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Belarus is holding her old flag,I don't know what moved me to draw this, but I just hope people enjoy it.
So, yeah, it's hetalia's Belarus. I don't know what else to say :I
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Thank you! It makes me very happy that people seem to like this, and like the fact that I used the other flag 
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Yeah, I like it very much
You're very welcome
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Aww, this is great! 8D I didn't know about the flag thing myself, that's really interesting!! D8 Anyways, your style and colouring are lovely, as well as your portrayal of Belarus. 8D Great work. <3 (Have some Denmark because I love your icon too. )
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Ooo you're the girl who did that awesome meme thing, wow you like this, thank you so much ldfmlksmdf <3
Woah, thanks again, the flag is illegal in Belarus, and several people have been arrested for showing it. Again, thanks for all the compliments.
(Thank you so much, Denny's my favourite character <3)
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Haha, yes, I was indeed responsible for that particular nordic meme fill. (I regret none of it. <3) XDDD Anyways, you're very welcome, I meant it all! I was talking to and she pointed me in your direction, and this piece really stuck out because of the colouring in particular. That's one area I have more than a little trouble with, so consider me jealous. XD
Oh who doesn't love a bit of Den?
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Oh wow, that's cool how she told you about me~ Your meme was cool, she had sent it to me so that's how I know of it XD.
I seriously thought the colouring on this was kind of..meh, so wow xD thanks so much for the compliment! (no need to be jealous of me~)
I have no idea, do people that stupid exist? Everyone has to love Denmark!
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Haha, I see! Bless her, I think I owe her for the advertisement she does showing my stuff to people like that... 8D;
Well, I personally still love the colouring, so be proud of it and keep going! 8D
D8 I agree, everyone -should- love Denmark! Anyone who doesn't, well... ¬¬
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Hehe, it was adorable though~
Thank you very much! ;u; Your words mean a lot *hugs*
Anyone who doesn't love Denmark can just...go away somewhere 
Oh and sorry for like, taking so long to reply to this. There is really no excuse for taking almost 2 months, I really need to be less lazy and get on dA more often, sorry about that.
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Daaaaw you are quite alright, people have lives! I am very pleased to see you replied anyway! 8D *hugs*
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Excellent work- she looks quite somber. I love that you used their real flag, here.
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Oh wow, thank you for such the nice comment! I had a friend of mine who roleplays Belarus tell me about the flag, and I wanted to use that outfit with that flag. Thanks for the comment again, I'm happy you liked it! I hope using the flag was a good thing, since I also got some kind of weird reactions... thanks again though!
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You're welcome. It's a great picture
When Belorussians protested against the rigged 2010 elections, they waved this flag. Their "president" changed the flag back to the Soviet one when he took power in 1995.
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Thank you so much <3
Ahh, yeah, I heard about that. My friend called it Belarus's real flag, so I thought I would draw her with it, the other flag is Lukashenko's :/
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Right. Belarus had the white-red-white flag during 1991-1995. I think that people protested when Lukashenko ordered it changed back.
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As they should do! I can't believe he gets away with the stuff he does, I hate that. And the fact that people get put in prison for flying it is just horrific. I think she would much prefer that flag over the red white and green one that Lukashenko chose.
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Definitely. Lukashenko's actions are enough to land his ass in prison, but the ICC and UN don't even blink. Same with the EU (even though Belarus isn't a member).
It just isolates the country further by brushing it off and not paying any attention to injustice committed (same with Ukraine). They also withdrew all of its ambassadors from the country in 2011.
After the 2010 protests/raids, the EU put a travel ban on Lukshenko and his ilk from entering any EU countries. How is a lousy travel sanction going to help anything?
The Russian government threw some money at Lukashenko's administration in the guise of a financial stimulus (since Belarus' economy is pretty much on life support now). Still, they want Lukashenko because he's pro-Kremlin. And Russia has several problems with authoritarianism on it's own.
I've said a lot more about this, here (with a dozen+ articles): [link]
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I know this is old, but why did you delete them?
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Because I wanted to.
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He really should've been sanctioned by now.
It seems terrible what is happening, and I'll definitely read a bunch of those articles on it, so I can get a better understanding. Thanks for the link! (and I seem to see quite a bit of fanart making male Belarus the white-red-white flag one, and the female one Lukashenko's Belarus).
I wish hetalia Belarus was made differently, actually.
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Sorry for my late reply
Forget about sanctions, Lukashenko needs to be thrown in prison!
And you're welcome with the link.
Yeah, I've seen that, too- Belarus & her male counterpart with the different flags.
I understand what you mean about how Hetalia's Belarus is portrayed too.
The first time we see her in the anime & manga, she's holding a knife to Latvia's back (poor guy). That's a pretty crappy establishing character moment...
