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Published: 2019-08-22 15:56:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 3376; Favourites: 143; Downloads: 11
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Description My 2 favorite fossil Pokemon
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BluegirlWoomy [2022-01-31 17:11:25 +0000 UTC]

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j7663701 In reply to BluegirlWoomy [2022-01-31 17:12:36 +0000 UTC]

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elmsi [2019-08-23 16:04:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm such a biology nerd so the more accurate Pokemon are drawn the more I love it. 

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j7663701 In reply to elmsi [2019-08-24 01:34:31 +0000 UTC]

I sorta major in biology so I can understand^^

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elmsi In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-25 00:38:26 +0000 UTC]

Sorta?

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j7663701 In reply to elmsi [2019-08-25 01:36:32 +0000 UTC]

The department is called Biological Resources~too diverse but not specialized to anything~sorta way

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elmsi In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-25 23:00:24 +0000 UTC]

Gottcha!

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introvertnacho [2019-08-23 07:12:57 +0000 UTC]

Really neat painting ^^. Right now, I'm having memories of the hatching scene from Jurassic Park

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j7663701 In reply to introvertnacho [2019-08-23 07:47:46 +0000 UTC]

That's definitely some of my intentions^^

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Absbor-Phamtusin [2019-08-22 18:25:24 +0000 UTC]

lol

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j7663701 In reply to Absbor-Phamtusin [2019-08-23 01:13:58 +0000 UTC]

@0@

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Fuego-fantasmal [2019-08-22 16:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Great work.

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j7663701 In reply to Fuego-fantasmal [2019-08-23 01:14:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Fuego-fantasmal In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-23 02:27:18 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome.

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SpireEx [2019-08-22 16:39:11 +0000 UTC]

Wow how accurate and well colored they look!

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j7663701 In reply to SpireEx [2019-08-23 01:15:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you^^

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SpireEx In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-23 17:32:46 +0000 UTC]

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Evodolka [2019-08-22 16:07:55 +0000 UTC]

seeing this just makes me want to hatch a chicken and a lizard at the same time and see if they become friends

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j7663701 In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-22 16:29:22 +0000 UTC]

I really hope we can have new fossils in SwSd.

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Evodolka In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-22 16:35:40 +0000 UTC]

same here
if it is based of Britain then it would make sense to have fossil Pokemon considering it is the birth place of paleontology
and if they do have fossils i hope they spice it up with 3 of them, each based off the 1st 3 dinosaurs found
. Megalosaurus
. Iguanadon
. Hylaeosaurus
it would just be a beautiful reference

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j7663701 In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-22 16:43:14 +0000 UTC]

A trio will be great~
Iguanodon and Hylaeosaurus are fine~though I'm afraid maybe in their eyes Megalosaurus will be too similar to Tyrantrum for the basic T-rex vibe.
I didn't really adore the design of Tyrantrum~so it will be good to see another take.

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Evodolka In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-22 18:25:52 +0000 UTC]

i think it is fine as long as it is a different type and has a noticeably different design, than tyrunt, it can be done
i personally like Tyrantrums design, more reason to go a different route with this hypothetical Megalosaur
type wise i think these 3 could be
. Rock/Fighting fore Iguanadon (think that would be cool to have the thumb spikes used in such a combat way)
. Rock/Fire for Hylaeosaurus (make the spikes on it vets for the fire to spew out from)
. Rock/Psychic for Megalosaurus (to both try something new and reference the Megalosaurus from Dinosaur King, also gives it an advantage over the Iguanadon)

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j7663701 In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-23 07:13:09 +0000 UTC]

I may have a fossil line resembling Dimorphodon in the future for my Ultra series~kinda like the Aerodactyl in the project.

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Evodolka In reply to j7663701 [2019-08-23 20:12:33 +0000 UTC]

sounds sweet

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chubibear In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-22 22:12:32 +0000 UTC]

I would love some "retrosaur" kind of fossil pokemon :
The Megalosaur-Fossil Pokemon could be a quadrupedal rock type, based on the early depiction of the dinosaur, that would evolve into a swift bipedal Pokemon (rock/fighting) The Iguanodon-Fossil Pokemon could be a small chubby bipedal Pokemon, some kind of kangaroo-like chibi dino, that would evolve into a quadrupedal "behemoth" (either rock/grass or rock/normal i guess).
Finally, as the third member of the trio, a simple rock/water Ichtyosaur-like fossil Pokemon with no evolution and big, round eyes. The Ichtyosaur is a well-known prehistoric animal discovered in Great Britain after all ; while the Hylaeosaurus is considered as a nomen dubium and isn't that well known...

