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Skelligiri — Handplates: No Going Back
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Published: 2017-07-14 00:14:51 +0000 UTC; Views: 5794; Favourites: 183; Downloads: 11
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Thought I'd submit something else before I go back to the UK on Monday. Boy, I reeeally didn't get to draw much during my time in Germany...I hope this picture makes sense. I wanted to draw Alphys and Gaster in this location first, but I didn't like the idea of drawing a scene directly from the original comic so I thought a 'mirror' picture between Gaster and his post-fall counterpart (speculating about his design) would work better.
I'm dreading Gaster's fall. My only solace is that he seems to be coming to terms with the idea of being erased from existence...
Original comic: zarla.deviantart.com/gallery/5…
((Also, I'll be replying to them individually soon, but for now, thank you so much for the birthday wishes guys!!))
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Coming here a year later to mention that it’s pretty interesting how many people thought his fall here was suicide.
Surprise! It was Sans. In an act of revenge. You go Sans!
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I still very much disagree with Sans' actions, but I understand he thought it was a choice between life and death.
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Oh yeah, I don’t condone revenge either, but it’s Sans.
Not surprised.
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I was pretty surprised still to be honest! I wouldn't have thought he'd connected the core with his vision!
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With all the hatred he had towards Gaster and all his self-pity about being worthless, I could totally see him committing some type of suicide while also acting in revenge.
But then again, I don’t think I ever had an idea on what his fall would be like. I binged read most of Handplates lol.
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IF ONLY YOU INVESTED IN SAFETY RAILS LIKE EVERYONE TOLD YOU TO, GASTER
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Ahhhh craap I forgot all about that safety rails subplot. This isn't gonna be a suicide is it.
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Face it, none of us are looking forward to his fall... ;_;
I kept bracing myself for the impact, but nothing in that direction seems to be happening just now.
It's a cool drawing though, in a foreboding kind of way.
It doesn't seem to me that Gaster is coming to terms with the idea of being erased so much as just feeling resigned to it.
Though honestly, it's hard to say just what's really going through his mind currently and how he feels about the situation.
Whatever he's feeling, it can't be good, heh.
The comic where he was talking to Alphys at the Core had me convinced he was going to throw himself into the Core.
Such an idea had surprised me, mostly I guess because I had presumed from the start it was going to be an accident
("He fell into his creation" seems to imply an accident, not something deliberate like suicide).
However, once the idea of him deliberately throwing himself in seemed like a very real possibility after all, it actually seemed to make a lot of sense. I had always wondered how in the world Gaster would accidentally fall. I figured his accident would have to tie in fittingly with the story's theme of choices somehow, but even this far into the story, I don't really see any possibilities for a scenario where a mere accident would tie into that. Him purposely jumping in would solve that plot problem, as it would tie in nicely to the whole theme of making choices.
Also, one of the Gaster Followers asks, "Will Alphys end up the same way [as Gaster]?" It's widely believed that Alphys may have considered suicide at least once (have you seen this amazing fan animation by the way?), and if according to Zarla's interpretation the Gaster Followers are fragments of Gaster's conscious, the Gaster Follower's question can suddenly make a lot more sense-- Gaster took his own life, and now wonders if Alphys will take the same path.
Finally, Zarla told me that even at the point where Papyrus is healing Gaster and admits that he can't see him when he looks ahead, Gaster could still make choices that would save him from his fate, despite the void monster's talk of "destiny." I guess it's a little far-fetched, but I had begun to wonder if maybe it would end up being some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, that Gaster would be convinced that he was going to die some way soon regardless of what he did, figured out that the Core had the ability to erase you from people's memories, and figured, "Hey, I'm going to die anyway, might as well get it over with now and in a way that spares everyone of any grief by having them forget I ever existed." In thinking he was doomed and unable to change fate, he'd ultimately end up being his own demise by making a bad choice. It was a crazy idea maybe, but if anything, it would've been beautifully... I don't know what the word for this situation would be, ironic?
However, it seems like the whole implied suicide mentality might've been a false alarm after all, so it seems like we're back to square one. Do you have any ideas how Gaster's going to fall into the Core?
Wow, this got lengthy. I hope you don't mind my rambling. Also, happy belated birthday!
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You know, it feels kinda weird typing this. But I was always kinda hoping Gaster's fall was a suicide. Just as a show of Mercy to those who loved him and those he loved, despite of how misguided that notion might be. He wants to pay for his mistakes, but he doesn't think he can. So once he figures out that he can erase other peoples' memory of him... well. I don't think the idea of a self-fulfilling prophecy is far-fetched at all. Maybe Papyrus can't see Gaster because Gaster is already leaning on the suicidal pathway? I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but one way or another... I REALLY want some redemption on Gaster's part, somehow.
