HOME | DD
Kasumi9 — Teh Sally Basic Design v.1
Published: 2005-11-02 07:40:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 2495; Favourites: 73; Downloads: 137
Redirect to original
Description
uuhhh... X3 lolzy Plz read before commenting, kay thanksI sort of came up with my own design, as anime-fied as it is, but it is yet still changing. This was so far, the best full body sort of "study" that I'd come up with. This is her original design with my own little tweaks to the outfit (no britches this time) Sometimes I like to put her in some cool cargo pants, but face it, not to many of those anthros wear a whole lot of clothing, and I really wanted to stick to her VERY BASIC look. XD Certain proportions and stuff are skewed and exaggerated on purpose seeing as she's an anthro-ish/furry. Oh and I added the arm band.. not sure why.. I just did. I really liked how the coloring on her legs and that left arm came out, as well as the metallic band. My only gripe is that at this point I don't really have a grasp on rendering furry textures, so instead she's a bit too shiny for my liking, but whatever, I'll figure it out for future things. But for the record, I made a point to add shine, to emphasize more of the "hair" or "fur" highlighting effects, versus the very bare highlighting that might appear on bare skin. eh, my coloring is still a little rusty.
And for some stupid reason flaming is PROMINENT around this character. So, DON'T. DO. IT. The childish banterings that go on in the Sonic fandom really are pointless and I don't care for any of it to make its way to my page.
Anyways, as I said before this is a character design that I'm still modeling to my own tastes. This is something I've been working on for a long time and finally found the time to finish it and post it up. Looks kind of like a pop-ish Japanese sort of thing. Oh, and she isn't taking her vest off despite my inability to not make it look like that. XP
Sally(C) DiC/Archie whoever...
background tones ~screentones
*edited for your enjoyment*
Related content
Comments: 74
I need to slap myself on the wrist for not commenting or faving this before.
*slap* OWIE!
And lawwwwl. "Lolzy"? My sweetie created a new word X3 I love it.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I make up a variety of new words on a constant basis.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Nice anime tweak on Sally! She looks really pretty - a little softer than her SatAM self, but I'm guessing that's intended. The arm ring works fine, I can even imagine Sally would like wearing a little feminine things like jewelry sometimes, even though her life usually doesn't invite to it.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
yeah, it was more or less intended. I like to think that she has a little bit more of a softer side at times (but not TOO soft X3). As for the ring I'm not really sure why I added it.. just decoration I guess. I like arm bands.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeah, I kinda like them too ^^ The metal shine looks great as well.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
love it, im a big Sally fan.^^thats so "sexy" with her clothes^^XD and her expresion is so kool^^+fav
NICE job!
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Nice Sally pic. 
I never did understand why Sally was so hated personally.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
It's just a stupid jealous fan-girl-ism mostly. They hate her because she isn't Amy Rose, despite the fact they exist in two completely different continuities. And it doesn't help that the comic has completely destroyed her original character.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I didn't read the comic until recently, so I can't say I see how much they destroyed Sally's character.
Acctually, I like both Amy, and Sally. (I have more respect for Sally though.)
I don't see why people feel like they have to like one character, and then hate the other so passionatelly.
But it's not just the comic, I've seen people who've never read the comic, who hate her.
I guess it's 'cause she's not a big cutesy, teeny-bopper, girlly-girl like most of the other female Sonic characters... And therefore she comes off as a "bitch" to them, because she's not afraid to give Sonic a piece of her mind.
One reason I've seen people say they don't like her is because she's not an "official" Sega-made Sonic character. But then they should hate Amy to, because she wasn't orrigenally made by Sega either.
Amy Rose first appeared in the Japanese 1992 Sonic manga, before Sega redesigned her, and used her in Sonic CD. How does that make her any different then Sally?
My favorite excuse for hating Sally is because she's "naked." That always cracks me up. 
👍: 0 ⏩: 3
They proboly still count Amy as an actual character because she came from Japan. Still stupid but proboly true >>
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
That wouldn't surprise me.
