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Description On October 29th, the Pope said this
Causing scandal and being a bad example turn people off, making them think, "Hey, if that is being Christian, I'll be an atheist.' That's because our witness is what makes people see what it is to be a Christian," he said. He really doesn't get it. I didn't become an atheist because I was turned off by Catholics. The scandals in the Church merely point out to me that it's a human construct and that there isn't anything particularly special or holy about it. On the contrary, it looks completely messed up. This gave me doubts about the Church, not God.

I could never choose to not believe in something. My non belief happened on its own after years of reflection.

I, like so many other people, scrambled into the light over a long arduous period of questioning and thinking. It took me years of reflection to finally realize that there was no good evidence for a God.

www.mysecretatheistblog.com/20…
If you are a Christian experiencing some doubt over your faith, you are going to receive a lot of advice from your fellow Christians. You will be told about how doubt will strengthen your faith and bring you closer to your god. I'm not here to argue with that or to tell you that such a perspective is wrong. I just want to point out that there is another possibility you should at least consider. What if the doubt you are experiencing is a healthy sign that your rational mind is trying to break free from a tradition of superstition?


  www.atheistrev.com/2008/01/dou…

The country of the Jesuit is the world. He is a cosmopolite in the worst sense, for he is a patriot nowhere. The object of his education is to eradicate family and national affections. His motto is to be ' sicut cadaver/ — a living mecha- nism.* His politics depend on local expediency, for he has no opinions. He instils radicalism into Irish demagogues, and despotism into Sar- dinian princes. He has science for the educated and fanaticism for the vulgar.
archive.org/stream/jesuitsasth…
www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1…

Chapter XVII.

Section I.  “Let our members chiefly endeavor at this, always to act with humanity, even in things of trifling moment; or at least to have the outward appearance of doing so...

vaticanassassins.org/2009/12/0…


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Comments: 31

NickolasName [2019-11-18 20:40:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I’m gonna be honest this is a terrible argument.

I am very certain that vaccines don’t cause autism, but that only makes it more troubling for me when people think otherwise. I am also very certain that conversion therapy is not only ineffective, but that even if it did work it would still be unethical, and thus the knowledge that some people advocate for it is downright terrifying.

Edit: I guess you blocking me is an eternal reminder that just because someone’s an atheist, doesn’t mean they are intellectually honest. You could’ve at least explained the fault in my reasoning.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to NickolasName [2019-11-19 17:10:34 +0000 UTC]

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O5-8 [2016-03-10 02:28:57 +0000 UTC]

If god isn't real why do you worry about him so much?
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to O5-8 [2016-03-10 09:53:23 +0000 UTC]

If he is real, why you need to stress me because of it? Why you don't pray and let me do, what I want? You are not that sure, right?

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O5-8 In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-03-10 23:53:16 +0000 UTC]

I don't give a shit if he's real, Believe whatever the fuck you want, it's a free country.
I give a give that you're an asshole. There's a difference between not believing in god and, hating all the people that believe in him.

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starsatyr In reply to O5-8 [2019-02-21 04:44:03 +0000 UTC]

It's the ones who want to write laws to enforce doctrines exclusive to Christianity, or to punish unbelief, who have earned, and deserve, the anger of everyone who finds Christian theology hard to swallow. And the same goes for any other religion that seeks to impose a theocracy, even Wicca (not that THAT'S likely to happen).

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to O5-8 [2016-03-11 16:58:16 +0000 UTC]

This comment doesn't only make you look like an a..., it even proves that you are a one.

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dloc-sleef-ti In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-03-11 23:37:00 +0000 UTC]

lol.
changing the subject.
i like stuff like this.
it is funny.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to dloc-sleef-ti [2016-03-12 19:01:07 +0000 UTC]

thank you, me the same

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dloc-sleef-ti In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-03-12 22:20:06 +0000 UTC]

I am not an atheist,
You are still being silly.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to dloc-sleef-ti [2016-03-14 16:41:07 +0000 UTC]

As long as I am not so silly as you are, I am o.k. with that

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ENIMINEMOE [2016-01-08 15:36:51 +0000 UTC]

True  

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to ENIMINEMOE [2016-01-08 18:33:10 +0000 UTC]



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AlexCN88 [2016-01-08 06:56:47 +0000 UTC]

Well said  

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to AlexCN88 [2016-01-08 18:32:47 +0000 UTC]

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mislyd [2016-01-06 15:40:58 +0000 UTC]

Aaaah careful now!  You could actually ask the same about you: if you're so certain about your atheism, why does is bother you so much that some people believe in fairy tales?
(just a thought, this is not meant to be a bitchy remark)

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to mislyd [2016-01-07 17:10:44 +0000 UTC]

I don't go to christians pages and try to stop their (very stupid) publications (when something is absolutly stupid, I think there is nothing wrong with it, to call it stupid btw., how should it be called else?), but they do with atheist works! They make false accusations, they lie and even threaten people here. Who's bad?

