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Published: 2019-09-01 21:41:45 +0000 UTC; Views: 548; Favourites: 46; Downloads: 0
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Description Collings Foundation North American B-25 Mitchell "Tondelayo". G.O. Carlson West Chester Airport, Coatesville Pennsylvania. Aug. 26 2019
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Alexaimephotography [2019-09-05 08:53:07 +0000 UTC]

Hi
Superb shot
Excellent day for you and soon
❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏

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TribblePom55 In reply to Alexaimephotography [2019-09-05 16:04:40 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!  

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uncle-bilbo [2019-09-01 23:40:08 +0000 UTC]

30 Seconds Over Tokyo, one of the most honest and realistic of the 'propaganda ' films of the war to the point it almost doesn't deserve to be called propaganda. Almost everything you need to know about the B-25 inside and out, including the electrical switch-over and hand-pumping the fuel line to start the engine. The B-25s in the film had the electric-driven turret on top just behind the cockpit, and you get to have a good look at how that worked.


What gets my vote for the most amazing technical feature was that the flight deck of the Hornet was recreated to scale on an indoor set, complete with real B-25s running their engines and rolling out to take off indoors.

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TribblePom55 In reply to uncle-bilbo [2019-09-02 01:57:03 +0000 UTC]

I love that film! (I'm a TCM junkie and a Spencer Tracy fan anyway!). The B-17 is considered the darling of WW2 warbirds, but the Mitchell was always my favorite bomber bird. It was an very versatile aircraft not only for it's short take-off and landing capability as a bomber, but that it was a great ground attack platform. Later in the war there were a lot of them set up with multiple .50cal M2 Browning machine guns in a solid, hatched nose. These could bring 10 forward firing .50cal machine guns and 8 five inch rockets on wing pylons to bear. They played havoc with Nazi rail traffic and armored troop columns. They also had a model XB-25G which had a 75mm cannon mounted in the nose for anti shipping operations...the largest cannon ever mounted on a bomber!....there was only one prototype produced. 

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paws4thot In reply to TribblePom55 [2019-09-02 11:00:50 +0000 UTC]

12 x 50 cals surely? 8 in the solid nose and the 4 cockpit side weapons.

And let's not forget the short nose 75mm gun version...

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TribblePom55 In reply to paws4thot [2019-09-02 18:14:59 +0000 UTC]

I mentioned the anti shipping XB-25G version above with the 75mm cannon. There was only one prototype "X" version and it was never used in combat...just for testing. The problem was the loading crew could only get off a couple of shots on each strafing run, and even fewer hits on a stationary target. It was a cool idea, and I still wouldn't have wanted to be the test target!  

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paws4thot In reply to TribblePom55 [2019-09-03 09:02:09 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I wasn't aware that there was only ever the one XB-25G; Airfix kitted it, along with a gun nose and a clear nose as options in the same box.

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TribblePom55 In reply to paws4thot [2019-09-03 15:54:54 +0000 UTC]

If you want to see one restored to this configuration, The Cavanaugh Flight Museum in Addison Texas has a B-25H with the 75mm set up called the "Barbie III"....and it's listed as airworthy!

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…

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uncle-bilbo In reply to TribblePom55 [2019-09-02 04:48:24 +0000 UTC]

I recall somewhere that they used real experienced flight deck crews on the Hornet mock-up because they were running the engines of real aircraft there on the soundstage. This was no place for bit-part actors.


One point I like to make about those old bombers, having flown in a B17. They were not as solid and closed up as they would appear to be, and as they seem to be in the movies. The shell of the aircraft was only a thin sheet of metal over an exposed frame, usually with no interior insulation, and the floor is usually just a plywood walkway barely wide enough to stand on. The turrets and gun ports are not that closed up. A cold wind is always moving down the length of the aircraft in flight and you hear the sounds of all the electric and hydraulic motors and the snapping of the relays in the electrical system. The feel is much more like flying out in the open than you have in more modern aircraft. In the waist of the plane you can look up and see the cables moving that run back to the control surfaces in the tail, with no redundancy if those were cut or snagged. The B29 with its insulated, pressurized cabin must have seemed like something out of the future.

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TribblePom55 In reply to uncle-bilbo [2019-09-02 18:05:11 +0000 UTC]

The run up scenes were on a sound stage, but the carrier take off footage of the aircraft leaving the deck was authentic WW2 film clips from the Doolittle raid...they mention it in the credits. Don't forget, the Navy made it a habit of filming all carrier take offs and landings which they still do to this day. Here is a link to USN archival footage of the raid and the carrier take offs..... archive.org/details/Doolittle_…

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davincipoppalag [2019-09-01 21:45:06 +0000 UTC]

great shot of her

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TribblePom55 In reply to davincipoppalag [2019-09-01 21:50:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!...I was always kind of a sucker for old trains and old planes in period black & white... 

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davincipoppalag In reply to TribblePom55 [2019-09-01 21:52:46 +0000 UTC]

yea I did a couple of mine and converted to sepia  

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TribblePom55 In reply to davincipoppalag [2019-09-02 01:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Sepia is kinda' tricky. I've found a lot of the 'sepia' settings have a harsh pink or reddish cast to them. On my digital photos I use a program called 'Photoscape' (which you can download for free). I first make greyscale copy, and then do the sepia conversion on the copy...it works out really well. My older 35mm film scans are a whole other story! 

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davincipoppalag In reply to TribblePom55 [2019-09-02 05:59:14 +0000 UTC]

that's true.. mine sure does..Ill check that out...thanks

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TribblePom55 In reply to davincipoppalag [2019-09-02 18:28:53 +0000 UTC]

 

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