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This is Anne's oldest son, another cousin of leatherfaces. Fred appears to be highly demented (might be because he lost his job at the slaughterhouse) and perverted.Suffering from a Heterochromia and a speech impediment, he's considered something of the Black sheep of the family, as he complains that they treat him like an idiot and make him clean whenever he comes home from his gas station.
He has a blatant dislike for his brother Tex.
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Alfredo was the most quotable motherfucker in the entire film, him, Tinker and Tex were just awesome and I really liked Michelle as well.
The part that made me howl with hysterics was when Benny had a shotgun to Alfredo and Alfredo's only response was 'Do I know you?' and I really loved how the dude seemingly has no fear at all when Michelle pointed a shotgun at him and Alfredo didn't even bat an eye and even called Michelle out on it "What are the chances a brainless bitch like you knows how to use that thing?" I really liked him and it's a shame he wasn't the head of the family but I think he's more entertaining in his role as the black sheep and was he the one who called Tex "Eddie" which causes Tex to snap because as a family member he's probably one of the few who knows Tex's real name?
Great job on the image by the way
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He was a very unique and fun to watch character.
He was always the one that got pushed around, the runt of the litter even if he was older. It is so odd to see someone in a family full of odballs singled out like that.
I think my favorite quote by him was "Clean that trap Alfred, clean it good, all you motherfuckers don't tell me what I should... um, do. Take your ugly face Tex and ram it up your butt! (laughing) That's what I'm gonna do!"
Thank you. It was fun. I was sort of young, so I might redraw allot of my old TCM stuff eventually.
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He was; he was just awesome and he sort of reminded me of Vilmer from the newer series (aka the only good part in my opinion) but they never mention why the single out Alfredo which is a shame because he doesn't deserve to be pushed around, why I first saw the character I didn't think he was that old, I thought he was in his mid-to-early 30s but the fact he was the runt of the litter made him more interesting because maybe that's why he's pissed off at the world and I loved the line to Michelle "You hit front and I will fuck you in half!" I think Alfredo, Vilmer and Tex could be interesting if they were in Drayton's family, I would've said Tink too but with Chop-Top they already have a dude with a hook for a hand.
I would love to see you draw Michelle or Benny 
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I think it might have had something to do with his heterochromia and speech impediment that made him sound odd (they may have thought it was a sign of stupidity). I know firsthand that people with birth defects are ostracized in many ways. I just noticed that in that family, many of them got the way they were through injury (losing hands/legs/needing leg braces). I mean Alfredo looks older than Tinker and Tex by maybe five years, which makes it different, since little brothers usually are the ones made fun of by older siblings. I do tend to imagine that they all are related, like Vilmer, W.E, Tex, Tinker, and Alfredo are all Leatherface's cousins.
No matter what horror films I watch, I always end up siding with the antagonists. Whether they are Freddy Krueger, Hannibal Lecter, Pinhead, or families like in TCM or the Hills have Eyes. Protagonists the whine, act self-righteous, or are just plain dumb goody-two-shoes (which is most of them) never interest me.
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Good point but surely Tink should've been the one who was ostracized since he has a hook for a hand; I like Tink/Tech don't get me wrong but he seemed awfully similar to Chop-Top even though they both did great jobs on their respective performances and I liked how Alfredo was the only one with a proper occupation, a gas station attendant and in a way I view him as scarier than Leatherface because you could run into a guy like Alfredo at any backwoods gas station where you have hardly any chance of meeting someone like Leatherface; I would've thought that having an attractive model as a member of the Sawyer clan would be creepy for the same way that Tex is damn scary, they look so normal so you don't expect them to be so psychopathic and I totally agree with your points on horror protagonists.
What kind of speech impediment did Alfredo have? It just seemed like he spoke too fast to me.
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Many people used to treat men who lose limbs almost like they were battle scars, depending on how they lost it. Chop-Top and him both had what could be considered a disability( hook-hand and a plate in the skull), but they are really nothing alike, personality wise besides the fact that Tink used to be a hippy.
Leatherface is sort of child-like, so it almost makes it hard for me to find him scary.
