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Tr0janZed In reply to kingzme [2016-11-06 18:45:34 +0000 UTC]

Well, Nibiru supposedly has 2 moons, (In the bible of course)


Just letting you know...I don't believe in this stuff.

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still-sammywhiskers In reply to kingzme [2014-06-28 07:39:51 +0000 UTC]

huh nibiru is massive i descoverd that nibiru is bigger than jupiter

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Tr0janZed In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2016-11-06 18:46:29 +0000 UTC]

At least someone can have an opinion on this planet other then screaming that the person who believes it is an idiot.

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XexiliaOShadows In reply to Tr0janZed [2016-12-10 01:37:27 +0000 UTC]

  I'm not sure who you mean (If it's me, I sincerely apologize, as it was not my intention.). When I wrote about this, this was prior to 12-21-2012, the Mayan date of the end of their calender, and that somehow Nibiru got roped into (I believe this is because the Mayans described a variety of events of their end of the world idea that DO make sense if a much larger astrological body were in close proximity, earth quakes, floods, and so on.). 

  I think I would best sum up my views on this, the paranormal, conspiracies, and so on with "I Want to Believe"; I actually DO believe--just not everything.  I temper my urge to believe, and even my own religious believes (Neo Pagan), with science, though I don't rely on science as the end all to any explaination or argument: We may know a good deal about the physical world our eyes can see, but we don't know all, and to assume so it's sheer hubris.  Some things we have solved the mysteries behind, but no answer is one-size-fits-all.  There will always be exceptions, new knowledge to be gained with new perspectives.

  I don't believe that anyone who believes in any kind of fringe science, ideas, or theories to be idiotic or crazy; I consider them open minded, more so than the average person, and more willing to accept new ideas and change--which I believe to be good things.  Sadly, there's a lot of people online who either like to mock such people, by doing so openly or hoax-ing them, or worse; People who do believe and want to so much they will do whatever they can to help others see what they see and what they believe.
  For example, a few years ago there was a high quality video circulating that showed a craft with palm-tree-like fronds extending from it and allowing it to rise and hover.  It was being touted as clear proof as well as a new kind of craft.
  When traced back to the original source, the video was a film from YouTube made by an animation company.  They hadn't made it to fool anyone; They had made it to demonstrate their abilities, and it's title and information box made it well known since the point was to get them hired to work on projects.  They had no interest in fooling people, just in making something believable looking that could get them hired to work on film production.  Someone had taken their video and placed it elsewhere and called it proof; Wether they were out to hoax people or convert, I'll never know.  What I do know is all they ultimately did was cause harm to this field of study, which I feel should be given all the seriousness we give to any kind of academia.

  People who wanted to believe didn't hunt down the source; And when told, claimed it had to be some coverup.  Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one, and on earth, the simple answer is: People can be real jerks to others for believing in anything at all, because they lost the ability to a long, long time ago.  Really, these people are jealous that the believers have kept a sense of wonder and innocence about the world, believing most in only that they do not know everything.  Someone took that away from most people--and they set out to take it from the rest of us.  The excuses are too many: "We all have to grow up sometime," "You're too old to. . .", "That's impossible," "What are you, stupid?"
  We're made to feel ashamed for being curious, for being dreamers, thinkers; We have to fight it.  I've no evidence for it, but I'm sure many great inventors and innovators heard the same phrases, even after a few successes.  There were probably projects they never showed or shared out of the shame, or perhaps never attempted to create.  We should mourn that.


  My goal with these comments was to calm people down; Pre-2012, a LOT of people were panicking, preparing for the end of the world.  Since I lived through Y2K in 1999, I'd seen this all happen before.  I figured if I was wrong, we'd all be dead and you guys could shame me in the afterlife and tell me you told me so; I figured if my research was right, I may save a few people from losing sleep--which I assure you, was my only goal, to provide counter-evidence to help provide some peace of mind.

  Maybe Nancy Leder is talking to the Zeta; Research doesn't say she isn't--just that she's getting back information.  After reading as many UFO books as I have, I can tell you this for certain: She would be far from the first contactée to be lied to by these things, and she will be far from the last.  I cannot prove or disprove her claims or truths; But I do know that these things do love to tell us the world is about to end, and they've been doing it for several hundred years now.  What the end goal of that is, I have no idea.

  If you like, I highly recommend The 12th Planet and The Mothman Prophecies (NOT.   THE.  MOVIE.). I very much enjoy discussing these subjects and welcome any further contact from you or others on the topic.  I'm published on ghosts, though sadly the ones I found, many have evidence disproving them (Not all, just the really juicy sounding stories), and a few years after the article came out moved into a profoundly haunted home (Granted--I grew up in one, but the activity in my childhood home is FAR less pronounced), which eventually I keep telling myself I will share in a YouTube video (So I can show how the house looked and so forth.)