And lots of fans love to portray her as a female Norman Bates knife-nut, and whatever. Like she's this sociopathic femme fatale who was born to kill or some BS.
I don't want to get into details, but I guess you've seen some bad ones.
I would have pictured Belarus as a quiet, serious person who doesn't draw attention to herself a lot. Belarus itself is barely mentioned in European and world news.
I can see her as an awkward, lonely type who wants to fit in and have a better life, but something holds her back, kind of like Ukraine.
I don't get the "she wants to marry Russia" thing, either. Aren't most Belorussians frustrated that their government is way too close with Russia's?
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I'm sorry about my late reply as well ;u;
He does! I keep telling my dad about some of the things that have happened and he asks why he gets away with it, I tell him that something needs to be done with Lukashenko and obviously Belarus needs help with the problem...
I think either Belarus, male or female, can represent the real Belarus with the old flag. I know a Belarus RPer who does her like that, and she's fantastic, completely different from canon, so much better.
Ugh, yeah? I don't remember much of her in canon as I mostly see her in fanarts or reading the RPs my friend does; but I think fans need to realise that Himaruya isn't perfect. Overall I think the hetalia characters are fantastic, and most of them are canonly superb, the artwork is definitely amazing.
But there are some faults in some characters that I wish people saw. It's not just Belarus canonly has faults, Finland is a good example (especially in the anime).
Yeah, I've read fics or seen pictures or RPers completely murdering the poor girl's personality. The original comics overall are great, the anime picks on certain details (E.g Belarus liking knives, Finland liking Christmas, England being slightly tsundere) and magnifies them. This makes the anime horribly inaccurate. And most fans go by the anime and the fans magnify that, and that's how the personalities get out of control...
I can see her like that too, she wants to just stay around her country mostly but I think she'd get on with others fine. She wouldn't be Russia obsessed, and if anything she'd be trying to get away from him.
I really like that about the awkward lonely type and wanting to fit it, I think that that suits her really well. I wish more fans moved more away from canon. The point about writing/drawing/RPing a character is making them your own, Himaruya said that he doesn't mind as long as nobody earns money from it.
I think the whole "marry me brother" thing is because of Lukashenko. As far as I know I think that most of them want to be away from Russia, but Lukashenko is the one who wants her to marry Russia. That's why I think it would be more accurate to have Belarus complain that her boss wants her to marry Russia, as opposed to her wanting to marry him herself.
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I know this is old, but may I ask who this RPer is?
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Thatβs OK, I reply to messages late, too
He does! I keep telling my dad about some of the things that have happened and he asks why he gets away with it, I tell him that something needs to be done with Lukashenko and obviously Belarus needs help with the problem...
I donβt understand why Lukashenko hasnβt been kicked out of office, yet either. But I could ponder the same question about Assad and Putin. I guess the EU doesnβt want to bother with them because Belarus isnβt a member, and the ICC & UN are useless so thereβs no chance of them actingβ¦ I mean, Belarus probably has the worst situation in Europe right now.
I think either Belarus, male or female, can represent the real Belarus with the old flag. I know a Belarus RPer who does her like that, and she's fantastic, completely different from canon, so much better.
Oh, thatβs cool. Iβve never RPβd online (aside from computer games), but itβs good to know someone takes time to research
Ugh, yeah? I don't remember much of her in canon as I mostly see her in fanarts or reading the RPs my friend does; but I think fans need to realise that Himaruya isn't perfect. Overall I think the hetalia characters are fantastic, and most of them are canonly superb, the artwork is definitely amazing.
Definitely. Himaruya isnβt perfect like the rest of us, but first and foremost, Hetalia is his series.
But there are some faults in some characters that I wish people saw. It's not just Belarus canonly has faults, Finland is a good example (especially in the anime). Yeah, I've read fics or seen pictures or RPers completely murdering the poor girl's personality. The original comics overall are great, the anime picks on certain details (E.g Belarus liking knives, Finland liking Christmas, England being slightly tsundere) and magnifies them. This makes the anime horribly inaccurate. And most fans go by the anime and the fans magnify that, and that's how the personalities get out of control...
I definitely see what you mean about the characterβs faults/traits. Russia gets a lot of that, too. So much, in fact, that Himaruya is trying to tone him down into an awkward, well-meaning guy. Do the crazy fans (*cough* douchebags) listen? Nope: [link]
I can see her like that too, she wants to just stay around her country mostly but I think she'd get on with others fine. She wouldn't be Russia obsessed, and if anything she'd be trying to get away from him.
I really like that about the awkward lonely type and wanting to fit it, I think that that suits her really well. I wish more fans moved more away from canon. The point about writing/drawing/RPing a character is making them your own, Himaruya said that he doesn't mind as long as nobody earns money from it.