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Evodolka In reply to chubibear [2019-08-22 22:50:09 +0000 UTC]

that too would be nice, but i imagine it would make them look a little samey if they were the early reconstructions, but with that evolution idea though is cool, actually love it

. i can see fighting as a megalosaur, i only said psychic type for a reference and for a predator relationship with the fighting type Iguanadon
a chubby little Iguanadon sounds cool and cute
grass would fit, i only said fighting because the i could see them using the thumbs like combat knives or something
. i want to avoid rock waters as the fossil Pokemon seem a tad full of those at the moment, but yeah it would be cool to have one, Rock/Water still works, and it DOES add a more dolphin like Pokemon to the roster, that and an Ichthyosaur would be cool considering it was a MASSIVE break through when it was discovered

true i don't know much about Hylaeosaurus, no one really talks about it
really? how is it a nomen dubium if it was the 3rd thing discovered?

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chubibear In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-23 11:09:01 +0000 UTC]

A lot of fossils were registered under the name "Hylaeosaurus", but paleontologists realized after a while a lot of them were actually from different animals such as Polacanthus. The description made from the animal is false too ; as well as for other reasons, the name was classified as a nomen dubium...

Design-wise, a fighting Iguanodon could be a thing (except i don't see to which martial art it could borrow the style ; but i'm sure it would be possible to find one anyway).
But a Psychic Theropod, that would be a pickle, as nothing links the Megalosaur to the usual traits shared by the psychic Pokemon. A Maniraptor would fit easily tho, with psychedelic feathers (*w*)

True the rock/water fossil Pokemon are quite a lot, but quite a lot of Pokemon are water type anyway, and i believe there's a room for an Ichtyosaur-like Pokemon actually :
If it doesn't evolve,  its stats could be mediocre, but mostly focus on speed, and learn moves such as Aqua Jet, Accelerock, Dive and extreme speed
If he evolves, it coul be some sort of water/rock wailord with really high defensive stats and double-edge moves such as ... Double-Edge and Head-Charge maybe ?

For the Iguanodon, i know the rock/normal type sucks, but i believe it would be the one that makes the most sense, as the Iguanodon was a really common Dinosaur with little specification and peculiar traits appart from its claws. It would also be very weak to a fighting/rock Megalosaur (while the grass/rock type would actually be stronger), but giving him access to moves with low PP such as counter, dragon tail, Last Resort, Giga-impact, Stone Edge and Mega-Kick and Flail while giving him high-defensive stats could turn it into a tricky opponent to take down.

Finally, the Megalosaur, starting from a 4 legged rock/type, it would evolve into a two-legged, swift fighter. I first thought it would be nice to based its fighting style on boxing, but it's a combat style that mostly uses fists, and Megalosaur had rather short arms... So why not make it simply into a relentless fighter, to emphatize its predatory nature ? With moves that hit multiples times such as Double and Triple Kick, Arm Thrust as well as moves effective on tanks, like Close combat, Low Kick, Low Sweep and Rock Smah... Or simply moves that would reflect the Life/Death lifestyle of a solitary predator : submission and Reversal ?

Anyway, thanks to you, i believe i came up with nice ideas for potential Fakemon ! Too bad i suck at drawning tho...

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Evodolka In reply to chubibear [2019-08-23 21:28:59 +0000 UTC]

interesting
ok then Ichthyosaur Pokemon that don't evolve, let's go

it can still work, just make most of the moves it learns kick and chop attacks, maybe close combat can be a late level fighting move it can learn
it could be a different type, i mainly just said it just so there would be a predator prey relation between these 2, with the prey never giving up like a fighter and the hunter having an advantage to take it down
as for if psychic don't fit or not, did ice fit an amargosaurus? still ended up as 1 of my favorite Ice types ever
besides, i'm mainly trying to avoid another Rock Dragon type for a theropod, but other types are still on the table, a Rock/Ghost megalosaur would be cool, and it still gets a immunity to fighting moves, not super effective but still helpful to have

a Psychic raptor would be nice, maybe an Oviraptor design with the crest being able to pick up signals
psychedelic feathers are a cool idea too

maybe it could be sort of an opposite to lapras, with lapras being a defensive and this being offensive
that way you can have a reference to the whole plesiosaur thing

rock/normal can fit, and it it adds well against a rock/fighting megalosaur
the megalosaur starting off old style is a super cool idea, love it

your welcome, it is always cool to see what others can imagine in new fossil Pokemon
i bet you'r not that bad, if you want to draw them then keep practicing until you feel comfy enough to show them here, i was the same a while back, but you just gotta practice

