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Dear all,


Well, there have been many many many journals posted in the past weeks regarding Eclipse. I think it's safe to say lots of people have gone mental, and the site has sort of imploded with freak outs. I realised I haven't actually openly talked about Eclipse yet. I made a poll to see if you guys liked it, but that's about it. 

I don't want to repeat what others have already said more eloquently than I could. I'd recommend reading my partner in crime, Tanya's, recent journal: Eclipse, toxic community and why we can do better
I'm just gonna be really practical for two-seconds. Think about it this way. Whether you have a valid point or not, nobody is going to listen to the person running around in the streets yelling it's the end of the world. Heck, maybe it is the end of the world, but that lady running in the streets screaming it is just gonna be dubbed "the old crazy lady" because she doesn't know how to deliver her message properly. If you want to be heard, make yourself worth listening to. Speak your mind and share your feelings, but do it in a respectful tone. You can get heated, that's fine, but within limits. 

How do I feel about all of this?

Well, when I first tried Eclipse I was pretty upset. I couldn't stay in that version of the site more than 5 minutes because I did not have the options and ability to easily do anything that I would typically do on DA.

I kept repeating, everything you do in Green DA, takes 50 more clicks and 10 more minutes to get done in Eclipse. The site is not user-friendly at all, and it's exhausting.
And I still feel this way, to an extent. And many features or lack thereof bug the hell out of me and make me question how I am going to function as a CV in the future.

However, there has been a game changer for me, and that was this journal: Thank You for Your Feedback on Eclipse!

Suddenly, it was proven to me that yes, our feedback is being heard and taken into account. Before that journal, I wasn't sure. I figured, well, maybe they'll hear us out, but they might disagree with us and thus ignore some of our requests. And of course, not all of my concerns were mentionned in that journal by Heidi , but some very significant ones were, and it is clearly noted that more updates like this are to come. So this gave me a lot of reassurance and hope.

In this journal I'd like to share with you some key issues I have with Eclipse, and if you agree, I'd like to ask that you also submit a feedback form on the issues, which you can find here .

Before I delve into my issues, I do want to take a moment and say that DeviantArt Staff members such as danlev , humblehills , moonbeam13 , Heidi and all the other people who have been working on Eclipse deserve so much love and support. I have never seen a website/online community care so much about what its users had to say. I have never seen the opportunity for members to be a part of a site update like this. You'll never see this happen on twitter, facebook, instagram, tumblr, 500px, etc. Think about how incredible this is? And these same staff members are spending hours day and night reading all of your journals and comments, replying to all your concerns. It's more than I could imagine handling. So they truly deserve all of our respect.
So with that being said, I am about to share some of my big concerns, but I want to make it clear there are also many things I love about Eclipse, and you should send Positive Feedback Forms for those too! To make sure the things you love stay, and make sure Staff know the value of something that was added to Eclipse!



Browsing Daily Deviations
Right now, when you go to the Daily Deviation page, you can only browse DDs one day at a time. This means to see more DDs, you have to click on the calendar and pick a new date, or click on the arrows. This is a very slow process. It makes it almost impossible to do Daily Deviation Highlight journals, especially ones for the entire year, as you would have to click on the arrow or calendar around 365 times.

I think a new system is absolutely necessary here. Perhaps the default being that you browse month by month, with the top of the page being "today" and an endless scroll OR "show more" option to go through the previous days of the month. 

Or, just keep things the way they currently are with Daily Deviations on Green DA (top of page is today and you scroll to see more days), with the OPTION of going to the calendar and picking a specific date if you want to.

OR give us the option in the calendar to pick multiple days, so for example I could pick all of the days in October and then I would see all of the DDs set in that month!

EDIT: I just saw that now when you click on a date to see DDs, it also shows you the previous day? Very weird...and not very logical. I assume this is something temporary as they keep toying around with the page maybe? It certainly makes no sense so that's all I can assume

If you agree, or have other suggestions on what could be done to fix this browsing DDs issue, please submit a form .

Daily Deviations vs Popular 24 hours
It's hard to describe just how discouraged I have been from scheduling DDs over the past couple of years. Having been a CV during the days of the footer, seeing the difference between then and now is depressing. I have to ask myself, why bother, when something only gets 100 new views. Sure it's better than nothing, but I don't think "better than nothing" was the point intended when creating DDs. 

