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Sirena-Voyager [2013-04-05 22:55:39 +0000 UTC]
I prefer Dr. Crusher over Dr. Pulaski, but you did a nice job of drawing her!
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millylove1098 In reply to nightwing1975 [2013-03-31 01:59:25 +0000 UTC]
Your welcome, even though I don't really like Pulaski, she's a nice person really. <3
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Godzilla713 [2012-05-03 03:43:12 +0000 UTC]
Very nice
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JLMacDonald [2011-09-02 13:34:30 +0000 UTC]
It's nice to see some Pulaski fan art out there. Great job capturing her likeness.
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SamGamgee [2011-08-28 00:43:43 +0000 UTC]
Ha! No one gets left out here. Good job! Nice expression.
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overseer [2011-08-26 16:38:57 +0000 UTC]
Another nice one. I think she got a little underrated overall. Big shoes to fill and only one season, but she certainly had her moments!
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overseer In reply to overseer [2011-08-26 16:41:00 +0000 UTC]
P.S.: Anyone wanting to know more about her, read one of the Double Helix novels. I think it's the second or third maybe. I can't remember. It plays on DS9 BEFORE the end of the Cardassian Occupation and Pulaski plays quite an impressive part in it.
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-11-28 23:56:22 +0000 UTC]
You have 'excellent' taste in literature. Easily my favorite Medical themed Star Trek book. (And oddly, the only medical themed Double Helix novel I've read. Curious, considering the theme of the Helix series.)
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-11-29 00:44:44 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. And yes, for a medical themed book it certainly carries the storyline excitingly well. But then Pulaski definitely had (compared to all TNG seasons) more chances to shine in season 2 than Dr. Crusher did the rest of the time. Even if she had her moments. Sadly in case of Crusher her spotlight was either command based ('Descent') or it was only preliminary a medical issue ('Suspicions') where she uses the death of a Ferengi scientist to prove that his Metaphasic Shields actually work. The list goes on.
I guess the authors felt that the basic working mechanisms of the virii had already been explored sufficiently and re-explaining served no purpose over and over again. Not sure. Frankly it's been a few years since last I read the series, so I can't recall all the details from memory at present.
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-11-29 12:53:29 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. Dr. Crusher didn't sit well with me either. She was just kinda... there. She never had an opinion on anything that wasn't the token medial humanitarian one. So most of her appearances were throw away. And it is very very strange that her 6 seasons of appearances never seemed to top Pulaski's 1. Makes you wonder why there was so much demand for her to return in the first place.
And, you may be right with regards to the medical mechanisms... but turning the table around, how many command/security books have there been period? Maybe they just weren't inspired?
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-11-29 16:05:45 +0000 UTC]
Well, it's neither Crusher's nor Gates McFadden's fault that the writers couldn't come up with better stories for her. I think the reason she was brought back were internal issues and I recall problems with Diana Muldaur keeping track of her scripts. That's most likely part of the real world stuff.
I think overall Bashir for example had much better storylines to prove himself, so did Voyager's EMH as well as TOS' bones and Dr Phlox even.
As for the books, it's easier to write about tactics, command and security in a future environment, because you can make things up as you go along. In terms of medical environments you have to keep it as accurate as possible, despite some fictional medication, because humans don't change that much over a couple of hundred years, so some knowledge about medicine might be required to write about it convincingly and so most authors probably don't do it.
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-11-29 17:22:28 +0000 UTC]
If I recall, the writers deliberately did not kill Crusher off in Season 1 because they wanted the opportunity for her to return at a later time. It makes me wonder what the difference was between Denise and Gates back in season 1 behind the scenes.
I also recall the rumor about Muldaur not keeping track of her scripts, but I read that on a forum and said forum didn't cite where that came from. I don't disbelieve the rumor, but I'd still like to have a canon source for it.
