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Skirtzzz In reply to ??? [2020-01-04 04:52:28 +0000 UTC]

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nadjasybill In reply to Skirtzzz [2020-01-04 18:24:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! Yeah, I've been ignoring my gut a lot lately. Maybe it can occasionally be right

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Angeltsuki-Dono [2019-12-14 03:41:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm so proud and happy for you, every time you do more and more and I can only be more proud.


I agree with the feeling of imposter syndrome and it has actually stopped me from time to time from taking that big step. Why me? There's so many people so much better than me. Why do so many people brag about my art to other people? It's crap. It isn't? But it is. To me. What I'm proud of almost no one likes. But it's only that fear that's holding me back. What if that one piece that got them to notice me was a fluke? What if I can't do that anymore? What if they want to watch me and see me using 5-10 references? What if.

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tsuaii [2019-12-13 12:14:44 +0000 UTC]

Woo go get em, Skirtzzz !

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Skirtzzz In reply to tsuaii [2019-12-14 00:34:04 +0000 UTC]

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jezreeljay [2019-12-12 18:35:08 +0000 UTC]

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Skirtzzz In reply to jezreeljay [2019-12-12 22:42:34 +0000 UTC]

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GoldenTrees [2019-12-11 02:34:10 +0000 UTC]

Damn @ all these people being mean in the comments because they're jealous of her lol

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to GoldenTrees [2019-12-13 08:42:52 +0000 UTC]

i'm not jealous of her. it would be interesting to know what is the criteria when da team chooses to interview people.

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GoldenTrees In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2019-12-13 14:30:56 +0000 UTC]

She’s been on the website for many many years and has been Deviant of the Day or whatever it is as well. She’s had a strong connection with them and was involved with the team at a recent irl meetup so I’m going to assume that’s part of it as well. She’s very talented, so it’s not hard to imagine.

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GameTrek In reply to GoldenTrees [2019-12-12 20:28:29 +0000 UTC]

Nobody is jealous over her activities. People want to see paper-trails. Information. Not inspiration ( sponsor ), not misinformation. If she is truly productive and not dependent with her work I am sure somebody is happy for her but looking successful from actually being a success are two different things all together. You could sugar-coat it, you could dress it up, you could even fake it all together. However people are flesh and bone. You can not fake that.

The old way of saying "Everything is good, everything is okay" is propaganda. People want to see regular and real people. Working people and not the brief info-mercial we see at the 10 o' clock news where you barely even get any information out of the "Variety" or the "Wall Street Journal" we have been chugging since the 1990's and if not forever. We are not our parents. We are not the same. Why should the world be given the same mental binding horse blinders? Just consume, slave, consume, moving from box to box making believe it is your own choice when you ( we ) have clearly been cohered, seasoned, and lied to into it. When they know the truth.

Like AW I will admit to having suicide tendencies in the past. I mean literally like "swinnie todd" type episodes. Why should any of that be a crutch for my career? College ( learning ) is suppose to be a painful experience. That  is why you go to college to learn. It is no different from learning how to swim, drive, wielding carbine, or even
co-exsisting with people. The problem is that sometimes people come from parents who do not know how to live the way their children proceed to live at all.

The fact remains that she is not actually giving anything educational or informational. I have seen her recordings and literally have seen nothing but the same marketing over and over. "Back at home with the Turkeys" Turkeys ranch?  "There is nothing but nursing, Horses, and the only arts relates to sports" Nursing at what pay-rate? Driving via CDL working with Horses? "In LA she was able to meet people of her kind" Like people who are working endlessly trying to have a career and retire early? Or people who are lost at what direction they should be heading so they try almost anything for quick cash. Roomating with each other or ignoring the fact that they do or do not have or share each other resources like fishes eating each other???

Reality without college in a city environment, without farm, military, adult-entertainment, construction, or retail your only option is to take city jobs and work your way up taking exams ( knowing your mathematics, judgmental, co-existence ) and get on the good side of your administrators, managers, and not even want the job. I mean the lowest of the low to the highest of the high. Then you take your money and strategically make investments. You might damage your mentality and skills might wain but unless a nice person comes into your life nothing is going to change unless you make that push. Remember "Pee-wee-Herman" the movie and scene with the snakes and the petshop on fire???? That is how real life is like. Your surrounded by these people ( snakes ) who doubt you and even if you end up with income in your hands your still stuck in the pet shop with the snakes.

