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neogoki In reply to ??? [2018-01-23 11:26:49 +0000 UTC]
Because Archer cleaned it all up?
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DatTemplar In reply to neogoki [2018-01-23 11:42:59 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much, the only person who died in the whole thing was Lancer!! FROM INFECTION!!!!
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JOAOBATMAN22 [2017-11-12 16:20:06 +0000 UTC]
Satan- Devil.Servant.House Cleaner
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neogoki In reply to JOAOBATMAN22 [2017-11-13 19:38:22 +0000 UTC]
isn't Rin the Devil in that house?
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JOAOBATMAN22 In reply to neogoki [2017-11-13 22:33:09 +0000 UTC]
If You Watch The Abridged Of Fate UBW You Undestand.
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Ciel-Spade [2016-03-10 06:26:53 +0000 UTC]
Best servant ever - mostly 'cause any other servant would probably kill their masters . . .
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neogoki In reply to Ciel-Spade [2016-03-10 07:14:53 +0000 UTC]
maybe half of them
Archer just does worse than killing Rin, he teases her into a tsun-out!
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Kitsune1Naito [2015-09-03 02:03:43 +0000 UTC]
From Nasu himself: βLike comments such as βChampion of Butlersβ said, he is an all-purpose character who performs well in battle, housework, and sarcasm. Heβs definitely a good purchase if you, as a Master Candidate, wishes to experience the elegant life of nobles.β
He should change his Class from Archer to Butler. LOLΒ
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Uradin [2015-04-06 22:09:07 +0000 UTC]
You'd think the daughter of one of the founding families would know that treating a Servant this way is, what academics call, a bloody stupid idea...
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Uradin In reply to Elly3981 [2015-04-11 18:38:09 +0000 UTC]
Not really. The command seals provide three commands that are near-impossible for the servant to defy, as well as the power to make the command real with very few constraints. That said, the Command Seals does jack all to ensure constant obedience. They can best be described as three "Get-Out-Of-Fuck-Up-Free-Cards". The reasons they obey the Master in the Grail Wars generally consist of a common goal, (sometimes grudgingly) respect for the cermony and the fact that when a servant is summoned without cataclyst, the Master recieve a Servant that match their personality, so in these cases the Servant respect the Master because they are somewhat alike. But no, possessing Command Seals alone doesn't garantee obedience all the time until the seals are used up. Had Tohsaka acted like this with, say, CΓΊ Chulainn (F/SN Lancer) as Servant, it'd have made little to stay in his good grace, and I doubt that he'd be as patient as Archer.Β
. . . Did this make any sense, or did I mess up the typing?
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Elly3981 In reply to Uradin [2015-04-12 06:04:25 +0000 UTC]
Funny you say that because not all servant/master teams are comparable in goals or personality. Gil obviously didn't like Tokiomi and Lancer hated Kotomine but both were bound by the command seals to their masters' will. Saber also didn't like Kiritsugu because she thought his methods were less then honorable. Its kind of ironic that in Fate/Zero, the only masters who had close relationships with their servants were Waver and Ryunosuke. Also, I believe that servants must protect their masters at all cost because they are the anchor that binds them to the human plane; if they lose their masters, servants will dissappear though some can last longer then others without a master, giving them enough time to make a contract with another master.
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Uradin In reply to Elly3981 [2015-04-12 09:26:10 +0000 UTC]
well yes, that's the thing with using cataclysts: choosing between having a Servant with great legend with the possibility of great power over the Grail giving you a Servant that suit you. And with the matter of anchors, that's more a case of simple survival-instinct then any garantee of loyalty. After all, Gilgamesh did ditch Tokiomi in favour of Kotomine.
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Elly3981 In reply to Uradin [2015-04-12 16:32:37 +0000 UTC]
Gil is a very difficult servant to control; he doesn't like being given orders and I'm sure he would have killed Tokiomi himself if not for the command seals. He chose Kotomine as his new master partly because they have similar goals and partly because Kotomine is more willing to let Gil do whatever he wants. It does help for a servant and master to have mutual respect and understanding and even better if they could be friends.
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Elly3981 In reply to Uradin [2015-04-12 17:44:13 +0000 UTC]
Maybe true. Romantic relationships between masters and servants are also interesting to see. If they are of the opposite gender.