He spoke very fast, in a frankly funny sort of way. Because of that, people might not have taken anything he said seriously.
In many horror films, the gas station attendant is essential to leading travelers to certain danger. I just remembered that Alfredo was allot less subtle in that job, scaring them away with a shot gun instead of just giving them directions. But that could have been apart of a plan to get them to trust Tex more.
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I can imagine that, I think he was more added for the humour value in a dark and twisted way and I really think he did a great job with that and I loved how almost polite he was, calling Benny 'Mr' constantly and I think anyone who survives getting punched into a swamp, especially when you consider that he's just a normal guy shows, in my mind, that Alfredo is pretty damn tough.
I can see that, I think the 3rd one had the best supporting cast with great characters like Tech, Tex, Alfredo and they were just all great, how does Tex react to being called Eddie by the way? I imagine that someone of his family members pissed him off because Michelle and Benny couldn't have known his real name since he mentioned that he was 'Tex' and I see what you mean about Alfredo, maybe they should've had Tex in the role of Alfredo and maybe Alfredo could've been the hitch-hiker but I can see him scaring people away as well...poor guy can't catch a break.
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Sometimes, calling someone very formal things like Mr is actually a way to make fun of someone in a patronizing way. I think that's why Alfredo called him Mr. I bet he's very used to getting literally pushed around.
Alfredo was making Tex look better by comparison, so those people would be more likely to do what he said. It would not be a good idea to have Alfredo be the hitchhiker, since it would be like what happened to the hitchhiker in the first film, but worse. It might involve more yelling and shooting the people when he wasn't supposed to. If that happened, he'd just be seen as an even bigger screw-up by the rest.
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Good point, Alfredo couldn't do a lot right but for some reason I just found him awesome, the lines he had were just so goddamn hilarious and his black comedy antics like his singing while dumping the bodies sort of reminded me of Chop-Top in terms of personality.
On the subject I had an idea for a Sawyer called Tic/Twitch, who could've been in the third movie who had a muscle-spasm hence his nickname and rather than work in jobs like Alfredo or Tinker, he's a local radio host who portrays a calm and collected person over the airwaves but is screaming and insulting Leatherface, even slapping him around because he thought 'This stupid fucker's just a dog; he won't dare do nothing to me' and I even imagine his death is that he gets hung by his own radio microphone live on air.
Therefore we'd have Tinker/Tech, Tex and Tic/Twitch, sounds like a tongue twister.
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The film would probably have been a lot less entertaining without Alfredo. I'm sure him, Chop-Top, and Nubbins (hitchhiker from the 1st movie) probably got along very well at family reunions.
Sometimes I do wish that they would not have used nicknames so much, since knowing the real names of characters like Tinker and Chop Top would make them more human.
My imagination is sort of limited when it comes to writing. It's easier for me to draw a person than to come up with who he/she is. But I have much respect for those who can come up with their own characters.
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I've written a fic about Tic/Twitch if you're interested.
I'm sure Chop-Top's real name is Bobby and I love how Chop-Top would dance with the corpse of Nubbins it was fantastic and Bill Moseley seems like one of the most awesome people ever, even when out of character he's just hilarious and I think Alfredo and Tex were a really entertaining part of the series how Alfredo just hated Tex's guts and I think Tex wasn't to keen on Alfredo either and I think the only Sawyer I didn't really like was Grandpa.
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I just noticed that all three of Drayton's brothers (or sons, if the comic books are correct) have b's in their names.
Bill Moseley is such a great guy, especially when he starts yelling and ranting or making jokes. He was great in Repo the Genetic Opera too.
Grandpa, I wouldn't say they didn't need him, but his presence wasn't exactly essential. But I do like that he had the same birthmark on his face as Nubbins and Chop Top. And his moment of standing up with his briefly regained, murderous vitality was pretty cool. Until he fell down, of course.
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He's apparently got his own music but I can't remember the name of it, there's a really cool 40 minute radio interview with Bill on Youtube and he just comes across as so damn chilled.
