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zortharg [2014-05-04 04:09:27 +0000 UTC]
What an infuriating story. Not that I hadn't heard it before. But just to be reminded. Since they could have bred them branching out with unrelated individuals for a few generations and then bred the 3rd or 4th cousins together and if they had done that, white tigers today would be as healthy as orange ones but no, they had to put him with his own daughter because they needed instant gratification and they didn't care about consequences.
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LightningDraco [2013-11-20 21:47:02 +0000 UTC]
Aren't some white tigers blind from the white gene?
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Cabres [2013-02-01 00:31:02 +0000 UTC]
Interesting fact stated. But, as you stated, you're not stating rare occurences don't happen in the wild on a fair shade less inbreeding scale. You're stating it's just EXTREMELY rare, and zoos disgustingly take the easy route. Shameful on these stupid gimmic-based organizations. Keep it right and keep it real.
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cinnamon2009 [2013-01-03 18:06:58 +0000 UTC]
:sigh: wow i love tigers and even though i can never have one i want one lol
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Darkstar7016 [2012-11-23 05:37:19 +0000 UTC]
*sigh* Tigers are so intensely beautiful. <3
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OmarArRTs [2012-11-22 21:02:28 +0000 UTC]
These white tiger could live in somewhere cold, where white snow is.
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NaturePunk In reply to OmarArRTs [2012-11-23 05:17:20 +0000 UTC]
No. The white mutation only exists in Bengal tigers. They do not live in snowy climates.
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OmarArRTs In reply to NaturePunk [2012-11-23 17:17:53 +0000 UTC]
Is it the same thing with White Lions?
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NaturePunk In reply to OmarArRTs [2012-11-23 23:01:56 +0000 UTC]
Nope. White lions have more than one breeding founder, and a different genetic code. White tigers can only produce if both parents are carriers of the white allele. White lions can produce even if just one has it. This means that the need to inbreed is not necessary, though white lions are still at a disadvantage in nature, since darker skin co-relates to higher levels of testosterone, which makes males with dark manes more attractive to females. White lions rarely ever mate to pass on there genes without human intervention, though it has happened in isolated populations.
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OmarArRTs In reply to NaturePunk [2012-11-24 12:04:46 +0000 UTC]
Cant the white lions live in some place snowy? They would have advantage there in nature.
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megadracosaurus In reply to OmarArRTs [2015-04-29 17:05:15 +0000 UTC]
The color may match...But they'd freeze to death.
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NaturePunk In reply to OmarArRTs [2012-11-24 15:03:43 +0000 UTC]
Lions don't live in snow. Anywhere on earth. Ever.
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ValiantShadow [2012-11-02 15:45:13 +0000 UTC]
This is a gorgeous photo, and your information seems well-worded and accurate. I feel strongly about the breeding of white tigers, and I'm so glad you posted this, because every person who helps spread the information is helping to awaken the world to the senseless cruelty that comes with the beauty of a white tiger.
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Birdie121 [2012-09-25 00:52:48 +0000 UTC]
This is beautiful! May I draw it for my art portfolio? ^^
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NaturePunk In reply to Birdie121 [2012-09-25 05:30:16 +0000 UTC]
So long as the finished image is not intended for sale, that is fine by me.
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115spartan [2012-08-01 20:47:08 +0000 UTC]
I love white Tigers
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NaturePunk In reply to 115spartan [2012-08-02 03:10:05 +0000 UTC]
They're created in captivity through repeated inbreeding and suffer numerous mental and physical health issues as a result. Even in the wild, they don't last long since the coloration does not provide camouflage.
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SaphireTiger1 [2012-06-29 05:43:15 +0000 UTC]
The truth is out!
IN YOUR FACE, public service announcement!
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Roxaskeyblademaster [2012-05-10 03:59:54 +0000 UTC]
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This picture is both informative and well taken so I hope you like this
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chibifool [2012-03-02 04:26:03 +0000 UTC]
wow i never knew that about white tigers, thank you for sharing
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lithium-moon [2011-11-28 17:02:24 +0000 UTC]
This is a beautiful picture, and an exceptionally informative, well written piece in description. I was one of the ignorant that didn't realize the white tiger was a defective mutation borne of inbreeding - I actually did think that it was simply a naturally occurring trait in Siberian tigers.
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WarthogBaby [2011-04-17 15:27:31 +0000 UTC]
I am allowed to use this image for help on a drawing I am making?
