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Another cat character design I had lying around for a while. She needs a home.- $70
- You may tweak the design at your heart's content, but don't overdo it.
- You can change the species, breed etc.
- You may change / choose its gender.
- I am allowed to reject your offer.
- Paypal only.
- Buyer will receive this image with the character and a colour palette.
- Comment to claim.
In case you're interested in other designs I have -> silverdeni.deviantart.com/art/…
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beautiful, that is a lot of fur detail! also I love how you draw hand paws.
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70 dollars for a design seems like a little much.
Especially considering that everyone can design a character himself...
But oh well. The design is very lovely.
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I'm sorry but this is really rude.
While you are right, anyone can design a character, the one you would be paying for comes from a reputable artist who put their time and effort into this piece. On top of that its a two piece design/ reference commission.
This price is extremely fair and in my opinion, Deni should be charging more.
Sure anyone can make a design but if you want a high quality one like this, you have to pay the price.
I can understand if you don't have the money or even if you wouldn't spend that much on a design, but comments like this are extremely rude to artists and while you may not intend for it, it comes across as you saying that the design isn't worth the price and that's not true.
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this isnt rude. This is an opinion. get over it.
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A rude opinion that can hurt someone else and it better left unsaid.
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hurt? :l you gotta accept that people have different opinions on prices. That's the daily life. You serious?
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As I've already stated I understand that people have their own opinions and are entitled to them but when they are rude it's better to keep them to yourself.
"70 dollars is too much for something anyone can do" is a rude and hurtful comment. If you can do it yourself then go nuts and don't comment.
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it isn't rude, it is still a normal opinion that enough people share. ^^
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Most people who think so are just respectful enough to the artist to not comment.
It may not be rude to you but you have to consider how others might feel.
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this person did not even offend the picture, artist, style, design, whatsoever has to do with SilverDeni. They are literally talking about the fact that she sells a design for 70$. How could this possibly hurt someone? Right, not at all (if you're not instantly triggered). I make adopts myself, since a lot of years. If someone said this to me : the price is too high for selling a design, I'd just think to myself: okay, your opinion. And move on with life. But people have to be butthurt because someone shared their opinion on the FACT itself, not even SILVERDENI'S artwork.
Imagine you want to sell your computer. Someone says the price is too high in their opinion. Would you go on and cry because of that? no. And don't give me arguments like ''ohh but my computer isn't handmade, drawn, designed or something like that!'' because they did NOT share their opinion on the design at all but on basically selling any design for 70$.
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Apparently you have the wrong idea about how I feel. I'm not at home raving mad or crying and in no way am I "triggered". if you want to use that word then please look up the proper definition.
Once again if that's how you respond to it then that's totally how you alone feel. You never know how someone else will take it. I'm not saying that Deni's at home crying either but it can definitely bring a person down.
I'm not butt hurt and neither is Deni. I was simply telling the original people who commented to consider what they were saying and how it may affect others.
As far as the computer goes thats an item that has a set value. It already has a worth thats not changed much aside from how much you want or already paid for it. Drawings are different, their price is decided by you alone depending on how much you believe it to be worth. Its closely tied with your esteem as an artist and insulting the prices is similar to insulting the art. If it's too much, in your opinion, just don't buy it.
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you're really trying to defend SilverDeni and any artist here and
want to make me believe that you are not triggered yourself?
If you guys aren't offended then just stop with the drama
because of an opinion. And the people that are hurt because of those
kind of opinions should get themselves together and start
to understand that it is not about their design/ skills but selling
a design itself.
So you can not decide your own price for an item when you sell it
on the internet? That's new.
No. This still does not have anything to do with her art. How often
do I have to repeat myself? So because they don't want to buy a
design for so much money they are insulting the art? You know
how stupid that sounds. Is this so hard to understand.
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What INK-Studios asked is them people to be a little more considerate when they toss out these types of comments, regardless of how honest they want to appear. Someone who might be struggling to get commissions of any kind may not find such comments very appealing and it can potentially shatter one's self-esteem, especially for those who only just started.