I feel really bad for Alphys in Handplates. Gaster and Alphys being close friends makes so much sense to me, because Gaster meeting such an awful fate could very much subconsciously affect Alphys. I do believe she killed herself in several endings, I particularly remember the King Mettaton ending, where he mentions nobody having seen her for a while and feeling bad for the way he treated her I think? Now, I love Mettaton, but seriously. Nobody put a crown on that head of his.
I've never seen that animation... thank you for showing me. It's beautiful! Going straight into my faves!
And thanks! Spent my birthday in Germany for a change, lol. It was... busy. In a good way.
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Strangely enough, so am I now, though I think it’s for different reasons. If Gaster’s fall was a suicide, I’d at least feel better knowing that his death/erasure was something that could have easily been prevented (like so much of the pain and worry he’s caused the people in his life 
Whether Gaster removing himself from the people who loved him would be an act of mercy is open for debate, heh. This topic actually led me to have an interesting conversation with my sister, who also reads Handplates (she calls Gaster “slap-worthy,” lol). I asked her if she thought the idea of Gaster throwing himself into the Core could be justified (this is presuming that he was, in fact, aware he’d be erased from everyone’s memories). After all, the skelebros had been put through so much because of him and would likely be traumatized with memories of him and what he did to them, while his friends would be heartbroken and disappointed in him. He’d be in disgrace, his relationships with everyone could be forever tainted, and things might never be the same again. It doesn’t seem there’d be much to look forward to in his future, and removing himself from everyone’s memories would spare them of the grief or trauma they’d otherwise have to deal with. If he disappeared, maybe everyone would win, including him. However, my sister said that doing that would be a cowardly act. And yes, slap-worthy. She felt that by committing suicide, he’d only be running from his problems, when he should instead take responsibility for his actions (and his children) and face the mess he made. She also felt that considering the kind of people his friends were and how much they cared about him, they would forgive him, and in general, whatever consequences he might have to deal with wouldn’t be so unbearable as to justify taking his own life. She makes a good point I reckon.
Yeah, I feel bad for her too. She clearly looked up to Gaster and got a lot of psychological support from him, and after he disappeared, she must’ve felt pretty alone before she met Undyne. Sure, she still had Asgore, but they wouldn’t have had that special colleague kind of relationship she and Gaster had had. On top of all that, it was pretty evident she had a major crush on him (too bad the skeledork is bad at picking up hints , pfft). Even now in the current arc, there are pretty heavy implications of it—her narration at the beginning of the comic where she hacks into Gaster’s lab seems to imply that she’s a bit too emotionally invested in Gaster for him to just be a “close acquaintance” to her. Now that’s she found the skelebros though, goodness knows what’s going through her mind.
I know, right? It’s like something from a professional animated film; one of those especially artistic ones. I love it when fans create masterpieces like these.
This is my other favorite UT animation out there.
youtu.be/7n9zJKhTeaU
So pretty... *.*
it doesn’t help that it’s done to one of my favorite UT soundtracks either.
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I don't think Gaster's 'death' was always unavoidable in this universe, neither at any point in UT as it's always about choices. For me, Gaster jumping into the core certainly wouldn't hold any comfort, but I'd prefer it over the alternative... Gaster falling unexpectedly would be even more heartbreaking to me. I'm not sure why... maybe it's the choice involved? Making a conscious choice rather than getting ripped from existence. Man, I really hope he doesn't struggle, it's gonna be hard enough as it is....
Gaster's act being cowardly.... Well, that's certainly debatable. If it was simply a suicide, I'd agree 100%. It would cause his loved ones a lot of extra grief, on top of what he's already put them through. And I also believe that all of them are capable of forgiving him for his actions, even Sans. It would take time and work, but it's possible.
But this isn't a suicide, is it?
Gaster describes it as 'something worse than death'. He knows that everything he worked on can live without him at this point. He might even have an idea of what awaits him, considering the fact that he's met the goop monster. If he does go in himself, I don't think it's out of cowardice, I think it would match two of the traits we know he has: It would be yet another bad choice, and it would be a way to punish himself in a way he knows nobody else could (I'm pretty sure he'd reject any forgiveness shown to him because 'he doesn't deserve it'... it feels like the skeledork is bottling up a lot of self-loathing).
If he had continued existing, I'm sure things would've worked out quite differently for Alphys. Even with the bad stuff he's done, or maybe because of just that, he might've been able to support her more than anyone else when it comes to the DT experiments.
... Wow. How in the world does a person go about creating such a beautiful animation?! And it's so long, too! O_o I can't believe I've never stumbled across this!
