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Description So there I was, minding my own business, trying to hold to the pledge to keep political discourse to a minimum for a while, when out of the blue I receive a comment from a woman who was, um… unhappy is how I’ll put it. She was unhappy, and being… oh, how shall I put this… difficult. Yes, that is the most polite way to say it; she was being a difficult woman, who was unhappy at me. She was unhappy and felt the need to be difficult because of comments I made two months ago on someone else’s page, where I showed my support for the page owner’s posting of a pro-Christmas picture. A pro-Christmas picture in December, it seems, made this difficult woman unhappy, and she felt the need to let me know about it. While doing so she did what liberals usually do, which is to assume they know Christianity better than Christians do, accuse me of having the negative qualities that she herself was displaying, deny that America was founded on Christian principles, etc. There was nothing new in her outrage that my support of Christmas caused in her, and I considered showing her comment the attention it deserved by not responding, but one particular word she used got me thinking…

Theist. Why is it, I wondered, that she was using that term while discussing a Christian holiday, on a posting made by a Christian, and while talking to a Christian? Seems that an awful lot of people who become outraged by things like Christmas, the Ten Commandments, the Pledge of Allegiance, roadside crosses to mark fatal crash sites, and so on, rant about theists. Why do they do that, when they are clearly angered at displays of Christianity? Why not just come out and say they hate the religion that has sparked their outrage and disgust? Why not have the guts to just come out and say it? When I’m talking about 9/11, I don’t blame “theists” for the terrorist attack, after all.

It is also worth noting that when called on it, these people will say that they hate all people of faith (and state it like they deserve a medal for doing so). Really? That is not, in my experience, the case. “Theist” haters will come up with pictures of lions eating Christians and say they are funny, but where are the “funny” pictures of Jews being gassed and thrown into Nazi ovens, or Buddhist monks on fire? They’ll draw every blasphemous depiction of Christ they can imagine, but where are the allegedly humorous cartoons of Anne Frank being murdered, or Muslim women being stoned to death, or Tibetan Buddhist nuns being raped? If they actually do hate all theists, then shouldn’t these things be just as amusing to them as the crucifixion of Jesus?

So I made a stamp. Not a very special stamp, but there you go. We all suffer from selective outrage, I suppose, and this deviation is about that: in this case, the hatred liberals have for Christianity over all other religions, and their bizarre (cowardly?) penchant for denying it. I’ll preemptively say that fine, not all liberals hate Jesus, that some enlightened people really do despise all forms of faith, and so on. I’m not seeking confrontation in posting this, but as it was spawned from a confrontation caused by my defense of my faith, I suppose I should expect some. Again, .

If anybody actually wants to use this stamp, please do, but also tell me so I can give you a .
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AaronsToybox [2023-03-25 13:59:30 +0000 UTC]

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DragonTamer2000 [2022-07-03 03:32:14 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham [2021-11-23 02:18:10 +0000 UTC]

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FlamesOfDestruction4 [2019-03-08 01:59:02 +0000 UTC]

Well that's a blatant statement.

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longipenus [2018-12-06 20:13:07 +0000 UTC]

At my school there is a tiny community of conservative christens (like at the most 10 people) me and my boyfriend are part of that group. All day at school I hear kids bashing christens. Sometimes I'm a little scared of the kids at my school, because they talk about the ''virtues'' of human population control (yes, you read that right)  so It is kind of daunting to stand up for my self, but I still do. 

Oh, BTW, could I use the stamp? just wondering...And I have no idea how to make a stamp either because I'm new here...

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ErnestPeckham In reply to longipenus [2021-09-10 20:03:12 +0000 UTC]

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ThunderSnowolf [2018-11-16 14:57:00 +0000 UTC]

Christmas is a pagan holiday, actually.

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ThunderSnowolf [2019-09-14 04:19:51 +0000 UTC]

No, it’s not.