I think that when he jerked to life and sucking the blood from the hook was genuinely disturbing because I wasn't expecting it, wasn't his wife a dead corpse in the same room or something? I really liked The Sawyer's more than the Next Generation one, the only good thing about that was Vilmer, he was fucking amazing.
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Yes, his dead wife was in the room, although no one treated her that way. I guess it's almost a childish way of not accepting reality.
I think everyone prefers the Sawyers. I remember that most everyone in that movie was very random. I almost felt like it didn't matter what any of the victims said, because the family members would just bring up something completely unrelated.
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That was pretty cool and I really liked how they had a way of not excepting reality, I just hated what they did to Leatherface in the Next Generation, as I said the only good thing about that movie in my opinion with Vilmer and the only good thing in the 2003 version was Sheriff Hoyt and I really liked how you could do everything they asked for and they'd still let you go like true villains.
Do you think that the Leatherface from the first 3 movies is the same guy because he goes through a hell of a lot.
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I found it kind of odd that the only family Leatherface has in the remakes is a bunch of elderly people and a child, no one who could really pose a healthy threat. It is pretty entertaining to watch R.L Ermee yell at people, but I really do not like the remakes. Like with most horror remakes, it's just a watered down parody full of super-models (I liked that the people in the series looked like normal people)
Yes, first three movies it's the same person. It is sad that he keeps losing family in such a way, especially since they are pretty much all he has.
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R.L Ermee was great in his role and he could've easily been a good Drayton character in the originals and he's always terrifying and plays the character of Sheriff Hoyt really well, it would've been interesting to see the character of Sheriff Hoyt in the original series.
I also agree with the opinion on the people who are escaping from the Sawyers, they need to look normal to be relatable even though Kate Hodge, who played Michelle in the 3rd one is such a damn fox but she still looks normal.
I feel almost sorry for him with the way he gets treated and the way his family get killed off, I once had a weird theory that was ridiculous in that Baby Firefly WAS Little Girl Sawyer from the third film since they're both blonde and are just as crazy as the other.
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The actor that played Drayton did just fine. I liked how he actually showed some caring, like giving Leatherface a 'I can't stay mad at you' kind of look before berating him for ruining the door. Sometimes the only way to make the remakes watchable for me is to pretend like they came after the 4th film, and over time Leatherface just got more vicious because of all his losses.
That's a pretty plausible theory, except Baby is Captain Spaulding's daughter. When it comes to the little girl, I don't like the theory that she is Leatherface's child, since having sex and begetting children just seems beyond him, even if he showed an interest in Stretch in the 2nd film( which I doubt he would have done anything about).
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I did like Drayton, I loved how in the 2nd film he said "You Fudgepackers Are Gonna Be The Death Of Me"
If Vilmer was in the original films do you think he would've been the leader or do you think he would've been in the position of someone like Tex or Tinker? I do like that idea with Leatherface becoming more vicious because of the losses, he's mentally retarded but he still knows when he's lost someone?
I think if Baby wasn't Captain Spaulding (who is awesome in his own right) Daughter I could easily see her being the little girl from the 3rd film, I also think that the little girl was Tex's daughter since Tex actually seems to show compassion to her.
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Vilmer might struggle for authority if Drayton was around, since he might still respect his uncle's authority, but he would still need to be kept in line and put in place. It might be like how Nubbins clearly disregarded and made fun of Drayton, but still mostly did what he said if threats were involved.
I'm sure the losses of his family affected Leatherface even more so because he was not a normal, independent man who could just start his own life. He needed them like how a child would, so there was more dependence.
Her being Tex's daughter would make much more sense. Although many people think that he was probably gay, but many crossdessers are heterosexual, so him putting on feminine things doesn't prove anything.
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I never thought Tex was gay, he just seemed like a straight cross-dresser, and he did defiantly seem like he was more of a father figure to the little girl.
I think a confrontation between Tex and Vilmer would be very interesting since they both look relatively normal but are possibly the craziest member of their families and I'm not sure if Vilmer would listen to Drayton because Vilmer could probably bully his way around Drayton since Vilmer looks like he could kick Drayton's teeth in if he wanted to.
