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PinkJenkin [2017-03-29 15:14:34 +0000 UTC]
"whether they're hardline libertarian of one sort or another, anti-democracy ex-libertarians, paleoconservatives, pick up artists/MRAs, tankie, Various flavros of green/red/black/iron "pill" types, deep green, neofascist, peak oil believers, neonazi, anti-civilization, monarchist or other fringe thing"
Thank God. No Trots.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to PinkJenkin [2017-03-29 16:03:56 +0000 UTC]
"Other fringe thing" so there are trotskyites.
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AbleArcher1928 [2016-12-11 21:44:53 +0000 UTC]
Who won the election in TTL 2016 for this TL and the John Kerry TL?
By the way, did you see my responses to the "Recent Annexation of Mexico" and "Collection of POD..." TLs?
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OttoVonSuds In reply to AbleArcher1928 [2016-12-11 22:08:09 +0000 UTC]
That's a good question there! The normal, non-surprise ending is Joe Biden, mentioned in-text as the frontrunner for dems, or if political party fatigue hits some relatively conservative rep. The shocker answer would be Trump, for many of the same reasons as OTL if the crises implied to be building up in TTL hit between 2014-now. Obama got reelected in Kerryworld's 2016.
Check your feedback section to see if I do replies from here on out but yes. I'm going to hide comments asking if I've seen replies. Nothing against you, but that's just a personal pet peeve.
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AbleArcher1928 [2016-10-28 01:18:38 +0000 UTC]
In your opinion, do you suppose the modern OTL DLC Dems with cease being the equivalent of "Me Too" Republicans from the 1940s - 1960s now that the merchantilist right (it's not just the Donald) and statist/redistributionist left are more visible?
By the way, have you seen my previous comment here as well as the main comments section and some individual scenario comment sections?
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OttoVonSuds In reply to AbleArcher1928 [2016-10-28 18:46:51 +0000 UTC]
If the OTL gop psot-1992 are anything to go by the OTL DLC dems will try their neocon schtick for several election cycles.
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AbleArcher1928 [2016-10-13 01:09:36 +0000 UTC]
What does Michael Moore do in this TL without the War on Terror or an economic meltdown to create fresh documentary ideas? Perhaps he makes a documentary on Iraq/Korea 2.0.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to AbleArcher1928 [2016-10-28 18:47:17 +0000 UTC]
Possibly helps kickstart left-populism with more anti-trade docs.
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AbleArcher1928 [2016-09-08 20:47:44 +0000 UTC]
Does the Nader movement still exist?
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OttoVonSuds In reply to AbleArcher1928 [2016-09-10 01:29:27 +0000 UTC]
yes, its stronger than OTL without the whole 2000 betrayal issue
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Slaytaninc [2014-08-05 00:57:48 +0000 UTC]
This is old, and I mean in style.
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TwisterAce [2014-08-03 23:25:25 +0000 UTC]
This is some pretty interesting stuff. Quite different from what I expected an "Al Gore wins in 2000" ATL to be.
How was 9/11 butterflied out of this timeline?
Also what did Gore do regarding climate change/global warming?
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OttoVonSuds In reply to TwisterAce [2014-08-04 00:49:30 +0000 UTC]
1) 9/11 happening was imo very contingent. It wouldn't have been hard for it to have been stopped or the hijackers somehow botching it.
2) Alot of hot air but no progress in addressing our climate and energy predicaments.
I am curious though, what there you expecting from a Gore in 2000 ATL?
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TwisterAce In reply to OttoVonSuds [2014-08-04 01:36:41 +0000 UTC]
I was expecting a less... militaristic foreign policy from a Gore presidency. Maybe some limited interventions like when Clinton sent troops to Bosnia and ordered missile strikes against Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan. Not full-scale wars in Iraq and North Korea (and Iran, under Gore's successor). Then again, maybe I shouldn't be surprised since the hawkish Joe Lieberman became Vice President in this timeline. Aside from that, I was also expecting a little more action regarding the environment (at least compared to OTL's Bush administration).
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mdc01957 [2014-08-03 10:59:42 +0000 UTC]
So essentially, Al Gore's America is the opposite of his professed views?
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OttoVonSuds In reply to mdc01957 [2014-08-03 16:12:38 +0000 UTC]
Having to work with a mostly consie congress, plus having no real views besides public posturing will do that.
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mdc01957 In reply to OttoVonSuds [2014-08-03 16:39:51 +0000 UTC]
Ironically, that seems to make Bush the better alternative.
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Slaytaninc In reply to mdc01957 [2014-08-05 00:58:50 +0000 UTC]
Compared to what really happened, this is paradise.
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OttoVonSuds In reply to mdc01957 [2014-08-03 16:44:28 +0000 UTC]
Yep. He and Gore weren't different in practice with the only thing Bush didn't have is Gore's ability to get away with all sorts of stuff without media criticism due to partisan affiliation.
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