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Elly3981 In reply to Uradin [2015-04-12 21:44:59 +0000 UTC]
Yes, if you noticed, nearly all the servant/master relationships where the two are of the opposite gender ended tragically.
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Uradin In reply to Elly3981 [2015-04-12 22:04:26 +0000 UTC]
was thinking more in line of "without-the-grail-support-you-can-probably-cout-the-amount-of-magi-with-enough-Prana-to-support-a-servant-on-one-hand" but yeah, generally doesn't end happy either way. But then, in the Nasuverse, Γt seems like the concept of a happy ending is an impossibility...
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neogoki In reply to Uradin [2015-04-07 06:00:05 +0000 UTC]
the Tosaka Family Founder has been known for acting in ways that made Zelretch cry out "Are you crazy?"
Rin seems to have that trait as well
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Uradin In reply to neogoki [2015-04-07 07:15:22 +0000 UTC]
mhm. things like thinking you can control the King of Heroes, partaking in the Grail War more then once and basing your entire magecraft around invaluable gems...
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neogoki In reply to Uradin [2015-04-07 07:20:00 +0000 UTC]
yup, crazy stuff like that and then some
though some of it seems to comes form simply lacking common sense
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neogoki In reply to Uradin [2015-04-07 10:15:31 +0000 UTC]
there are some very nice scenes about that in F/HA (currently playing it)
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Uradin In reply to neogoki [2015-04-07 11:44:46 +0000 UTC]
Rin has a cellphone? As in, Rin-who-can't-use-anything-more-complex-then-a-vcr? Sounds like a tsundere-trigger waiting to happen...
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neogoki In reply to Uradin [2015-04-07 14:35:42 +0000 UTC]
classic magi-pride, even Waver was surprised how much more efficent the use of some tech is compared to pure magics
then again I doubt Tokiomi ever informed himself about the current tech
wanna see what came THEN?
sta.sh/0zokissl1sa
sta.sh/01yq4t4cpu0v
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neogoki In reply to Uradin [2015-04-07 14:43:47 +0000 UTC]
and the specials! don't forget these.
seeing Taiga Fujimura from ten years ago with Iri-Sensei in action is so delicious and educational!
a perfect elegant mess
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Syrox-495 [2014-10-21 18:20:46 +0000 UTC]
Black broom and white dustpan...yeah he's set for the Holy Grail War.
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neogoki In reply to Syrox-495 [2014-10-21 18:25:31 +0000 UTC]
and so he declares:
Unlimited Cleaness Works
time to scrub of Angra Manyu from the Greater Grail
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Syrox-495 In reply to neogoki [2014-10-21 18:28:41 +0000 UTC]
All of the World's Evils...do you have enough grime to be clean up?
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neogoki In reply to Syrox-495 [2014-10-21 20:21:41 +0000 UTC]
and once Archer has finished the Grail, he goes after Nurgle!
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neogoki In reply to Syrox-495 [2014-10-22 15:44:17 +0000 UTC]
from Warhammer 40000, the Great Chaos God of Pestilence, Lord of the Great unclean Ones
Papa Nurgle, who loves everybody so much that he invents a horrible Illness for each living being
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Andarion [2014-10-05 20:41:12 +0000 UTC]
"I ask you King of Heroes, have you got enough maids to compete with me?"
Rin's interactions with Archer were adorable, especially blushing and getting angry because he was putting her down... I wonder if it wasn't all just for fun. I mean he could finally get back at Rin for making his life miserable when he was still human XD
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Elly3981 In reply to Andarion [2015-03-28 17:55:54 +0000 UTC]
I think Archer was also trying to discourage Rin from fighting out of concern for her safety, not just because he wanted to go after Shirou.
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neogoki In reply to Andarion [2014-10-06 05:21:08 +0000 UTC]
LOL
I think it was mostly for Archer's fun, sure if she had complied he could execute his plan, but at some point he had to remember Rin's personality
not that he can always defeat Rin even after becoming a scary future Badass
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Elly3981 In reply to neogoki [2015-03-28 17:57:41 +0000 UTC]
I can kind of tell Rin has a thing for Archer and yet finds herself strangely attracted to Shirou as well.
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