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-11-23 02:18:51 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-11-23 06:08:03 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-11-23 21:09:31 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-11-24 01:21:55 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-11-24 22:02:07 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-11-26 03:54:34 +0000 UTC]

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slmccl808 In reply to Saiyanstrong [2022-08-22 19:44:59 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-11-26 23:19:10 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-11-28 15:33:35 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-11-30 01:26:36 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-11-30 21:39:59 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-12-01 22:04:17 +0000 UTC]

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Saiyanstrong In reply to ErnestPeckham [2021-12-07 01:04:38 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to Saiyanstrong [2021-12-07 01:20:18 +0000 UTC]

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FennecyAdoptsStamps [2018-07-22 22:22:22 +0000 UTC]

While I can see were you are coming from there is one thing I'd like too point out though. Christmas is actually a Pagan holiday not a Christian one, same thing with Easter too.

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Xenomaster [2018-06-06 22:16:39 +0000 UTC]

The reason you'd likely hear atheists bashing on Christianity is because you live in a very Christian country. I bash on Christianity because it is the biggest religion where I live and can affect me and others

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-27 03:27:12 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-27 06:39:24 +0000 UTC]

Well... technically speaking it is better, but a smidgid. If a Christian tries to bash atheism, then it's like a Jazz player trying to bash silence or a football player trying to bash sitting. Saying you are an atheist is just saying what you aren't. Christianity in the past and today has caused serious harm. Look no further than your own president making it so people can reject the LGBT communiy services, under religious freedom

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-27 14:08:22 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-27 15:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Well.. that's the thing.

Ignoring how some good things don't erase any bad things (just ask Dorian Gray), just because the religion has done good things, it doesn't mean the religion has a monopoly on those good things.
Such things as "do not steal" can be considered not as moral (bare with me) when coming from a holy book as it is just a pronouncement while a secular source would explain why.
The good things just edge it into "why bother with the religion" territory as you don't need the religion to do those good things.

And even then, the religion deals in absolutes. The aforementioned "do not steal" may not imply in some situations.
Under the definition of "take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it"; is it wrong for a child to steal an apple if they haven't had food in days? If my friend has an addiction or was suicidal/homicidal, is it wrong for me to take things that can harm them or others away? what about killing; Am I to be punished if I preform a mercy kill, assisted suicide or something as simple as taking a braindead person off life support? What about self defense?
Religions (the bible in particular) operates under moral absolutes, regardless of context

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-27 17:48:20 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-27 19:48:14 +0000 UTC]

Actually, the religion originally called for genocide, slavery, sexism and more. Contradicting the religion is a good thing

Then there's no real punishment if you can just get forgiveness. Even worse, those that are guaranteed to be punished are the non-believers as it is said in the bible that apostasy is the unforgivable sin

It's alright. Forgive the analogy; but even if you are the greatest speaker with a golden tongue, if you are advertising sh*t, then you are advertising sh*t (you can try to explain something to be good, but strong enough implications are not going to be ignored. A good example of this was when Matt Dillahunty explained how someone tried to explain "god hardened the pharaoh's heart" as the pharaoh's doing, when it says word for word "god hardened the pharaoh's heart").

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longipenus In reply to Xenomaster [2018-12-06 20:20:12 +0000 UTC]

We all would like to see proof of where the bible says that slavery, genocide, racism, sexism is OK...

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ErnestPeckham In reply to longipenus [2021-11-23 02:22:26 +0000 UTC]

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ErnestPeckham In reply to longipenus [2021-11-23 02:21:50 +0000 UTC]

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to longipenus [2019-01-31 00:36:11 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to longipenus [2018-12-06 21:19:18 +0000 UTC]

You are kidding right? It is super easy to find to the point where asking for proof is trivial

Leviticus 25:44-46 explains about buying men, women and children from foreigners, treating them as property. While they say not to do this to Israelite people, Exodus 21:2-6 explains how you can do so otherwise, which is give them a wife and kids. They are to remain your property even if the man goes free. Exodus 21:7-11 explains how to sell your daughter, what happens when the person you sold her to isn't pleased. Exodus 21:20-21 is about beating slaves, specifically how I don't get punished if they die later that week. Ephesians 6:5 and 1 Timothy 6:1-2, New Testament passages, explain how slaves should REMAIN slaves and not seek freedom... and Luke 12:47-48 says how slaves are punished for refusing being a slave.

Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21 commands the deaths of the Cannanites, the Amalekites in Exodus 17:13 and , the Midianites in Numbers 31:17-18, 10,000 Moabites in Judges 3:29, the people of Sihon in Deuteronomy 2:33-34, the entire population of Jericho in Joshua 6:21-27, 12,000 people in Ai in Joshua 8:22-25, Gibeonites, the people of Makkedah, the Libnahites, the people of Lachish, the Eglonites, the Hebronites and the Debirites in Joshua 10:10-39, and the Anakim in Joshua 11:21-23, all despite there being a commandment of not killing. This all also counts as racism as well, Genesis 38 has Er and Omar killed as their mother was a Caananite.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 says a woman should not speak in church and that she should ask her husband at home, husbands they are told to submit to in Colossians 3:18 and Ephesians 5:22-24 (along with Genesis 3:16, inducing giving birth painfully). Raping women because she is attractive is ok in Deuteronomy 21:11-1422:23-29 says a woman I raped is to be wed to me. Lot offers both his daughters to be raped in Genesis 19:8. Pretty much the latter half of Jacob and Esau has his cousins (yay, incest) and their handmaidens be his baby mommas. Leviticus 12:2 and Leviticus 12:5 tells of how long women are "unclean" after birth. 1 Timothy 2:12 even says a woman cannot be a boss of a man. Deuteronomy 25:5-10 says how a widow is passed onto her brother in law if she was childless. The two wives of Samson were seen as backstabbers, Job's wife told him to curse god, Lot's wife was turned to salt and his daughters date raped him to have kids
This also includes Exodus 21:7-11 as that is about selling your daughters and Numbers 31:17-18 said the virgin girls are to be kept as they saw fit.

Proof enough?

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-27 21:03:43 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-27 21:24:44 +0000 UTC]

And that is another problem as the Old Testament has the reason for needing Jesus while also having the ten commandments. And that not judging thing is ironic as the book has plenty to judge. There's even a passage that compares gay people to drunkards and idolaters as if that is the same level of bad

I think the biggest problem for me is that people attribute so much good to religion when you can either get the same result secularly or you can strip away anything unnecessary from religion and get the same result.

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-27 22:13:15 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 09:40:41 +0000 UTC]

Ignoring how the (assuming this is the roman-catholic version) first three are all the same commandment with little application, coveting is actually what keeps the economy going, some situations have breaking some rules being more preferable than keeping them (taking away harmful substances, lying to protect someone, etc), some rules are actually the opposite of how things should work (respecting parents should not be automatic but earned) and there are no rules against slavery or rape (the laws about adultery apply if the raper is married)?

Again, you can take away the actual religion and use what is actually working

I'm only having a friendly conversation

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-28 14:45:14 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 16:08:23 +0000 UTC]

If I am not married, I did not commit adultery

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-28 17:52:50 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 17:54:11 +0000 UTC]

You said the NT "fixes the adultery law" when it won't apply to non-married individuals

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-28 18:27:46 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 18:34:45 +0000 UTC]

Because adultery is "voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse."

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-28 18:48:39 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 18:50:42 +0000 UTC]

Example?

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-28 19:04:00 +0000 UTC]

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Xenomaster In reply to XxPristineFlipperxX [2018-08-28 19:23:41 +0000 UTC]

That is not only that thought crime, but it wouldn't apply to single individuals


It also says to de-eye yourself...

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XxPristineFlipperxX In reply to Xenomaster [2018-08-29 00:53:24 +0000 UTC]

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