Right now, I'm watching DS9 for the first time, just reached season 5. So far, I think Bashir is tied for my least favorite cast member in DS9. (Second only to Sisko, who doesn't seem to do much captaining, and more cooking and familying). Thus far, Bashir only gets decent spotlight time when Garak is important. Thus a primary cast member is secondary to a returning guest character? Strange. Maybe they fix it later in the show. (But what's sad is that, he's 'still' better then Crusher... however marginally.
But I fully agree that Phlox and the EMH especially were much more interesting CMOs then Crusher. (Though, I'm personally not sure, EMH or Pulaski were the better CMO. I'm going to say the EMH, but Pulaski might've won if she had more then one season.)
I think the problem with the medical plots, is that the writers don't have a good grasp of the narrative, vs "Take a hypospray and call me in the morning". Pulaski's double helix novel was one of the rare glorious exceptions. It kinda ended abruptly, but it was riveting all the way.
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-11-30 05:40:28 +0000 UTC]
I actually liked DS9. They did a lot of character development, a lot more than any other of the shows in my opinion. Bashir has good moments, even without Garak and there will be some episodes later where he will continue to shine. I won't spoil anything, just mentioning a name: Sloane.
And as for Sisko, he doesn't get to be Captain from the start and given the stationary character of DS9 they couldn't do as much scenery change as the other more mobile shows, however, it will change in the coming seasons, even though I'm a little sadenned that they moved away so much of the science aspect, but then it all works well. I think they managed a good diversity given the heavy war aspect in the last 2-3 seasons. DS9 certainly has some of the best humorous character interaction of all the Trek shows. Especially Odo and Quark.
Voyager for example started off so well and then they killed it with continual Borg boredom. And Chakotay must have been the least influential XO I've ever seen. But hey. TNG was the only show that managed a balance, but that's what you get when Roddenbery's still around. Haven't seen much of Enterprise yet, but what I've seen was pretty dull and well, TOS just seems silly to me nowadays. None of the remastering saves that. The movies are OK though. The character dynamic is much better.
Anyway... I digress.
True to the medical episodes. I guess a lot of medical issues is dealt with doing research and most audiences (me not included) find that boring and so the action usually wins. I guess I count myself among the few who actually don't mind learning from the shows they watch. Given that Star Trek is one of the few sci-fi shows that tries to be as scientifically accurate as possible (within limits) that's a good thing.
To get back to the CMOs. What annoyed me about Crusher (sorry Gates McFadden) most was her voice. Whenever she got aggitated she got incredibly shrill. To the point that even Q commented on it. Other than that, fair enough.
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-11-30 10:35:31 +0000 UTC]
I must admit, now that I'm watching DS9 on netflix, and watching all the episodes sequentially the show is a million times better then when I originally watched it on television.
I'll take your word for it on Bashier. Poor kid needs some help. And it sort of makes sense that once the Dominion war kicks in that Sisko would (finally) have some command stuff to do. I'll just have to be patient and get to that point.
And my gosh. Quark, and especially season 1 Odo were my favorites. Odo is at his peak when he's unflappable. He sort of lost it a bit with his emotional and love growth, but still my favorite security officer in all of Star Trek. (Yes even above Worf).
And yeah. Voyager was a much better show then most are willing to give it credit, but even I'm not willing to over look how they killed the borg. Both figuratively and literally. The first confrontational borg episode Scorpion treated the borg as though they were indeed tactically at a major disadvantage against them. After that it was all down hill. Eventually they don't think twice about robbing and raiding borg vessels. Sorry, but that's not how you treat your biggest foe.
Enterprise... I intend to watch once I finish DS9. (And then from there the original Star Trek and the Animated series). But Enterprise, when I watched it on TV, suffered immensely from Captain Archer, an arrogant head butting leader. It doesn't help when your chief of security is a recluse, your Cheif Engineer encourages the Captain's bad behavior, the first officer's good judgement is always overridden. I felt that Hoshi and T'Pol were the only redeeming aspects of the show. And with T'Pol I'm giving the benefit of the doubt since Archer's problems forced T'Pol into a weak spot.
