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Ladies and Gentlemen,I give you Maya! She is a 2 month old Beagle puppy!
My sister bought her this weekend and I had the pleasure of hosting her and tormenting her with my camera for 3 whole days!
This is her best protrait although I think I will submit a few more.
I think it is final: Dogs are my specialty and by far my fav subject!
Enjoy!
Here is Maya again [link]
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thank you
I think all pupies are cute that is why i shoot so many!
I hope you have taken a look at the rest of my pups here
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enjoy!
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Aw!
My heart just pretty mutch melted when i saw this.
I gots me a beagle i miss having her as a pup now a days she dosen't have mutch longer to live.
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she is the best...
I never knew beagles before her... Now I love them...
Get a puppy with yours to have when the old one passes...
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thery pretty great but subborn they kinda just follow their own rules.
i wish i could get another beagle pup, i probabily will when i move out away from the parents.
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and, even spookier, I've got a beagle puppy! well mine is named Muffie.
Dogs really are your specialty Ntora! I could never get a decent shot out of my puppy, she won't sit still for as long as she sees me holding a camera!
How do you get yours to pose with such grace?
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patience and a few tricks i picked up through time...
I love doggies and spend hours shooting or waiting for the right shot.
This one has gone missing a few days now and I am so sad...
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awww,
Don't know what i'd do if i lost mine
wish people were like dogs in some aspects
I hope she's ok and she'll be returned to the people that love her
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Haha they are soo cute! I love your gallery
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asdflkigjaofjlkjadfg. permission to kidnap her?
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she is cute no?
I have tons of doggies in my gallery, I love doggies 
you?
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i'm a vet student, i guess that says it all. i ADORE dogs.
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you are!
I have a degree in Microbiology and I decided to go to Vet school this december.
I have to pass a test but I am optimistic I will do it. What year are you?
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i just finished first year [i'm an undergrad, since i'm studying in the uk]. are you planning to study in the north america?
good luck for the test. i tell you, if you want it bad enough you'll get it. believe me on that.
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I am in Greece. Here is where I will study. Here it is a 5 year study and if i pass the test I will enter in the second year.
I wish I was in the UK or the US. I thing vet studies are much better there... Oh well at least my micro degree was in the US.
So did you pass your first year classes?
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It's five years for me as well, but four more to go since I passed first year well. I have no idea how vet school is in Greece so I can't say much, but to be honest a good vet is about the experience, not just the background. I'm sure yours (the micro degree especially) is already damn solid else you wouldn't be able to get into vet school in the first place.
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I am hoping it will help me with my tests. We actually have to pass the first year in testing so we can be admitted so it is a lot of studying for me now. I think I will make it though just because I want it so much and because I love reading this stuff!
There was only one vet school in greece and a second has started 3-4 years now. So the competition is tough and the school was a monopoly for so long that the standards are not that high. In September I will go see some professors and will have a better picture of what is going on.
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It most definitely should. DO you guys not get direct entry or is it different because you hold a first degree? In any case good luck with it 
You really have to have so much stamina to stick it out because yes, the stuff is absolutely fascinatin but when you get to it there's just so much of it that it can be overwhelming.
I'm sure the introduction of a new school would have reduced the monopoly a little, but I can imagine how exclusive it would still be (it's the same in the UK, except no monopolies because there are seven schools). Let me know how that goes
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Actually in Greece after highschool you have to give National Tests which is competing with all the students for grades and then each school according to how many student positions it has and how many have requested to get in will have a minimum grade you will need to have reached in your National score to get admitted.
As for Degree holders like me, 2% of the student positions (and that is 2 positions for vet school) are available and you have to compete in tests in which you have to pass all 3 subjects and if there are more than 2 then best grades get in. The subjects are the whole first year divided in 3: Biochemistry, Physiology (cardiovascular and digestive) Physiology II (reproductive and endocrinology)
So I need a pass on all 3 and then hope there wont be any more lunatics like me trying to get in.
The tests are in December and I started studying in May.
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Man that sounds complicated...it's similar in universities in Hong Kong [where I'm from] - they make you sit finals and then bell curve everyone and take everyone from a certain percentage up depending on how many people their courses can take. It makes for a lot of testing and far too much waiting.
How difficult do you anticipate the tests to be? I'm sure all the studying will be worth it in the end - you can't go wrong with seven months of it.
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that is what I think too.
I ve been all of it once, taking notes, then over the Biochemistry form a different book and now back to Physiology form the original book. The more I study the more I understand it and although I have a very short memory, studying it over and over ( I will go over it 4 times I estimate) will make it mine.
What classes was your first year?
Were they easy or hard?
What did you find the most difficult?