I'd been hoping for months that "New DA" would bring about great change for DDs, but I'm not really seeing anything right now, so I'm hoping more will be done in the future.

Adding the Daily Deviations "tab" isn't enough - we had that for a while already in Green DA and it didn't make that much of a difference. Daily Deviations should be DA's front page. They are curated art intended to represent the DeviantArt community and inspire those who see them. What better thing could be placed on the front page? Popular in 24 hours has a bunch of horrific stuff in it that people hate (vore, inflation, art theft, etc). It can be a huge turn-off for new visitors of the site. DDs are quality ensured images from all galleries, sure to inspire new visitors to give DA a shot.

Aside from DDs, it would also make sense for the front page to have curated community events, so that people can have an easy way to find out what's going on in the community right now and what they can partake in.

If you agree with these points or have other suggestions related, please submit a form !


The Browsing/Tag system
I'm not really sure where to start here, because I think that this hasn't been finished yet, or at least I assume so. As of now, I don't see any difference between search and tags in Eclipse as compared to Green DA. But a few remarks...

We need more than 15 hashtags allowed per deviation. I believe Instagram lets you have around 30? Our work needs to be as easily findable as possible in this new gallery system, so 15 tags isn't enough for that on a site as big as DA.

We need to be able to search multiple tags at one time, easily and intuitively. Right now in Eclipse if I search "fashion" i get some recommended tags to add on, but that's not ideal. Ideally I could immediately upon doing my search, include multiple tags to be searched.

I also feel tags need to be promoted more. Why not have an option where a list of tags are suggested to you when browsing a category such as Photography? Or how about instead of having* to use the search bar, in the "Filters" list we get a little box where we can add tags as filters! That would be perfect. The problem I see is that you have two different search systems here, if I am browsing the Photography page and decide I want to fine tune my search to fashion, I have to scroll all the way up, search "fashion" and start from scratch with my browsing (because I will once again have to pick my filters for the word "fashion" by selecting photography, original work, etc). This isn't a fluid browsing experience. It feels fragmented and inconvenient. In Green DA it's fine because you have all the subcategories to pick from, but in Eclipse they're gone so we need an easy alternative. Adding tags as a filter onto your search, within the same page, without having to leave said page and re-filter your whole browsing would be helpful. I am sure there are many other ways to make the tag system more fluid and logical.

Have ideas? Agree with my suggestion? Please submit a form so we can possibly make these changes happen!

Adding Favourites 


Adding favourites is something I have a huge issue with in Eclipse. However, I'm trying to relax a bit because I'm fairly confident my issues are ones that are going to be fixed. Regardless, I'd like to share them here

Currently, you have to visit a Deviation's page to add it to your Favourites, in Eclipse. That is, if you don't want to just dump it into your Featured folder (which I never do as I do not use my Featured folder). Indeed, no more drag and drop in Eclipse. I personally think this is a bad move, because drag and drop encourages people to add Favourites due to just how easy and quick it is. Now, you have the famous "added clicks" I complain about in Eclipse, where something that used to be simple now requires more steps and time. I don't want to have to go to a Deviation's page every time I want to Fav something. It's tedious and makes adding Favourites a needlessly time consuming ordeal.

If drag and drop favs cannot be brought back, then we need there to be a drop down menu of all your favourites folders, available from the browse page (and from your Watch page when viewing group deviations etc), when you click on the 'star' icon. No need to go to a new page, just fav something to a specific folder, from the browse page, quickly and easily by pressing the star button which only favs something once you have selected which folder it should go to. 
 
Agree with my suggestion? Submit it as a form !

Journals


I don't even know where to begin with journals I can....somewhat get over there no longer beeing skins, even though I am sad because I customised myself a beautiful skin recently. I can also....sort of....get over there not being any CSS/HTML really. But there are a few issues that I cannot so easily get over.

Thumbnails are enormous in a way that is absolutely unnecessary. If I had one photo, it already takes up the whole journal page, which is ridiculous. I have the option to make grids, or 'masonry' and a couple of other things, but they barely make a difference in terms of size. How am I supposed to make the journals and do the projects I currently do, which often include 40-50 very small thumbnails, in Eclipse? The journal would be a never ending scroll page that would give you carpel tunnel just to get through! It's complete madness. 

