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First animated stamp, so yeah it sucks.Archie Comics SUCK. They might actually be readable if they actually stuck to the actual plot, got rid of all their annoying Mary Sues (Sally Acorn especially. You heard me Sally fanboys).
Sally and Julie-Su are two of the WORST. Both get married to CANON charactors, have kids, and leave all the canon girls miserable.
Julie-su isnt as bad, but even Sallys name screams Mary Sue. Seriously, Princess Sally Alicia Acorn the Chipmunk? She considers herself to be the leader of the freedom fighters just because shes a princess, even though she hardly fights. Shes considered the most beautiful girl around. Twelve guys are in love with her. Including Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, Tails and Eggman. Seriously, EGGMAN??? The mad scientist whos constantly trying to take over the world in love with a slutty chipmunk princess? Am I the only one who thinks a human falling in love with a chipmunk is somewhat sick?
Also, even though her brother was born first Sally became queen. Shes the only on who can use the oh so powerful sword of acorns (couldn't they have chosen something that doesnt make it sound like a toy sword for three year olds?).
And dont forget "Your so selfish for wanting to fight to save inoocent people instead of becoming king and marrying me!"
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Sally is awful in the comics, but in a way, Julie is worse... because she pulled an "Alabama 100" and got with Knuckles--- her cousin. I don't care if it's distant, they're related. This tells kids that it's okay to commit incest. And to top it off, the ho had a child with Knuckles (AU but still counts). Now, Sally, in other media, is a fine young lady, But in these Archie Comics (is that the same comic publication as the one I think it is?) she is a terrible person--- err, chipmunk. Sure, she's a fine leader (I guess?) but she's a selfish [redacted]. Also, am I the only one who at first thought she was a squirrel?
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Julie Su is WAAAY more of a mary sue than Sally is. Sally may be kind of one but Ken Penders really messed Julie Su up.
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Transformers IDW, Dreamwave and G1 Marvel comics are all better than Archie Sonic comics.
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IDW TF's previous universe had it's last handful of years as being MEH though.
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Since WHEN was Eggman in love with Sally?! HUH!
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You do realize it's in its own canon. It's allowed to do what it wants.
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Under SEGA's mandate*Β
It technically, by copy right, isn't allowed to do EVERYTHING it wants. ONLY if SEGA gives it permission.Β
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Actually, Sally Acorn is NOT a Mary Sue. She never was. (U mad, Haters? :^) )
And actually. A Mary Sue is a character that's so freakin' perfect and has NO FLAWS.
:^)
-throws the slap, and the scene that when Sally told Bunnie about her flaws-
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Well.. .seems you're getting what you want...
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I just like the issues 200-today ones,the rest suck!
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Allow me to fully explain why I prefer little romances (More so in "Boom!")
I prefer the subtle hints of pairings in the games, and in the "Boom"... At least SEGA knows how to keep relationships subtle, without having it slow down the pacing of the series, and having it shoved in our faces... *cough* SonSal *coughο»Ώ*
"Boom!" handles the writing of their affection much better.. Ian Flynn ships SonSal, and shoves it down the reader's throats... With SonAmy in Boom, they're relatively subtle, and don't deter the story any further.. With Archie, there are entire issues where Sonic (Fucking Sonic) is moping because he's the only single one.. Not so much with Boom...ο»Ώ Boom actually sticks with the traditional Sonic storytelling, not interested in having the plot slow down for some unnecessary romance plot.. Archie just has soap-operas with Sonic characters, which is redundant, as there are a ton of fanfictions that have this... A few I've come across, however, did the romance plots much better.. If anything, Boom multitasks; telling a subtle romance plot, but at the same time, keeping the plot going in a traditional Sonic fashion..ο»Ώ
And people are going to say "SonAmy in 'Boom!' is just fanservice.."