  Thank you for the reply, even if you may be under the impression I'm a cold, hard skeptic; I'm not, but if I gave you that impression, again, I deeply apologize and never intended to mock anyone, just to help people sleep soundly (Though after all the research I've done. . .you may realize why I'm an insomniac. . .)

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montannbis336 In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2012-03-01 15:14:33 +0000 UTC]

u wrote ^this^ two years ago, wat u think now? think da sky might actually fall? i hav all of zacharia stitchen's books only started one tho, hav yet to finish them.... butttt i am somewhat convinced this planet exits and is comin bak...

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XexiliaOShadows In reply to montannbis336 [2012-03-01 21:53:08 +0000 UTC]

The idea that Nibiru exists was established (I believe) by Stitchen; You should note Zacharia Stitchen is one of six people on the entire planet capable of reading cuneiform--the first written language--as the other five kind of alienate him for his claims; It sort of makes me wonder why, exactly, and as the majority of the people able to read the same language refuse to hang out with this guy for his claims, it has to make me questions how authentic they are to start with; Let's not forget, books have an agenda--to get sold and sell more--and it's one hell of a book pitch for a publisher to get; "I have ancient documents claiming a planet comes around once every 3,600 years"--would you turn it down? It's going to sell with the pretext and being written by someone able to read a language only five others can fact check.

That said; The idea Nibiru was going to collide with the earth is never a claim Z. Stitchen made. In fact, it's addressed on his site and wiki, last I checked, that he did not, nor had ever, believed this was possible; The Sumarians didn't say our planets hit every 3,600 years, but their's got close enough they could fly over from it; This idea, actually, was first introduced by Nancy Lieder ([link] ), a woman who believes aliens from Zeta Reticuli are telepathically communicating with her, who, she claims, gave her this information. Few people know this, however, so when they type in 'Nibiru' into Google and a thousand videos show up showing the planet's expected position, trajectory, etc. against our own, and the likelihood of it causing and ELE (Extinction Level Event). . .they put these two things together and freaked out. Very few people bother to find out Stitchen's thoughts, from the wikipedia on the subject ([link] ):

"However, Sitchin, who died in 2010, denied any connection between his work and Lieder's claims. In 2007, partly in response to Lieder's proclamations, Sitchin published a book, The End of Days, which set the time for the last passing of Nibiru by Earth at 556 BC, which would mean, given the object's supposed 3,600-year orbit, that it would return sometime around AD 2900.[17] He did however say that he believed that the Annunaki might return earlier by spaceship, and that the timing of their return would coincide with the shift from the astrological Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, sometime between 2090 and 2370."

I had read a quote, I recall but am unable to locate, where Stitchen had gone so far as to make a diagram showing that, with the path the planet has according to Sumarian record, it would never hit our planet. It's not like it gets so close the beings could just jump from one to the other!

These days, a lot of people are looking into this because of 2012 and the Mayan calendar. People fail to understand how this calendar works--which is just like our own, so here's a great example: Let's pretend you and I live in the year 4000--it's all future-y and cool. We're archeologists and, just like we've forgotten most of our own recent past, like Middle Ages, we've forgotten 2011. So, you and I are excavating at a site, and we dig up a huge poster hanging of a calendar--one solid piece of material with the entire 2011 year marked by days of the week and such, like normal. Except, you and I don't know that--our calendars in the year 4000 are way different--so we don't know what this is. To the future, this is an ancient, possibly religious relic; Modern day, it's a calendar of no real significance. A new year comes and we throw away the old one; But we don't find any more 2011 calendars--maybe we only find them up until this year, or no other calendars exactly like this one--so we assume it's all special. It isn't. Then we decode it and discover, oh no! It's a warning calendar! It's for the year 2011--which must mean 4011--and there's no more calendar after 2011! The world ends at 4011 because that's all the calendar there is left!

But. . .it isn't. It's just a calendar of no significance and when an old year is up, we automatically get a new one; A whole new calendar. The old one is now slightly off, after all.

And researchers say the Mayan calendar is the same; 2012 wasn't the end of the world. . .it's the end of the damn calendar! The Mayans probably would have carved a new one up; For all we're aware, they could have been making these ahead of time and stopped at 2012 when their civilization did--no big mystery, just, the guy who made the calendars died, or was needed to hunt, or something.