If resizing thumbs is to stay gone, then we need the option to pick "small, medium or large" for our thumbnails. They can be auto sized by the system, I don't care. But I need to be able to have small thumbnails, otherwise, it seems clear that I will be abandoning most of my art features and projects, as nobody wants to scroll through a journal for 20 mins just to see all the images, and I cannot do them by only including a couple of images.

Furthermore, I'm not sure I understand why we no longer have the option to align our text? The presentation and visual appeal of a journal can be highly influenced by how it is aligned, it seems odd to no longer give us that option.

Headers: There needs to be an easy and intuitive way to add headers to your journal. Right now it isn't clear, I've seen people do it but I myself don't really know how, I guess the first image you include in the journal becomes a header? But this shouldn't be a guessing game, there should be a very clear header choice option. I've also seen that many end up blurry and pixellated despite their having good size so it not being an issue of resolution.

It also appears there is no auto-save? ....... need I explain the issue with that?

Also what is going to happen to all Green DA journals in Eclipse? Right now the way they look in Eclipse is pretty awful, will they all end up just being stripped of their skin automatically?

If you agree with my points and suggestions, send a form to express them as well!


Zooming on Deviations and Deviation sizes on the Deviation Page vs Browse Page


I have a huge issue with the whole zooming on Deviations in Eclipse. In Green DA, it's quick and easy, you just click on the deviation as many times as possible based on the resolution, to zoom in. The Deviation page is incredibly wide so this means you will only ever need to scroll down, and overall you get great visibility of the full view of said image on your screen.

In Eclipse, however, you get this tiny little box with a scrollbar. It gives me this crammed feeling, where i have to scroll both vertically and horizontally to see some images and in the end i never feel like i am getting the full view 'experience' of that artwork.

I would much rather we keep the current zoom system on Green DA, as I fail to see the value added of this tiny pop up box with a scrollbar. The pop up nature of it is odd, by the way. 500px has a "pop up" image system, but this works from the Browse page, it gives you a "quick view" of the photo you're looking at and the ability to quickly and easy comment on it. If that's what DA had done that'd be awesome. But this weird pop up on the deviation page to zoom in....no, just no it also looks incredibly outdated/archaid in my opinion to have a pop up page like this with scrollbars, reminds me of early 2000 websites...

I also don't understand why the default size of deviations on the deviation page is soooo small. You go from these ginormous thumbnails on browse page, to a teeny tiny image (in comparison) on the deviation page. Shouldn't it be the opposite? You click on a deviation to see more of it, not less of it, and when browsing you just want a preview, not the huuuuge image taking up half the page.

Agree with me or have other points on this you'd like to share? Submit a form !



Message Centre - Groups


The message centre is confusing to me. I can filter the messages by "type" but some types don't work or make sense. "Mentions" isn't a thing in groups yet it still shows. When I click to look at comments, half of them show an error message saying that they are no longer available. I really don't enjoy no longer being able to see the number of comments on a backroom thread, also where do notes go?? They're just dumped into the "Activity" section from what I can see but there is no icon to help us differentiate what is a note, what is a backroom thread, what is something else. I think we really need little icons or some similar type of system to be shown on each message, so we can immediately know what it is. Because the Activity section shows a variety of things, it's not like the "comment" type where you obviously know everything you see is a comment.

Agree? Submit a form !


Message Centre - Feedback page


The feedback message centre page feels overwhelming and cluttered. Most of all, so much space is wasted. Boxes take up an enormous amount of space because of the preview thumbnail of the journal you were mentioned in, or whatever else. It seems the longer the deviant's message, the bigger the preview thumbnail of the journal or poll or whatever will become. Overall it's just not very appealing to have your message centre full of enormous boxes of mostly empty space.

Also, I really enjoy how for replies, your message the person is replying to is shown in a little quote box. However, I miss the current option where you can click to see the whole message thread (thus seeing ALL previous messages), here I don't appear to have any way of doing that, and I see that as a huge problem. Sometimes I need to be able to see the whole conversation, yet in this system I cannot unless I spend time manually looking for it on a journal or in a forum thread (which could take forever, forum threads have hundreds of messages in them). 

