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No this isn't the NX-Class U.S.S Enterprise, of the 22nd century. (BTW, could someone explain why the 22nd century w-5 ships weren't simply called the Enterprise Class, since she was the lead vessel in the series?)This is an Akira class ship, which would first appear in "Star Trek: First Contact", and would later be seen, spectacularly burning and exploding in the back ground of many a battle scene on Deep Space Nine. (Seriously, the Akira's were the redshirts of the fleet.)
I'm amused by the name of this ship class, as it is yet another nod, by the Star Trek production staff to Japanese anime, just like:
-The Enterprise-D's sister ship, U.S.S Yamato which was a reference to the fabled Space Battleship Yamato anime, as was the aliens from the obviously named Gamelan Five.
-The Ferenghi access code, "kayee yooree dahtayee", which was a reference to the characters Kei and Yuri of the "Dirty Pair" anime.
-The Nausican's, which were both low rent Klingon wannabes, and a shout out the the Hayao Miyazaki's "Nausicaa of the Valley Wind".
If you hear a name in a TNG era Star Trek episode, that sounds similar to something you've heard in anime, know that it is not a coincidence.
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Between the obvious otaku on the writing staff and the IDW crossovers (Green Lantern, Doctor Who, Aliens), I do not ever want to get crap for writing crossovers that I put obsessive amounts of research into to get them to make sense.
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First, have you read the Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover, entitled Primate Directive? In my opinion, it's the best of the IDW crossovers to date.
Second, you shouldn't have to apologize for doing your research. I have no problem with people who want to get things right.
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I am super-behind in reading or watching ANYTHING (other than Trek chronologically instead of air dates) since I'm kind of in a student-mommy hole, so no. But I'm interested in reading the Aliens crossover because my co-writer wrote just such a standalone novel in the late 90s/early 2000s. But the semester is almost over...I wonder how much Netflix and Star Trek Online I can cram into four months. ^_^
And thank you. People might say my OC is a Mary Sue, I say she's too flawed and I write in comic book tropes on a Star Trek playground...not like there's not a precedent for that either.
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I did hear about the Aliens crossover. I heard it would be with TNG, which strikes me as odd, since the darker, more strife ridden DS9 would seem a more appropriate setting.
I hope it's good, Not every crossover has lived up to the hype. (Star Trek/X-Men, anyone.)
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My co-writer did in fact write it in the aftermath of the Dominion War. Secret Dominion base, cut off once the war ended, remote area of a quadrant...Aliens that need ketracel white...^_^
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Maybe they shown blow up many times but hell no other Federation ship has that much Torpedo firepower than the Akira!!!
15 torpedo tubes!
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True. Would be nice to have seen them kicking bore butt.
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Indeed!
Weird how they choose this design for the NX class but with alterations to the aft part instead of going to the Daedalus type:
www.ditl.org/ship-page.php?Cla…
www.ditl.org/ship-pictures.php…
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I recall reading that the show runners for Enterprise had never watched The Original Series, and hence lacked the proper fundamental knowledge of its history. One line of dialogue in Balance of Terror pretty much negates the level of technology depicted in Enterprise.
SPOCK: "As you may recall from your histories, this conflict was fought, by our standards today, with primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels, which allowed no quarter, no captives. Nor was there even ship-to-ship visual communication.
Therefore, no human, Romulan, or ally has ever seen the other."
Beam weapons, viewing screens, and tranporters, should not even be in evidence on the NX-01.
And I'll stop here before I go down the warm, seductive rabbit hole of Enterprise bashing.
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I've only seen a few TOS episodes as it not really arrived to Hungary (TNG, Voyager, DS9 and NX did arrive) but by reading about the lore I agree with you. Though I think the NX series wasn't that bad, I wonder what will bring the new series?
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The NX-01's are bad designs, they just have no place in a prequel series.
In my opinion a blockier, less sophisticated looking craft, like the Daedalus, you mentioned, would be far more appropriate for the period depicted.
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Like some of these designs:
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
Especially the first the Europa class or the Dreadnought
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These are interesting.
The design of the Bonaventure here is quite a bit different than how it appears on the animated series.
vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/m…
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There are many Bonaventures posted on the site, the one you referring to is looks like this:
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
Other with this name are these:
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
The full list of Federation Star Trek ships of the site:
www.shipschematics.net/startre…
Many drawings are simple modifications of existing drawings but you can find many nice designs as well with a few quality ones. The site is on since the early 2000's so many designs are quite old now and not of high quality (large resolution)
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I considered the animated series designs canon, since some of them would end up in the remastered effects shots, when they updated original series effects for the 40th anniversary.
www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sch…
www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sch…
BTW, the remastering that was done 10 years ago was way better than the "Greedo shot first" Star Wars remastering. They story was never changed, they just added in the ships that were described in dialog on the show, but were unable to film originally, due to production costs.