And you're right about the Chakotay being a weak XO. But then again, the XO's seem to be relatively weak characters in general. (In DS9, I actually thought Dax would've made a better first officer then Kira. Who, actually is one of the least weak XOs I've seen. But when a non-XO is acting more XO then the XO, it's sort of expands the problem.)
For TOS movies. I found them really hit and miss. The Wrath of Kahn I felt was way over rated. No fault of Kahn mind you, but Kirk going into combat with a crew of cadets into a combat situation. Not to mention, while Kahn had great motives to go after Kirk, Kirk for the most part didn't return the sentiment. And what state is Star Fleet in when there's not a single star ship in range of HQ but the Enterprise? My suspension of disbelief was shattered. I know I'm going to be shot for saying this, but I enjoyed the Search for Spock much more. The Klingons made much more convincing enemies and Kirk made much less stupid decisions. But by far, my favorite was the Undiscovered Country. It wrapped the series up, treated the Klingons with the dignity TNG treated the borg, great mystery, just a very strong movie in general.
As for Crusher's voice. I think my problem with it was, her voice was always in a calming monotone. It's hard to believe the galaxy is in danger if she says it as though everything will be alright. Though... I guess in reality, that'd give her the perfect bedside manner?
(Honestly, I don't think I've ever had this much fun talking about Star Trek in a good long while)
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-11-30 19:42:11 +0000 UTC]
TV never did it justice. Often it was out of sequence, too, let alone commercials.
DS9 has to be seen from the Bajoran point of view. Kiraβs attitude makes perfect sense then. A society beaten down and occupied by an alien race, forced into labor and submission and decimated to the point of poverty. And yet again another alien culture steps in claiming the same the Cardassians did, even if meaning it this time. It makes sense that there was a lot of distrust and arguments in the beginning.
Odo also gained a lot of sarcasm as the show progresses, so that is a good thing. His love/hate relationship with Quark is a lot of fun.
Voyagerβs mistake was to go far to mainstream. Nothing against Jeri Ryan, I know she is a good actress and far from the βdumb blondeβ stereotype, but Seven of Nine was one of my least favorite characters. In fact I found the constant sparring matches between her and Janeway quite tiresome after a while and otherwise if everything else failed, letβs get the nano probes working. I can understand that Kesβ character kind of reached an end, but the decision to bring in Seven was a marketing decision and not an advantage for the show. Star Trek is about science and not about boobs and if thatβs whatβs required to keep some random shmucks interested then they should have done what they did with Enterprise and quit after Season 4. Period.
What annoyed me in what Iβve seen of the Enterprise show up until now is the portrayal of the human race as some minor, hot headed and insufferable people with the arrogant Vulcans being proven right time and again, that they put a βspyβ on Archerβs ship. Of all the Trek shows they had the weakest and least memorable characters. So much potential wasted. And there was a lot of potential, especially showing races we havenβt seen much before. Andorians for example.
The TOS movies are good, because you can see that the cast gets on well. There is a certain chemistry, especially between Shatner and Nimoy and theyβre at an age where theyβre just having fun. And Shatner doesnβt take himself as seriously anymore.
Iβm the last one not to enjoy a good Trek discussionβ¦
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-11-30 20:14:39 +0000 UTC]
Jeri Ryan is a good actor. While, I admit I too rolled my eyes when they treated Seven of Nine as a sex object. I actually enjoyed her a lot as the show progressed at least up til the end of the final season where she seemed to act 'too' human. I think the moment that made me enjoy her the most was when Janeway was arguing with a Hirogen, rather then wait for diplomacy to fail, she sent a electrical shock through the alien's comm panel. I could visualize a giant red X being put over her application for Chief Communications officer. That and the fact that she can sing very well, and had some great dynamics with the EMH, she became one of my favorites. Also: Triva: Originally it was Harry Kim that was supposed to be dropped in favor of Seven of Nine. But he got on the cover of some magazine and the writers had to drop someone else instead in consequence. I was upset to see Kes go, but I do admit she seemed to have hit some sort of a plateau.
