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Description -.22 caliber

-7.62x36/.220 Russian parent case

-With 55gr bullets: 1,050 m/s (20" bbl); 920 m/s (12" bbl)

-With 62gr bullets: 1000 m/s (20" bbl)

-With 77gr monometal bullets: 870 m/s (20" bbl)

-With 90gr bullets: 820 m/s (20" bbl)

-Fits within micro-length actions and AR-15 magazine wells (2.26" OAL)
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Comments: 13

Skariaxil [2012-10-11 15:52:03 +0000 UTC]

Small caliber high velocity rounds are pretty sexy.
Especially since a BC of 0.5 comes in under 6 grams.

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-11 16:41:45 +0000 UTC]

I got a G7 BC of .285 for a 90gr bullet that could fit in this cartridge, which is roughly equivalent to a G1 BC of .580.

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Skariaxil In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-11 19:32:06 +0000 UTC]

Well, poorly designed it's 0.5 in 6 grams.

The only issue I've found with them (especially when shooting saboted them through a 10mm bore) is that they require a very tight rifling pattern compared to most other loads.

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-11 23:20:45 +0000 UTC]

AFAIK, they need 1-in-6.5"

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Skariaxil In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-12 20:23:08 +0000 UTC]

The British IW or L64/65 had a 1 in 5" rate.
How much of an issue would it be to shoot a bullet that would normally go in a 1 in 8" barrel through a 1 in 5"/6"? I know it wouldn't really work the other way around.

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-12 21:24:01 +0000 UTC]

It would be overspun and at long range the angle of attack of the bullet would not line up with the trajectory, but for emergency use, you wouldn't notice a difference.

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Skariaxil In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-15 14:47:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure whether it's that much of a deal. Under stabilizing is much easier than the other way around, so I suppose you'd be fairly okay.
Nevertheless, I've changed some things to that sets loads do fine with a common twist rate.

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-15 18:01:38 +0000 UTC]

Only at long range would you see any difference.

Also, overspun bullets generally have poorer terminal effectiveness.

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Skariaxil In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-15 18:31:41 +0000 UTC]

Isn't the lack of terminal effectiveness caused by the increased air resistance (and in turn, lower terminal velocity)?

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-15 18:36:10 +0000 UTC]

No. Overstabilized projectiles will yaw later and less often than ones that are stabilized just enough.

There was a marked difference in the terminal effectiveness of the early .222 Remington Special when shot through 1-in-14 twist barrels versus later M193 out of 1-in-12 barrels.

It is also my understanding that the Swedes find their version of SS109 to have better terminal effectiveness through their AK5 rifles than through an M16A2. Why? AK5s have a 1-in-9 twist barrel, whereas M16A2s have 1-in-7 twist barrels.

Certainly, the misalignment of the procession of the bullet will increase drag and thus the projectile will strike at long range with less velocity (but a higher angle of attack, which, paradoxically, probably induces yawing earlier), but the examinations of M193 through 1-in-14 and 1-in-12 barrels was all done at the muzzle, where the mismatched procession would not be evident.

Does that answer your question?

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Skariaxil In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-15 22:30:55 +0000 UTC]

Well, all of it makes sense, its just a matter of which makes slightly more sense.
Sadly, terminal ballistics isn't a subject taught at the HVA. It'd beat the hell out of material & substance sciences.

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Nolo84 In reply to Skariaxil [2012-10-15 23:34:41 +0000 UTC]

It's also possible that the overspun bullet is so stabilized that even though it will hit a target at long range at a high angle of attack, it won't yaw early due to its stability.

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Nolo84 In reply to Nolo84 [2012-10-15 18:37:45 +0000 UTC]

*were all done

lol i can egnlish

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