So... yeah I don't see anything wrong with asking that. And I also don't see anything wrong with people voicing their opinions on the matter; given nobody is getting into a fist fight and throw insults back and forth at eachother.
I do not want to offend you by the way, the discussion had already ended and you tossed your comment out there at Ink and threw around the words 'triggered' and 'butthurt' (as seen on your journal) as if it was a personal attack directed at you. That's something I don't quite understand... if you want people to get 'themselves together' then you mayhaps shouldn't be running around that people who voice their own opinions are being 'triggered'?
I've seen these kinds of conversations enroll on here and other sites on the same topic, some people will just say whatever they like regardless.
Anyways this is going in circles, just let it be for now please.
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then dont reply if you want me to let it be
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There isn't any "drama". It's adults giving their opinion about a topic and discussing it therefore. I'm not mad and I assume the original people I was talking to were calm as well. People can have a discussion about a topic without being offended
I actually never said that? If you're buying a computer at a store there is a set price for it. With art it's different. Artist price their work differently based on how much they think it's worth.
As I said before, if you don't think it's worth that much then don't buy it. Not buying the product isn't an insult and I never said it was. Saying that it's not worth the amount it's posted for is.
If you're tired of fighting a point that I don't agree with then don't comment. We can agree to disagree.
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aaand you gotta accept that someone will react differently to said opinions. It's an eye for an eye really.
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I do accept it that other people reply differently ^^ but she is triggered because she thinks it is a 'hurtful' comment, although it was just a normal opinion. That's kinda retarded.
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What i dont get with this design selling is the fact you are buying something you cant even use propperly.
Because if you dont have skills to draw as he/she does it will never be the thing you paid for.
And if you are able to use the design to draw it as it is or better then why buy somethng you can do yourself ?
I get that some people will pay just for the artwork itself.
But saying its rude does not make it any less true.
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I think you have to speak for yourself in this one because it can absolutely be used properly. Artistic skill honestly doesn't matter. You can buy a character and never ever draw them and it still be used properly. Buying a design isn't just about the colors and lines. You can add "life"to the character. You give them a story, where they came from, who they are, what they like. There's more to a design than just drawing them especially when one "hits you" and you connect with it. I have a character I have never drawn since buying but I'm so in love with the design and the character I've made them to be that I would never give them up. There's more to a design than just drawing it.
On top of that not paying for the character to look exactly like Deni's style every time you draw it. You're paying for the pattern of the colors and the obvious personality this character shows. If that isn't enough then on top of that your paying for the art and the type of artwork this is considered to be (see previous chain with destinyspider)
You buy it because you can't do this specific design yourself. It is a one off; an original design. This is unique and while you can design your own characters, this one stands by itself.
Saying its "true" is an opinion because I totally disagree and while you are entitled to your own opinion, if it's rude or could hurt someone else, you should keep it to yourself.
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I understand how creating a character works. Ive done a lot of it myself.
Maybe thats why I dont see the point of buying someone elses.
I personally value honesty over being nice.
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heh, there's a difference between honesty and making yourself look daft because of lack of information and / or understanding.
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*shrug*
If you mean me then. I dont mind. No one will remember me by this time tomorrow.
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obviously, I replied to you silly.
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which is fine! If you don't want your own personal character that you created, that is totally fine but saying that because it's not your own or if you don't have drawing talent to properly render the character that the character isn't being "properly used" and is a waste therefore, is subjective and only your opinion.
Honesty is great when it comes to telling someone how great of a job they did or if you stole something. You make yourself look bad when you tell someone that their hard work isn't worth the price because of what people may or may not do after they've bought the character. Once again I'll say, if you have an "honest" opinion that may hurt others don't comment.
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Guess we're not going to agree on anything.
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Design can't really come without reference. You wouldn't pay for a literal description of a character, would you?
And well, sorry for sounding rude 
Be certain that sounding rude definatly wasn't my intention.
And yes. I get it with the reference pic now that you (and TwinkleKat106) mentioned it. It on itself also is an original piece instead of when an artist just draws one base, colours it differently five times, and then sells every chara for 60 dollars +
And yep. I sadly have no money xD And I wouldn't spend it on this if I did. Not because I don't like the design or something, but I like to have MY characters done personally. Otherwise I couldn't consider them mine.. That's just how I am I guess...