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NaturePunk In reply to WarthogBaby [2011-04-17 18:50:17 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, I do not allow personal use of my images. This includes reference for drawings.
Thank you for asking, though!
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WarthogBaby In reply to NaturePunk [2011-04-17 19:55:39 +0000 UTC]
Oh .. Well I wont really care. I am just not going to upload it to DA.
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NaturePunk In reply to WarthogBaby [2011-04-19 02:32:08 +0000 UTC]
I hope you realize that aside from being highly disrespectful, your action is also illegal. An All Rights Reserved copyright means that you cannot use any of my licensed work FOR ANY REASON without permission. And I haven't given that permission to you whatsoever. So your above statement could be used against you in a court of law.
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WarthogBaby In reply to NaturePunk [2011-04-19 07:24:16 +0000 UTC]
I am looking forward to see how you are going to stop me.
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ignajupi [2011-03-25 22:59:25 +0000 UTC]
OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!!! PLOP im dead really loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it OMG OMG
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Sethian-Motzart [2011-03-25 21:33:30 +0000 UTC]
I knew there had to be some inbreeding involved, but I didn't think it was still going on. I'd have thought that they would have caught more wild white ones (some white animals do actually manage to survive) or naturally bred a captive white one at some point. Beautiful piece, but makes me sad.
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NaturePunk In reply to Sethian-Motzart [2011-03-26 02:30:45 +0000 UTC]
Sadly, the last wild white tiger was a malnourished subadult found not too far from there the original Mohan was captured. Villagers feared that the tiger would start attacking livestock in its weakened state, so they shot it dead. That was in 1958, and none have been officially recorded since.
And though there have been reports of white tigers appearing 'naturally' in zoos, the issue is that not all tigers born to white parents will be white themselves, meaning than an orange tiger carrying the white gene can mate with another orange tiger also carrying the white gene and potentially produce white offspring. This has lead to a lot of misconceptions in zoos, which claim that because two orange tigers made a white cub, it must be a new strain. But all tigers carrying the white gene are related, regardless of whether or not they are white themselves.
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NaturePunk In reply to Sethian-Motzart [2011-03-27 21:54:21 +0000 UTC]
The trait for white genes does not show up in pure Siberian bloodlines (the idea of a white tiger in snow is pure myth), but Siberian tigers are cossbred to Bengals to make the Bengals look bigger for show. This has lead to a lot of misconceptions.
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NaturePunk In reply to Sethian-Motzart [2011-03-28 21:19:30 +0000 UTC]
While it is possible (in theory) for all mammals to have luestic genes, it has never shown up in the Siberian bloodline in the wild or in captivity. This could be because Siberian tigers have so few breeding founders in captivity. If none of these founders were carring the gene, it would not show up in the resulting offspring unless they were cross-bred to another tiger of a different subpsecies that was.
In the wild, Siberian tigers have never exhibited the white coloration, either. This could be because, like Bengal tigers, the mothers of white cubs will kill or abandon the abnormally-pigmented offspring due to their lesser chance of survival to adulthood. Now, with so few Siberian tigers left, the gene may have been completely wiped out from wild populations, just as they were in captivity.
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moonscream [2011-03-25 12:05:01 +0000 UTC]
Although I know that the white tiger is simply a gene mutation, I had no idea they came from a single tiger or that they were only possible through inbreeding.
When you put it that way, the whole prospect of breeding them seems rather sick. It really doesn't matter what they look like on the outside when there is so much risk of birth defects and illnesses. I can really only imagine what so many years and generations of inbreeding does to a species.
It gets even worse if breeding them actually takes money from preserving the natural tiger species. Therefore, I agree with you completely.
This was eye opening and informative. Posting it alongside the photo was a great idea.
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NaturePunk In reply to moonscream [2011-03-25 12:22:39 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! And yes, it is unfortunate that they are all descended from a single breeding founder. I always avoid zoos which display white tigers for both reasons that you mentioned above: They're inbred and they take up space, money, and resources that could be used for real conservation. It's sad to think that so many people are blinded by the media's portrayal of these cats as 'rare' or 'endangered'. The first step to making a difference is simply to educate and spread the word.
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moonscream In reply to NaturePunk [2011-03-26 10:37:28 +0000 UTC]
You're certainly doing a good job of it. Fortunately, I don't think our zoos here have any white tigers.
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