My personal favorite is this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn840A…
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Heh, believe me, I’d be happiest if he didn’t fall/jump in at all. But given the choice between it being an inevitable accident and it being a conscious decision, I’d feel slightly less depressed with the latter. Slightly.
Yeah, I do get the feeling he struggles with a lot of self-hatred. Punishing himself with a fate he’s convinced he deserves sounds like something right up his alley. If only he’d stop to consider how everyone else might feel about this decision and how his absence could affect them...
I think the way my sister saw it, if Gaster threw himself in, it’d be like he was bailing out of his situation without even “putting up a fight,” giving up on his future without even trying. She’s a sweetie, but she does tend to view Gaster in a critical light, haha. I actually kind of appreciate her skeptical attitude towards him though. She’s like an equalizer to my affection for him that provides a different perspective on his character. To say the least, it makes for some fun debates between us over him. XD
Anyway, on my part, I feel that his decision to jump into the Core would be a combination of hopelessness (convinced that he’s doomed by fate) and yes, probably self-loathing. It’s too soon to say though.
Yeah, he probably would’ve understood all too well what it was like to be in her kind of situation.
I guess only the animator knows. XD
This thing does deserve more views though, that's for sure, and if you didn't know that it and the previous animation existed, I'm glad I shared them. ^^
I think you can find this animation on DA as well?
Haha, I haven't seen this one. Thanks for sharing it.
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I feel bad for him now...I have no doubt he's gonna go in himself T-T
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I think so too, to be honest. : [ Poor skele. His actions are always so misguided.
((Btw, sorry I haven't submitted your skin yet! I haven't forgotten, I was abroad for 5 weeks and it was a lot busier than I thought.))
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it's not a problem :3 did u have fun?
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I just need to put in some credits, then I'll be uploading the skin... I think I figured out how. I think.
It was really nice seeing everyone again, so yeah, it was great! By the by, thank you so much for the badge and points!
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Tolle Idee für ein Thumbnail! Ich schaue die Comic Dubs nichtmal, aber das wird hoffentlich Zuschauer anlocken. Wenn es gewählt wird.
Ist es ok, wenn ich hier deutsch rede? Oder soll ich lieber englisch benutzen, damit es alle lesen können?
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Kannst ruhig Deutsch sprechen!
Und ich weiss um ehrlich zu sein gar nicht was aus diesem Contest geworden ist? Sie haben ein anderes Bild gewaehlt, was ja an sich kein Problem waere, aber.... kein Danke, keine Nachricht, keine Erwaehnung, gar nichts?
Naaa ja, was soll's.... Es war eine Gelegenheit, Gaster zu malen, lol.
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Hm, ich hab den Wettbewerb nicht wirklich weiter verfolgt, weil ich nicht teilnehme. Vielleicht ist er noch nicht abgeschlossen?
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Vielleicht gab's auch nie einen.
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Hey, hab da gerade ein Update gesehen! Der Wettbewerb endet wohl am 08. August.
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Ach wirklich?? Wenn's den wirklich gibt erwaehn ich ihn doch wieder in der Beschreibung, lol. Danke dass du's mir gesagt hast!
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Oh hoppla, ne, ich hab was verwechselt, das war ein anderer Wettbewerb (die Person wollte auch Gaster gezeichnet haben, deshalb hab ich es verwechselt...)
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Ach ja, der Refusetale Contest. Ueber den bin ich selbst gerade gestolpert.
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Hab die verwechselt, weil ich irgendwie gerade nur an Gaster als Motiv gedacht hatte, nicht an die AU.
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I'm dreading his fall too... I'm get the gloomy feeling that Handplates is coming to its end. I hope Gaster gets at least a little redemption and explicitly comes to terms with the fact that he did love them and they both realize that.
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I really, really hope so! And, I'm honestly not sure when Handplates is gonna end, I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to end with Gaster's fall. I'll guess we'll just have to see.
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Yeah, it doesn't! 'Cause we still gotta see how will the brothers fend for themselves, right?
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Yeah we do, and it would be interesting to see how/if the whole Gaster thing ties into the main story. I mean, Gaster doesn't 'die', does he? Could be that Frisk ends up running into the Gaster followers/ Gaster himself somewhere along the line. Whether anything like that happens or not, I hope the story won't end just yet.
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Just imagine what he knows must be doing to his already questionable mental state. Poor guy ;^;
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I know right? : [ I wonder what he'll do next, given these circumstances...
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I really like the reflection you put in this. I'm not looking forward to his fall either for some reason. I used to hate his guts, but he's a good tragic character.
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Glad to know the reflection turned out okay! Somehow, I never hated Gaster, not once, despite of all the bad stuff he did and how much I love the skelebros... that personality just strikes a chord with me I guess. Which is why I can't stop drawing him now that his fall is near.
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