Godzilla713 [2016-08-22 16:00:56 +0000 UTC]
I felt sorry for the old Boomerang. Even the old Buffalo AKA Flying Coffin by pilots did shoot down some of the Japanese before they were shot down.
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kanyiko In reply to Godzilla713 [2016-08-22 16:53:17 +0000 UTC]
Actually, while it wasn't that good a fighter, it was still a good combat aircraft - surprisingly few were lost in combat, in fact. According to the listings, these were:
A46-38: destroyed by an enemy bomb at Merauke, Papua New Guinea on September 9th 1943;
A46-85: hit tree while strafing enemy positions at Galodie village, New Britain, killing the pilot on May 5th 1944;
A46-88: shot down by friendly fire (US forces) at Nassau Bay, New Guinea on July 5th 1943 (first Boomerang lost in combat)
A46-94: crashed during message drop over Samarai, Papua New Guinea on December 25th 1943;
A46-109: missing, possibly shot down by a force of 7 Japanese fighters near Finschhafen on November 26th 1943;
A46-112: shot down by enemy fighters near Hapoi, New Guinea on September 6th 1943;
A46-116: missing, lost on a recon in the Gusap area, New Guinea on May 2nd 1944;
A46-119: mid-air collision with A46-148 over Finistere Range, New Guinea on April 26th 1944;
A46-132: missing, possibly shot down by a force of 7 Japanese fighters near Finschhafen on November 26th 1943;
A46-134: crashed into hill during combat ops in the Mount Kubari area, New Guinea on December 31st 1944;
A46-136: shot down by USAAF P-38 Lightning in friendly fire incident (despite being under escort of other Boomerangs and P-40s) on November 15th 1943; USAAF pilot (Lt, later Major Gerald R Johnson, 9 FS) accredited with an Australian 'kill' along his eventual 22 Japanese kills...
A46-137: crashed into sea during tactical reconnaissance at Hansa Bay, New Guinea on June 27th 1944;
A46-148: mid-air collision with A46-119 over Finistere Range, New Guinea on April 26th 1944;
A46-149: hit tree during tactical reconnaissance and crashed in the Angetji area, Papua New Guinea on November 17th 1944;
A46-159: crashed into sea during cover patrol on May 29th 1944;
A46-181: shot down by Japanese ground fire, West Wewak, New Guinea on January 17th 1945;
A46-189: crashed during target marking on enemy positions near Marawaka, Bougainville on January 11th 1945;
A46-216: crashed into sea off Bougainville on a return from a mission on February 6th 1945;
There were also a fair share lost in the usual training, take-off and landing accidents, but I didn't include these in this list - so 18 lost to combat out of 250 built is... not bad for what basically was just an interim type developed out of a trainer, I guess.
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Godzilla713 In reply to kanyiko [2016-08-22 17:41:45 +0000 UTC]
I just mean that it never got a kill. Even though it took its close support role beautifully. There was a story of race horse that never won any race. A jockey says ever horse has race where all but one horse got in a pile up and won the race. I thought it was cute little plane. The Brewster Buffalo was a horrible under armed and under powered shot down a few planes. I mean they shot down some planes on their way to Midway.
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kanyiko In reply to Godzilla713 [2016-08-22 23:02:55 +0000 UTC]
You're forgetting the wonderful work the Finnish Buffaloes did - 477 kills for a total of just 19 Buffaloes lost, and 36 Buffalo aces.
That said, the Buffalo also did some outstanding work outside of the Finnish Air Force - there were four Commonwealth aces on the type, all during the defence of Singapore. Other than the RAF (in Singapore), the type was also used by the Royal Navy (although landbased, in Crete), the Dutch (in South-East Asia), the Australians, and the New Zealanders.
Alas, one thing that is often forgotten about the Buffalo, is that the export types were generally inferior to the original F2A-1 (which is the type delivered to the Finnish Air Force) - the later export types (B-239 & B-339) were all equiped with the dysmal Wright G-105, which was some 200 hp short of the standard engine (i.e. 1000 hp instead of 1200 hp); also these were fitted with additional armour plates and self-sealing fuel tanks which weighed the aircraft down even further. It are these aircraft which were mercilessly slaughtered over Singapore, and which cemented its unjust reputation as 'worst fighter of World War II'.
The US Marines F2A-3 examples which served over Midway were even worse - while equiped with the more powerful Wright R-1820-40, it weighed over 500 lbs more than the F2A-2, practically negating any advantage gained by the more powerful engine. As such, they were no match for the Mitsubishi A6M2...
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