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SRegan — Atlantean Migration Period

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Description My take on AlternateHistory.com's Atlantis challenge . It's somewhat pedestrian compared to the more creative interpretations of the challenge, but hopefully it combines enough plausibility with sufficient Ancient Aliens-ish connections to be interesting. As with my last MotF entry I ran out of time to do all the extras I wanted, such as a box-out of *Atlantis with the individual confederate kingdoms and cities depicted.

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Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour. For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end.

This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbor, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent.

Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This vast power, gathered into one, endeavored to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind.

She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars.

But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.

Plato, Timaeus and Critias

One of the things that struck me reading Plato's description is that the chief feature of it is not the island but World War 0.5; the attempted conquest of the entire known world by a mysterious sea power. That connected in my mind to the Bronze Age Collapse and the enigmatic Sea Peoples (I later learned conspiracists have made the same connection) and set about creating an atlas (heh) type map depicting the furthest extent of Atlantean control, prior to being pushed back by Hellenic and Egyptian forces.

In my imagining, the invasion (or rather, mass settlement with military force) happens because Atlantis is sinking; the waves of migration and conquest destablise the delicate web of trade in the Mediterranean in the 18th and 19th centuries BC, leading to the Collapse. The Atlanteans are recorded in Egyptian records as the Sherden (literally means 'sea people' - in reality identified with, variously, Anatolian, Syrian, Philistines, Sardinia, or Etruscans).

Atlantis here was gradually flooded over a period of around 300 years (from 1465BC), with a final sequence of devasting earthquakes from 1175 to 1165 finally sinking the island, together with the remaining infrastructure supporting the invasion. Around 1.3 million Atlanteans were left in the Mediterranean and were gradually integrated (with a lot of bad feeling) into the societies they had tried to conquer, leaving behind lots of loan-words (the derivation of which is listed by our linguists today as 'unknown') and flood myths.

I was then left with the difficulty of identifying the Atlanteans with a present-day civilisation; after umming and ahing about Semites I opted to go with the Berbers, in whose language 'Atla' means 'mountain' (supplying an interesting suggestion for the derivation of 'Italia'), and who would be the obvious candidates to have settled Atlantis in the first place, around 3000BC. A slight anachronism - 'Amazigh' (which I have tweaked into 'Atamazegh' to furnish a fictional root for both 'Atlantis' and 'Amazon') derives from 'i-Mazigh-en', or 'freemen', and wasn't employed until long after this time period.

The Atlanteans used weapons of arsenical bronze; their signature weapon was a wide, triangular-shaped thrusting sword called the farissa (which became the Berber Flyssa). They were noted for their characteristic helms, which bore two horns; officers having a solar disk of polished bronze between the horns. Their religion initially centred on the worship of a female embodiment of nature, however, her sun-god consort Wanaka gradually became more prominent until he became the primary deity of Atlantean civilisation. Wanaka eventually became Poseidon, whose name in Greek derives from 'Earth-shaker' ('Enosichthon'); his cult in Greece arose as a movement of 'penitent' Atlanteans and was quickly adopted by jubilant Hellenes.

A few Atlanteans made their way to the 'whole of the opposite continent that surrounded the true ocean', enslaving the Mexica, who knew them as the Azteca Chicomoztoca. The stories of the Azteca Chicomoztoca's origins gradually became transferred to their slave people, who, after gradually absorbing their masters, vaguely remembered a homeland called Aztlan.

The last substantial descendent population of Atlantis was the Guanches of the Canary Islands, albeit they are descendents of a group who attempted to return to Atlantis 200 years after the Fall. Guatimac is the last surviving idol of Wanaka; the broadly T or cross-shaped shape of Wanaka's idols influenced Adyghe's Tha which became the Norse Thor.

The Atlantean homelands were below sea level until around the first century BC, when an earthquake raised the Azores (which were Atlantis's mountain tops) above sea level. Joshua Vander Berg's (IOTL almost certainly hallucinated or fabricated) horse statue , which still exists but is overgrown, was the last seen relic of Atlantean civilisation.
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Comments: 13

syppy1 [2022-07-23 12:44:52 +0000 UTC]

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AmineGherensi [2018-10-17 16:09:45 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry about anachronisms since it possible that Berbers called themselves by an archaic form of Amazigh. Firstly, Amazigh itself is modern but it comes from the feminine form, Tamazghit. Secondly, it doesn't mean free men, it means noblemen. But that's okay, it's a common misconception. It is possible that the term the Ancient Egyptians gave one Berber tribe, the Meshwesh, comes from Tamazight and the same applies to the terms from other groups: Mauro and Mazice. So your AH is historically accurate most likely than not.

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kyuzoaoi [2017-05-13 01:20:42 +0000 UTC]

So the Guanches and Berbers are the remnants of Atlantis?

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SRegan In reply to kyuzoaoi [2017-05-13 09:28:55 +0000 UTC]

Sort of. I hedged my bets by stipulating that Atlantis was settled by proto-Berbers, so after the exodus they merged back into the north African linguistic and cultural landscape. I didn't want the Guanches to be direct remnants of Atlantis (explaining why there are no stone structures or traces of advanced metalworking on the islands); instead, I posited that they were descendents of a group that sailed back to Atlantis, tried to settle on the last mudbanks, then evacuated again as those broke up and settled in a much reduced state in the Canary Islands.

