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Published: 2015-02-28 22:51:27 +0000 UTC; Views: 1404; Favourites: 31; Downloads: 1
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Description I wanted to make some more Balto fanart, and I figured I might try a piece with Niju. Not one of my favorite characters in the franchise (and I still don't get the rationale of pairing him with Aleu), but he served as a decent practice. Ah, I may reattempt him in the future.

Thought the rain might add atmosphere, or something.

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zielinskijoseph [2021-08-28 23:46:00 +0000 UTC]

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MDTartist83 [2015-06-13 19:15:46 +0000 UTC]

This guy and Steele should meet. Just saying.

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saffronpanther In reply to MDTartist83 [2015-06-13 19:19:53 +0000 UTC]

I imagine it would not end well.

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MDTartist83 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-06-13 19:24:31 +0000 UTC]

You're probably right. One thing they have in common is they're both assholes. But who would win? Steele or Niju?

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saffronpanther In reply to MDTartist83 [2015-06-13 19:32:08 +0000 UTC]

Depends. Niju has the body advantage, but Steele is not a pushover. Although, between the two, I'd side with Niju solely on the principle that, while he is an asshole, he was at least something of an anti-villain (given that his villainy was prompted by a fear of change and that he wanted his pack to survive). And the whole "Niju didn't almost condemn a bunch of children to die because his ego was bruised" thing.

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MDTartist83 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-06-13 19:38:17 +0000 UTC]

Well said.

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saffronpanther In reply to MDTartist83 [2015-06-13 19:43:44 +0000 UTC]

Still, that'd be an interesting confrontation. Especially since, if the cards were played right, it'd be Jim "Dr. Robotnik" Cummings vs. Mark "The Joker" Hamill.

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MDTartist83 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-06-13 19:44:16 +0000 UTC]

I agree. Well said. It would be interesting to see.

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LionheartArtz [2015-05-06 00:02:26 +0000 UTC]

I always thought Niju looked more like a wildcat than a wolf. Great job, you really capture his likeness

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saffronpanther In reply to LionheartArtz [2015-05-06 00:24:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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LionheartArtz In reply to saffronpanther [2015-05-06 00:27:09 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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Kodimarto [2015-03-01 12:06:59 +0000 UTC]

He looks awesome!!! One of my fave villains besides, Badrang the Tyrant, Scar, Mane-iac, Sombra and Discord too!!!

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MDTartist83 [2015-02-28 23:29:09 +0000 UTC]

I remember this guy. He was not quite as memorable as Steel. But he was an interesting character nevertheless.

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saffronpanther In reply to MDTartist83 [2015-02-28 23:31:03 +0000 UTC]

Interesting in concept, at least. And voiced by Mark Hamill, using a voice not far from his Joker one.

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MDTartist83 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-02-28 23:46:18 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes. Mark Hamill, who is also famous for his role as Luke Skywalker as well as the Joker.

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saffronpanther In reply to MDTartist83 [2015-02-28 23:47:44 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. So I was admittedly kinda amused at first that the wolf here started sounding like the Joker.

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MDTartist83 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:04:13 +0000 UTC]

Yes. Indeed. That was quite interesting.

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LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:05:06 +0000 UTC]

I like to pair him with Aleu mainly because it can give both of them character development. However, I don't blame you or anyone else for not likely that pairing.

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:15:51 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, it's not so much that I don't like it, as it is that it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Admittedly, a lot of that comes from how they barely interacted (due to the film failing to incorporate Nava, Niju, and their pack a lot earlier to where it'd benefit the plot), as well as Niju's...well, rather temperamental demeanor. (Not to mention the...err, infamous screenshot.)

But I can see that rationale. Of course, it seems a lot of people either go for a route where one is rendered out of character, or they...ugh...again, because of that damn screenshot.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-02-28 23:21:51 +0000 UTC]

Actually there's this one fanfic called the Soul's Trail that does a good job at keeping them in character. Here the link to it if you want to see it:

www.fanfiction.net/s/6961960/1โ€ฆ

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:25:11 +0000 UTC]

Alright, might give it a look. But, to be honest, I'm not too big on Balto shipping materials (because of things like people fighting over who Kodi should be with, and the disturbing number of incestuous pairings, that sorta thing). But, hey, if it works, it works.

As for Niju himself, I felt that while he represented an interesting concept (villainy driven by fear of change and loss), he...was not that great of a character. Then again, as noted, a lot of that had to do with how underdeveloped a lot of the characters introduced in Wolf Quest were.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-02-28 23:35:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah the shipping wars are really intense in the Balto fanbase

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:38:20 +0000 UTC]

No kidding. The disputes with Kodi, Dusty, Kirby, and Ralph, for starters, and how sad that can get. (Such as one fanfic I came across that shipped Kodi/Kirby and utterly demonized Dusty to justify the pairing...despite that Dusty never shows anything that could be constituted as romantic interest in Kodi in canon.)