Out of curiosity who's your favourite TCM protagonist? Mine's probably Michelle or Benny from the third film.
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I like how Leatherface and his family are capable of being kind and human to each other. They show no mercy to their victims, but they aren't just vicious to everyone all the time. a
I don't think Vilmer would listen to anyone because of his incredibly instability. I think W.E was his older brother, but he payed him no mind and even knocked him out. He'd probably not hesitate to hurt Drayton (or anyone) the same way. It makes me wonder if anyone in the family would even want him around, like even they would think him to crazy to put up with.
Honestly, I don't think I have one. Maybe Stretch because she made some logical decisions to stay alive. I think the Alien series are the only horror movies were I prefer the protagonists. Heroes are usually only as good as their threats. The antagonists are always more interesting to me.
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Vilmer was great because he was so different from the other Sawyers, I really liked W.E as well with his quotes and culture, they would've been better additions to the older films than the remakes and it would be interesting, do you think Vilmer would be a black sheep like Alfredo? Maybe that's why the family treated Alfredo like a black sheep because he was so unstable (I don't even think Tinker was that unstable compared to Alfredo and Tex) and it the scene when Tinker says 'Technology is our friend' to Tex I thought Alfredo would've been there, black sheep or not they've still got to have him around the dinner table.
I hate horror 'protagonists' because they're bland, uninteresting and just stupid as fuck, the only exception for me is The Scream films, the protagonists there are just awesome.
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He was different, but alike enough to be related. I think W.E uses all those quotes as defense mechanisms, maybe to distance himself by hiding behind logic, since never saying anything individual seems unhealthy. Vilmer is a loose-canon, so even his family might have standards of normal. I'm sure they tolerate him, but I wouldn't invite someone over that often if they would start altercations, break stuff, and spout conspiracy theories every single visit. Tinker might have been the one to design and build that legbrace of Vilmer's, so I imagine he would only want Vilmer around so he could tinker on that. Family is very important to them, but there's only so much people cans stand. Big family reunions of theirs would have more fireworks than the 4th of July.
Some of the protagonists in the Nightmare on Elm street series are tolerable, but many of them are frustrating caricatures. No matter how much you yell at the tv, they do the stupidest things until you are rooting for them to die.
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I personally think that W.E was really interesting and I can see how it's used as a defence mechanism and I really see W.E and Tinker getting a long some how, one wonders how the family house system works with them because technically W.E was older than Vilmer and yet he isn't the leader, it's the same question I ask with Alfredo if he was older than Tex and the rest of them, how is he the black sheep when he should be the head of the house-hold based on age alone?
The protagonists from The Strangers instantly spring to mind for me.
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I think those two might get along OK. I wonder if W.E would ever feel comfortable enough around someone to speak with his own words. And I bet that the rest of the family would dislike Darla too.
I think that from a primal perspective, the more well-built, larger person tend to try to be the alpha-male and show dominance. Since Alfredo and W.E are thinner and not as strong, their forced the be pushed around by younger brothers. And i'm sure their little siblings might be dishing out payback from a childhood of having to listen and respect them.
For some reason, I never saw that movie. But I might if I know it's creepy enough even with seemingly ordinary antagonists.
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But none of The Sawyers have ever been that big, Vilmer was just the size of a normal guy as was Drayton but I think W.E and Alfredo are slightly skinnier but not so much so that it's noticeable I think Alfredo is the black sheep because of his speech impediment and his different coloured eyes and W.E isn't the head of the house-hold because Vilmer is such a psychopath, I'm guessing that Vilmer's one of the youngest Sawyers, he looks like he's in his mid twenties, I also think that my favourite new Sawyer family members were Vilmer, W.E and Sheriff Hoyt, who was awesome.
The killers were creepy and the premise was realistic and creepy but the protagonists had me face-palming but it uses suspense and atmosphere as opposed to the body count and gore, I personally find atmosphere and suspense to the gore and body-count.
