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ChrisY-DA [2020-07-25 15:44:39 +0000 UTC]
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KantiaCartography In reply to ChrisY-DA [2020-07-25 17:19:53 +0000 UTC]
Eh, canโt remember. Made this 8 years ago. Was mostly focused on pissing off my Vietnamese friend.
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grisador [2015-07-15 21:13:46 +0000 UTC]
I only see Very Angry Japans...
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feichengyuan [2015-03-13 14:50:17 +0000 UTC]
Long live the PRC!!!
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Warsie [2013-05-03 22:04:32 +0000 UTC]
Well:
1. The Vietnamese would resist FORCEFULLY to being annexed into ANOTHER Chinese state. There was enough issues and tensions over that.
2. DPRK would be transfered to South Korea. DPRK is not exacly digestible by China. Korea has just as long a distinct national identity as Vietnam and has a good history of resistance against Japanese Imperialism, which can easily transfer to China
3. 'Upper Mongolia' would be OUTER Mongolia. Actually they'd just be 'Mongolian Autonomous Region' like Tibet and Xinjiang.
4. LOL Jacking Sakhalin.
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KantiaCartography In reply to Warsie [2013-05-04 00:25:20 +0000 UTC]
Once again, one of my oldest maps, so its not really all that likely. But Ill explain my way of thinking at the time.
1. Im well aware of the power of Viet nationalism. One of my best friends is a Viet (literally his Vietnamese name is "Viet")and he hates this map. I was thinking that is communist Vietnam underwent a major economic depression, and the current leader was not to anti-Chinese, that the nation might have no choice but to become an autonomous region of China, although unhappily, rather than take aide from a capitalist nation like the USA. Not all that likely though.
2. Basically with North Korea China just got tired of it barking at the USA, its trade partner, so when the government finally went to hell it stepped in.
3. I agree, but I didnt know at the time.
4. I would probably give that to Japan instead now adays
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KantiaCartography In reply to Warsie [2013-05-06 23:19:47 +0000 UTC]
Sakhalin was never really under nominal Chinese control, unlike Russia and Japan. I think that Japan would pay quite. a. bit. for that island, and it would help with population pressures.
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zhangxin1024 [2012-09-16 12:01:59 +0000 UTC]
ๅคชๅฃฎ่งไบ๏ผ
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poasterchild [2012-05-17 22:45:35 +0000 UTC]
I think the Vietnamese might have something to say about this. And WTF is Jewian?
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KantiaCartography In reply to poasterchild [2012-05-18 19:59:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah! I made this pretty much just to annoy my Vietnamese friend. Jewian is just a slight name change of Jewish
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poasterchild In reply to KantiaCartography [2012-05-18 23:00:33 +0000 UTC]
OK, I get the idea of ribbing your Vietnamese buddy. But why Jewian? I am just curious as to why you'd invent a Chinese province with that name.
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KantiaCartography In reply to poasterchild [2012-05-19 02:31:10 +0000 UTC]
I didnt think that "Jewish" sounded very "Oriental" so I just... changed it
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poasterchild In reply to KantiaCartography [2012-05-19 02:34:21 +0000 UTC]
But why anything relating to Jews or Jewish at all? That's my question.
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poasterchild In reply to KantiaCartography [2012-05-19 02:53:27 +0000 UTC]
Oh, OK. There was/is one in the Russian Far East, but I thought you were referring to China. I guess you're assuming in your map that China expands to take over that part of Russia. You might know that at one time there was a large ethnically Chinese Jewish community in Kaifeng, in Henan Province, China. There are only a couple of descendants left there today, and they do not practice Judaism. The old synagogue is gone, but there is a museum. There are today ethnic Chinese Muslims living in Kaifeng, which was the capital of the Song Dynasty, and they have a mosque, and their own schools, but the teachers are provided by the municipal government. I spent 10 days there a couple of years back, and was amazed at how much we are not taught about the ethnic diversity and complexity of China. If you're not familiar with this history, given your interest, you might want to do some reading. If you do know of this, forgive me for presuming that you did not.
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KantiaCartography In reply to poasterchild [2012-05-19 14:38:16 +0000 UTC]
And since I did not know of this, because I prefer the history of the Western Hempishpere, I thank you. And yes, in this map China has expanded to include parts of eastern Russia
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kyuzoaoi [2012-04-07 09:00:06 +0000 UTC]
The Vietnamese, the Mongols, and the North Koreans would not like it...
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Warsie In reply to KantiaCartography [2013-05-03 22:06:09 +0000 UTC]
Vietnam and Koreans have a recent history of violently resisting Imperialism harder than Tibetans. I mean the Tibetans did not have much of a national identity until Han encroachment, and i dunno about Uiyghurstan
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Warsie In reply to KantiaCartography [2013-05-06 23:08:47 +0000 UTC]
well...for a period of time. it'd have to be a protectorate or something temporarily. Prolly nominally a UN trusteeship.
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KantiaCartography In reply to Warsie [2013-05-06 23:15:47 +0000 UTC]
Just admit it though, most North Koreans outside of the government and military would rather be under Chinese control than by their own. Vietnamese, now I think that they could build a government for themselves easily enough.
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Hillfighter [2012-04-07 03:50:24 +0000 UTC]
Very imaginative, but unrealistic.
If China were to expand they probably wouldn't annex regions outright. It's more likely that they would set up a number of puppet border states like North Korea is today. The most they might then do is bind these states formally to China via some sort of latter day Warsaw Pact defense treaty.
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KantiaCartography In reply to Hillfighter [2012-04-07 04:27:29 +0000 UTC]
FYI I made this map almost soley for the purpose of annoying my Vietnamese friend
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Warsie In reply to KantiaCartography [2013-05-03 22:05:11 +0000 UTC]
oh god lol. that's why XD
explains partitioning vietnam then.
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MaragrizX In reply to KantiaCartography [2013-01-22 09:19:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure, but I think Vietnam was a territory under China at one point.
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KantiaCartography In reply to MaragrizX [2013-01-22 21:47:36 +0000 UTC]
Under a couple of the dynasties. Maybe the Zhou or Han. Dont remember. Honestly, I just did this to piss off my Vietnamese friend.
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AngelBlue01 [2012-04-06 22:32:40 +0000 UTC]
I don't think South Korea or Japan would ever stand for having China right next door like that, much less losing that territory without a war.
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AY-Deezy [2012-04-06 12:50:41 +0000 UTC]
Xinjiang -> Eastern Turkestan, please.
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azivegu [2012-04-06 11:08:52 +0000 UTC]
if it survives untill then. The chinese leadership is already breaking at the seems
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KantiaCartography In reply to azivegu [2012-04-06 14:49:20 +0000 UTC]
I dont have all the history thought up yet, but I do know that the PRC, in my timeline, has become much more capitalistic and has become more and more like the USA. Most of the communism has leaked out already
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KantiaCartography In reply to MaragrizX [2013-01-22 21:45:49 +0000 UTC]
Oh gosh, this map is so old. I dont know what I was thinking when I made it.
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