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Fanservice is Fanservice.. It's how it's handled that's the factor here... Boom handles it rather well, because they're only occasional little hints that show up, and don't slow the pace down at all for some teen-drama nonsense (Keeping with Sonic tradition), that Archie comics spew out whenever they can... Like I said, many times, Sonic has been portrayed as as depressed for being single.. Hell, Sonic's portrayal in Sonic and the Black Knight would beg to differ with Archie Sonic, simply because of one line from the game: "Gimme a break! What's up with all this drama?!" This very quote summarizing a major complaint with the comics; hell, SEGA themselves expressed their disdain towards the comics many times in the games.. In fact, at SoS 2009, SEGA revealed that if they had known that Archie was making Sonic comics without SEGA of Japan's permission, they would've sued Archie, but it's too late now...ο»Ώ
Archie practically screamed "WE SHIP THEEZ TOO, AND UR AN EEDUT 4 NOT SHIPPING OUR SHIPZ!!!1!1" Boom did very well in handling SonAmy here, as the pairing isn't the main focus of the story as opposed to Archie who've had 3 issues in a row dedicated to SonSal drama, prissy-teen love triangles, and other literary elements foreign to the Sonic lore.. Hints of certain pairings are brought up from time to time, but that's different from having it being shoved down the audiences throats.. Even if it is because of the fans, it still makes it preferable to Archie, since Ouido actually gives a shit about their target audience.. Archie just tends to write whatever they feel like, without really caring about the audience's reactions (Y'know, like Modern Family Guy..) If I wanted to read up on a hormonal man's fantasy about a soap-opera with Sonic characters, I'd go on to [fanfiction.net ]... Hell, Marvel comics, and even SEGA themselves even flat-out state that they don't like the comics either.. SoS 2009 even revealed this.. to the WORLD..ο»Ώ
I'd rather have an traditional Sonic story that follows its source's lore (And then-some), while only having hints of romance pop up every now-and-again before getting right back to the plot, than having an entire soap-opera with anthropomorphic characters in some teen-drama nonsense.. That isn't what Sonic is known for; Sonic is known for being a light-hearted series (Roots of a cartoon, I might add) about a blue hedgehog battling an obese Theodore Roosevelt-based scientist.. Making a soap-opera out of that is just asking for backlash.. Overkill romances like these are why Twilight has the reputation it has.. (And frankly deserves..) Romance isn't a focus in the Sonic lore.. I mean, let's say you did the same with a series like ChalkZone.. If that were the case, your show would be utter garbage, because your show has been established as a lighthearted cartoon, with a simple concept and premise.. It's the same with a series like Sonic the Hedgehog.. Taking a lighthearted series, and making it a "drama-fest" would ruin your series, and would be a slave to all kinds of backlash.. Of course, the average Sonic fanboy wouldn't understand this, unless they were writers of a fanfic, and had received criticism even ONCE..ο»Ώ
If you prefer a serious storyline with romance that doesn't shove fanservice down your throat, then, Archie is the wrong place to go.. Teen Titans did it much better.. Danny Phantom did it much better.. Megaman Legends did it much better! Hell, the fucking Simpsons did it first... And better!ο»Ώ
Sonic Adventure didn't need drama.. Sonic Heroes didn't need drama.. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (definitely) didn't need drama.. Sonic Generations didn't need drama.. Sonic Colours certainly didn't need drama..ο»Ώ Drama in this series is what ruins it for the general audience. And that's only scratching one problem I have with this "licensed" fanfiction..
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Allow me to fully explain why I prefer little romances (More so in "Boom!")
I prefer the subtle hints of pairings in the games, and in the "Boom"... At least SEGA knows how to keep relationships subtle, without having it slow down the pacing of the series, and having it shoved in our faces... *cough* SonSal *coughο»Ώ*
"Boom!" handles the writing of their affection much better.. Ian Flynn ships SonSal, and shoves it down the reader's throats... With SonAmy in Boom, they're relatively subtle, and don't deter the story any further.. With Archie, there are entire issues where Sonic (Fucking Sonic) is moping because he's the only single one.. Not so much with Boom...ο»Ώ Boom actually sticks with the traditional Sonic storytelling, not interested in having the plot slow down for some unnecessary romance plot.. Archie just has soap-operas with Sonic characters, which is redundant, as there are a ton of fanfictions that have this... A few I've come across, however, did the romance plots much better.. If anything, Boom multitasks; telling a subtle romance plot, but at the same time, keeping the plot going in a traditional Sonic fashion..ο»Ώ
And people are going to say "SonAmy in 'Boom!' is just fanservice.."