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I'm guessing that being more traditionally handsome , like Vilmer and Tex, can make people feel they have more of a final say on things. If someone is thinner, they might end up looking like the runt of the litter. I bet Hoyt serves almost as authoritarian father-figure for those guys in Leatherface's familial age group, since many of them don't have their dad's around and they would need some order or else they would get themselves hurt doing dangerous, unwise things. Horrible things would happen if they all got wasted.
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Sherriff Hoyt was a phenomenal character and R Lee Ermey did a fantastic job playing the role, I genuinely rooted against him because he was that good of being a ruthless bastard to anyone and everyone, the confrontation with Hoyt, Drayton and Vilmer would be a wild one at the dinner table for sure.
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I imagine Leatherface and a few of the older ladies would be the only ones not yelling obscenities or fighting. I just noticed that Alfredo has the similar type of crazy as Chop-Top and Nubbins, so I bet they would get along in their random way.
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Defiantly, I'd also find it interesting to see Vilmer and Alfredo, do you think Vilmer would treat Alfredo any better than he does W.E?
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No, he might actually treat him worse. Alfredo is mouthy and not afraid to speak his mind, and not afraid of those who bully him. In a crazy argument, he'd say something brash, and Vilmer would get even more agitated and try to hit/knock him out like he did W.E. Since he's more of a fighter than W.E, Fred might be more combative, or just do nothing with the whole "fuck you, mister" response.
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Alfredo was one of the best things about the film and do you think that Tic would get along with Vilmer since Tic is also unafraid to speak his mind and he's obviously not fearful, he called Tex 'Eddie' not once, but twice, which is pretty ballsy of him.
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Maybe Tic would try to get along with him at first, but Vilmer might take offense to something he says and go off on a crazy tangent and want to inflict harm. I picture that if they ever got along, the relationship may eventually sour due to the volatility of both of them.
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I can imagine that, Tic would be like a sort of Alfredo like black sheep only Tic's younger and not afraid to get into fist fights as he showed when he called Tex 'Eddie' and the two nearly came to blows, I'm pretty sure Tic's ostracized thanks to his nervous twitch/tic and ironically the two members of the family he likes are Alfredo and Tech/Tinker.
Imagine Tic getting into a confrontation with Sherriff Hoyt, I don't think Hoyt would think twice about insulting Tic for his twitch and punching his lights out, so Tic is Alfredo's younger brother so I'm guessing he'd be another one of Hoyt's or Drayton's kids.
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I'm guessing Drayton had some siblings. Like maybe Tex/Tinker/Alfredo's mother is his sister, and maybe Hoyt might be a cousin. I always imagine Hoyt's mother as being Drayton's aunt, but she would still be a grandmotherly figure. I'm pretty sure that Hoyt would give everyone a hard time, like fighting with Drayton over who gets the final say and giving all the young men the drill sergeant behavior like he was back in Korea.
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I could imagine that and I imagine Tic and Alfredo getting treated even worse if Hoyt was the leader of the family because he would probably kick the shit out of both of them for no reason at all, Hoyt was probably the best part of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 in my opinion.
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Hoyt's definitely a bully, and very controlling, even to his mother and uncle. At least Drayton shows some paternal concern, even to potential victims he's never met, like Sally.
I thought the later remakes had too much blatant in-your-face fanservice and gore that not every horror film needs. I also thought Hoyt getting hit by a truck in the first one was a bit out of nowhere. I was like "did you really need to do that, lady? You couldn't just drive away without hitting somebody" because he was a good character and I don't think repaying violence with violence is ever an ideal decision.
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Defiantly, R Lee Ermey was phenomenal as the role, since apparently he's a really nice guy away from all the controlling bully characters he's been known to portray and I could imagine the best characters from all the films would be the most fucked up incarnation with Alfredo, Tic, Vilmer, Chop-Top, Drayton, Hoyt and Tex. God the arguments that Hoyt and Vilmer would get in would be the only time when Alfredo and Tic were happy to leave to dispose of the bodies.
I know, he was a great character but he deserved what he got, why they didn't get R Lee Ermey for the originals is beyond me because I've never seen a lot of his acting stuff when he was younger.