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-02-28 23:47:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I normally prefer to picture Kodi as a bisexual to avoid that. I heard that the directors of the third film confirmed that Dusty and Ralph were an actual couple. It's funny how there's only three confirmed couples in the movies.

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:52:08 +0000 UTC]

Balto/Jenna, Dusty/Ralph, and...what was the other one? And, eh, the closest I've come to shipping Kodi was in a massive anthro crossover concept (had several Balto characters, natch) where he bonded with TMNT's Alopex. Then again, I made a Dusty/Ralph a canonical couple in that to settle the damn disputes if I ever got around to writing these ideas.

That's just a pet peeve of mine, where a good character is utterly demonized for the sake of making something like a pairing look good. Especially when it's a character who, going by canon, barely or never was even a threat to the pairing to begin with. (Like an annoying number of A&O fics I came across where Garth was made into an utter bastard to justify Humphrey/Kate...often in ways that make me question if they even saw the movie.)

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-02-28 23:56:13 +0000 UTC]

The other was Boris/Stella.

I don't see why people make Garth a complete monster if in Canon he's interested in Lilly. Honestly, I'm okay with both the Kodi/Kirby and Kodi/Kirby as long as they don't make any of the characters a jackass. Why people demonize characters is beyond me (aside from the fact that they may not like the character).

It's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of AU fanfics.

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-02-28 23:59:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh, right. I forgot about that one because I share the fandom's contempt for Stella.

It has to do with a mental approach of some shippers wherein they have to make some kind of justification, usually by making an asinine foil like that. That, and sometimes it's a case where the author just plain hates the character and demonizes them, even if, again, they never were a (real) threat to their OTP to begin with.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, to be honest she has to be one of my least favorite characters.

I know some fans who aren't fans of Garth but they don't even say that he's a horrible character. The closest Garth was to be I.g a threat was when he was engaged to Kate in the beginning.
Like you said, fans will always do unnecessary. There are fanfics where Kodi tells his father he's gay and Balto will suddenly disown Kodi for no reason at all. Those kinds of fanfics piss me offย  ย 

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:10:58 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, Stella was just a pointless character. But, as I've said before, the sequels were pretty flawed.

Eh, some of those are just going for cheap drama. After all, what way to have your coming out story be more conflicted than to have a parent suddenly turn homophobe?

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:13:52 +0000 UTC]

It just seems WAY out of character for a nice character like Balto to be like that. I think Balto has the worst shipping fan base I've seen.

BTW, what fanbase in your opinion has the most benign shipping views (or is the closest to being being)?

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:19:26 +0000 UTC]

I honestly would not know. But I will say that the Balto fanbase utterly pales in terms of shipping disputes and issues compared to, say, the Sonic and MLP fanbases (both of which I am part of, to a degree).

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:23:10 +0000 UTC]

Oh my... like Joshscorcher once said, "Shippers ruin lives."

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:25:58 +0000 UTC]

Just the voracious ones. Most aren't that bad. And, hell, even I can be weird when it comes to shipping. After all, I kinda like the idea of Dixie and Steele as a pairing-although I know it'd never work. I'm not sure why, either.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:31:04 +0000 UTC]

Well like in the case of AleuXNiju, Dixie/Steele can help give character development to both canines. Though I prefer shipping her with Star.

I like to do a lot of shipping. I myself love to ship Gerta and Carface from ADGTH. I even ship Red and Belladonna as well as Annabelle and Lance.

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:39:32 +0000 UTC]

Heh, with ADGtH, I'm pretty much just Charlie/Sasha. Seen some cute Charlie/Annabelle stuff, however. (I am convinced that both Annabelle and Belladonna had an attraction to Charlie in some way.)

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:41:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, didn't Belladonna try to sexually seduce Charlie once?

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:46:40 +0000 UTC]

It can be interpreted as such. There is a part in her villain song, "Take the Easy Way", where she wags her ass suggestively at him. However, the series made it clear(er) that her main objective with Charlie was the thrill of corrupting him to get at Annabelle. So, it's hard to say, honestly. But at times, I get the feeling both cousins have something of a thing for him.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:48:05 +0000 UTC]

One could say that Charlie is a bit of a pimp. Hey do you wanna hear a pretty good song?

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saffronpanther In reply to LavaMan32 [2015-03-01 00:50:28 +0000 UTC]

Uh...ikay?

I suppose he just has that charm. I mean Sasha (arguably), Flo, Belladonna, Annabelle, and King Gator all demonstrated an interest in him.

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LavaMan32 In reply to saffronpanther [2015-03-01 00:53:08 +0000 UTC]

He is a charismatic character.

The songs from One Piece so if you're watching the show and aren't past the Drum Kingdom arc, you will be spoiled

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8zYCโ€ฆ

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