Then she goes on to call the PA, PR, Marketing peeps associated with DA ( who obviously has other projects asides DA ) nice people. Hollywood types are suppose to be nice. They are put on this laid back hipster ( we are cool and in ) mentality. They are nothing but middle-management doing a task the owners of DA ( Wix ) is unable to do themselves because like I said have moved on to other projects....like raising families most likely or whatever that might be.

Again I have wanted to commit acts of violence to myself in the past many times but I get up and keep moving forward towards my goals. I am not going to make it the story of my life. In reality art = business and art is an business and if your unable to see the impulsive consumer in comparison to the snake oil devil in the suit seller then I am sorry for that perspective. %90 of art is marketing even if their is passion in the ink, story-boarding.

Art people should not think the way I think but I am forced to because I have actually done work and have been forced and attacked by my fellow art people in real life. I find good people to work with and even some of those "good people" do not want me around and would rather push me away and not even want me to make any art at all. I know this from experience with working with both  private, public, and volunteer sectors. I literally have to put myself between people ( including the middle-peeps ) and be that middle-man just to earn or do anything.

My biggest gripes ( on the business spectrum ) is who is going to take over the property she owns? Is she going to eventually get rights to the property an end up in some big city living inside of a whole in a wall? Mathematical that is wrong as many people tend to want to go back to something similar or normal or bigger then what they had before. The family tree is suppose to rise and not fall. I am not saying the idea of cities is wrong but the reality most people who live in big cities come from families with normal houses and normal homes, with normal yards, and possibly yards with no gates and possible can only see the next house in the distance. That is normal. The hole in the wall is abnormal. It is a temporary construct. I like to call it my web I sew when I am away from the colony. Apartments with lack of ownership is not a forever thing.

If she was my daughter the last thing I would want for her is to be in some inappropriate usage of her body even if that is her decision.
Because that is the reality with art business. They are gambling on the fact your unable to get work and still strive to be and eventually
will do just about anything if not settling with some guy ( who is independent and has access to property ) and controlling and consider
that the norm.

What if she was a dude and start talking about suicide, and other kinds of messed up stuff like that? Would anybody really care at all?
Would they just laugh at him and tell him to lie down and die or go talk to god? I do not see any DA team collecting him and others like him and actually whisking them away for a post/pre pagent party with other artist or even showing or telling anything or how to promote anything at all.

What matters is the parent to the child to the educator to the employer to the bank and revolve again. That is what matters the most. Not how she has suicidal ideas and how her art is great. The real working world a person drops down and nobody cares you have to pick yourself up again because their is nothing else to do. Is there?

The only truth I ( we ) will hear anybody from anything is on their death bed. Possibly never because of the physical state a persons mentality could be in while they are waiting for the end. Being ignored and not in the company of loved ones who care. Only callous liars only fearing their jobs.

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GoldenTrees In reply to GameTrek [2019-12-12 20:56:46 +0000 UTC]

Not reading this, sorry lol this is embarrassing and just rude to post on something like this.  And yet, you do this on every forum post I see you on.  If you don't like her or the podcast, first of all don't watch it, it's 30 minutes long; so that's your fault.  The point of this podcast and sharing her story is to inspire others and all I see are people tearing her apart and trying to better themselves and that's not what DeviantArt is about.  It's shameful.  It's jealousy.

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GameTrek In reply to GoldenTrees [2019-12-12 23:30:25 +0000 UTC]

"If you don't like her or the podcast, first of all don't watch it, it's 30 minutes long"

I watched a whole bunch of them. They just keep saying the same thing over and over again. I will take a look again on your behalf as you suggested. Otherwise you could read any previous comments. I am trying to look beyond the marketing to see if any relevant information is actually being shared.

This is not fundraiser event via venue dressed up in penguin costumes footing-around with "small talk". I want to know the five Whys and Hows. I do not feel anything nor should anybody.

I am not embarrassed about any two cents I attribute. If my words could make people see in other dimensions or create a dialog my task is done.

"all I see are people tearing her apart and trying to better themselves"

I have heard all the make-shift excuses before. Nobody is doing any of that

If AW could attribute new information that is tactical to her peers that would be change of pace. I have met many majors ( art related or not ) who all have the same story more or less. The story might change over time from person to person but it is the same tale. What makes there words different from the last? I know so many of them. It is not like tv/radio where we just move on the next person and the next just because it is recent or should even be considered for listening and or viewing.