Shit. I hope I didn't sound mean again.. Seriously. I am typing this with my normal, sad depression face. I am not looking angry or sarcastic or something. I like the pic, I really do.... I better shut up now..... Hehe
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That's not what I meant. This is a one off "reference sheet" design and the artists own original artwork not a design put on a base. That's what I mean by reference.
Even then, if the artist sells it on a base, it's still their one off design and original work.
I get that too. For the longest time I was the same way haha
i think it's totally fine to think that too, just maybe don't comment on the artwork itself? Like I said, it can really bring a person down saying their prices are too much. Or if you do comment, make sure your read over it and it sounds ok. Put yourself on the other side of your comment. If if you had your own business and sold your own stuff that you were proud of, wouldn't it hurt you if someone said it wasn't worth that / too expensive?
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Eh. It probably wouldn't. One of the features of my self-esteem.
But well. Thank you for the tip. I'll try to be more careful next time
Thanks. (sorry for the short comment in comparision to your long and thoughtful one)
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Well it may hurt someone else so please consider other people's feelings.
Youre welcome and good luck in the future!
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I expected these types of comments. It's deviantArt afterall...
thanks a lot, you're so effin' awesome dude
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Umm... So I was rude?
Sorry - . - Really wasn't my intention to sound like a stupid asshole.
I just wanted to state my opinion
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No.
You stated your opinion. A lot of people don't and won't agree.
I can agree thats its a lot,but the artist puts the price on how much she/he deems worthy.
EDIT: I do think its worth the price!
Trust me, I bought a character for 150$. No art included and I love her.
So with that being said is this price is too much for YOU then other people make adopts
Its fine to find your price limit,but understand that good art costs more then one that is around 10 points. (If you understand that)
So no. You were not rude. Just next time word it different or even say "Super cute,but I wish I could afford"
Before someone comments,know I stated MY OPINION. My intentions were just.
I just don't like when people attack someone over something small.
Take care and dont feel bad <3
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Oh. Well thank you for your .. support .. c:
And believe me. I know that this here is definatly far beyong the 10 points mark, but still .. from what I believe how points work that here costs .. 5600 points (thanks weird calculator thing) .. And that is not few.
But... I don't really care by now anymore. I had one drama this weekend with a stupid asshole, and I don't want to also get another person, especially since it's one I like, to hate me one day after :/
So yeah. Thank you for telling peeps that it was not bad from me to give my opinion o something I am new to .. and I hope you're having fun with dat chara... and I hope you don't get as many messages as I did now, that tell you that you are wrong and that you should kill yourself (hold on... that second thing was from the other argument)
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Were you rude? Yes.
Did you upset me? No.
While I can somewhat understand that kind of mentality where you're not quite informed or used to this type of market, some people pay a fortune for art, it's just how the market works really. There's no real reason except for people simply like the artworks... and it's a prestige or some form of trophy to own artworks of your favourite artists. I've commissioned ppl before because I want to support that artist and I just love their art. I haven't bought a character since I have a bad time managing my own. However, there have been times I was tempted to do so, and there's nothing wrong with people selling them for an X amount of money based on their own value that is based off the audience / previously sold adoptable.
We all kinda (at least some) start with that thought of 'oh man, I wouldnt give a dime for that', but that changes over time as you start to understand and accept these things.
Some people sell plushies of different big franchises for £1k+, I wont go and tell them they're not worth that much for a plush, you know? It's not very nice. That artist has put a lot of dedication and effort in that craftwork, and it's not okay to undermine someone's work like that.
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.. I still don't get how stating my opinion was rude. I said that the design was very nice..
Eh, well.. I know. I don't really have any idea on how those adopts work. And I have no idea on how those prices should be and how they work.
I personally love your gallery and I understand how it can be nice for you to make money off of your work, allthewile doing whatever you want (if you made money off of commisions for example you'd be always told what to do)
But I just don't really get it.
