughts seem.
Lol, I've heard about 'Polar Bear in a Snowstorm'. XD I've seen someone actually doing something similar for an art class; a girl drew just two little eyes in the middle of a white sheet of paper and claimed it to be a polar bear in a snowstorm. She didn't pass. xD Apparently, according to the teacher it wasn't art. How ironic.
Well, I wouldn't want to put some splatters of regurgitated milkshake on my wall.
Same here. I'm a really antisocial person; three people are already a crowd for me. That's why I never enjoyed chatrooms; too many random people. Besides, I doubt one would get a real learning in the chatrooms; some critique group would be a better place. Nowadays even the art scene forum is not free of trolls.
Well said, I agree with you. Excellence is what we need to reach for. But there's so much work to do before we reach it. I need to practice more!
Oh, you make perfect sense most of the time (when you're not speaking math-like language ). ^^ No need to feel insecure.
Hmm, a mass communication student who's not really social... I have a feeling it may end badly. But at least with all the other subjects you learn you can always go for physics. You've already mastered the math language.
PE is my nemesis. Together with history and math. But my college has all different kinds of sports and other physical activities one can choose from and I've found something perfect for me: Nordic Walking. PE is not a torture any more!
It may be that English studies differ depending on where they're taught. The students of English in Philipinnes deal with English on a daily basis (or at least that's what I assume ) so they don't need to learn about some things we still need to focus on.
And yes, we learn the theories and history a lot (like the dreaded History of Language I have this semester).
It was sad for me too when I discovered there's no creative writing. I would take every creating writing class in sight if there were any. XD I've been writing since primary school so it would be more of a pleasure than obligation for me. For now, a translation classes would have to do. Translation is good too.
Sometimes I wonder if someone's stealing my time because I seem to have less that 24 hours per day. Who are you and what are you doing with my time, you mysterious thief?!
I prefer not to have any plans for future because if they don't come true I would be disappointed. I don't like to be disappointed, I prefer to take every day with an open mind and heart.
I've always wanted to travel to the USA to live there. But there's no point in dreaming for that would never happen.
I've seen some other Europe countries so far: I've been in the Czech Republic (I plan to go there again this year just to visit the Mucha Museum ), Slovakia, France, Ukraine, Finland, Denmark, Norway, UK... Now that I think about it I've traveled through half of Europe (roughly). O.o
My father likes Bee Gees. I don't really like most of the music he listens to, but Bee Gees are all right.
Oh my, that sounds wrong...
You may get me into RPGs when I'm back in my hometown; I have better Internet connection there and I would be able to download some games. But one game at a time please, my laptop is not capable of handling more.
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