But of course these Japan-worshipping fan-girls/boys should remember not all of the Sonic games were made 100% in Japan. Look at all of the "english" names in Sonic 2 for instance. Not to mention Sonic Spinball was made 100% in the USA. Should that meen these games shouldn't exist, and are taboo because they arn't 100% made in Japan?
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
and Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. But then, maybe they DON'T like those games. Who knows? Japan freaks scare me sometimes XD
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, same here. I once got into an argument with this one guy who said the "Super Mario Bros. Super Show" sucked, because it wasn't an "anime." (If you know me, I adore that old show)
He said something like an American cartoon using Japanese characters in such a way is "evil" or something, and that the SMBSS butchered the "Japanese Mario legacy." (or something wierd like that) And then he went on about how much better it would of been been if it was an anime.
Yet the Japanese did make a REALLY cheesey Ninja Turtle anime, and the TMNT are American-made. You don't see me complaining about them having the turtles power up, and become superheroes with power stones of some sort.
(That's much worse then say, having King Bowser dress as a pirate, or cowboy ala Yosmite Sam) lol
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
"Japanese Mario legacy"
IT'S A FAT ITALIAN STEREOTYPE! Infact, there WAS a Mario Anime. I've seen some of it. It's decent but the animators kept dressing him up as a Mexican. At least the SMBSS knew what Mario was. >> Honestly, some people. This is proboly why you see so many anime fans vicously against Disney despite the godfather of Manga and Anime (Osamu Tezuka) was such a huge Disney fan.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, I've seen some of the Mario anime movie. It's not bad, but it's about no more as "true" to the "Japanese Mario game legacy" as the Super Show was.
(Come to think of it, the Super Show at least made more sence.) But apparently people would exept it more just because it's Japanese, and that's where the Mario games came from.
(Kinda like how some Sonic fans automatically hate the US Sonic toons, yet adore "Sonic X," just because it's anime.)
I think so many people are against Disney, because it's what's "in" now so to speak. I meen, I admit I don't like some of their recent buisness decisions, and stuff... (Such as making a straight-to-video sequal to every Disney movie made. Walt probilly wouldn't approve of that.)
But I still have respect for the company itself, sence they still make decent movies, not to mention they've innovated, and help make the animation industry what it is today.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Walt DEFINETLY wouldn't approve. He did not like the idea of sequels. If you're into animationa at all, yeah. You've gotta at least respect what Disney did for it. I can understand not being into their style, but you gotta at least respect them. I'm not too happy with Disney's recent stuff either, but they still make a kickass theme park
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, Disneyland is always fun.
I saw this one guy say Disney sucked, because he claimed Walt was a "racist." Even if that is true, truth is practically everyone back then was a li'l bit racist. (Even non-white people) I'm not justifying racism, but it's true. Walt would of been just a product of his time. (I meen, it's not like he was a nazi, or anything.)
I'm kinda sick of people always try to make Walt out to be a "horrible man." I meen, true he was no saint, (Honestly, tell me who on earth is perfect?) but I think he wasn't a horrible, hatefull man. You can see it in his works. Alot of people who acctually knew him said he was a nice guy. And you can't blame him for some of the crap the Disney company is doing now.
(He must be spinning in his grave for "Cinderella 2.")
Of course, it's easy to say whatever you want about somebody when they're "dead."
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Drives me crazy too. Even if he was racist, what's that have to do with what he did for a living? The man grew up in 1901 Missouri, he could've come out alot worse XD People also just LOVE making good people look bad. Especially when they're dead. Just look at the Kennedys and Princess Diana. Anyhow, as for the racist thing, you ever hear that song in Avenue Q "Everyone's a little bit racist?" I think of that whenever someone calls him that
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I never heard that song, is it like humorous, or something?
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
VERY! Avenue Q is a show on Broadway that is an adult parody of Sesame Street. Talking about things that Sesame Street definetly would not, but in a Sesame Street style. It's also called a song called "The internet is for Porn" XD Look it up on Youtube.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Oh, I think I might of seen some of that somewhere. (They had puppets, and people right?) Is that the one with the song "Life sucks," or something like that?
