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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-29 19:32:41 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

Thank you for the kind words.
I did this ship really fast (5 hours), and wanted to use some greebling on the bottom to give the ship the "Robotech Master Spacecraft" look from the lineart.
Upon seeing it again this morning, I may add one more color to the ship (the reddish-purple) that the Master's ships had. 
This ship would be Breeti's ship in my version of the re-imagined Robotech that you and I have discussed.
It would be the spacecraft that the Space Defense Fortress Atlas (non-Macross SDF-01) would face.
I have been kicking around the idea of making the predecessor of the Legioss Alpha Fighter (AFC-01 or VAF-01 in Robotech), which I would call the "Hoplite". 
However, I don't have the time.  Making a variable fighter is far more time-consuming that just slapping together a quick ship like this one.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-29 19:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 You are most welcome! .

 I really admire how you were able to combine the design features of two of the known Robotech Masters' ships, and I admit I have been thinking about doing something like that myself, but I've got caught by real-life (the Enterprise in my gallery took way more time than expected because I've been returning home tired ). And yes, I must say I missed the purple details on this one .

 Would you mind if I make my own version of your Tirolian Fleet? SO I have a version for my Re-imagined Robotech aswell (since I have ideas too). I think I will try my hand at the canon Robotech Masters' ships when I get back into Robotech .

 I know your pain about Variable Fighters, since I've made some too... they are indeed veeery time consuming ... XD .

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-29 20:22:40 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

Of course I don't mind if you make your own version of this ship. 
I thought we were working off each other's ideas on this pet-project.
I certainly don't have the time or the inclination to do all of it myself.

I'll probably add some of the highlights tonight or tomorrow night when I have some spare time.
Right now I'm concentrating of doing the stats for the final Kentucky class ship (Mark-V), and doing the modeling for the all the USSN-LaGrange-EFR corvettes.

Variable fighters look great when you finish them, but they are a pain in the rear to make.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-29 20:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 Thank you very much! . I can see why you don't have the time for this project, I myself can barely make all the progress I need to . But Robotech masters are a must-have, specially this re-imagined version... I know you have much more experience on this but, I was thinking about sending you a note about a quick Tirolean Fleet Organization I've been thinking about.

 I look forward to see the update and, obviously, I'll be eager to see your new Nexus Arcana ships .

 So true! . And you just reminded me... Southern Cross have variable fighters too... but only one of those is easy .

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-30 02:11:47 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

No problem.  Just shoot me a message/note and we'll see what we can work out.

The vehicles that will be hardest for me to design/develop are the battle pods and star fighters that a non-Zentraedi fleet for this re-imagined Robotech setting will have.
I've brainstormed over this since we started talking about it over a year ago and while I have some ideas, I'm leaning towards Orguss types that look similar to, but not identical (naturally) the Ishkick types.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-30 02:41:57 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 I just sent you a reply .

 That is true, although I guess you don't want the Tirolean Fleet to only make use of Bioroids then? Their size and shape would be the reason for humans to build Variable Fighters (because airplanes are super useful but the humanoid-form for combat with the aliens). Robotech made custom Zentraedi Battlepods for "The Sentinels" but, I would use them for Macross (if I continue, for the Supervision Army).

 I found this link -> www.gearsonline.net/series/org…    and a semi-diagram -> www.gearsonline.net/series/org…

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-30 06:38:52 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

Yep, I dislike the Macross-O-Tech of the Robotech saga.  For me, it is better to leave Macross as Macross and Robotech as Robotech since their storylines are VERY different now with all the new Macross series, movies, etc.  They are not compatible in the least.
Therefore, since Robotech without Macross is something I've always thought possible (since Southern Cross and Mospeada do fit well together), I am of the inclination to throw out some ideas to replace the Macross saga in Robotech with a pre-Southern Cross/Mospeada fan-fiction/re-imagined version of the 1st Robotech War.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-30 19:52:30 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 Indeed, after watching the first episode of "Macross Delta" (I still want those 25 minutes of my life back) it is, once again, demonstrated that it IS the best to keep Macross as a separate universe .

 Your idea is very much like the ideas I have too, and while we can keep some elements of Macross, that series is not really needed except maybe as a slight source of inspiration.

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-31 03:56:51 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

I still need to watch Delta. I have heard mixed things about it (some good, some really bad).