Β
Fanservice is Fanservice.. It's how it's handled that's the factor here... Boom handles it rather well, because they're only occasional little hints that show up, and don't slow the pace down at all for some teen-drama nonsense (Keeping with Sonic tradition), that Archie comics spew out whenever they can... Like I said, many times, Sonic has been portrayed as as depressed for being single.. Hell, Sonic's portrayal in Sonic and the Black Knight would beg to differ with Archie Sonic, simply because of one line from the game: "Gimme a break! What's up with all this drama?!" This very quote summarizing a major complaint with the comics; hell, SEGA themselves expressed their disdain towards the comics many times in the games.. In fact, at SoS 2009, SEGA revealed that if they had known that Archie was making Sonic comics without SEGA of Japan's permission, they would've sued Archie, but it's too late now...ο»Ώ
Archie practically screamed "WE SHIP THEEZ TOO, AND UR AN EEDUT 4 NOT SHIPPING OUR SHIPZ!!!1!1" Boom did very well in handling SonAmy here, as the pairing isn't the main focus of the story as opposed to Archie who've had 3 issues in a row dedicated to SonSal drama, prissy-teen love triangles, and other literary elements foreign to the Sonic lore.. Hints of certain pairings are brought up from time to time, but that's different from having it being shoved down the audiences throats.. Even if it is because of the fans, it still makes it preferable to Archie, since Ouido actually gives a shit about their target audience.. Archie just tends to write whatever they feel like, without really caring about the audience's reactions (Y'know, like Modern Family Guy..) If I wanted to read up on a hormonal man's fantasy about a soap-opera with Sonic characters, I'd go on to [fanfiction.net ]... Hell, Marvel comics, and even SEGA themselves even flat-out state that they don't like the comics either.. SoS 2009 even revealed this.. to the WORLD..ο»Ώ
I'd rather have an traditional Sonic story that follows its source's lore (And then-some), while only having hints of romance pop up every now-and-again before getting right back to the plot, than having an entire soap-opera with anthropomorphic characters in some teen-drama nonsense.. That isn't what Sonic is known for; Sonic is known for being a light-hearted series (Roots of a cartoon, I might add) about a blue hedgehog battling an obese Theodore Roosevelt-based scientist.. Making a soap-opera out of that is just asking for backlash.. Overkill romances like these are why Twilight has the reputation it has.. (And frankly deserves..) Romance isn't a focus in the Sonic lore.. I mean, let's say you did the same with a series like ChalkZone.. If that were the case, your show would be utter garbage, because your show has been established as a lighthearted cartoon, with a simple concept and premise.. It's the same with a series like Sonic the Hedgehog.. Taking a lighthearted series, and making it a "drama-fest" would ruin your series, and would be a slave to all kinds of backlash.. Of course, the average Sonic fanboy wouldn't understand this, unless they were writers of a fanfic, and had received criticism even ONCE..ο»Ώ
If you prefer a serious storyline with romance that doesn't shove fanservice down your throat, then, Archie is the wrong place to go.. Teen Titans did it much better.. Danny Phantom did it much better.. Megaman Legends did it much better! Hell, the fucking Simpsons did it first... And better!ο»Ώ
Sonic Adventure didn't need drama.. Sonic Heroes didn't need drama.. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (definitely) didn't need drama.. Sonic Generations didn't need drama.. Sonic Colours certainly didn't need drama..ο»Ώ Drama in this series is what ruins it for the general audience. And that's only scratching one problem I have with this "licensed" fanfiction..
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Allow me to fully explain why I prefer SonAmy (More so in "Boom!")
I prefer the subtle hints of SonAmy in the games... At least SEGA knows how to keep relationships subtle, without having it slow down the pacing of the series, and having it shoved in our faces... *cough* SonSal *coughο»Ώ*
"Boom!" handles the writing of their affection much better.. Ian Flynn ships SonSal, and shoves it down the reader's throats... With SonAmy in Boom, they're relatively subtle, and don't deter the story any further.. With Archie, there are entire issues where Sonic (Fucking Sonic) is moping because he's the only single one.. Not so much with Boom...ο»Ώ Boom actually sticks with the traditional Sonic storytelling, not interested in having the plot slow down for some unnecessary romance plot.. Archie just has soap-operas with Sonic characters, which is redundant, as there are a ton of fanfictions that have this... A few I've come across, however, did the romance plots much better.. If anything, Boom multitasks; telling a subtle romance plot, but at the same time, keeping the plot going in a traditional Sonic fashion..ο»Ώ
And people are going to say "SonAmy in 'Boom!' is just fanservice.."