(if you have a facebook profile add me, I am Ntora Gavriil there)
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Let me tell you physiology can be a real show-stopper. It does get easier the more you study it, so you're pretty on track there.
First year courses are as follows;
Animal Husbandry
No joke. This is tough stuff - all about the dimensions of housing and how to lay concrete for pig houses and how to tie knots for cow-tipping and how to help deliver lambs and all sorts of crazy stuff like that. It seems easy but to be realistic it's a huge volume of stuff to remember.
Physiology
The pain in the backside even though it's so fascinating - the stuff we learn is great but there's just so MUCH of it. Some of the concepts, especially to do with the special senses can be difficult to understand because the mechanisms are honestly quite difficult. This part of the course spans a huge amount of material that we can't see and it involves a hell of a lot of scientific reasoning so you need to be good at that to do well.
Anatomy
A lot of name throwing - especially difficult if your school insists on using latin like mine does. You have to be very good at understanding how structures work in 3D and how everything comes together to work as a beautiful system and you also need a photographic memory because you also learn about stuff on a cellular level in histology...it's a lot of rote learning but the rote must be applied in huge chunks so that you can understand the overall concepts. Not an easy one - I had huge difficulty in the first term with this.
Biomolecular Sciences
What we call the weeder course - anyone who fails gets kicked out because they go over old stuff like Krebs and OxPhos and vitamins and so on, but they go into great depth and it also carries the unfortunate necessity for learning enzyme names and just a whole lot of other stuff that will come into use clinically so we actually do need to know it all. I found this easier than the rest because I've always loved pure biology.
Overall speaking they weren't kidding when they said you hafta want it so bad it's coming out of your eyes - because you can't do it any other way, it's far too hard (if anyone's in it for money they have to be exceptionally greedy to get through it). I won't sugarcoat it or anything because it really is a hell of a lot of work and it only gets worse as the years go by and sometimes it gets tiring because it feels like all you're doing is stuffing books into your brain. I had most difficulty with Physioogy and Anatomy, I think, but to be fair it really depends on the individual because many people found Biomolec far more difficult, and I can't say which you'd find hardest. None of it is easy though, I can tell you that much, and they say first year is the easiest...
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well the fortunate thing about being greek is that all the names in Physiology, Anatomy and Biology as well as a lot of the Chemical names are actually Greek.
Some have been latinized but if you keep in mind that latin came after Greek then you realize that if you know greek you are very lucky!
The fortunate thing about greek language is that it is one of the very few languages that is symantic. That means that every word has a meaning and for example the word thoracic (of the chest) which is greek mean the front guard of the body! you get the picture.
What you call Biomolecular science is the Biochemistry I am studying right now. Most people fail it and have to give the test several times before they pass it so I am relieved that will be out of my way when I get in. It is the same exact book the medical students have to give as well and it is a terrible book. Fortunately I can read the same material from books in english and that is a great shortcut.
What books did you use for Physiology and Anatomy?
Did you do Comparative Anatomy (that is learning the differences between animal species ) or general?
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Oh wow SWEET. It must make it so much easier to remember.
I never knew about symantic languages...they weren't wrong when they said you learn something every day. So there are no redundant words at all?
Have you ever used a book called Instant Notes Biochemistry? It's honestly the best biochem book I've ever seen [and our vet library has hundreds.] You mean, you'll be exempted form the Biochem test or are you fully confident that you'll pass because you've seen it before?
We use Cunningham's Physiology, Sjaastad Sand and Hove, those are the ones I can remember off the top of my haed. We did do Comparative Anatomy, it was incorporated into our syllabus [differentiating between pigs, ruminants, cats, dogs, horses] but the majority of what we learn is about the extremes of dog and horse, and everything else just sort of comes in between - it's a demonstration of evolution in the sliding scale that is the anatomical characteristics of different species.
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I meant I will TAKE the Biochem test. It is one of the three I have to pass to get in but the relief is that if I get in I will have passed it.
I do study Biochem! I went over it once with notes through the original (bad) book and a second time over all the same material through Lehninger's Biochem.
I also found really useful the Basic Concepts of Biochemistry by Gilbert (so that means I am over the basic 3 times! but will go over it again)
It wil really help me if you could tell me the author or publisher of that Instant Notes Biochemistry 
Is that your school's publication or something I could find in Amazon for example?
I have taken Evolutionary Physiology during my first degree but that covered from spiders to sharks. Tough stuff!!
So what subjects do you have for next semester? Are you on a break now? when do you start?
I am sorry I am asking so much but I just want to know as much as I can.
I plan on assisting a friend vet in August in her private practice to get an idea of how it gets.
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You can find it on Amazon.
Same subject next year as this, but I'm willing to bet that the greek system is nothing like ours - even within the UK there is so much variation between schools that you wouldn't even recognise them as being from the same island unless you were told beforehand. So just be prepared that what little I can tell you is no reflection whatsoever of what you'll experience, if you pass your tests.