In other news, I'm waiting to hear what happens to the current saved messages we have in our message centres in Green DA, as mine have not transferred to the Eclipse Saved folder, and I definitely don't want them to be lost

If you agree with the points I've raised, share them in a feedback form !

Profile page cover images
I know they're aware of the issue....but I am still unable to get a cover image that isn't pixelated as hell, despite trying all sorts of different huge and small resolution images to see what happens.


Unbalanced profile pages
If you want to showcase numerous gallery and collection folders on your page, the left side of your profile will be quite long. Meanwhile, the right side has a lot let options for widgets to include, meaning you can't control the length, and in the end the left side of your page ends up being super long while your right side is super short. It'd be good to have the option to add folders to the right side as well so we can have a balanced profile page. Or at least have the option to add SOMETHING else to the right side, whatever it may be, to balance the lengths on each side.

If you agree, don't forget to fill a form on this !


The "Location" box


I haven't tested this out too much so maybe i'm missing something. But typically, when you have a location box for an image, it's a geo-tag type system that has a map integrated, and for example on Instagram it means if you click on the location given for an image, you get to see all images submitted with the same location named. But the Location box in Eclipse appears to just be a text box? Am I missing something? I can just type in the location of a photo in my description and it does the same thing

Browsing Polls and Status posts
I really love that we can now browse polls and status posts, but I'd love for there to be a filter system for them. This might entail having to add filter options when we make status posts or polls, but I think it would be really helpful. I'd like to be able to browse polls or status posts by time posted, by popularity, by tag (in an intuitive way), etc. Otherwise, the page is just an overwhelming list of every stupid poll and status post something made to say "butts" and "I just ate a chicken sandwich".

Body Art, Sculpture and Street Art


I assume these are going to be removed, as they are incredibly arbitrary and it makes no sense to keep them while having deleted all other sub-categories. Not to mention it's confusing af.

Black vs White mode and Thumbwalls
I've heard from several people that both the black and white modes are too harsh on their eyes, suggesting maybe a grey be introduced. I've also heard that thumbwalls (the way thumbnails are displayed on the browse page etc) is a huge issue with people who have eye impairments like Astigmatism. I know forms have already been submitted regarding this, so I just want to further highlight it, it would be very unfair to make it impossible for thousands of people with eyesight issues such as Astigmatism to use DA. The solution also seems quite simple, just add more space between thumbnails!

Seeing a Deviant's Daily Deviations

Adding /dds to the url no longer works, and I don't see a link in peoples' Galleries leading to the users' Daily Deviations (like there is in Green DA) so I'm hoping this will be fixed?



Well, that's about all I can remember right now So I guess I'll stop here!

Overall, like I said previously, there are also several things I love about Eclipse, so please don't see this journal as an invitation to spew any hate or "this is the destruction of DA" comments.

But, if you can be respectful in your delivery, I would very much like to hear what you have to say about the points I've raised here, and any other points you may have regarding Eclipse?


*so yes, indeed, my journal title is clickbait, I very much am not on the bandwagon of 'this is the end of DA' nonsense


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Comments: 144

tsumefan2 [2020-10-29 15:24:38 +0000 UTC]

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Mrs-Durden In reply to tsumefan2 [2020-10-29 17:33:19 +0000 UTC]

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tsumefan2 In reply to Mrs-Durden [2020-10-29 23:06:39 +0000 UTC]

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Stuntpony [2020-10-26 21:20:26 +0000 UTC]

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Daliko-chan [2019-10-29 17:07:29 +0000 UTC]

I've hidden my watchers an people whom I watch and realised it's still all visible on eclipse. What a pile of shite. 

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ShieldLiger [2019-09-13 00:19:18 +0000 UTC]

"Suddenly, it was proven to me that yes, our feedback is being heard and taken into account."

Did anything actually improve based on your feedback?

If not then the only thing that happened is your feed back was *acknowledged*.

Deeds, not words.

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Mrs-Durden In reply to ShieldLiger [2019-09-13 07:12:14 +0000 UTC]

Plenty of things I brought up as problems have changed, yes.

