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Published: 2020-05-03 01:26:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 4469; Favourites: 128; Downloads: 85
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This is the third of four forest landscape studies done in DAZ3D studio.The focus was on the overall mood, light and shapes while optimizing the use of ressources, at best not exceeding the weight of one average DAZ character.
Also all forest landscapes should be merged into one set for easy combination and accessibility. The idea came during the work of another forest related piece where I ran into a couple of problems.
When Andrey79 published his new tree set at DAZ, I decided to rework my old forest base.
If you're interested in the setup - there is a journal to this landscape setup in the Creative Process series here:
Creative Process Part VIForest Scenery setup example - A little side track into the forest, so to speak.
Please note that you can find the other entries here:
As I wrote before, landscape is just another character in the image and there are similarities and differences to setting up a useful (i.e. reusable) and resource friendly scenery.
In this case I felt I had to update my trusty old forest set from Andrey, since it was not really optimized for Iray and it could become a bit heavy on render time. Since Andrey put out a new beautiful Fir tree set, I decide to create a new forest scenery.
Also I wanted to be able to reuse it for different kinds of forest, so I could economize on reusable parts, like backdrop, atmosphere, ground, camera setups and lighting, the latter arguably being the most time consuming.
There are a number of forest sets around, but I was not satisfied, especially Harpwood Trail which relies a bit too much on instancing for
Main sets featured:
Nature - Plants Pack 1 | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D
Nature Trees Pack 4 | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D
The Harpwood Trail for Daz Studio | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D
Wild Borders | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D
3D Scenery: Deepwood Gorge 3D Models ShaaraMuse3D
DAZ3D Iray Render, some PS & Topaz post work.
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Comments: 41
Traumhaftes Landschafts"foto" mit der Lichtstimmung.
Blick in die Kristallkugel: Nächster Schritt nach der Schriftform kommen noch die YouTube Videos / Livestreams / Speedblubb um das allen auch schön zu verdeutlichen, was du da so meisterhaftes treibst. Zumindest bist du einem Großteil der DAZ User ja schon ein Stück voraus bzw. treibst es "wilder" würde ich behaupten. 
Genug Spaß, ich finde es mal wieder sehr faszinierend was Du hier treibst und deine letzten 2-3 "Creative Proecess" Posts habe ich schon paar Wochen noch auf der ToDo... bin prinzipiell ja schon daran interessiert, wie andere arbeiten, vor allem jene die meisterhaftes hinbekommen.
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haha... aber ja, das ist auch mein Lieblingsbild (wobei ich die anderen beiden auch mag) und eigentlich das, um das es mir ursprünglich ging - ich brauchte das für eine Szene.
Ansonsten... nee... wenn YouTube, dann höchstens ala Brandon Sanderson meine Weisheiten zum Schreiben zum Besten geben vor ein paar Literaturgroupies.
Ich mach ja auch keine Tutorials... einfach nur mal die Ideen zum Vergleich hinstellen... ich hab ja das was ich mache auch nicht erfunden sondern viel davon zusammen gesucht.
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Very nice! In your work, the depth and excellent light are very well felt!
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Those pine trees are just beautiful. You can almost feel the forest breeze passing through.
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This is my favourite, too, and the set I actually will use for a picture.
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Echt realistisch. Könnte fast ein Foto sein.
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Ist auch mein Favorit... aber alle scheinen auf das Nachtbild abzufahren
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Das NAchtbild ist auch super, aber das ist von den 4 von den Props, Licht, Komposition mit abstand das beste finde ich.
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Freut mich, dass es dir gefällt!
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I like it, too, and it was the first to be created and the one I needed for the scene. But I thought going to all the effort building the set should lead to something reusable
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AAAhhhhh... Das ist ein Wald in denen ich mein Kindheit verbracht habt... Es fehlt mir...
Danke fur dieses tolle Bild.
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Freut mich... bei uns gab es auch so einen
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Dieses hier gefällt mir am Besten. Super Stimmung!