Wouldn't it be nice to go back to a simpler time where you could voice your ideas, facts, and opinions, Thanks to the internet we have that opportunity.

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GoldenTrees In reply to GameTrek [2019-12-12 23:44:18 +0000 UTC]

Maybe if you read more than your own comments you would see that in fact, yes, there are people on here that are belittling her.  No one cares if you feel anything or not from this podcast, because if it doesn't help you then move on.  No one needs your negativity, and certainly not the artist involved or the staff spending their time making it.  Have a nice day.

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Omnivoyance In reply to GoldenTrees [2019-12-15 07:21:40 +0000 UTC]

At first I just thought GameTrek was annoyed by the poorly disguised ADs thrust in their notifications and just very poor at communication. 

As I read more of them now days later (I haven't run into them before on similar DA announcements like you have) I, a person who used to pride themselves on being able to find the patterns in most types of communication, find myself a bit lost. 

It has an almost random element to its flow like someone watched the podcast, entered a daydream like state, and then foggily typed whatever popped into their stream of consciousness. (maybe drugs? lack of drugs?)

If someone told me this was an A.I. designed to fake conversation in forums being let loose on us by its programmer for in the field testing I might be half-willing to believe them. 

Kinda fascinating really. 

P.S. Don't actually care about the podcast one way or the other. She's helping them advertise the site and that is her and their right to link me to it I guess. (joy... ) But sometimes the comments are fun! 

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GoldenTrees In reply to Omnivoyance [2019-12-15 12:44:27 +0000 UTC]

Yeah it’s definitely... intriguing. I’ve never encountered someone who speaks like that and has that strange of an attitude towards literally everyone. If you look at his activity history you can see the comments he makes on other things as well and some of them are so uncalled for and passive aggressive over very, very strange and personal reasons. They’re a very avid forum goer so that’s how I’ve seen them, and very confrontational even when not being directly spoken to.

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Champis01 [2019-12-10 10:41:26 +0000 UTC]

Is there anyone in this thread that is talented, well adjusted, relatively normal, and not suffering from multiple forms of anxiety and or feelings of angst and or depression, ....or similar?

Jus wundering 

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Omnivoyance In reply to Champis01 [2019-12-15 07:26:11 +0000 UTC]

Nope. Nope. Error: Please define "Normal". Eh, here and there like anybody I suppose but since I'm immune to suicide I am forced to live on and the weather in my brain always changes to something sunnier eventually. (for a while) 

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GameTrek In reply to Champis01 [2019-12-13 01:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Why can't people be honest???


"Negativity" I want people to get along but art is business not a quincentenary barmizva after-party. In fact after-parties are further used to gain more press including photos an interviews which promotes a product or brand. Even if that product or brand is a person otherwise.

I see people ( peers or not ) fighting and struggling an upstream battle with there fellow peers throwing their feces at them like if they are late abortions. It needs to end. You ( or me ) painting an incomplete picture only meant to pull people into a world with no real direction of outcome like ownership of property

It is like that film where they promise all these girls fame and fortune only for them to end up in prostitution with no mental construct of removing themselves from that self-annihilating construct. Instead we take that same person ( ) and move them into an even worst situation or the actual status that we are fearing. It is like that robot saying "Danger Danger Will Roberson" but the robot is the actual threat itself.

I see this podcast. It is not meant for people like me who have battled and continue to battle in the educational and professional ( working income world ) world. Opinion-wise is meant to target younger naive uneducated audience/consumers with no real sense of direction ( because like her "Loser" "Weboo" self ) because the people around them have nobody to guide them down any path at all or show them anyway.

Honest to gosh she is not even a "Weboo" or "Octoku". She is more like a regular girl ( like my sister ) who likes Anime and have recently got into more detailed work. Then she goes on to the idea of saying "I am so going back into Disney" but in reality even if she is inspired she is only relying on others works to promote herself. Nothing wrong with that at all.

To sum up what she said ( I am hearing ) "suicide" I am hearing " I am thirty" or even to her trip to CC event. I am hearing an echo in the art-verse may it be theater, photography, design, fashion, architect. What I am seeing is that successful artists are not giving any real advice unless they favor you ( which is an illegal move in the workplace ). It is like watching somebody kill themselves and pretend they have no head on their shoulders.

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There is not explanation or logical conquest. Just hey your 13-16 years old on DA and you should totally "sabotage yourself" by making the same journey with no logical outcome at all.