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Cool to see someone more who knows that about Amy, and knows that much about Sally's "versions", too! 
I can't see the point in debating characters' "official"-ness in different senses. I think those guys have a problem standing for what they like themselves so they have to "justify" it somehow. Which, of course, means they have to stop anyone else from enjoying other characters or plot ideas. '-^
Amy could be a very interesting character if she matured, but she doesnt seem to. (The original)Sally is a complex character, which is a plus by me but a minus by some people. I guess.
I draw all of my Sonic females naked. I'm waiting to be flamed.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I got that info on Amy off of Wikipedia.
Is that "Sonic Mars" game you're refering to that one they say was suppost to be based off the SatAM cartoon? I think I heard they were considering making a game based off that continuty, but never did for some reason. (Probilly due to the cartoon's cancellation.)
But yeh, I agree with you on pretty much everything you said. Sally, and some of the other SatAM chars were more complex then most of the ones that are more accepted as "official." I guess that's what makes the Sonic SatAM ones unique. I think some purist fans need to calm down abit, and not obbsess with what they like to much.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Sure seems like it, yeah, if yet with one tweak or another. The Xtreme page has a brief summary of it: [link] and SonicCulT [link] should have the script draft uploaded, but I can't seem to load the page right now so I don't know. They won the bid for it, anyway.
SatAM is unique, to me not only for its characters but for its heart.
The first games pretty much didn't even have any character introspection except Sonic's motto in life, any little trips into people's angsts and minds came with the later additions where they started new storylines as well. The old games did provide a story, and geography of sorts, but left most of the personalities to your imagination. On the other hand, I feel they put a lot more suggestions of deeper personalities in my brain.
And yes, I think some people take it far too personal if you don't like their favourites. I guess for them it's very important to "be right". All purism tends to be a bit over the top.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Indeed it does.
I noticed that like in Nintendo's games, Sega normally doesn't give major in-depth stories behind their games, and characters. (Even in more story-based games like "Sonic Adventure.") That doesn't really bother me, sence as you say, it does leave alot up to your own imagination.
I think some fans just take things to seriouslly, and accept one storyline as "cannon," and forget the whole point of the games isn't suppost to be story, or who their favorite character pairing is.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I accept all official storylines as canon(such as the differing storylines between SatAM and Archie), and all official couples as well, each in their own context. (Sonally is canon to SatAM and Archie, no pair at all is canon to the games and Sonamy is canon to Sonic X) That said, everyone is in my eyes free to play with ideas that are non-canon.
One interesting thing about the stories is that while the Western manuals for the old games had close to no story, the Japanese ones actually had a background and named the islands(not to mention Sonic's friends!). The manuals also contradict each other. For instance, in Tails Adventures the US version says Sonic and Tails are taking a friendly break from each other while in the Jap version Tails Adventures takes place before they even met.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, they did state that Tails Adventures takes place before he met Sonic in "Sonic Adventure DX's" unlockable minigame collection. I also remember the Sonic CD manual called Amy "Princess Sally," yet the Archie comic called her "Amy" still. (And so did every game after that)
But I pretty much accept the cartoons, comics, and games to be their own seperate universes. I don't consider any of 'em better, or more true then the others. The "game" one might be considered more as "canon," yet as you state the games' stories do contradict each other in some places.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Confusing again with manuals... Back then, the Japanese fans didn't know of Sally and I can't see how the Western fans would have known Amy of the manga. I guess SEGA just tossed in a name they hoped to be familiar. It doesn't ease up the confusion that Sally started out pink in Archie either. (man, I had trouble getting used to her brown fur at first! But now I've tripped over, I like her better the SatAM way.)
Like you said, StH and SMarioB games really never had much of a plot. I don't feel they need one. I need one if I intend to write a fanfic, but that's different. The games themselves don't have to have any complicated history, as long as they're fun to play.
And still, there's a lot of mythology behind both how South Island, Westside Island and Angel Island got (and lost) their stones of power. I haven't found anything on why there were emeralds on Cocoa Island though... Ah, plotholes to fill...