I start in late Sept, it's currently summer.
Being a VA is invaluable but you would really get so much more out of it after two or three years at vet school because otherwise you really don't fully understand everything that's going on when the vet makes their diagnostic decisions [I know I didn't, and I spent a year shadowing a couple vets.]
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you see right now I do understand a lot because of my degree in Microbiology.
So far the little time I ve spent with vets I could follow and contribute to the whole thing.
When I took my dog to the Vet School clinic for a neuro consult with the professor of Animal Neurology (she is an epileptic and I was thinking of medication back then) I discussed her history and my observations and at the end they were asking me where I knew what to do and what to look for.
Then it hit me how I could recall all i ve ever read or heard about dogs how to asses her recent leg paralysis (check for neuro response, pain response, reflexes etc for example). And I realized that I loved that stuff and that is why I could recall it all and use it and understand it.
Thus my decision to go to Vet school in such late age...
My dog has been through so much... We ve already spent so much time with vets...
At least I could brush up my blood drawing and aseptic technique, right?
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Fair enough - I'm sure having a background really does help (just as I would understand much better now what was going on in the clinic than I would've two years ago as a high school student, when I did my year's worth of experience).
How do you deal with your dog's seizures? You just reminded me that we had to learn the cutaneous innervation supplied by every nerve in Anatomy, and that I'm going to have to commit it all to memory [somebody help me!]
I'm told that vet schools look more for stuff in kennel experience [menial stuff like picking up after the patients and drawing blood and exercising them and clipping fur and so on] until you've completed the clinical part of your course, then they look for clinical experience like blood drawing and so forth. Though I'm sure that clinical experience can't hurt. Perhaps try and get your friend to explain her diagnostic decisions to you, and ask for book recommendations - I used to devour every book they had in the clinic. Tip - beware of the smell when obese dogs are operated on. It can be a shock.
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thank you for the surgical tips!
As for the seizures I decided to follow an old protocol I found online. It was actually and English professor that based his protocol on experiments done on dogs for the application of the Epileptic pacemaker to humans.
What that is is an electrical stimulation device that when triggered can stop the seizure by neutrilizing the electrical/stimulatory potential on the area of the brain that seizures begin.
In dogs unlike humans, epilepsy is localized to an area of the brain.
Anyway the protocol is OC (ocular compressions)during seizure to stimulate the vagus nerve and hopefully relieve the tension buildup at the area where the seizure originates.
It has worked well with my dog. We have stopped seizures within minutes or just relieved the intensity of them. Overall and long term I ve seen a reduction in intensity as well as duration for the seizures.
That along with the fact that seizure progression shows no sign of escalation led us to decide no drug treatment at least for now. I am so happy for that.
Recently she developed hypothyroidism which is probably secondary (since her TSH was extremely low as well) and she started taking T4 showing such great recovery. Practically I can not do much to find the cause of it unfortunately. At least she is ok now, hair will grow back myxoedema will subside and get back to normal. I just hope the new T4 levels will not worsen her seizures (hasn't had one since we started treatment)
Give me your thoughts doc!
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I'm in preclinical 
I'm guessing the localised area for epilepsy is near the optical centre? Otherwise it would make no sense to stimulte the vagus nerve.
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It could be anywhere.. That is why some have great response to the treatment and some not.
We are somewhere in the middle...
I am not sure how that works, I have some unanswered questions myself, but it was a great alternative to lifetime drugs
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Well, I reckon we don't do enough alternative therapies for animals - options are limited compared to human medicine and considering the impact animals have upon humans, they deserve better treatment than what we can give. I'm glad to hear that - rather OC than lifetime drugs any day - do you know of any side effects for meds?
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the epilepsy meds are tough.
You need to bring them to effective plasma levels and that means a lot of blood testing and gradual raising of dosage for some time.
Then you have to keep that under the toxic level with is often very near to the treatment level.
Epilepsy drugs cause liver and kidney failure ultimately and fast if you keep them in too high levels. Also they need to be taken every 8 hours since they are severely metabolized.
Finally three is no guarantee, meaning that there are dogs that do great on treatment and have nearly no seizures while there are others that have no change.
Regarding all of the above we decided to be brave and patient and go with OC and a lot of TLC during krisis
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well, she's doing well now, no?
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yes and it has been 12 days we started the T4 and besides being her old self again (perky and happy and active and cheerful and all) she hasnt had a seizure yet.
Her seizure frequency is so erratic so every long break we get with no episodes we are grateful for!
I have a few pages left on the digestive system and I am done studying all the material for the second time!
I have made study cards for most of it and no I will go into amazon and look for the books you recommended
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sweet!
