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Published: 2016-11-30 21:02:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 2159; Favourites: 32; Downloads: 3
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Bad things don't happen because of politicians and corporations. They happen because the complacent masses allow it and participate within it, as per their blind obedience to authority. Nothing Hitler did was moral, but it was all legal. He changed the laws to make it legal.I didn't make this graphic, but it is a fair use image, so I'm sharing it.
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ok i agree that Nazis and communist are guilty of that.
US police? with some exception, not to much sense the end of enforcing Jim-crow laws and junk.yes react when the exception happens. but the exseption is not the norm.
the 4th photo is about the pipeline thing? i legal agreement between the tribal-elders or whatever that owned the land, have a problem? take it up with the land-owners, then consider the gov.
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Make your job your hobby. That way you never work a day in your life.
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And, risk taking the joy out of your hobby? Meh. Jobs tend to have a way of ruining a good thing.
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It was even in a beer commercial.
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Well... Would you give up your job, your source of income, that thing you need to support yourself and your family, just to virtue signal that you're a good guy "on the right side of history"?
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Nope. You keep your job and do the right thing within your job instead of the wrong thing. Imagine what would happen for example, if all the police said to their bosses "no, we aren't going to do these immortal things, instead -- we are going to go by due process of law like things are supposed to be" ... what could their bosses do if their own enforcers said "no, we're going to serve and protect, instead of enforcing policy of tyranny"?
"I was just following orders" didn't go well at Nerumberg and should not go well ever at any point. I'm not saying "quit your job" I am saying, don't use your job as an excuse to be a tyrant. Keep your job, but actually do it the right way. Maybe I'm asking too much. You seem to think I'm asking too much. But even if it is still too much, I'm not asking it. I'm demanding it. Regardless of how futile or not my demand may or may not be.
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Agreed enough. I just want people to remember there's another side to these arguments, and everyone does things they're not proud of because they put their families first.
No, I don't think all the officers there are in that situation, but for the few that are it's something I like to remember. It's why I hold their bosses in higher contempt than the officers.
But hey, no need to worry anymore, the army said no!
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Hmmm, now we have 'degrees' of contempt? They are all worthy of the same contempt if you asked me.
Are you not the master of your own ship?
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Now if only the cops would say no as well.
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One that is lost on most people as of yet, despite history.
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The images used captures the issue pointedly.
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Every commander is responsible for the actions of his troops
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I am responsible for my own actions.
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The primary meaning of my statement was that it's the commander's job to guide his troops to do the right thing. If they screw up, it's just as much the commander's fault as it is theirs... likewise obeying an order that you know is wrong is just as much your fault as it is the commander's for ordering it, but sometimes the troops feel like they have no choice... sometimes.
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I hear what you're saying. Ultimately, it always does come down to choice.
For example, a person can choose whether or not to put themselves into a situation where they allow someone else to have 'authority' over them.
Personally, I would avoid all hierarchical command structures. Then, it is no longer a matter of 'obeying' and 'disobeying'. It's about avoiding that scenario altogether.
I would look for situations where I can work equally and co-operatively with others.
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mhmm
Of course those who disobey immoral orders and live are often called heroes, so that's a thing lol
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Haha for sure.
I just find the idea of putting myself in a position where I'd have to disobey immoral orders because I, normally, obey orders... rather distasteful. To be subservient doesn't sit well with me.
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Well most of the context of these things is talking about soldiers, who are trained and disciplined to obey without question. A concept that makes good weapons... for whichever moral alignment chooses to wield them.
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'Just doing my job' to justify horrific acts against other people. It's an oldie but a goodie.
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I'm sure the Germans said this when anyone criticized the Gestapo
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Yes, identical situation of course. Are we really so much older to see something so clearly?
The younger folks seem to need to hear this. Our lifespans are far too short. It's no wonder we've been so easily hoodwinked.
We can't stop speaking.
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One thing I've learned is that the only thing age provides, is practice doing whatever it is we practice doing.
People who practice dumbassery, become really good at it with age.
Where as there are also very smart, wise, awake and aware people who are young.
So sadly, stupidity is not age prejudice. Life would be easier if it was.
But, it is not.
It is a disease that infects all age groups, all genders, all ethnicity and makes its way through the gene pool like an ISIS terrorist makes his way through a herd of goats.
By herd I mean herium. However that is spelled.
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Okay, point well taken. Yes, it's not a blanket thing that all younger folks haven't a clue what's going on and all older folks are well-meaning and 'get the picture'.
I meant that in my experience, the younger folks, generally, haven't had as much time to... assimilate all the information/lessons (the internet is helping to accelerate this thank goodness -- still, a person needs to WANT to learn and it helps to have a natural propensity to question everything). A few pop out here and there for sure that are 'on the ball', but it's not as common as the older ones. In the forums, for example, most of the 'heavy hitters' are middle-aged and seniors. Those are the ones who seem to have their life experiences to back them up... and having had some time to really sink their teeth into the material...
And, my gosh I've met some horrid older folks... can't seem to communicate with them at all... they're so hard-headed (although, I imagine they think the same of me). And, some of them are just nasty.
Point of interest: I often get mistaken for a 'younger' person, at first, (on the internet) because of my... demeanour (and interests etc etc...) I've found it allows me to bridge the gap between generations much easier.
Amusingly, sometimes the older folks look down on me based on first appearances (assume I'm an 'uninformed/inexperienced younger person').
It's so fun to play with them, catch them off guard.
For the 'crime' of saying what I think (and demanding transparency and freedom of speech), I've been accused of being a troll many times (working for government, CIA, you name it), mentally unstable, and a rebel without a cause... imagine that! 
Of course, it could simply be a matter of 'as above so below' (sheep pretending to be the wolves tending the sheep).
And, then some people are just really, really paranoid (and... unstable).
HAHAHA... your 'ISIS terrorist' analogy is darkly hilarious and absolutely accurate IMHO!
Btw, I liked this image/message (Just Doing Their Jobs) you found so much, I turned it into a thread in my forum to further drive the point home in my own way... So, thanks for the inspiration, Dave!
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As far as I've seen here in the Philippines, whether it's rioters or riot control. All it takes is for one idiot to suddenly increase the amount of bloodlust and people randomly smashing things to cause everything to come crashing down
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We live in a system that lets people get away with this, because the masses support that system. If we didn't support it, then people on both sides who act wrongly would be prosecuted. But instead, law enforcement is encouraged to act without conscience, which then justified it's victims to equally act without conscience. Its like a snake eating its own tail. A perpetuated meme.
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And hypocrisy. I remember watching some movie based around real-life events where these germans were protesting against the government and complaining about capitalism and Vietnam.
They all ended up killing lots of civilians and government workers who weren't doing anything violent while making news articles repeatedly talking about freedom and oppression(they were even given a LOT of privileges while in prison and still writing the stuff that riled up so many "freedom fighters" coming up with conspiracies and martyrs)
It was like Anarchists vs Fascists and in the end the Anarchists were becoming worse than who they were fighting
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Because crowd control equals genocide. Way to trivialize genocice!
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Exactly. I do it for clickbait to increase my views. I am also a member of the Illuminati and was born on Uranus.
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"...and was born on Uranus."
That explains why is always so butthurt...
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That is his right to be racist against Uranialites if he wishes to be.
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*spit* *dang!* Damn right it is! Damn Uranians takin' er jaz.
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Klatoo Veritas Nikto.
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