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I think Sally was technically orange in her first appearence before turning pink. (Wasn't she?) I don't remember.
And yeh, I agree. The story isn't the most important thing in a game. (It can be entertaining though. Especially in RPGs) I sometimes wish some players wouldn't obbsess to much with a game's story. Some gamers feel a game is no good if it doesn't have a good enough story for them.
I always thought the chaos emeralds on Cocoa Island (From Tails Adventure, right? I like that game.) were the same ones from Sonic's South Island home.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
My #1 depicts Sally with red fur, orange facial markings, pastel yellow tummy and blond hair - and blue eyes and nose. In #2 she changes to pink fur, vanilla/pinkish markings on face and tummy, and black hair, but her nose and eyes stay the same.
If there is no story, I make one up! I think my brain's wired to fill in plotholes. Could that be why I love Biker Mice so much?
I'm really puzzled about the emeralds. At first I thought it was just seven of them. I mean, Sonic and Eggman could both have missed the seventh one in Sonic1, right? But then, they look different in Sonic1 and Sonic2, and the Sonic2 story presents Westside Island's old stones in a way that makes me think they're another set.
It's tricky too, since TA is a GG game. They seem to be separated from the 16-bit series. I've decided to fuse TA into my fanfic because I like the dimensions it hands to Tails's character, but I'm not sure if it was intended to be a part of the 16-bit storyline.
(yes, good game btw. I've only just tried it, but I love it.)
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I think Sally looks best with her current colors. They seem to make her look more appealing.
If you think all that emerald stuff is confusing, get this. The arcade game "Sonic the Fighters" had 8 chaos emeralds!
I think Sega, and Nintendo arn't concerned with continity errors in their games as long as the game itself is good.
It seems they are trying to make sence out of some things in their past games though.
BTW I have Tails Adventure in "Sonic Gems Collection." I even finished it, and found all of the items in it. I'd say it's the best GG Sonic game.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeah, I like Sally's chestnut 'n' brown colors better myself now, after getting used to them. Also, it sort of blends well that Sonic (and uncle Chuck) are the only ones with strange colors.
Sonic Fighters: If I get trakker (president of ) right, there would actually have been nine, had Honey the Cat made it to the US machines!
Yeah, I played TA on my friend's collection. I really love it. I only made the first walk through the first level so far, though. We need another vid-game night!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I acctually remember dieing several times in the first level of TA the first time I played it. lol (Darn spikes!)
I've heard of Honey the cat. I wonder why they never included her. (Some fans say she might've been a test character.) I guess Sega didn't want to have many characters to fight in the game.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
She's sortof an in-joke, she's named after Honey of Fighting Vipers since FV used the same arcade engine as StF. She was on the Japanese machines, but when the arcade went to the US, she was removed.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I heard of that. I never heard that she was in the Japanese version of the game though. According to most sources I've seen, she wasn't in the Japanese version either.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I'm trusting trakker on that one... 
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, it is. I think people just always assume the Japanese versions of all games always get more stuff then we do.
Then again, it is true in some cases... (Like Sonic Gems Collection for one thing... The Japanese version has the Sega game "Streets of Rage," but it was removed from the US version for some strange reason.)
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
They'd probilly be very hard to find by now unfortunatelly.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
hey, I didn't know that about Amy. That's interesting. I bet most of those haters don't know that either. :/ Because you're right, it doesn't really make her any different than Sally. I like the naked thing too. That's really funny. Our pets don't wear clothes, should we be pissed off about that too? And as for the "official" business... Sega must have had to approve of her and the rest of the SatAM characters in the first place.. so technically she isn't completely outside of them... in fact, wasn't there a character in one of the more obscure games named "Princess Sally"? I'm pretty sure there was, but she looked completely different. It's possible I'm thinking of the Fleetway comics, because Sally's appearance in those were completely different from the one we were given in the States. But that original idea had to come from somewhere, and I do think the SatAM people took a somewhat "official" character and changed her around to the Sally we got.