That would be a great portrayal for Belarusβ character. Still, about writing/drawing/RPing someone elseβs character can be either good or awful. Wait, that would be hypocritical of me, because Iβve written a lot of fanfiction in my time. Still, I try to keep the characters βin characterβ like canonβ¦
I think the whole "marry me brother" thing is because of Lukashenko. As far as I know I think that most of them want to be away from Russia, but Lukashenko is the one who wants her to marry Russia. That's why I think it would be more accurate to have Belarus complain that her boss wants her to marry Russia, as opposed to her wanting to marry him herself.
Absolutely. Lukashenko is an autocrat when it comes to treating his countrymen, but heβs like Russiaβs puppet. As a result, many Belorussians hate that. They want their own country, and they want to keep their language and culture.
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And again, I took forever >A<
Yeah, it definitely sounds bad... It doesn't even sound like it would take a lot to fix it. Get rid of Lukashenko, the UN has the power to do that, they just won't, then after that Belarus could get themselves back on track.
Yeah, this RPer really researches a lot, I just don't RP as a character that can have much interaction with Belarus unfortunately >.>
Overall the characters are amazing, but I don't think it's a bad thing for the fans to change them a bit, as long as it's for the better. Everyone has their own stamp on portraying something, but they should at least respect how Himaruya has probably researched loads.
Russia does? I never really read much Russia stuff, but yeah, I'd imagine people treat him like a maniac. It's good that Himaruya is trying to tone him down, if he felt that his initial portrayal of Russia wasn't accurate. Those journal entries were good... luckily I don't see too much bad Russia stuff because in general I don't see much about Russia.
I do think people should try and stick with canon, I do when I RP and write, but fans take canon as meaning "magnify ALL the traits" and therefore magnify Belarus's brother thing and knife thing, and they think making her a maniac or someone with real issues is canon, which it isn't. People should portray her as a tonned down canon.
If they want to keep their own country, then surely the hetalia character should want that. Unfortunately they're losing those things, I just wish some people actually researched about Lukashenko before reading/writing about Belarus,you don't need to know loads, just enough to know that Belarus's boss is crazy about Russia, not her >.<
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It doesn't even sound like it would take a lot to fix it. Get rid of Lukashenko, the UN has the power to do that, they just won't, then after that Belarus could get themselves back on track.
Perhaps it won't take much. I wish that was true. It's atrocious that Belarus isn't even cared about- how we see it, anyway. It's like the guy in the corner no one wants to talk to...
Russia does? I never really read much Russia stuff, but yeah, I'd imagine people treat him like a maniac. It's good that Himaruya is trying to tone him down, if he felt that his initial portrayal of Russia wasn't accurate. Those journal entries were good... luckily I don't see too much bad Russia stuff because in general I don't see much about Russia.
Yeah, I'm glad Himaruya's turned him down, too. I haven't seen people act so weird about a character since L and Mello from Death Note.
I do think people should try and stick with canon, I do when I RP and write, but fans take canon as meaning "magnify ALL the traits" and therefore magnify Belarus's brother thing and knife thing, and they think making her a maniac or someone with real issues is canon, which it isn't. People should portray her as a tonned down canon.
Yeah, the "magnify ALL the traits" thing is called exaggeration or Flanderization [link] It's pretty annoying.
If they want to keep their own country, then surely the hetalia character should want that. Unfortunately they're losing those things, I just wish some people actually researched about Lukashenko before reading/writing about Belarus,you don't need to know loads, just enough to know that Belarus's boss is crazy about Russia, not her.
I know, it's sad. As for some Hetalia fans and the general public, I wish they were a little more respectful.
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It's like, we only care about the countries not in Europe, maybe they're more dangerous to us or something?
I haven't seen people in the death note fandom much, but I'd imagine they ruin the characters since it's a popular anime and manga, just like hetalia. I don't pay too much attention to hetalia comics, but I don't think I remember too much crazy Russia stuff anyway.
Ah, it is annoying >.<. The anime for hetalia exaggerates the comics, and then the fans exaggerate from the anime, therefore leaving an extremely inaccurate character.
Some people get offended by hetalia, and I wish fans realised that...you can't go showing it off or making a rude character out of a country because it can and will offend them. Some people get offended anyway, and some fans don't realise this and still go on shoving hetalia in their face. Our fandom gets a lot of hate, but I think if you cut through the weeaboos and annoying people you eventually get a really nice fandom.
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I don't understand it either. I wish some fans were more respectful of the characters and series/work they claim to like. Man, I can't emphasize that enough.
I know some people hate Hetalia because they think its disrespectful to countries and history, but there are a lot of politically incorrect shows out there: The Simpsons, South Park, American Dad, Family Guy, etc. & they don't mention that. Not that those shows are bad- I love watching them; they're funny.
