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Next out; Icecloud <3Somehow, she looks like Frostfur reborn...(note to self: well duh, she would've been her aunt if she lived)
(c) Erin Hunter
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An old picture, but she still looks lovely. I love how delicate she looks...she is like an angel almost which fits her innocent nature.
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I did try to make her look the innocent little fluffbag she often was shown as, yes.
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Truly, this is why I think she is better for Lionblaze now. She is innocent and is kind of an airhead, but that doesn't mean that she won't mature with age. I kind of picture her as growing into a cat who is a mix of Frostfur and Ferncloud, kind and sympathetic but can be fierce if the need arises.
Brindleface was a fierce fighter when she was pregnant with her kits.
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Yes, many she-cats could be extra fierce when it comes to protecting young, so that makes sense. And I also saw Icecloud as some sort of mix of her mother and her grand-aunt, it's so cute.
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You know...as I stated in that picture I did for concept work for Icecloud's first litter, I was thinking that maybe it is Icecloud who truly honor Cinderpelt's memory. As an apprentice and young medicine cat, Cinderpelt was fun-loving and a bit naive, but yet she could be strong when she felt the need. We're talking about a cat who disobeyed Bluestar and Yellowfang in order to save Littlecloud and Whitethroat. and she snapped at Tigerstar when Silverstream was kitting.
Also...Cinderpelt knew of Firestar's ability to receive signs from StarClan, but she sure didn't act like she was unworthy of him (although he never knew her feelings for him). Instead, Cinderpelt served as somebody that Firestar could talk too.
I don't see why Icecloud can't be the same. She doesn't have to live Cinderpelt's life, she can be like her in how she behaves and serves Lionblaze and her Clan. It also helps with making her gain maturity.
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We do need more of those backbone-chicks who've enough sense both to be justified, and unconditionally kind. Squirrelflight alone isn't enough. And Icecloud's not the worst choice, though having her a bit naive will also add to her personality.
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You know...I kind of picture her being more of a Siamese, because she seems to be one of those cats who almost never shut up...in Sign of the Moon she was babbling until Lionblaze coughed which made her shut up 
And yet those stupid Erins killed her off...
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Hahahaha xD
Yeah, hell no I ain't ever taking that into my canon. Foxleap, if I pull it, sure he could've been felled in battle, but his sister did not die to sickness; I won't allow it.
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Apparently he died from his wounds...really take a promising young cat? Dustpelt suffered enough loss in his life, leave him some kids and the prospect for more grandchildren.
His parents are dead, his sisters, brother, three of his kits, now you took his mate...no wonder he was such a prickly tom.
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Hah of course not, the Erins don't think twice before mass-murdering half the amount of young blood the clan's got.
Aye, who wouldn't be after so much loss in just one life...
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Um...do you like Turtlekit or Frostykit more? Frosty being named in honor of Frostfur.
Could Lionblaze produce cream kits? I think two kits in his second litter have cream, but another idea for my kit is she is (light) creamy-brown (or creamy tan) with faded tabby markings, then her white markings...what do you think?
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Hard to say really, they both sound very cute.
He could, if he's ginger - cream being the dilute version of it, yes. If he's a black tabby instead, that won't work.
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Or...Creekkit.
...what is needed to make a cat a black tabby? Does one parent need to have it to ensure that the kits will have it? Although, Rowanclaw and Tawnypelt weren't black tabbies...shouldn't Tigerheart had actually been a ginger to two cats having the red gene?
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O.o
Simple; at least one parent must have the colour black in some way and either of the two must have true tabby pattern that the child can inherit. But you're right, Tigerheart should in truth have been a ginger cat; even if there's 50-50 chance of him inheriting black from Tawnypelt, will the red colour from Rowanclaw override this completely. So yes, both sons should've been red.
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...well Creekkit has only been used once in the actual series, for Fallowfern's kit, but the warrior name I would have in mind would be Creekblossom.
How does once describe a cinnamon coat? Is it like two colors on one hair or does a cat have a ginger tint to a brown pelt? Redwillow...is weird.
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Ahaa, I did wonder there a little.
Well, solid cinnamon cats are only cinnamon, with no hint of anything else. But the colour is very warmly tinted, almost like a deep, nice red-brown. Sure, you might say it has more of a red sheen than chocolate cats indeed. Redwillow can only be a male tortoiseshell. That's the only logical explanation.
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I think I might just do that, more because it fits a favorite Lion x Ice picture that I've found. It might have more purpose in regards to White. You don't honestly think her name is really White?
The First cats believed that names were a sacred thing, thus they had two names. One name would be their true name, but the other is what they would namely be known by. Usually the false name was boring, like Shoe or Jug. With their true names held safe, the cats believed that they would be safe from most wicked things at least it was time for them to join the spirits. Only then would they be called by their real names.
Oh...well how would you describe a white, ginger, and brown cat? At first I thought of a patched cat which is nice...but I would rather not do. Is there a gene where the colors are kind of merged? Like a cat can look ginger in some light but brown in other?
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Idk really, never thought about that.
Um well the only way to make that happen in realistic settings would be to put only a little white on the cat's body, and have a brindled tortoiseshell pattern, where the two colours intermingle more. Won't be patched though. There's rusting to black fur though, but that doesn't count for brown. Hell the easiest would be to make the cat chocolate, that's the only thing between brown and ginger, though there won't be much of a 'ginger illusion' to the fur.
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It's something that I found in many other cultures, namely involved with their mythologies.
Wait...there was once a feline described as rusty black...does this rusty make the fur look different?
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Aye.
That could be it; it's more like when sunlight hits black fur, this rusty colour can show up. There are also some weird tortoiseshell cases though, where one colour is much more dominant than the other.