And to be fair, I have no real problem with Amy albeit she's a tad annoying at times. I don't hate her, and I don't necessarily object to the pairing.. but I just prefer Sally over her anyways because she's more of a female character to relate to. What honestly turns me off from her and that pairing is the attitude of the people who prefer that one (for the most part.. I'm sure not all of them are crazy), because they come off as idiotic, jealous little children.
As for the comic, Sally has changed radically from the early issues till now. She used to be the assertive, strong-willed, intelligent leader that she was in SatAM; the one who would keep Sonic in line and match his attempts at wit and bravado with her own endearing sarcasm. Now in the comic she's completely an uninvolved background character and faded into that role with much fussing and completely out-of-character pouting and mood swings. Those of us who are in tune with the older Sally from the golden days are hoping that the recent shift in writers at Archie (who thankfully are fans of the SatAM continuity) will start to bring back the old Sally who was an active participant in the Freedom Fighters.
Phew, I could go on about this for days.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I don't know about a Princess Sally in the games, but I do recall Princess Sally, and some of the other SatAM characters did get a cameo appearence as trapped animals in "Sonic Spinball." (The game was developed in the US around the same time the cartoons were being made, so they put in some references to them.) And I remember Amy Rose was refered to as "Princess Sally" in the Sonic CD instruction manual.
I think Sally was based off the squirrels you rescue from Robotnik's robots in the game.
But yeh, some people can be a bit to obbsessive with their favorite character pairing. It gets really rediculous. I once saw somebody say they hated that new char Blaze the cat, just because they thought she was going to end up with Sonic at the end of the game "Sonic Rush." (Wich BTW never happens.)
And yeh, it's a shame most of the orrigenal SatAM chars barelly seem to get any dialogue anymore, so it's not just Sally. But with so many characters in the comic, new, and old it's probilly hard to write for so many characters. Here's hoping they get better parts in the future though. Especially Sally.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Heey, I think that's what I was thinking of. The Sonic spinball thing.. and I do remember a reference to Amy at one point being called Sally in the manual. Thanks for the info!
I think part of the problem is that they've tried to add too many new characters and its made things confusing. Most of them really don't get used except as plot devices, coming in to say something radically important when they're needed. They've sort of shoved the original group aside, which is a shame, because it's why I read it in the first place. Hope (the human girl who is Robotnik's niece) is one of these characters, who happens to be a character I do like, mostly because I enjoy the potential dynamics between her and Shadow, and even between her and her brother (Snively)... unfortunately Archie doesn't take advantage of these possibilities, and she's become a character only used to say something profound at the right time. It's why I've resorted to using those characters and writing my own continuity. Meh... Although I did notice something interesting at the end of the latest issue.. think it's #163.
But to be fair, I doo think the introduction of completely new characters is interesting, but there's a point where it becomes too much, especially when they start to overshadow the main characters. The one exception for me is the introduction of the Guardians and the supporting echidna characters who came around during the short-lived Knuckles series. Now those are a group of characters who I though were extremely interesting and fairly well-strung out.
As long as they don't completely kill of the original Freedom Fighters... I'll probably still keep reading... and hopefully things will start to get better.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yeh, I have nothing against adding new characters, but there's plenty of pretty pointless characters in the comic. (Nic the Weasel?! Why does Archie feel they need to give every Sonic char siblings, or something?)
I liked the Snivley mini-story in #162 where he talks to Hope, just before rejoining Robotnik. It shows he does have somewhat of a heart, and cares for his little sister.
It's also nice to get a more in-depth look into a classic SatAM character's head. 
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Yea, Nic? Whatever. I didn't mind Hope though because at least Snively is an important character.. but Nack?! What's he in, like 10 issues?.
Oh yeah, it was 162, not 163.. but yeah, I thought that story was a good move. Here's hoping indeed that things can fall into place at least a little bit.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
As much as I like Nack, I don't understand how it helps the plot giving him a sister.
And yeh, I hope so to.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Oooh, tis loveley. Love the boots, by the way. Your style works nicely for her.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
| Next =>