I know an really amazing artist who puts hours upon hours of work into his pictures and makes sure that every single detail is fitting, every line of shading done individually in his style, combining into nice, and very packed artworks (they can be a little confusing sometimes, but that's parts the fun of it).
And he takes commisions for 20 dollars.
I won't say that I like your art less, but this is a flat coloured "frontside ref" of a cute kitten that I could then draw for myself after I bought it. It requires your amazing skills though to have her (or him, I'm actually not that certain 0.o) look as good as on this picture. So I can't really do anything with the ref as I simply don't have your amount of skill.
And by that, I think that .. I don't know. I just don't really understand how this picture can cost more than three times a commision of another amazing artist.
I really don't want to sound rude, but it is just the way I see it..
And wow.. more then a thousand pounds for a plush o-o
... I guess the size would be important to know before judging, but well. I think if it is just a typical Pikachu then that would be too much.
If it is a very complicated design and a big plush, then yeah, I get that there must be a lot of time put into it, but if you have a Pikachu, people who are good at doing plushes probably won't have to work much more than .. probably one or two days for it.
And doing plushes is on an entirely different level than drawing by the way. It's 3d crafts, made out of certain fabrics and fixed with sewing.. or something .. fuck my english.. So to get arm like the one in this pic done will require a looot of hard work, while drawing it is a work of seconds.
So really.. you can't compare that.
So. I get what you are saying, but I don't think I undermine the work someone put into something by not knowing how pricing works.
I'll just shut up now. I can't concentrate with headache.
Sorry for being a fucking piece of garbage. I really love your art, I'm just confused
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Well price wise they always start low. Based on popularity and demand of certain types of commissions, the artist adjusts their pricing accordingly. Some start with YCHs, and if they go up to a certain amount of money more than once, they know their own value. By the way the furry fandom in this case is relatively cheap compared to the pricing in the art industry, just sayin'.
And yes, over a grand because it was really well executed, the fandom it belongs to is quite big and the size of the actual plush was big too, and it was probably by an artist who probably also did a one off sale (like once in a while, it's just one single unique item therefor rare). It's again, demand.
The plush was merely an example of 'I wouldn't pay this much for this because *insert reason*', not a comparison.
Obviously plush making isn't the same as drawing there's tonnes of other things involved, but there are people who find their strength in that type of craftwork than drawing.
Honestly these insane pricings and so is what makes these types of fandoms so awesome, there's tonnes and tonnes of people who support creativity. Without them this market wouldn't exist. It's crazy at first sight but in due time you will understand.
And in regards to the rudeness: Eh. It didn't affect me as I expected something like that cos I've seen it around before. However, there are people who don't appreciate such comments and would probably react differently. I've seen frowny faces on 'I'd buy this I wish I had the money' types of comments too.
It's just things you'll have to consider in the future, as in someone might not react well to your opinion, so be prepared.
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Yea that's totally true haha
thats one reason I went to Twitter haha
youre very welcome and thank you!!
HECK you're awesome too!! ❤️💙💛
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Not really. You are paying for the Art and the technically a reference sheet for the character as well.
70 is fairly cheap for a 2 piece reference like this.
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Owning a design now isn't really worth that much money, as everyone can just think up something within some days and then use it.
But yeah. You are right.
Sorry
(But what do you mean with "You pay for the art AND a reference sheet". It is just this one pic. That it is technically two things doesn't mean it should cost twice the prize. Nearly ever pic is kind of a ref of the characters it features)
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Oh, what I mean is kinda like... She took her time to draw this, so you get her Art and the reference with 2 poses. I get what you're saying though!
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I am confused xD
I get you though, I believe
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It's a reference sheet styled drawing. You get two poses and a color palette vs just a colored messy sketch. It is definitely worth twice the price.
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Okay. But normal drawings usually have shading.
that's something references don't as it would fuck around with the normal colours and it wouldn't be clear which exactly are to use.
Also references mostly show the front and backside instead of the front twice..
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Not true. It depends on what kind of drawing you're buying. Not all of them come with shading. Either way, this is still a reference sheet styled drawing that has two different poses and being charged double because of that would be fair.
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