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Ja... ich mag sie auch. Seltsamerweise fahren alle auf das Nachtbild ab
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Weil Nacht so schwer ist, mit der Lichtgebung mögen sie das alle lieber.
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Hammer. Hier ist das Licht der Bringer. Und ich liebe Tannen.
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Die sind Klasse. Und das sind nur die LOD2 und LOD3 - die HQ Version hab ich gar nicht benutzt.
Und ja, das Licht ist immer das Wichtigste... macht die meiste Arbeit, selbst wenn es nur das einstellen und probieren ist. Man sollte meinen das Gefummel mit dem Aufstellen... aber ist nicht so
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Really nice summery, hazy, dry look to this 'module' The pines look great!
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They're not even the high quality items. I used LOD3 and LOD2 versions. It's really a good set if you're in this kind of scenes. I hope Andrey does some deciduous trees like this set, too, someday.
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There are these which he has just put out. www.daz3d.com/nature-trees-pac…
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I did overlook these! They must be pretty new, too. Still I wish there would be larger version, you simply can't scale deciduous trees as easily as needle stuff especially when they have branches all way down. That's what makes working with Flinks trees so difficult in resizing. They look weird.
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You can show the type of deciduous tree that you need? I can try to collect it in the future.
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The trees from your pack 3 are quite nice, but I feel they have the same problem that practically every deciduous tree for DAZ has, probably because it's difficult to model.
Here are some nice pictures of forests as example: www.monaconatureencyclopedia.c…
There are trees of different ages there, but all share one similarity in a forest - they have to grow tall and high, even when young, to compete for light. There is kind of a breathing space beneath the crowns of, let's say at least 5 meters height.
If you take your pack: www.daz3d.com/nature-trees-pac… you see that even with the big tree the crowns start a bit over the head of a person which leads to a strange, crammed feel to it.
(this goes for flinks trees, too)
Most trees for DAZ look either like saplings or average sized, park or meadow trees. They don't have that 'forest' feeling to it.
Your firs are an exception, and also the old trees in the old Forest Bundle of yours are still better than most, just they don't take well to Iray and large setups.
I tried to work around it here
but of course it only works, because you don't see the leaves of the tall trees which are distorted by the scaling. (Extremely horrible with Flinks trees)
So I would like to have some trees that are simply higher and maybe stronger in the trunk without the leaves and crown distorted. Maybe even some kind of morph would be enough.
On the good side - since the leaves are higher up, they don't have to be of top quality - LOD2 or even LOD 3 would probably completely enough.
In the picture above I did only use LOD2 & LOD3 - they were quite good enough. Often overall shape is more important than perfectly fine detail.
I don't know if this helps.
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Well, I roughly understood what you mean:
1) The trees must be tall.
2) The first large branches should begin above the character’s head, preferably at a height of 5 meters or more.
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Yes that's probably it.
Ideally one could size the lenght (up to the first branches) and thickness of the trunk independently of the crown. I think that would already help a lot.
I also feel that even a large crown has to let some light pass trough, so it should not be to dense.
Usually there is only one mayor sphere of leaves, at the perimeter. Even a closed forest roof should allow for decent lighting beneath the trees.
I usually add a lot of translucency and transparency to the leave shaders, but it's also dependent on the crown shape.
Flinks trees and most DAZ trees seem solitary - they have leaves all around, but in reality only trees in a free space look like this. They cast a lot of shadow, more than a forest tree.
In a forest, the side leaves would not get enough light for the tree to grow them.
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Do you mean because the lower branches scale up too large close to the ground and therefore look out-of scale to the rest of the scene?
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Yes... it pretty much ruins any attempt to rescale them. It actually works from some angles, but from the forest ground it looks awful. I've attempted to do this several times, but honestly gave up in frustration.
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Mmmm, now that I think about it, I may have had the same issue in the past. Yes it's painful.
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