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mislyd In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-01-07 17:35:19 +0000 UTC]

You're obviously a bright young woman, so why on earth waste your time trying to explain stuff to people whom you call stupid? 

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to mislyd [2016-01-07 17:44:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't try to publish it in christian groups, so obviously it isn't for them! I think organized religion is the most harmful invention made by men.
Do I tell you, with what you should 'waste' your time? What should be worth for you, to fight against it and what not? NOPE!!!

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mislyd In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-01-07 18:21:30 +0000 UTC]

Religion is indeed very harmful, and I really didn't mean to tell you what to do or not..  I'm sorry if it appeared that way..
It's just that something weighs on my mind.. I notice that a lot of atheists nowadays firmly believe in what I call 'academic science' (which isn't real science), and, influenced by Dawkins, they get really arrogant towards anyone who tries to criticize established theories, which are also manmade and harmful.  Summarized briefly: there's so much to discover, life is short, enjoy it. blah blah.. Nevermind, I'll take my thoughts elsewhere

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to mislyd [2016-01-08 18:11:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah do that! Penguins died for us

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GalaxyRailways2199 In reply to mislyd [2016-01-07 20:10:56 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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mislyd In reply to GalaxyRailways2199 [2016-01-08 09:25:46 +0000 UTC]

If you don't know what I'm talking about, how can you be so sure?
No need to get so angry. 

Academic science : science as taught in schools/universities/etc.  Anything that pretends to be 'common knowledge' today.  Content sponsored by the same people who pay for religious movements.  Don't take my word for it, check it out yourself.  

You know, this is why I don't call myself an atheist any more.  Talking to most atheists nowadays feels exactly the same as talking to religious fanatics.  They both are fundamentalists.  They're always angry and arrogant and they usually start throwing random quotes sooner or later..   

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GalaxyRailways2199 In reply to mislyd [2016-01-06 20:25:53 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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mislyd In reply to GalaxyRailways2199 [2016-01-07 17:29:11 +0000 UTC]

I do know what atheism is.. I don't quite see how this relates to what I said..

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GalaxyRailways2199 In reply to mislyd [2016-01-07 20:09:22 +0000 UTC]

Flagged as Spam

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to GalaxyRailways2199 [2016-01-08 17:58:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your comments, my dear! But I think, this person simply doesn't want to understand. They can understand it suddenly when it effects them personally.
"Aaaah careful now!", if I would begin with that in a christian page and after that trying to make them stop publishing their stuff, than they would suddenly understand, while they don't check it, when they act that way...

It sin't also that atheist "believe" in sciene, you can check science out, you are allowed to question theories and it needs a proof! Has nothing to do with religion at all.

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mislyd In reply to GalaxyRailways2199 [2016-01-08 09:16:30 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry, I can't seem to get my point through..  Probably my mistake.. Forget about it.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to mislyd [2016-01-08 17:59:43 +0000 UTC]

"Aaaah careful now" cause you have no point!

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mislyd In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-01-08 18:11:10 +0000 UTC]

You've just proven my point though. It's impossible to have a normal conversation with fundamentalists like you.  And to think I started this with good intentions, this is very sad indeed.  

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dloc-sleef-ti In reply to mislyd [2016-03-11 23:39:54 +0000 UTC]

b-but,
he uses gifs.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to mislyd [2016-01-08 18:39:00 +0000 UTC]

I only used YOUR words and you feel attacked now??? And I am not allowed to feel that, when you use them? Accusations are not proofs, even when you wish and "believe" in that. Typical christian behaviour, again. You're right in that point, it is sad, very sad!


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DPortZeGerman [2016-01-06 05:22:38 +0000 UTC]

That is the pimpest Frog ever.

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lisa-im-laerm In reply to DPortZeGerman [2016-01-07 17:12:25 +0000 UTC]

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