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chubibear In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-24 00:01:50 +0000 UTC]

Damned ! The rock/ghost Megalosaur is an awesome idea ! This way, the Iguanodon could still be designed around the whole "counter fighting" style using its thumbs too ; as i you said, the Ghost Megalosaur would've the uper hand on the fighting Iguanodon...

True enough for the Ice-type Armagasaur, appart from the nice-looking aurora on the speculative skin sail...

Lapras isn't meant to be a plesiosaur tho ; but still, creating it some kind of "nemesis" could be a nice idea. We could picture trainers favorising either the high-speed offensive Ichtyosaur to the quiet charming Lapras depending on their styles ; it could also support a game mecanic as in Sun & Moon, the Ichtyosaur being able to dive/jump or move faster than the Lapras...

Anyway, i won't look for excuses, if i ever manage to create something i can be prood of, i'll publish it  

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Evodolka In reply to chubibear [2019-08-24 01:12:12 +0000 UTC]

happy to see you like the idea
still works the way i wanted too, as long as the Iguanadon can learn night slash

exactly, there is at least SOME freedom when it comes to types for the fossil Pokemon

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*looks at lapras' plesiosaur looking design*
could have fooled me, with the 4 flippers, long neck and being based off Nessy which was thought to be a plesiosaur
i thought it would give the a chance to say something like "lapras hasn;t changed much in millions of years" and then this Ichthyosaur one could be "they used to hunt Lapras millions of years back but then they went extinct, allowing lapras populations to thrive"

best of luck to you bro, here's hoping you make something you'r proud of

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chubibear In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-24 09:33:30 +0000 UTC]

If i'm not mistaken, Lapras's jus an overgrown sea turtle. But it does look like a plesiosaur ; with a shell... 

Did Ichtyosaur hunted plesiosur tho ? (I thought they were more of a specialised hunter targeting squids and smaller fish... To be honest, i don't know much about them.)

We would also need a Mosasaur-like fossil Pokemon too ! The tyrant of the sea. It would Obviously have the Strong Jaw ability, and maybe evolve from a water/rock type with a king's Rock into either a water/dragon, dark/water or dark/dragon Pokemon... Loosing the rock type thanks to a rock, to turn into the Apex sea predator (and go extinct because of a little cold...)

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Evodolka In reply to chubibear [2019-08-24 11:05:22 +0000 UTC]

back in gen 1 they seem to base a design off multiple sources instead of "it is just this 1 thing from myth"
so odds are it is a plesiosaur + turtle + sheep (going off the curled horn like ears)

some might have, there are some MASSIVE Ichthyosaurs, that might have eaten a small plesioaur or something
but then again it IS Pokemon, i imagine there is some freedom in behavior, doesn't even need to hunt, i t could just be "it liked being a dick t baby lapras"

if the ichthyosaur evolved then it COULD end up more mossasaur like, the 2 animals did seem very similar at some point, think it was early ichthyosaurs looked like mosasaurs
so it would be cool to mix both concepts together to make a Pokemon that starts off a small dolphin thing but then turns into a whale snake thing

i think it could have a different ability, strong jaw is good but i feel like it is a bit of a waste bin of "what do we give this thing based off a croc or snapping turtle"
i think instead it could be something like MOXIE or INTIMIDATE
if a fossil i think it could just be rock/dark, and have something that boosts water moves (maybe 1 that makes normal attacks water type)
if not then it could be water dark or something

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chubibear In reply to Evodolka [2019-08-24 22:47:16 +0000 UTC]

Well, thanks to you, i have a lot of thinking ahead ! Gonna wrap my head around it and maybe make some sketches... I'll ring you up if i ever post something bro 
see ya !

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Evodolka In reply to chubibear [2019-08-24 22:55:27 +0000 UTC]

your welcome, best of luck to you, man

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