Now; There's going to be a lot of freak out's this year, I'm guessing--probably even mass suicides, similar to Heaven's Gate and such; But we panicked with Y2K, and that wasn't based on anything better--Nostradamus couldn't even predict the weather--but people didn't care about the facts. If you bear the facts in mind, you'll be okay.

Compounding both these issues are people with mental illnesses that induce paranoia; These types tend to follow UFO lore fairly closely and tend to latch onto ideas that resonate within their own--they believe in aliens, they are paranoid they are coming, and now people are swearing they are; They, in turn, spread the panic like a disease. Secondly, are people who are allegedly contacted by an alien being and told things to this effect; Some, though few, are lying or have some illness, but most won't be. They'll be the types we tend to take seriously.
The problem with these folks is, these beings have played this game before. They did it to John Keel, they did it to small villages in the countryside in the 18-something's (Which ended up becoming a religious sect when the world failed to end), and they're doing it now; Laying the ground work to leave up sitting atop hills looking like fools.

The main problem presented is, if Nibiru is coming, we'd be able to see it with the naked eye; You can see Venus, Jupiter, Saturn with the naked eye, which are farther--and we're talking about something getting, as far as our technology goes, as close as the moon. No matter what angle it comes at, if it were here--here in time for 2012--it'd be visible by now.
Additionally; A large force like that would have major impacts on our climate--earthquakes, for example--that would get worse and worse as it got closer. While we have had some tragic events, they did not continue to escalate.


Now, let's say Nibiru is real and still populated; I don't know if it's real or not, but the Sumarians had an advanced knowledge of the solar system--surpassing our own, current understanding at times--so it's seems highly unlikely the planet, so far as a physical object existed; Does it still?
Perhaps not; We're quick to imagine our planets demise, but with such an odd orbit, I'd think Nirbiru stands a larger chance of being wiped out in a blink by a random interstellar event; We talk big, but we don't get everything about, or know about everything in, space. I would doubt, however, an astroid would cause it's downfall.
According to the Sumarians, Marduk (Nibiru) slayed Tiamat (half-formed Earth), by accidentally slamming into it. What had happened was Nibiru had an earlier orbit, but got pulled into an oddball one by chance--hitting Tiamat and sending it, and it's moons, into space. It's remains left behind became the astroid belt--which no one knows why is there--and is the reason given for astroids, being frozen water, which no one is sure how it got into space, let alone why it's on a path. Of course, we only have one moon. . .right?
So, we're left with more evidence towards Stitchen's theory than not, and the fact that, if Nibiru hit Tiamat, which was bigger than earth at the time, and sent it flying, no piece off of Tiamat, as a astroid, would be big enough to destroy Nibiru.

So, let's pretend it's out there and it's populated, and now it's here.
I would say this is a bad thing; A very bad thing.
Stitchen says it himself; The original wording was 'Man shall work for God', not worship--and, according to him, that's why they made us to start with. They came with their own slave race and over worked them, and looking around, they found these naturally occurring lifeforms they could tweak and set to work.
That means these beings see us the way a scientist sees a research animal; Expendable. A life Not As Important As Theirs. We will not be equals--no, it's more likely that, if they return, we become slaves. For all we know, this always happens; What of societies who disappear, all at once, in the middle of dinner? Where they find no evidence of where they went? It's happened more than once. What if they are why our society seems to to have forgotten it's past and origins? Do they come, take us, and leave just enough to 'be fruitful and multiply' until the next empty cargo ship comes, resetting out society, progress, memories? So many ancient cultures started advanced and became less advanced as time went on, why?

I would say our best hope is that Nibiru was destroyed or it's population died off; We know they were no environmentalists--they came, they claimed, to mine for gold to repair their atmosphere--which we know also repairs our own. I doubt they will bring peace and advances; They will probably bring war and death. We're talking about an 'advanced' society that still uses slaves--not good. An 'advanced' society that destroyed it's own planet--even worse. If they could live on our planet, they may just take it. Why bother living on their destroyed one?

Fun fact: Many UFO contactees report the beings they encounter asking them for "AU"--the element symbol for gold.
Fun fact: Many UFO contactees report the beings seem to be "struggling to breathe" and "out of breathe" and "had labored breathing".
Fun fact: People who refuse to be named claim the beings are waiting to make full on contact for when they can breathe our atmosphere.
Fun fact: Some of those taken aboard 'ships' of the beings have reported being exposed to a noxious gas, that makes them sick (Their atmosphere?)
Fun fact: Many pieces of ancient artwork we think could be that of visitors of some nature appear to be wearing a suit that seems to include a breathing apparatus.