Take Gen Padova ( Jennifer Paduano ). She is an bachelor holder in fine-arts. Did she use it on record of pension and taxes??? She does make Jewelery for the HSN but is that how she pays the bills? Does she own property from her own effort??? She is also a cancer survivor. I just told a story about Gen Padova without actually filling the gaps about who she is and why I should care about her. What does this person have anything to do with me at all or DA??? and why I should mention her along with other art people as well?????

I am also not hearing anything like "if each of us worked on a panel, and pooled our resources into one project and do the voice acting ourselves. Maybe we could make something that will sell. The work would go real fast with all of us working together as a unit??? Nope not hearing about any of those things. Just hearing "I for I and you for you" not "All for one and one for all mentality"

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SWSirens In reply to Champis01 [2019-12-10 11:18:48 +0000 UTC]

Me! ME!

Wait fuck, I'm not talented.

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LadySeshiiria [2019-12-10 05:58:55 +0000 UTC]

Hai Idaho! Utah here feeling/experiencing the same thing... :/ Same High school experiences with counselors too...  

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tokyo-lover2 [2019-12-10 05:22:35 +0000 UTC]

i took a look at her gallery and ... sorry but i'm not impressed.
   I guess the rising success of anime style helped her to build her huge audience.

NOW! how about a podcast dedicated to MY art?  i also write fan fictions you know.

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nadjasybill In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2020-01-03 20:13:29 +0000 UTC]

This comment sucks. She's extremely talented and deserves to be as successful as she is now. Not cool to put down artists for an ego boost.

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to nadjasybill [2020-01-04 00:32:27 +0000 UTC]

I completely forgot about this. Extremely talented?  I guess we must judge someone as very talented from different points of view, no wonder why you found my comment so unpleasant. However I don't want to start arguing with you about this. So stop bothering me and good day.

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nadjasybill In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2020-01-04 00:45:11 +0000 UTC]

If you don’t want to be “bothered” then don’t leave toxic comments in public spaces.

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to nadjasybill [2020-01-04 07:39:35 +0000 UTC]

i'm free to write whatever i want. but why are YOU bothered so much? the comment wasn't even meant for you so...

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nadjasybill In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2020-01-09 10:27:15 +0000 UTC]

Because it was unnecessarily unkind and this keyboard warrior was triggered

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to nadjasybill [2020-01-26 18:03:12 +0000 UTC]

no hard feelings

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GoldenTrees In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2019-12-11 02:32:38 +0000 UTC]

lol

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tokyo-lover2 In reply to GoldenTrees [2019-12-11 03:12:54 +0000 UTC]

Why lol? I bet you would like a podcast dedicated to your stuff

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Omnivoyance In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2019-12-15 07:28:50 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but you said a podcast dedicated to yours not mine. If it's a podcast dedicated to MINE that would be awesome. Just give me a warning so I can make some stuff for them to dedicated it to. (I'm thinking found art. I saw some really narly frozen spaghetti, sauce, and rice mixture the other day in the dumpster!) 

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GameTrek In reply to tokyo-lover2 [2019-12-13 02:55:09 +0000 UTC]

It is more like they did this on purpose to promote her artwork because she has been a long-time member actually investing funds into DA. Also in the interview it was mentioned the interviewer and AW are both from the same area of the world. Both getting the same jokes. So it looks more like favoritism rather then dedication.

Also most of her work is not Anime stand alone it is more like fan-artwork with a slab of originality. Most of the works are actually like side-pieces or bust drawings in conjunction with nature. Also she is a convention buff herself. She literally has been going door to door to conventions

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robotchuuk [2019-12-10 02:15:54 +0000 UTC]

Great podcast!
good vibes .da.
 

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ggMattB In reply to robotchuuk [2019-12-11 00:59:42 +0000 UTC]

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Tenchi8 [2019-12-09 23:48:26 +0000 UTC]

I enjoyed the entire podcast. The interview with Skirtzzz, was very inspirational and encouraging for me. 
Learning much about her background in life, and the challenges she faced as an artist and as an individual, 
had been the kind of ordeal I have been facing constantly. It's good to know that I am not the only one, 
who has had my share of oppositions in life. Like her, I felt stubborn enough to want to prove nay sayers, wrong. 