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I guess in the originals, they would not need him. The same could be said if someone asked why weren't the victims of the remakes in the originals. Different stories require different characters. Since Drayton is the patriarch of the family in the originals, another person to fight for the role would add more conflict that would distract too much from the plot. Tinker's family would not even have showed up if Drayton hadn't died and Leatherface had a place to go.
In the 3rd one, did you noticed Chop Top on the radio in Michelle's car in the beginning? He was doing a prison interview, rambling about stuff like people drowning in the blood.
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True and I guess if you had too much stuff going on when it wasn't required it wouldn't have been as good of a movie, I really loved how the original was mostly shot in the day-time and how did Drayton actually die? I know Chop-Top got kicked from a great height but how did Drayton die, I can't remember?
I did notice that and apparently it has 'Lick My Plate' somewhere on Alfredo's gas station, makes you wonder if maybe he inherited it from Chop-Top some how? I mean who else would've written that there, also I'm starting to think that maybe Alfredo isn't as big of a black sheep as I thought I mean his family gave him a gas station all to himself, which is pretty cool, I just loved him in that scene with the 'I'm gonna service you really good baby' line to Michelle, Tom Everett did a phenomenal job portraying the character and he could be my favourite Sawyer family member, in a way he's scarier than Leatherface because you could actually meet a sick motherfucker like Alfredo but you've got hardly any chance of meeting someone like Leatherface, know what I mean?
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Chop Top was actually the one to survive. Drayton got out a grenade and was planning to kill himself, but i think he would have changed his mind had it not gone off prematurely. That's how he, grandpa, and that annoying cowboy with the chainsaw died.
I think Chop Top wrote that while visiting. Maybe Alfredo got along with Chop Top very well, or else he would have gotten mad erased that graffiti. Maybe him getting the gas station job might be evidence that they wanted to keep him busy and away from everyone. Tex said Alfredo went crazy after he lost his job at the slaughter house, i think that implies that maybe the family was closer to Alfredo before, but then he changed.
Leatherface is just happens to look big and scary, but i think he is the least threatening. If no one gave him a chainsaw, he wouldn't do any harm. The rest of his family are sociopaths who actively lure and butcher people, so they are far more of a reasonable threat.
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I hated that scene, so did Tex mean normal by 'Sawyer Family' standards or normal by normal person standards because I couldn't imagine Alfredo acting like a normal human being, I do love Alfredo but I spent most of the movie trying to work out what the hell he was saying, I picked out certain words but in the scene when he had a shotgun to Michelle I could pick out "You too good for me huh? you too good for me?" and "You hit front and I'll fuck you in half" made me wonder if Tom Everett was actually told to play the character like that and he does look kinda normal.
I'm also guessing Alfredo was close to Tinker seeing as he allowed Tinker to keep his monster truck in his gas station, then again since Alfredo's the runt of the litter I'm thinking he didn't have much choice, I sympathised with Alfredo more than even Leatherface because Alfredo's been treated like shit for ages and he just accepts it, in a way I based Tic on Alfredo who's more open about his distain for the family, Tic and Tex would've probably gotten into a brawl in the fic I wrote had Momma not intervened.
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I'm guessing Alfredo was never normal by regular standards. Maybe before he lost his job, he might have had less violent, shot-gun wielding outbursts. It may have further unhinged him and made him more unpredictable. I think part of the reason they ostracized him is because they can't manipulate him. Leatherface is easy to control, and pretty much everyone in his family likes him. It was easier for me to understand him when I watch it with subtitles. Maybe Alfredo is tired of everyone looking down on him, that's probably why he freaked out and accused her of acting to good for him, just like everyone else. I bet Everett had allot fun playing him, they probably told him what to do and he just rolled with it.
I thought it was like how people hand their keys to valets and have them park their cars, which has a hint of bragging to it. I think Alfredo has a pick up truck (I think that in every part of the family, someone get that job) but I imagine they all would have been hesitant about letting him drive. Leatherface is almost the special baby of the family, definitely was treated far better than most of them. Drayton did not yell and discipline him nearly as bad as his other two kids.