KEEP HAMMERING AWAY WITH THE WORK, you're doing so well. i tell you, that book is a godsend.
btw, were you talking barbiturate with the epilepsy meds? one of the dogs at the kennel i work for takes that, and it is indeed trickytricky business. no fun.
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there are many anti epileptic drugs, same as humans use but yes all the same trouble in all.
I did not get into any of them.
now we are 15 days on T4 and 25 days seizure free
going strong
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good stuff! 
i think there's plenty of space for increasing the number of alternative therapies available animals because sometimes it works better than traditional approaches with drugs and so forth. your thoughts?
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I am not sure what the vet practice is...
I am sure that when we look into all the trials done on animals that did not have a good outcome when applied to man or were not financially profitable we can find a lot of practices and treatments that could be beneficial.
I have worked for two of the largest pharmaceutical companies and I know all that matters when making a drug is profit. It is not benefit or wellness it is all about money
That will change when the pet market grows enough.
I went to the Athens zoo today. There was a young female tiger and she roared in such way that all around her were upset. I instantly knew that was a mourning roar. It was not acute pain or any other discomfort. It was sadness. I do not know how I know these things but I do with no doubts.
So when we left I made my husband go ask what is wrong with the tiger. She had recently lost her sister and only companion... I cant shake that image, that roar out of my head...
It is hideous to think that we are the only mammals with superior emotions when we have such blunt examples thrown in our faces... Animals are not all instinct!
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To be fair a lot of stuff these days is about money...it's a shame, really, because we forget that other things have much more meaning.
Perhaps we should look into researching alternative therapies - I know that traditional Chinese medicine is being applied on animal patients to a limited degree so there's plenty of potential for the techniques to improve and grow...but I reckon we'll have to wait a while for that.
You're the same way I am with dogs - some instinct makes it clear what they're feeling.
The fact that humans seem to think they're superior to all creation boggles my mind - in truth, the more I learn about animals the more I feel that there is little difference between us when you strip it down to the basics - we feel, we eat, we breathe, we think, we are driven by instinct...it's all the same.
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you are so right...
My little kizi has just had one more surgery... she had to have her one breast removed because she got two lumps in it... none were growing but since the vet in my hometown has an anesthesia machine and I trust her more, I decided she would do it.
it all went great and I got to watch the whole thing! Stitches will come out in 2 days and Kizi seems to be in no pain and had no trouble with recovery. now we just have to hope the biopsy will be clear.
Good news: she has not had any seizures since she started the T4! I am starting to look into the rare occation where hypothyroidism is a cause for epipletic seizures (very rare)
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Just a breast? Over here we usually do mammary line removal, to curb metastasis. Either way, the faster it gets taken out the better - I'm so glad to hear she's not in much pain. How long till the biop result comes back?
Rare doesn't mean impossible
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Oh it would be a great help for me if you did ask them about our case!
I am confused and epilepsy is something that experience still teaches.
I will have to biopsy around the 20th (there is only one lab in the country)
but I am confident it would be ok. We kept the rest cause I want to breed her one more time remember?
when does your school start?
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I start school on the 22nd, but I don't know when we'll be doing endocrinology [if we're doing it again, that is] but if I can get my hands on the professor I'll remember to ask. If you could give me a list of two or three things, I'd be happy to try
There's still so much in the medical lexicon that we don't understand, so I'm not surprised that we're still learning new things about epilepsy - just that it makes it that bit more difficult to treat.
Just one thing...epilepsy isn't hereditary, right? (I sure hope not!) Because the puppies might be a lot more work if it is.
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They say it might be hereditary but Kizi's puppy has not shown any problems yet.
They say it might be injury related too
Now I am confident that the hypothyroidism might have caused it
Still going strong without a seizure for nearly 2 months! with no ther treatment
I need you to ask if anyone knows of a correlation between epilepsy and secondayr hypothyroidism or how low T4 can cause epilepic seizures...
[secondary cause she s got low TSH as well indicating it is a deficiency from the pituitary and not thyroid glad itself]
thank you so much, it would be great to get some info!
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I'm glad to hear that. It wouldn't be much fun if Kizi's puppy had it too.
If I'm taking endocrinology again this year, I'll definitely keep an eye out for the professor. Note me the details - that way I have a record of it.
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her tests were
TSH=0,05 micro IU/ml with 0,3-5 normal
T3 total = 0,45ng/dl
T4 total = 0,6mg/dl
all way low.
I shall have the 2 month follow up soon
thank you (sorry it took me too long but I ve been really busy!)
Back to school?
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i asked my professor and he said it's possible that the epilepsy is secondary to the hypothyroidism, but he couldn't be sure because he'd have to examine kizi himself to be able to give you a concrete answer.
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