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ShieldLiger In reply to Mrs-Durden [2019-09-13 18:49:46 +0000 UTC]

good to hear.  Coming from someone not on the dA staff it means a lot.

I just hope the security issues I spotted, and reported, will also be similarly addressed.  Currently they have not.

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Mini-Chibi-Reaper [2019-05-24 00:15:47 +0000 UTC]

Huh, I just saw this. I admire your calmness, tbh.

I don't want to freak out another time about this, so I'm gonna keep this simple.

You say skins and code-customization are gone in Eclipse, right?
You say you can arrange yourself with it. I don't believe you, because I've been seeing your account for a long time now and it's always beautiful and well edited.
As are your journals.

Personally I can't get over that missing. Journals and code-based customization are one of the key things that make DA DA.

Now you might have more inside on this topic or maybe you're just calmer then most of us.
So my question is:
Will anything about the customization options on profiles, journals etc. be improved to a point in Eclipse, where it's options and individuality can be compared to the green design?

Also, I wonder if you're truely happy with Eclipse, but that might be a too personal question.

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Mrs-Durden In reply to Mini-Chibi-Reaper [2019-05-24 07:25:21 +0000 UTC]

Hello! I'm only a volunteer on the site, I'm not Staff and thus not working on Eclipse so sadly I don't have an answer to your questions. I'd recommend asking those questions on one of danlev 's Eclipse update journals, or other people involved in Eclipse are Moonbeam13 humblehills or LaurenKitsune

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Mini-Chibi-Reaper In reply to Mrs-Durden [2019-05-24 21:19:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh, ok. Thank you, I'll try to ask there, then.


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AuroraRave [2019-04-01 10:15:58 +0000 UTC]

I've just registered a new account and I can't switch off Eclipse from there. I can't turn back to old version. There's no page with points there. I can't trade llamas from there. 
They're going to remove points and llamatrade from Eclipse or what?
How could I sell my adopts for points from there if I can't even browse my points balance?

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davincipoppalag [2019-03-21 21:30:58 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree.. the thing is very labor-intensive and overcomplicated. It seems to be sized for people with 108inch screens!~.. I have a 15 inch laptop~...I tried a journal submit and was totally without clue how to do it.

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RosePets [2019-03-08 19:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Hidden by Owner

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Mrs-Durden In reply to RosePets [2019-03-09 09:48:37 +0000 UTC]

Can you not use my journal as a weird excuse to promote stuff? Hiding your comment.

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RosePets In reply to Mrs-Durden [2019-03-09 14:20:10 +0000 UTC]

As you wish. I apologize.

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YarrowStripe234 [2019-01-15 09:55:15 +0000 UTC]

I agree with everything 
And I just wanna say that they took away custom boxes

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Mrs-Durden In reply to YarrowStripe234 [2019-01-15 12:03:27 +0000 UTC]

ok

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Nakkurussu [2019-01-11 16:12:49 +0000 UTC]

Even if the title is a bit too literal, it's got a lot of truth to it. Version 9 will most certainly be DeviantArt's downfall since they'll be getting rid of third party ads, without a place for hobbyists, barely anyone will pay for Core, and probably w lawsuit since the layout for profile pages is a little too much like ArtStation's, which ArtStation knows about already. Not enough money means they'll probably be forced to close down. 

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Mrs-Durden In reply to Nakkurussu [2019-01-11 17:58:33 +0000 UTC]

clearly you didn't read my journal.

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Nakkurussu In reply to Mrs-Durden [2019-01-11 18:00:18 +0000 UTC]

I have actually. This is just my own input.

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Mrs-Durden In reply to Nakkurussu [2019-01-11 18:01:18 +0000 UTC]

K

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Tinselfire [2018-12-06 19:19:12 +0000 UTC]

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Neetsfagging322297 In reply to Tinselfire [2019-09-02 17:53:34 +0000 UTC]

It's nice to see that so many others recognize how terrible Eclipse is.

Eventually, if they still bother to monitor activity, they''ll notice Eclipse made things worst and not better.