Β
Fanservice is Fanservice.. It's how it's handled that's the factor here... Boom handles it rather well, because they're only occasional little hints that show up, and don't slow the pace down at all for some teen-drama nonsense (Keeping with Sonic tradition), that Archie comics spew out whenever they can... Like I said, many times, Sonic has been portrayed as as depressed for being single.. Hell, Sonic's portrayal in Sonic and the Black Knight would beg to differ with Archie Sonic, simply because of one line from the game: "Gimme a break! What's up with all this drama?!" This very quote summarizing a major complaint with the comics; hell, SEGA themselves expressed their disdain towards the comics many times in the games.. In fact, at SoS 2009, SEGA revealed that if they had known that Archie was making Sonic comics without SEGA of Japan's permission, they would've sued Archie, but it's too late now...ο»Ώ
Archie practically screamed "WE SHIP THEEZ TOO, AND UR AN EEDUT 4 NOT SHIPPING OUR SHIPZ!!!1!1" Boom did very well in handling SonAmy here, as the pairing isn't the main focus of the story as opposed to Archie who've had 3 issues in a row dedicated to SonSal drama, prissy-teen love triangles, and other literary elements foreign to the Sonic lore.. Hints of SonAmy are brought up from time to time, but that's different from having it being shoved down the audiences throats.. Even if it is because of the fans, it still makes it preferable to Archie, since Ouido actually gives a shit about their target audience.. Archie just tends to write whatever they feel like, without really caring about the audience's reactions (Y'know, like Modern Family Guy..) If I wanted to read up on a hormonal man's fantasy about a soap-opera with Sonic characters, I'd go on to [fanfiction.net ]... Hell, Marvel comics, and even SEGA themselves even flat-out state that they don't like the comics either.. SoS 2009 even revealed this.. to the WORLD..ο»Ώ
I'd rather have an traditional Sonic story that follows its source's lore (And then-some), while only having hints of romance pop up every now-and-again before getting right back to the plot, than having an entire soap-opera with anthropomorphic characters in some teen-drama nonsense.. That isn't what Sonic is known for; Sonic is known for being a light-hearted series (Roots of a cartoon, I might add) about a blue hedgehog battling an obese Theodore Roosevelt-based scientist.. Making a soap-opera out of that is just asking for backlash.. Overkill romances like these are why Twilight has the reputation it has.. (And frankly deserves..) Romance isn't a focus in the Sonic lore.. I mean, let's say you did the same with a series like ChalkZone.. If that were the case, your show would be utter garbage, because your show has been established as a lighthearted cartoon, with a simple concept and plot.. It's the same with a series like Sonic the Hedgehog.. Taking a lighthearted series, and making a "drama-fest" would ruin your series, and would be a slave to all kinds of backlash.. Of course, the average Sonic fanboy wouldn't understand this, unless they were writers of a fanfic, and had received criticism even ONCE..ο»Ώ
If you prefer a serious storyline with romance that doesn't shove fanservice down your throat, then, Archie is the wrong place to go.. Teen Titans did it much better.. Danny Phantom did it much better.. Megaman Legends did it much better! Hell, the fucking Simpsons did it first... And better!ο»Ώ
Sonic Adventure didn't need drama.. Sonic Heroes didn't need drama.. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (definitely) didn't need drama.. Sonic Generations didn't need drama.. Sonic Colours certainly didn't need drama..ο»Ώ Drama in this series is what ruins it for the general audience. And that's only scratching one problem I have with this "licensed" fanfiction..
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I agree with you.
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It's been a while since this stamp was made, but I'm here to say you should give the Archie comics a chance again. Ever since it got rebooted in issue 252, a bunch of Ken Penders-induced bullshit was removed. For instance, Julie-Su, Elias, Sally's middle name and the Sword of Acorns were all erased from continuity. Also, Sally is more of a fighter and a better tactician, making her role as leader actually justified, and nothing romantic has been done with her - Ian Flynn specifically stated that she and Sonic are just friends, if close ones. In fact, the only shipping that's been done is that Antoine and Bunnie are still married in the new timeline. (Just don't talk about Sally wearing clothes now. That's asking for trouble.) Plus they're following the plot of the games more closely, just with some additional characters and such. As of #268, it's a bizarre but functional combination of Unleashed and The Fighters.