And honestly, I think Voyager needed Seven of Nine. I mean every show has an alien with a special affinity for humanity. Spock was half human and often went head to head on the topic of humanity. Odo was not humanoid, but had a bit of curiosity on the subject. Data was not human, but wanted to be. Seven was human, but abhorred it. It fit a particular Star Trek theme while still being original in its own right.
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-12-01 00:47:55 +0000 UTC]
You know what really annoyed me about Voyager? The first so many seasons they were constantly having power issues, limited supplies, had to haggle for materials to carry out maintenance, rebuild the nacelles, had 37 photon torpedoes left only, hell, even dropped to grey mode, having to stop at a Y class planet to refuel...
I really liked that, because it was realistic. Then suddenly none of that mattered. Granted, they found new power sources, made modifications to the warp core, had Seven eventually; but did that actually mean they could just replicate everything as required? Let's not forget that photon torpedoes work with matter/anti matter warheads. Anti matter cannot be replicated and I would surmise that Deuterium is also better put to use for, oh I don't know... unimportant systems such as... say... LIFE SUPPORT?
Voyager went way to action oriented for my taste, but I guess again the whole mainstream stuff. As for the humanization storylines. They didn't need Seven (even if she had a few really good episodes, like the one when they encounter a old Earth craft in a subspace eclipse). They had the EMH. Hell, they used an entire episode to graft another holomatrix onto his own to ensure his memory and program wouldn't collapse. Seven was a pure ratings decision. I have no problem with her character at all had she been used differently. Half the time it felt like Voyager suddenly had a button that said: "GOD MODE". Like the Borg have the answer to everything.
Other than that, of course it was a good show...
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-12-02 20:31:53 +0000 UTC]
Sorry about the delay.
Regarding Voyager and the day to day struggle to get a non-long range vessel to adapt to life without the Federation, I specifically remember Torres 'did' twist Janeways arm into doing a total overhaul in the last season. So it didn't disappear all together. Though, granted it was much less a significant part of day to day operations. Personally, I choose to believe that those incidents happened between episodes as the series went on.
On the other hand, it's nice that Voyager had 'some' episodes on the techy side. I'm enjoying DS9 right now, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth how 80% of the episodes are (thus far) interpersonal based. Rarely thus far does the plot have anything to do with aliens, refits, the unknown. It's very... political and personal.
And Voyager being too action oriented, I'll totally give you that one. The phaser rifles were almost as de facto a part of the uniform as the comm badge. (Whatever happened to "We're on a mission of peace?")
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overseer In reply to DaWooster [2011-12-03 00:46:51 +0000 UTC]
No worries, it's a discussion and not a contest on who pushes reply faster!
You're certainly correct in that we only get to see a certain part of the journey in the actual show, I would have just liked to see more of the struggle and less of the action. I'm sure a whole lot of fans will disagree with me!
It is true that DS9 is more politic (or a lot of), however, given that it's a space port in a political hot zone that is to be expected. It's Star Trek's Babylon 5 so to speak. Again, a little more discovery would have been nice, but it will go much more into action from season 5 onwards. Maybe you will enjoy it more then. Especially the Klingons will become more and more important. Which I actually liked...
As for the action in Voyager. Considering how the Equinox crew handled the Delta quadrant, I guess I can't complain, but Janeway to considerably too trigger happy towards the end. Granted, they didn't always meet the nicest of people, but sometimes I'd have wished for a little less foolhardiness. I guess that is the one downside to the awesome use of CGI. It's far too easy to create action oriented scenes.
Considering I'm working on such a scene myself right now I should shut up, but then if it's over many seasons then it's getting tedious.
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overseer In reply to TreeClimber [2011-08-26 16:56:09 +0000 UTC]
It's a Synthale kind of day?
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TreeClimber In reply to overseer [2011-08-26 16:56:48 +0000 UTC]
SOMETHING to keep my mind occupied XD
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DaWooster In reply to overseer [2011-08-27 02:29:40 +0000 UTC]
You've got good taste. That Double Helix novel was my favorite. Very riveting. Too bad it ended so abruptly. The author could've easily kept going.
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