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Like how a tortoiseshell might have more black (hence being called a dark tortie)...but that rusty black sounds cool...I hope you find a way to use it. But how does it work? Is the black fur lacking something that gives it that rusty shade?
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Exactly. Oh believe me, rusting is going into my series, on Spiderleg to be more precise, hehehehe - finally I can do him genetically correctly. I'm not sure, it's just this effect that somehow can happen in black colour, I've no idea what causes it.
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? I thought you were going to give him that ghosting like markings. But the rusty black sounds like it could explain his brown belly. But what can result in rusty black?
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That too, yes, but he'll certainly be getting rusting, especially for that weird-ass belly colouring. Idk, sunlight and damp I've heard. Oh, something can happen already at the fetus stage, but like I said, I don't have the faintest clue 'what'.
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Interesting...
You know...what if Icecloud was a plump she-cat? Not plump as in she eats so much that she carries extra weight, but plump as in being natural. Like she tends to look bigger when eating well, but even in leaf-bare she still is chubby. I kind of like that description...and she can still be pretty.
A pretty, plump white she-cat...it's adorable.
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Yeah...
Well, it would be cute, though perhaps not very realistic considering the cats barely get enough to eat. She could be of a stocky build though, that would be easier to get by; say, with a body built like an English Shorthair, which is cobby. That does give the illusion of plumpness.
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Actually I found the perfect design for her, based off an actual British shorthair (who have short, fluffy coats). To make it work, however, I would have to tweak Icecloud's design (not too hard since we know next to nothing on how she looks in regards to full appearance).
She would be a very light silver-shaded and have small ears. But what I love most of the cat I saw is her eyes...they are described as turquoise...
Here's some picture of her (her name is Petunia Snow Queen)
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www.peppercats.ru/foto/DSC_036…
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They are rather stocky cats and fluffy...but how would that affect the genetic calculator?
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Speak of the devil, that's a proper example of a British shorthair right there. And since silver shading runs in the family it isn't farfetched at all either~
Ah yes, I'm rather unsure about the turquiose eyes, they look somehow like a middle-ground between green and blue, but they're very closely connected with shading patterns.
What do you mean by affecting the genes? If you think this is your Icecloud, then all you need to worry about are these factors; from where in her family does she get her stocky build from? Who gave her colours? From where does the silver shading come? (In this case, her mother's side of the family) And which of these features will be inherited by eventual offspring?
Silver shading for one, is recessive. It's unlikely if all, or even one, of Icecloud's children are shaded, unless their father carries the very same gene. Two, her children will more likely be stockier rather than slim, perhaps semi, again with consideration to what their father looks like. Though shading makes her 'look' almost white, your Icecloud must be a genetic blue cat, hence she's dilute. If her mate carries dilute genes, then there's a fifty-fifty chance of any kitten being dilute too. I think that's about it actually.
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No wonder her breeders think so highly of her then. From how they described her, it's clear that she is a good quality cat. Of course I wouldn't know. But why is that? The blue-green eyes I mean.
Well...I kind imagine Dustpelt to be fairly stock (TBH), he seems really strong as Firestar often chose him to do some of the heavy work around camp (like hauling brambles and putting in props during Briarlight's rescue). I kind of picture Robinwing being fairly stocky too, but she also is a little short...would the munchkin be possible in this case?
If we make Icecloud be a British Shorthair (or maybe somewhat like one since she isn't a purebred)...I kind of imagine that it would be Smoky and Broomkit (decided to give Smoky and Pepper their siblings originally from a second litter...more because both of those sibs end up dying). Don't know about Lionblaze, but I imagine that Pepper and Burnet take after him, but maybe Pepper kind of takes more from Leafpool...no idea.
Is silver-shading like an extension? I've heard of it...like it can work on tabbies or something (or maybe that is just for our fantasy felids). So...Icecloud would be born gray (or blue) but the silver shading will lighten her to nearly white?
Um, for silver shading, is it true that the shorter the coat, then the lighter the colored tips will be?
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Yeah I do believe we're talking about a prize cat here yes, she is stunning to look at too. Hmm Idk, I'd suppose the shade is just closely linked with the gene for shading. Eye colour is linked to coat colour, like the more saturated/deep colour coat, the deeper the eye colour (which is why random-bred cats have more washed-out coats and eyes), but as for the specific details... I'm still unsure. Turquoise in itself is also linked to colourpoint albinism though. I'll have to do more research on the matter.
Aye, I too always found him to be described as plenty stocky, so it makes sense that she could have inherited such a feature from him. Hmm Munchkin isn't impossible as a mutation, afterall it's recessive and can skip lots of generations before revealing itself again.
Sounds about right. All that's left is working out her mate's physical traits.
Well, not precisely an extension gene per se; it's what we call an 'inhibitor gene'. Aka, it means it blocks out colour with white. A silver shaded cat is around 60% (give or take depending on other weird genes that I don't understand how works) white from the base. Only the tips are coloured, in Icecloud's case, grey. So she's very lighter-coloured than a solid blue, giving almost the impression of being white. Shading is dominant to all coat colours, and tabby markings; only white spotting is more dominant to shading again.
I don't know how it works with fur length, but I believe a shorthaired cat could look whiter than a longhaired one with silver shading, considering the same amount of hair is white, but the overall coat is shorter. So my answer is more or less yes. (But it's not the tips that are white, it's the base; when the tips are white it's silver tipping - that's something only Russian Blues and Korat cats have)
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very pretty picture! ^-^ is it ok if I use it in a video on youtube?
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thank you ^^ and yes, please feel free.
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Ice is a cutie 
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Yes she is... And your welcome!!
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so cute :3 may I plzzzzz use this for a vid I'm making?
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Please, go ahead
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She's so pretty!!! MAy i use this for a video?
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Awww, thanks <3 feel free, just send me a link
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