One of the things that confused me about the third one was paternity. I wonder of Tex, Tinker, and Alfredo all have different fathers. Maybe Tinker and Tex do have the same father (while Tex looks more like his mom). If Alfredo is their half brother, they might not feel as close to him. That isn't how it is with my half-brother, but that clan has very a twisted hierarchy going on.
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Alfredo was such a great character and I think he's the only member of the family in the 3rd one who goes by his original name, Tex hates being called Eddie, we never find out the real name of Tinker, Little Girl or Momma.
I think it's his baby-like attitude that makes it creepier because he doesn't know what he's doing and therefore you could tell him anything and he'd go a head and do it and I sometimes actually wonder if Leatherface looks normal under that mask, I imagine him as having a beard and almost looking like Alan from The Hangover for some reason, and to be honest if I was Alfredo I would've just taken Tinker's truck out for a spin, his family hate him anyway, it's not like he's got much to lose and I just have this image of Tom just corpsing with some of the Alfredo lines, he was a great actor and a perfect person to play that character and he did a good job of having a humour to the movie, kinda like what Chop-Top did in the 2nd film, I loved it the scene when Chop-Top's introduced and Leatherface comes running in and takes the wig off and when the radio host runs off Leatherface is still standing there and Chop-Tops like 'Get the girl ya' idiot" Bill Mosely is one of my favourite actors, he's a really funny and nice dude apparently which is awesome.
Have you seen the one when Leatherface is on the top of a tow-truck and chasing this car at night over a bridge? Leatherface just looks like a damn puppet, I don't think it was Next Generation or 3D but I've seen it and it looked so mediocre.
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Many of the young men in that family go by nicknames. Maybe Chop-Top, Tinker, Tex, and W.E all have very traditional names that they don't relate to. Tex is probably named Edward, and W.E's name might be something like William. It turns out Drayton actually called Chop-Top 'Paul' during the film. With his other kids named Nubbins and Bubba, I don't think he took the task of naming them seriously.
Since he had no idea of the severity of what he was doing, he might get a free pass while the others have genuinely psychopathic tendencies. But because they got used to butchering at the slaughterhouses and they don't have any other means for food, it was something they almost had to do. I felt so bad for Drayton, because he was reluctant and actually wanted to make a normal life for himself with that business of his. I think Leatherface probably does look normal. But he might have low self-esteem and just be very self-conscious. He also likes playing dress-up, so it doesn't mean he is deformed like the remakes imply.
Bill Moseley automatically improves whatever movie he's in, and all his lines are usually so badass and hilarious. He's also a pretty handsome man, even with all the unflattering makeup people put on him
It's been so long since I've seen any of them (since my original movie collection was stolen years ago) but it think it might have been in the second movie. I sort of remember it happening after they left the radio station.
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I really felt sorry to some degree for Drayton but he was still hateable enough to be a good villain that you wanted to see get his comeuppance and I think Bill Moseley is still pretty good looking for his age and all that, if I was making a horror film he'd defiantly be one of the people I'd want in it, also if you google Tom Everett who played Alfredo, you'll see he hasn't aged much at all which is pretty interesting.
I think that was it but I remember two guys in the car and the roof was cut off, the tow-truck was in reverse.
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Drayton was very reluctant and regretful, actually thinking what they were doing was wrong, which makes him singular in a family were every member seemed to be born without a conscious. Rob Zombie films would definitely be less watchable without Bill. I did think Alfredo's actor looked more interesting than guys like Tex, traditionally attractive people are very generic and boring to me, which is why drawing Alfredo was fun. I wonder if anyone in his family ever calls him 'Fred' as a nickname.
Yep, I googled it to make sure, it was the second film.
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I wonder if maybe Chop-Top had a conscious before Vietnam and all that jazz? Drayton was defiantly oddly likeable in an old-school father way despite what was going on, also I defiantly think that Bill helped make the movies into something great but even Bill couldn't save the Halloween remakes, nothing against Zombie but he's better when he's doing his own thing and not remaking classics, I must admit when I first saw the film I never saw Alfredo's two different coloured eyes and I don't know why but Alfredo mentioned he was in Tupelo, maybe he's the only Sawyer not from Texas or something.
Thanks for the help dude
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