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InfernoMole [2017-04-29 14:59:15 +0000 UTC]

This is great, but...

>Troy
>Not in Anatolia

IT'S WRONG

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SRegan In reply to InfernoMole [2017-04-30 17:11:05 +0000 UTC]

...huh. You know, I have no idea why that is, and this wasn't even that long ago. I feel I would have remembered if I'd been going off an article that legitimately argued that Wilusha was not classicial Ilium. Best guess - I looked at a map of pre-Roman Greece and assumed 'Toryne' was another name for Troy, though it's still not quite right.

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noahcat [2017-01-11 22:10:17 +0000 UTC]

Cool! You got any more Atlantis stuff? Or do you know good sites with intentional pseudohistory that deals with Atlantis myth?

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SRegan In reply to noahcat [2017-01-12 20:20:13 +0000 UTC]

It's honestly not something I've got into before - just felt inspired by the MotF challenge. It does fit into the work I was doing on a short story/map piece where the Red Book of Westmarch* is sensationally revealed to be a real historical artefact, with archaeological digs uncovering traces of Gondorian and Númenor/Atalantë. Obviously this is a much more realistic take on the idea, and I gave some thought as to how a Bronze Age civilisation might 'disappear' linguistically and culturally.

* The oft-forgotten metafictional conceit behind The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings.

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noahcat In reply to SRegan [2017-01-12 22:03:19 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes.... are you perhaps aware of the fact that Frodo's name was not actually Frodo? And that Rohirrim did not speak Old English?

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SRegan In reply to noahcat [2017-01-12 22:13:05 +0000 UTC]

Indeed - I mention it in my Gollum redesign . Other pieces - Sauron , Gollum (initial).

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Todyo1798 [2016-12-18 14:45:33 +0000 UTC]

Brilliant, I always loved a good historical take on old legends, and this one is excellent, including the slightly overstretched linguistics.  Also nice to see the Berbers and the Guanches getting some love, as far as oft forgotten ancient peoples go they're some of the more interesting.  Also, Guanches made god damn mummies?  The History Channel would have been all over that shit.

As a side note, you could have added in a little bit about the Atlantic Bronze Age en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic… (formatting links on here is hard), since it's a bit of an interesting cultural phenomenon which would fit perfectly into the established history you've got.  Plus love for the Celts

I'd considered trying to establish some iffy connection between the Berbers, the Basques, and the pre-Celtic British and Irish based on that theory.  The Picts are distinct from the Britons, and there's some evidence that folks in the north of Ireland maintained some pre-Gaelic language and customs, but it's all a bit too far fetched and slightly Irish Supremacist on my part.

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SRegan In reply to Todyo1798 [2016-12-18 18:06:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! The Atlantic Bronze Age Culture definitely fits in - presumably ITTL it was spread by Atlantean tradesmen dispersing through Western Europe. There was a theory at one point that the Basque language had some similarities to Tuareg, though I believe not well-regarded these days. The thing is, languages are huge, and taking any two languages, no matter how divergent, you will probably find some set of phonemes that represents a similar concept. For example, while looking up this map I came across the Potomac/Potomos connection (where 'Potomos' is Greek for 'river'), which is fine as long as you don't realise 'Potomac' is the Anglicised version of Patawo-meake, which means 'Swan River'; so if anything 'Poto-mos' would have to come from 'Patawo-meake' rather than vice versa. Similarly 'teotl' ('God' in Nahuatl) drops the 'tl' in a longer word and becomes 'teo' (as in temple = 'teocalli'), which looks a lot like the Indo-European tiw/diw/zeus/deus/theos. Irish legend is pretty useful as it's basically a long chain of invaders/settlers, some proportion of which are probably historical and the rest legendary.

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Todyo1798 In reply to SRegan [2016-12-18 23:01:15 +0000 UTC]

Considering how your Atlanteans also settle in the Levant then it's also likely that the Phoenician push westwards and out of the Mediterranean (which of course brought the Atlantic trade network into contact with the Med one) was driven by a sort of cultural memory that there was some decent scratch to be made from the Barbarians out west.

I was unaware of that, to make matters even weirder I've read on some not very reputable websites that in the 19th and early 20th centuries Gaelic speakers (Scots and Irish) in Morocco found themselves able to communicate with the local Berbers with little difficulty.  And there's also the Irish myths that we came from Spain, that discredited blood test which concluded that our earliest inhabitants were Basque related, and some theories that there's a connection between Shluh and Gaelic and Welsh when it comes to sentence structure.  

The problem being that most people who talk about this stuff also like measuring skulls and talking about race in rather outdated terms.  If I tried to put forward a "Basques, Berbers, Britons:  Here before the Indo-Europeans!" idea then I'd be up there with the guys who make maps about how Germanic various bits of Europe are.  Frankly I don't like talking to them that much

Also thanks for dropping some linguistic bombs on me.  I suppose at the end of the day there is a limit to the range of noises a human mouth and throat can make, and within any language those noises are going to be limited even further by the way it shifts and shapes itself over time.  Hell just look at Click consonants in Subsaharan Africa.  A million miles away from its neighbours.

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