With a Robotech reboot idea I think that Southern Cross and Mospeada can make for a great story set in the years 2099 to 2150 AD. 

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-31 04:43:17 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 I was not given spoilers, but the opinions I've heard also say the ending was like dissapoiting. I don't have much faith in that series (I guess I just try to compare all series of Macross with Macross Plus).

 Yeah, there is no reason why we can't have another year as a starting point, it gives us even more room to set-up things properly before the arrival of Zor's ship.

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-10-31 18:27:23 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

I'll have to watch it to see if it is good or bad for me.

The original date of 1999 is now obsolete as that year has passed in real life and many of the dates in the original Macross no longer make sense for a reboot.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-10-31 19:40:00 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 That is always the best (and should be the only) way to have a real opinion, good luck!

 That is correct, and it allows us to re set-up things, technologies and situations, the extra freedom surely feels good . By the way, after Zor's ship's arrival, would you make humans to build orbital facilities to build ships? (I guess in addition to ground-based stations).

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-11-01 05:49:59 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

The bases and space stations would already exist (albeit non-Robotechnology) and would be the same style as we see in the Southern Cross animation.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-11-01 06:08:35 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 It makes sense actually, I still think humans will have normal space colonies and habitats... at least they will continue working if Bio-Fusion energy starts lacking for some reason.

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-11-01 18:23:57 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

I was thinking that Robotechnology (and the new bio-fusion fuel), would make the construction of space habitats faster, more efficient, and thus easier.  So humans in 2099 would have only made it out to about 15 light years from Earth (and hence Epsilon Eriandi would be an outpost at 10 light years away) before they acquired Robotechnology.   After that, their new fleet would allow them to travel out to 30 times that distance (450 light years) within a comfortable time frame (say 2.5 light years per hour or about a one week trip out to 420 light years).  As they expand over the 10 year period before Space War 1 (from 2099 to 2109) they will of course build space colonies, space stations, Terraform planets and moons, etc. 

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-11-01 19:29:15 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 Absolutely! All the new technologies came as a blessing for humanity... and thanks to Robotechnlogy that humanity will have the chance of survival even after all the catastrophies that every Space War come with.

 I can see that, by the time of Space War I, humanity would have tons of exploration and terraforiming projects, most of them still undergoing (and incomplete) but all advancing at an amazing rate . Fleets of human ships could arrive to a certain system and find a nice starbase surrounded by some O'Neill Cylinders nearby a planet that will be Earth-like in matter of years... simply amazing .

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-11-01 19:59:09 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

I will not be allowing my space stations for use in anything Robotech related, not even a reboot.
Besides, the space stations in Mospeada and Southern Cross have a distinct look to them and I'll use those as a template.

mechajournal.com/wp-content/up…

Space station liberty from Shadow Chronicles is also a good guide for what their space stations and colonies would look like. 
I want to keep this looking Robotech and stay away from everything else.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-11-01 20:07:42 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 I would not be asking you to use your designs, because those are for your Nexus Arcana (By the way, I've been trying to spread the voice about your novels here in my city).

 But I have a mesh of O'Neill Cylinder I've made myself and that I can modify to suit my needs . As for Southern Cross and Mospeada designs: I always saw them as designs that were achieved thanks to Robotechnology (so they have proper Artificial Gravity, shieldings and other systems not available before) that are extremely useful, but none of them could match the capabilities to hold large civilian population than the dedicated good-old colonies (which can now be build faster and sturdier also thanks to Robotechnology).

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-11-02 05:00:14 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

Thank you for spreading the word.
The books need it as selling books has become difficult due to the sheer number that are now available on Kindle.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-11-02 17:30:42 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 You are welcome, I'll try to do what I can because of the language barrier.

 Ohh.

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to Chiletrek [2016-11-03 01:05:04 +0000 UTC]

Hi Chiletrek,

No worries.  I'll take any help.

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Chiletrek In reply to Kodai-Okuda [2016-11-03 01:06:59 +0000 UTC]

Hello:
 Oki doki .

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Kodai-Okuda In reply to single-leg [2016-10-29 19:34:13 +0000 UTC]

Even in the original, the Xor (or Zor) Lord fleet was overwhelmingly superior to the Glorie fleet of ships. 

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