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From what I can tell it's a definite step up from how it used to be. I still wouldn't consider it quality, but the level of cringe has been drastically reduced at least. Ditching everything that Penders had anything to do with (or, better still, claims that he had artistic rights to!) was IMO one of the best things to happen to that comic.
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Twelve guys are in love with her. Including Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, Tails and Eggman. Seriously, EGGMAN???
Β When was Eggman in love with Sally?
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Totally agree
Its sad because Sally used to be a cool character until Archie happened
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But isn't Archie who created Sally ? I'm kinda confused.
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from what I heard (don't quote me on this I'm not 100% sure) Sally actuallyΒ belongs to DiC and was borrowed for the Sonic TV show then used in Archie but they changed her around.
That's what I heard, I don't read the comics and only watched parts of the show I only follow the games
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I see... I also follow more the games than the comics. The art is great but the characters sucks and I heard that the story sucks too. I mean, I don't know if you have seen this page but it show that Archie knew everything to make the sonic fandom upset. This page was about Tails fighting sonic to death. I cannot imagine worste
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Yeah, Sally actually became a big Mary Sue (she seriously had I think about 12 guys in love with her I just what?)Β and I don't like how they changed her into something that she's not actually like, which is why I follow the games instead of the comics, plus the comics aren't done by SEGA they only make the games which count them as canon, the comics aren't counted canon or I think not evenΒ supervised by SEGA so they think that can make the characters into whatever they want them to be like
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Yeah I don't really like Sonic in the comic too.
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What if Sonic was published by Dark Horse comics?
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Your "DC & Marvel is better than Archie Sonic." statement is an opinion, not a fact.
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That comment was a few years back...I am actually okay with the new Archie Sonic reboot now
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Marvel has Deadpool. Nuff said.
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YYUUUUSS GURL. FF--- YESS!
Dead pool be don' nerfin' dem all breakin' the fourth wall and eating chimmichangas!
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Yup Deadpool can just kill all of Archie Sonic easily...he can just break the 4th Wall and nerf them all 
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He killed the Marvel Universe. xD I really doubt Sonic could--.... Or in this case would, kill him. >|c
Speaking of would, have you notice the amount of "Heros" that never finish off the villain due to some "If I kill them, I'm just as bad as them" crap?
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are you referring to Archie Sonic?
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I'm talking about many "Heros" these days. -.-
But when it comes to Sonic, both comic and game versions do this.
Sonic: I have Eggman in my grasp, he can't get away. ....I'll let him go, even though he'll only cause more pain and destruction later.
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I see but we need better writers to improve the Heroes without clichΓ©s :/
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My OC (literally original but kind of connected to various fandoms but is still his own dude) won't hesitate to kill the bad guy when it's necessary. He's actually killed the main villain, like, 10 times already, but the evil [redacted] keeps coming back! Point is, if my half-human, half-shapeshifter guy can do it, then... Well, I can see Shadow doing that.
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Your opinion,but it's pretty cool that archie comics use more species.I mean have you seen a spider in a sonic game?
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so just because they got married to a cannon character it's bad. and listen to yourself, sonic's stories always suck, but at least archie is a little interesting, and saying sally isn't cannon, you're wrong. she's cannon, but in another universe. i don't like archie, but i'm just saying
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Face it. You just hate Archie because of Sonally. Probably because it makes sense
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No.. People hate Archie Sonic because it's just a terrible story that would be better off as some 13 year old girl's Fanfiction printed on paper with overkill drama, putrid character portrayals, cliche characters, sugarcoated innuendos, and much more utter crap..
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"it's just a terrible story that would be better off as some 13 year old girl's Fanfiction"
Yeeeeaaaah... How interesting are those game stories again?
Eggman: Ooohoohoohoohoo!! I'm so evil, I'm going to take over!
Sonic: I will beat you Robuttnik! *Sonic wins*
OR
Eggman: I will unleash (Insert Monster/Demon/Thing here) and use it to take over! *Monster/Demon/Thing doesn't obey/betrays Eggy and goes off to do it's own thing*
Sonic: I must defeat the Monster/Demon/Thing! *Sonic wins*
And let us not forget about the plot devices. I believe you know what I'm talking about... There are 7 of them and they allow people to go into a knockoff Super Saiyan mode for some reason.
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