But I think Hetalia is in a boat all its own somehow... And yeah, I can't stand all of the crazy, ignorant, sadistic, perverted, and just plain rude people in this fandom. I think you're right that we would have a nice fandom with such people. I wish that was so, too.
Back to Belarus itself, I saw this awful stamp: [link] Then again, this is the same punk who made this: [link] I wish ignorance wasn't so common...
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Neither can I, although I will say some people get offended far too easily, e.g people getting offended by using stereotypes like making England have bad teeth or something. I find stereotypes fun...
I love all those shows as well (Well, out of those South Park is the only one I majorly watch,the others I sometimes see but like them). As I said, some people get offended far too easily, or they use that as an excuse because they just don't like hetalia in general and they'll do anything to try and pick holes in it.
Every fandom has those types of people, homestuck, hetalia and Harry Potter are probably more famous for it. Luckily I never have to experience talking to them much, or if I do I ignore them and they leave me alone. People like to focus on the bad things, which is why the good hetalia fans don't get noticed.
They must be doing that just to try and annoy people, they can't honestly think that way can they?! Their arguments seem stupid.
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I agree whole-heartedly. There are crazy people in every fandom- sad truth. I can't stand it when people try to shit-pick everything, either. In Hetalia's case, it's just a comedy.
And I'm afraid the guy I mentioned is serious. It's kind of sad, really.
I never read Homestuck, but I'm glad that I never dealt with the crazies in the Harry Potter fandom. "My Immortal" was bad enough (although I'm cautiously optimistic that it was a troll fic 
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People should relax, hetalia doesn't mean any harm...just enjoy it and shut up, or leave xD.
Homestuck's pretty stupid,I tried reading it and it was so..pointless. I've seen Harry Potter fans yell at each other and non-Harry Potter fans (they seem to act as if Harry Potter is the best thing in the universe).
Haha, I actually read My Immortal (I have no idea why), but my version had like...commentary but the commentary was as bad as the fic XD
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Eh, I could care less about Homestuck. And it's a shame about Harry Potter fans fighting amongst themselves and non-fans. It's supposed to be a wonderful series with a great message.
And the dramatic reading I showed you should be considered a cure for acute depression
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It really is, either you like Harry Potter or you don't, as long as you liking or disliking it doesn't hurt anyone, it shouldn't be a problem.
Hahahaha! Good point.
And omg I'm so sorry I took so long to reply I really feel bad now I just like barely came on dA and stuff.
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I like this flag more it's a true symbol of Belarus and not like the other one.
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Thank you for telling me that. By what I'm told my an amazing Belarus RPer it seems that this flag is more truly hers than the other. But I don't know too much on the issue with her flag. Thanks for the comment!
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Haha, do you like it?
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Yeeeessssss, finally some fanart with Bela and her old flag.
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I looked around and I didn't see any others of it, I'm glad you seem to like it x3. I wasn't sure on what grounds the flag had with people, but I'm pretty sure I used it in an okay context. Anyway, thank you for the comment!
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Nowadays the flag is used as a symbol of the revolution (against the dictatorship), so it's not as well known as the "regular" flag.
It could be used to show how Belarus is a fairly conflicted nation/character in general ^^
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It's to be against Lukashenko, right? I'd imagine her to be against him, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to use it. aLSo, it was their flag prior to whenever he changed it (was it 1991? I forgot) so yeah. I'm still not 100% sure why I used it.
I like the idea of her being conflicted, as opposed to "crazy" like so many fans see her. There's more to her character than that.
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Yeah, I'd imagine her to be somewhat rebellious against her boss....but that wouldn't explain the whole marriage issue with Russia since that's what Lukashenko.
Haha, yes, especially the fans that only think of her as a knife nut. I really wish Hima would go more into her character....
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I agree, it seems like her boss is the one who wants to marry Russia, not her. That's one thing that I dislike about her character, since it does seem like she's more a victim as opposed to being obsessed with her brother.
Yeah, I wish that too. I like the idea of her knowing that Ivan's scared of her and taking it to her advantage to purposely try and freak him out, I'd also like her to do that to other people. Pretend to be a nut so they are scared of her.
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At least in Hetalia, it always seems as if the nations reflect on their respective governments, so I think Belarus may not agree with her boss but acts so anyways.
That's something I haven't thought of before XD
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Mmm, yeah, I understand that. And because of that she's be quite conflicted then, I'm assuming as you said before.
Oh? I'm sorry if it was quite a random thing to say xD. I just like the idea of that happening.
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Ahh, good. And thank you for such a nice comment again!
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I remember that old flag! my grandpa had an old european map in the toilette, and I saw the flags there too and she had that one there xD
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