If all of the above is true, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture; It adds up to a take over--or planet switch--giving us the ruined planet and keeping the less damaged one themselves. The beings--whatever they may be--do take a big interest in our environment and in making sure we don't blow ourselves up--why? Why do they care that much? They're here, and not on their planet, which makes me think theirs, if they have one (If they exist), isn't a nice place to live; But our's is. Why are they more concerned with our planet than their own? What are their true motives?


However, Nibiru is not going to hit our planet in 2012, nor will the world end. People do this every few decades.

While the books are interesting, I would suggest reading John Keel. Stitchen's books are fascinating, but Nibiru, by his estimates, won't be here for a few more hundred years

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FictionFinder In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2012-09-26 22:24:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank God that there are still some people with common sense out there. Yes, I would love to see a new planet because who wouldn't wanna see a new member to the Solar System family?

I just wish people would understand that Nibiru won't hit us, like you said, we would be able to see it by now, the very idea has nothing to do w/ the Mayan doomsday prophecy, and that we would be able to see it by now.

In my opinion, I believe that people are mistaking Nibiru sightings for Venus or Mars sightings, mainly because they can see them, but they don't put though into what they were seeing.

So... you can actually see Jupiter with the naked eye? Wow, that's neat.

Long dA comment ever, but it was totally worth it! Thanks for getting the worry out of me!

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Tr0janZed In reply to FictionFinder [2016-11-06 18:49:15 +0000 UTC]

Yep, also, you can see Jupiter with you own eyes! An elk can see Saturn's rings from earth, so.

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FictionFinder In reply to Tr0janZed [2017-01-06 10:01:24 +0000 UTC]

A little late (don't really use this account anymore), but yep.

Anyway get ready for NIBIRU DOOMSDAY 2017 HAPPENING NEXT MONTH!!!!!!

...N-NO, WAIT, I MEAN THE MONTH AFTER!!!!!

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SamiEggPower In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2012-07-23 06:49:12 +0000 UTC]

Coolest info I've seen you've done your research!

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saleh9 In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2010-07-12 07:51:46 +0000 UTC]

is f**** is not real for God knows 2012

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XexiliaOShadows In reply to saleh9 [2010-07-12 12:09:13 +0000 UTC]

Did you even read my comment, or did you mean to comment on the picture itself?

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saleh9 In reply to XexiliaOShadows [2010-07-12 12:12:56 +0000 UTC]

lol

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chessykat In reply to FootballLover [2009-09-03 01:30:57 +0000 UTC]

What is it? I'm confused!

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AquaKacheek In reply to chessykat [2009-09-16 00:24:36 +0000 UTC]

A planet that gonna DESTORY US ALL

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chessykat In reply to AquaKacheek [2009-09-16 01:44:53 +0000 UTC]

H-how?

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AquaKacheek In reply to chessykat [2009-09-16 03:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Crazy people say that it has a 2000 orbit that hits earth I like the thought of another planet though

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DD2111 In reply to AquaKacheek [2011-09-30 17:08:57 +0000 UTC]

Its not gona hit the Earth.Thats a load of bullshit.Its going to slingshot around the sun,cause a polar shift,probably bring some meteors with it to batter us a bit more and then follow us for 2-3 days(3 days of darkness) and leave us to the mercy of big ass solar flares(and new particles that are mutating/evolving matter) with most of the magnetic shielding gone.EPICNESS ENSUES!!!

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viva9626 In reply to wonderfulWL [2009-04-05 13:44:45 +0000 UTC]

It will be viewable as a daytime star in May, but in 2012 they will be close enough to take over the planet, along with the Free Masons.

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DD2111 In reply to viva9626 [2011-09-30 17:19:32 +0000 UTC]

Who?The Annunakis?Yeah highly unlikely.As soon as Nibiru and Sol start battling it out on whos gona keep Earth a space time vortex or dimensional rift will open near Earth preventing any kind of light going past Nibiru causing the profecised 3 days of darkness.Also,preety rainbow coloured beings from higher dimensions will come down and shtuff like that and if we look at them were gona be "troubleshooted" into the 5th dimension.

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wonderfulWL In reply to viva9626 [2009-04-08 15:38:12 +0000 UTC]

WOW can nibiru sure ?

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SinapX In reply to wonderfulWL [2008-05-31 07:13:52 +0000 UTC]

The egyptians knows better .10x for the !!

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SinapX In reply to Elizabeth-Draven [2008-05-31 07:14:46 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it.

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SinapX In reply to loshmey [2008-01-10 05:39:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!!

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SinapX In reply to bigradart [2008-01-06 19:01:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!!

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