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rotane [2018-12-05 08:39:45 +0000 UTC]

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BigClaudia [2018-12-03 18:47:39 +0000 UTC]


i left a layout suggestion 

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Username-91 [2018-12-03 12:45:53 +0000 UTC]

What worries me most is liking someone's comments and unlocking plenty of features that were available for subscribers only. I've heard that all users will finally have the ability to change their username. I don't like this idea because most users give money only to change their username. Another stuff, which I dislike, is the liking of someone's comments. Seven years ago, many profiles appeared that used scripts and programs to increase the number of visitors, favorites, badges, and watchers. Some of the profiles offered to do that for points and money. Imagine what will happen when they allow this voting up someone's comment in eclipse. Robotic accounts will abuse this, and in this way, they will earn much cash. We already have issues with them for abusing these features I mentioned. We don't need another issue, which the Administration cannot handle it well. To be honest, they never bothered with these robots who are abusing these features I mentioned. No matter how much we report them, they always mark our reports as invalid.

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gdpr-21489479 In reply to Username-91 [2019-01-02 15:28:35 +0000 UTC]

They never said anyone would be able to change their usernames. Nor on the preview site, nor in its faq. It'd be more of an assumption, what you've heard...

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Username-91 In reply to gdpr-21489479 [2019-01-02 17:37:13 +0000 UTC]

It would be fair to have a visitor widget and polls unlocked. That would be enough for us non-subscribers.

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gdpr-21489479 In reply to Username-91 [2019-01-02 17:58:38 +0000 UTC]

Polls are for non core members too in Eclipse. Dunno for the visitors one though.

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Username-91 In reply to gdpr-21489479 [2019-01-02 18:19:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm aware of polls. They made them available in Eclipse. I forgot to mention that part.

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WDWParksGal-Stock [2018-11-28 11:57:34 +0000 UTC]

 To continue the conversation started at WDWParksGal I had a chance to read this carefully, along with the other journals you highlighted. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you pointed out. When the most glaring issues are fixed, perhaps it will make Eclipse easier to use. I hope so, because I like the clean, organized look of it. I just want to be able to use skins!


I have astigmatism in both eyes, so I understand the issues with the glaring colors of black or white. A gray would be a good solution. The black is very nice (do not like the white at all), but I could do without the eye strain.


Some people like to make a big production out of everything instead of sitting back and really thinking about their positions prior to leaving a comment. In the age of Twitter where people can feel compelled to say whatever dang thing crosses their minds at that second, instead of thinking it through, some people have a propensity to yell, snap, argue, accuse, proclaim, etc. their not fully formed opinions when their feathers get ruffled. Geesh. I just want to retort, "people, calm down already and think about this before going over the edge".


Thank you for taking the time to point all of this out. You brought up things I hadn't noticed yet!

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Cassy-Blue [2018-11-28 06:20:47 +0000 UTC]

I personally am looking forward to the new interface when the things are worked out since it looks so much more professional that maybe I'd start putting my dA back on my business cards. It looks like a hip version of behance almost. Did you notice if the mass uploading works the same or is it going to be different? That feature is super important to me and the stock folks. 

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Mrs-Durden In reply to Cassy-Blue [2018-12-01 10:22:49 +0000 UTC]

Good question I have no idea! I've never used mass uploading :/ Tagging Moonbeam13 as I'm sure she'll have an answer!

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Cassy-Blue In reply to Mrs-Durden [2018-12-02 02:49:50 +0000 UTC]

thank you, I'm sure Danie does

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moonbeam13 In reply to Cassy-Blue [2018-12-03 19:40:15 +0000 UTC]

Hi there

If you're referring to using sta.sh, it should work the same

~ Danie

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YunaiNinjaMistress15 In reply to moonbeam13 [2019-07-21 23:30:51 +0000 UTC]

I hope y’all figure will something cuz some people still likes the old layout of Deviantart even I’ll admit even I prefer the old layout cuz it’s probably easier then new style even some users make suggestion to you cuz they send messages to you say make it optional for some who like it can use new style and some who still prefer old layout can still use the old style you know like have best of both worlds 

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Cassy-Blue In reply to moonbeam13 [2018-12-05 00:46:21 +0000 UTC]

cool!

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Vyolain [2018-11-27 11:24:28 +0000 UTC]

QUESTION WHEN WILL DEVIANTART ECLIPSE COME?