I have been surrounded by "non-artist" folks in real life for almost my entire life, and had little to no support in the area of 
art, except from my mom and sister, who are also artist themselves. ^^ When it came to art, it was always a battle for me. 
The amount of oppositions I had faced growing up and to this very day, has made me become a lateral thinker. I was practically forced to walk on eggshells, and had learned to do a lot of tactcial improvising over the years. To name a few, like in recent events, 
I had to pretend to go to work on my days off, just to find a quiet spot at my job on a luxury yacht, to work on my art works. Or go to a book store or library, to work on my artworks. For years I had no convenient way to concentrate, and had to find innovative ways to make time for drawing where I almost had no time for it at all. It's a long story, but what she had shared of her life, I can certainly relate to her a lot. 

Thanks so much for this podcast, it was really great to know that I wasn't the only artist here on DA who has faced this, as I call it, 
"forces of opposition" It's real, and I have been battling it constantly. When ever I manage to post anything here on DA, it is what I considered a miracle and a victory over oppositions in general, and I often express inwardly, "Ha take that forces of oppositions! I managed to draw something anyway!" And man it felt so good. being an artist is a constant battle for me, and it's great to know that there is another fellow fighter at heart here on Deviant Art. I believe what was shared here was very relevant. I've read some of the comments below, and how they expressed that it was "awkward, or irrelevent" and how they weren't interested in the personal lives of the staff. I can only speak for myself, that this was very informative and encouraging to me personally, because I struggle a lot as an artist, and have experienced numerous major setbacks in my life. I'm talking about losing years of art works, twice and having to convince myself to reproduce all of those lost drawings from memory, only more improved. The majority of traditional works I have in my gallery are redrawned versions of the works I have lost. Once from when my family got evicted, and lost our home, and the second time, when we had a fire at the storage facility. Now, I have managed to write 11 chapters of lost pages of my novel that I had worked on, and at least 2 chapters of comic of the same story, that I have been working on. 
Hearing her personal story, confirms that I have been on the right track in never giving up hope, and in sticking with my passion through and through. Like she said, it's easier said than done. That is so true, and it's all worth fighting for.  

I sat through this podcast nodding my head in agreement the entire time, with a knowing smile. I can totally relate to her ordeal, and I'm one of those struggling artist that had to work twice as hard, where most others, practically seem to have this "perfect" life. I didn't think I could measure up to most of the amazing artist I have met here online, but regardless of my level of skills, the love of art is what matters most to me, and making the most of every moment, even here online, where I can reach out and connect with fellow artist. Deviant Art had been like a second home and a haven to me. Thanks for this podcast, again, it had been very encouraging to me.  

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DemonikWolfe [2019-12-09 17:49:30 +0000 UTC]

Great podcast! Nice to hear from a DA artist about their struggles and success. Congrats Alli!

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Crysenley [2019-12-09 15:18:22 +0000 UTC]

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Masterduck45 [2019-12-09 12:24:52 +0000 UTC]

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Omnivoyance [2019-12-09 08:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Very clever self promotion DA. Hard to say anything negative about DA on this without sounding like you are attacking this random adorable young lady of randomness. 

I actually thought "impostor syndrome" had something to do with all the art theft here and elsewhere... Apparently it actually means, "Feeling unworthy."

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seblarroude [2019-12-09 03:15:01 +0000 UTC]

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SuperSprite56 [2019-12-09 00:21:39 +0000 UTC]

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Omnivoyance In reply to SuperSprite56 [2019-12-09 08:10:48 +0000 UTC]

Everybody got it I would assume. At least it wasn't straight up propaganda (still is but an effort has been made to woo me and I appreciate that. Kinda... ) for the site or advertising like a lot of the things that show up in that section of notifications. 

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SuperSprite56 In reply to Omnivoyance [2019-12-14 17:19:54 +0000 UTC]

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Omnivoyance In reply to SuperSprite56 [2019-12-15 07:31:20 +0000 UTC]

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SpellMeTheMoon [2019-12-09 00:03:26 +0000 UTC]

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Wes-of-StarArmy [2019-12-08 21:13:39 +0000 UTC]

I've been a fan for years and it's cool to see DA recognizing her.

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Toastflake [2019-12-08 20:09:52 +0000 UTC]

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goninja89 In reply to Toastflake [2019-12-08 20:41:17 +0000 UTC]

They've never heard of you ether.

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Toastflake In reply to goninja89 [2019-12-09 08:09:36 +0000 UTC]

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SCITZ In reply to goninja89 [2019-12-09 05:30:00 +0000 UTC]

XD

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