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Sagovir [2024-06-28 01:51:40 +0000 UTC]
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r-xse [2019-12-17 21:09:54 +0000 UTC]
yeah just say ur a homophobic fetishist lol
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Nakkurussu [2019-02-11 09:12:18 +0000 UTC]
Yaoi literally means "boys love" in Japanese. Why is it homophobic to say that two people love each other?
And please, consider researching a bit if you want to prove me wrong before deeming me a "homophobe" and blocking me. I'm not even straight myself, just so you know. In fact, I even have a girlfriend! (I'm female)
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sea-horses In reply to Nakkurussu [2019-02-11 21:11:51 +0000 UTC]
quote from wikipedia: "A form of hentai involving two or more males in a homosexual relationship, primarily intended for a female audience."
it's a term literally created by straight women for straight women that is used to fetishize gay men
straight people still use it today in that way by saying stuff like "uwu my yaoi babies" and stuff like that, as well as calling gay couples "sin"
not to mention, the term fujoshi, which is a female fan of yaoi, literally means "rotten girl" which implies that shipping/supporting gay couples is "dirty" or "sinful"
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GOJISAMA [2018-12-16 03:42:43 +0000 UTC]
w hat?
So if I use stuffs like yaoi/yuri/uke/seme, I'm being HOMOPHOBIC, disrespectful and offensive?
Lol though. I'm an actual LGBT+ supporter so I just don't understand where's the deal with this?
I'm a trans guy, I might be hetero, but I have MANY bisexual/pansexual friends of a mine who use those words.
Are they homophobic now? Noting up the fact that they're "half gay"?
Those are just words. Yaoi and Yuri aren't used in the same "offensive" way than "trap" or "tranny" are used to talk about trans people.
It had literally lost its meaning. Yaoi and Yuri are (as much as I know) terms more mangas/animes with same sex relationships stories.
There's the same things with hetero relationships stories. People just had to name those type of stories, just like they've been using the words shojo, shounen, bara, echi etc
People knows how to make the difference between fictional stories and actual real same sex couples.
But I guess it also depends of the context. Like the word trap for exemple. Originally, traps are cis characters who dress as the opposite gender, crossdressers technically.
Now if someone call a trans person a trap, it is transphobic and extremely rude.
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sea-horses In reply to GOJISAMA [2018-12-16 20:49:35 +0000 UTC]
first off, if you're straight, then you don't really get a say in what is offensive/not offensive to same-gender relationships
secondly pansexual/bisexual people are not "half gay" lmao, they're their own sexuality
lastly, i've seen lots of lgbtq+ people saying that it upsets/offends them when they see those terms being used. a few people that aren't offended don't represent all the other people who are. also 'yaoi' is a term coined by straight women who get off to gay men so it really is not a great term to use
it's really just better to stick to terms that are made by and used by the lgbtq+ community instead
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IceOfWaterflock [2018-09-13 18:41:51 +0000 UTC]
dont read this as like an angry contradiction, it's chill - while yaoi is a fetishistic term, yuri isn't! yaoi was coined for explicit content, while yuri was coined by the lgbt community of japan; yuri refers to any intimate connection between women, including romantic, and it translates to 'lily'! it's only really in north america where it's been bastardized into only referring to explicit content.
that being said, if you're not speaking japanese / referring to japanese media, yuri is still probably best left out of one's vocabulary because it's essentially 'lesbian' in a different language.
(sorry to infodump a bit, i just think it's important information and not many people know it!)
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Nakkurussu In reply to IceOfWaterflock [2019-02-11 09:13:04 +0000 UTC]
It isn't a fetishistic term actually. At least, it never used to be. It means "boys love" in Japanese.
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IceOfWaterflock In reply to Nakkurussu [2019-02-11 13:44:47 +0000 UTC]
i hate to be the one to inform you but it was named for the porn genre
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sea-horses In reply to IceOfWaterflock [2018-09-13 19:59:40 +0000 UTC]
oh, i didnt know that! thank you for telling me!
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IceOfWaterflock In reply to sea-horses [2018-09-14 00:10:41 +0000 UTC]
np np!! i figure its neat trivia if nothing else. hope people havent been stressin you out over the stamp though
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KateLovesDraws [2018-09-13 14:49:48 +0000 UTC]
O I never dont know that thanks!
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Elegance-and-Sin [2018-09-13 14:13:25 +0000 UTC]
I agree with some of it. Mostly the trap/tranny shit because those are actually slurs but i fail to see how yaoi and yuri are offensive. I mean some people fetishize lgbt people regardless of what they call them. I'm actually trans male and in a relationship with a man and i like yaoi and other same sex things (bara/yuri/shounen and shoujo ai) am i somehow "fetishizing" my own community? Lol.
Not trying to be a dick but i think it's entirely based on context whether these things are offensive or not.
Ex. Someone simply referring to lgbt art as yaoi/yuri not offensive, vs someone saying "ugh so ur like in one of those kinky gross yaoi relationships" which is being offensive.
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raikostar [2018-09-13 10:04:20 +0000 UTC]
Is not kawii to use terms like yaoi and yuri internet sama sempai kun ( am I weeb enough for the joke)
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