As in, for everyone?? Not only for testing. <3 SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND!

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moonbeam13 In reply to Vyolain [2018-11-27 18:50:38 +0000 UTC]

There is currently no official full launch date, we are still very much in the Beta and debugging phase but stay tuned to hq for information

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Vyolain In reply to moonbeam13 [2018-11-28 04:26:10 +0000 UTC]

Okay thank you so much! It was really helpful!

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moonbeam13 In reply to Vyolain [2018-11-28 12:14:57 +0000 UTC]

My pleasure!

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PendragonArts-GEA [2018-11-27 10:56:33 +0000 UTC]

First off, this is a great journal entry and very detailed. Thank you for your time and caring for our community. We've chatted briefly before. It always seems to be  under circumstances of duress, lmao! This is what I shared in Tanya's page, though I haven't had the pleasure of any exchanges with her, chatting with her or knowing her before all of this. copy/pasted: There is never an excuse for abusive language or threats, ever and I'm sorry it has spiraled into that. I'd like to share though my thoughts that people are lashing out because they had their hopes up they were finally heard only to have this rolled out and forced on them instead of dealing with the issues that have been plaguing this site for so long. I, personally have invested hundreds and hundreds of dollars here every year and was soooo excited to have this new eclipse come rolling out. I think many were really excited and looking forward to it... and it would look something like this: My version of DeviantART EclipseThe moment I tested DeviantART Eclipse, I was dissapointed as a result. 
My main reasons are presented in this journal.

For the past two days I've been trying to come up with an idea about how the site's layout update should be.


 Suggestions regarding the Core members' benefits:
  Core members should have the ability to customize their background image or colors.
  The number of Custom boxes should be 20 instead of 10 for Core Members.
 The site should promote the art of the people who pay more compared to how it's been promoted now.
 Access to all of the while going into the core of what has been a problem with so many people for so many years, which has become an epidemic, with people fleeing DA like rats on a sinking ship... People really want value for their money, they want to be heard, considered, responded to in a timely manner and want to feel a part of the community yet the corporate approach, disenchanting, removing the individual, the sense of belonging or being cared about has become more and more so. The main company is making huge profits off the views, which is why they still have massive porn here.... ala DeviantPorn side hub... (and it's always right out on the main page of the site too or when you are searching for stocks) views equals money.   The backlash is a build up that, despite the violence, which is never an option, is, again, a natural consequence of creative people being shoved into a rabbit hole of conformity for years and years. They also allow an outright Nazi here who actively recruits... There are vulnerables here, children and this is prime territory for the vulnerable.  I don't know you and I'm not meaning to come across nasty. These are my feelings and I hope you take them as that and not accusations.



Edit: note: if you would like link to the first porn that showed up from my first light scrolls on my mouse while trying out the Eclipse the 3rd time off the main page, let me know and I'll send it to you privately. I don't want to give such any more publicity than necessary. This also goes for the actively recruiting Nazi here that tried to recruit me. Blessings to you.

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PorcelainPoet [2018-11-27 02:08:07 +0000 UTC]

I didn't even try it out yet because I had a feeling I'd hate it.  

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Mrs-Durden In reply to PorcelainPoet [2018-11-27 06:12:54 +0000 UTC]

Well that's not really the best way to see things Try it out with an open mind and see how you feel then

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PorcelainPoet In reply to Mrs-Durden [2018-11-28 06:10:54 +0000 UTC]

If we have the option to switch back, which it sounds like we do, then I will give it a try.

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Mrs-Durden In reply to PorcelainPoet [2018-11-29 12:57:22 +0000 UTC]

yes you can switch back

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Lyricanna [2018-11-26 20:47:26 +0000 UTC]

Agreed on DDs; that drove me batty when I was still a CV.  Hundreds, sometimes thousands of views a day reduced to 300 or less was disheartening as hell.


Also glad that lit previews are on their list because they're rather dismal right now.

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devduck01 [2018-11-26 20:13:28 +0000 UTC]

Fantastic journal...very detailed..thanks for all the effort

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Mrs-Durden In reply to devduck01 [2018-11-27 16:55:57 +0000 UTC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

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