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Indeed. I was surprised to discover that the TOS Star Trek barely had 3 seasons, yet it created such a fan base and culture!
That ship is listed on the DITL:
www.ditl.org/ship-page.php?Cla…
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I am always fascinated when I encounter people who are only now encountering the original series.
It's nice to see that new fans, who did not grow up with the show, are still engage by its story telling. It's quite a testament to the quality of its production.
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It's not like I encounter it now, I've seen a few episodes some years ago but never seen the entire show nor did it entirely arrived here. While the story is good, the show is way too old it's a bit annoying to see all the props which are made from mostly paper or textile, like the early episodes of TNG, it greatly reduces the immersion feeling in me.
Also we (well my parents) seen a similar show which was German made:
Space Patrol – The Fantastic Adventures of the Spaceship Orion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumpatr…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJI4J9…
it was dubbed in Hungarian as well:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEHNl2…
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Well I can't fault you if you find the dated props an impediment to a successful suspension of disbelief. While I still find many of the gadgets portrayed in Star Trek well conceived and prophetic of many modern innovations, I grew up looking at them, and have hence developed an invulnerable armor of nostalgia, regarding humbleness of their origins.
Personally, I think it best to look at the original Star Trek in comparison to other science fiction programs of the same age, like Lost in Space, or Planet of the Giants. Despite its dated trappings, there is a gravitas to Star Trek that he other, more juvenile programs sorely lacked. I think it was this more mature and dramatic sensibility that unltimately transcends the fact that Doctor McCoy did surgery, using salt shakers as futuristic scalpels.
Space Patrol is very interesting. It amuses me how different groups that have no interaction can come up with similar ideas. For instance, I recently learned that the toy company Mego was developing a line of military action figures, based around a fictional anti terrorism strike force, at almost the same time Hasbro was developing its now legendary G.I. Joe reboot.
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It's not the gadgets like phaser pistols, tricorders (were they called them in TOS or it had a different name?) communicators, transporters etc that got me alienated on the cotnrary those and the ship designs which caught me, what aliented or what I dislike are the props: stones, alien costumes, caves etc which look like made from paper.
Something like the personal shield effect of the first Borg drone beamed aboard the Enterprise though that effect is still much better compared to what we seen in David Lynch's Dune but that is due to the limitations of computer graphics back then!
Speaking of which didn't thought of drawing a Borg cube or Tactical cube in super deformed mode?
I know there were an earlier Lost in Space movie but this was the first one I've seen and I really like it (Especially the music!):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsmacm…
Indeed it's called something like convergent evolution I've noticed this in real word warship designs as well where two nations who are at war with each other and does not have information on the other's ship designs developed the same kind of vessel!
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NX is the hull type with each ship being its own subclass. each of the NXs were named after the space shuttles. No idea why they did it that way but they did.
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ISTR there was also a mythical element "Keiyurium", also a Dirty Pair ref, and in one early TNG episode, there was some odd fighting dojo they set up in the holodeck, and the walls were decorated with stylized Japanese text with anime character names on it. I think a lot of that traces back to Michael Okuda.
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Wow, thanks for the info!!!
Now can anyone tell me why ships of Archer's era weren't simply called the Enterprise Class?!
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Bureaucracy.
What I don't get is why they avoided the ultimate Fannish ref by not having Archer say "Oh boy!" after being the first successful human teleportation.
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The Tech Manual, which Okuda contributed to, said that keiyurium was an essential part the holodeck tech. Which tells me why it was always malfunctioning. ;-}
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This is the ship that I fly in StarTrek Online. It's a fun ship with the ability to pump out photon torpedoes like nobody's business. The moment I saw the thumbnail, I got warm fuzzies.
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I'd like to play this game, but I fear it would sabotage the progress I've made this month toward reestablishing my drawing habit.
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This is true, it totally would suck up your free time. But man, it was made for you. Across all my different characters, I fly the modernized versions of the Akira, Olympic, Galaxy-X, Ferengi D'Kora, and Klingon Somraw. It's a lot of fun.
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Wow! Thanks for the history lesson. Been an anime and manga fan nearly as long as you--loved all the series you cited but never caught the Star Trek homages. Although I grew up watching Star Blazers long before I ever knew just what the Yamato was!
MJE
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